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Why was Lot’s Wife’s punishment for disobedience so harsh?!

NoahHadNoArk:
Why was Lot’s Wife’s punishment for disobedience so harsh?!

How's that harsh?

She disobeyed God and became a disbeliever expressing love for the homos!

Death to anything homos!

Season 1
Yeah, who are they?

As regards the 24 Elders with Yahweh:
1. Of what importance is God having son and 24 elders among his council? Why do God need them?
2. Who are the 24 elders?
3. When were they created?
4. What are their names?
5. Of what essence are they?
6. Can they die?
7. Can they eat and reproduce?
8. Are they like God?
9. Do they sing, clap and dance in worship like Christians do today?
10. Do they pay tithe?
11. Are they Christians since they worship God too?
12. Do they believe Jesus died as God too?
13. Did Jesus ever mentioned them on Earth?
14. Were they mentioned by any other person in the Old testament?
15. How do they look like? Like angels, Cherubs, humans, etc?
16. Where does Jesus and the Spirit sit in the council? On the right or left of the father?

Dtruthspeaker

AntiChristian:


How's that harsh?

She disobeyed God and became a disbeliever expressing love for the homos!

Death to anything homos!

the kwestion says as a christian and you are a islamic fundamentalist

AntiChristian:
Season 1
As regards the 24 Elders with Yahweh:
1. Of what importance is God having son and 24 elders among his council? Why do God need them?
2. Who are the 24 elders?
3. When were they created?
4. What are their names?
5. Of what essence are they?
6. Can they die?
7. Can they eat and reproduce?
8. Are they like God?
9. Do they sing, clap and dance in worship like Christians do today?
10. Do they pay tithe?
11. Are they Christians since they worship God too?
12. Do they believe Jesus died as God too?
13. Did Jesus ever mentioned them on Earth?
14. Were they mentioned by any other person in the Old testament?
15. When exactly where they created?

the kwestion says as a christian and you are a islamic fundamentalist

Redoil:


the kwestion says as a christian and you are a islamic fundamentalist

Okay!
A deflection that the question can't be answered!

I sabi!

Is there any sane lessons from Genesis 38, one of the ancestors of Jesus Christ?

Genesis 38 tells the story of Judah and his family. The chapter begins with Judah leaving his brothers and marrying a Canaanite woman named Shua. They have three sons: Er, Onan, and Shelah. Judah arranges for his oldest son, Er, to marry a woman named Tamar. However, Er is wicked in the eyes of the Lord, so the Lord takes his life.

According to custom, Judah then tells his second son, Onan, to fulfill the duty of a brother-in-law to Tamar and provide offspring for his deceased brother. However, Onan refuses, and the Lord takes his life as well.

Judah then tells Tamar to live as a widow in her father's house until his youngest son, Shelah, is older. However, Judah does not follow through with his promise, and Tamar sees that Shelah has grown up but has not been given to her as a husband. So, she takes matters into her own hands and disguises herself as a prostitute, seducing Judah and becoming pregnant by him.

When Judah finds out that Tamar is pregnant, he orders her to be burned, thinking she has been unfaithful. However, Tamar presents evidence that Judah is the father of her child. Judah acknowledges his wrongdoing and declares that Tamar is more righteous than he is.

The chapter concludes with Tamar giving birth to twin sons, Perez and Zerah, the former an ancestor of Jesus Christ!

Why God no kill the Father Judah?

It behooves us to look at how women have been treated in the past as narrated in the Bible!

Old testament

GE 3:16, CO 11:3-9, EP 5:22-24, CN 3:18, TS 2:5, 1PE 3:1-6 The husband is to rule over his wife. Wives are to be subject to their husbands even when the husband is disobedient to God. Man is the image and glory of God, while woman is the glory of man. Man was not created for woman but woman for man.
(Note: Some New testament verses are included herein).

GE 3:16 Women should suffer pain during childbirth. (Note: This verse was used by the Church to oppose the use of anesthesia during childbirth.)

EX 21:7-11
A father can sell a daughter into slavery to pay a debt. A daughter sold into slavery is not released at the end of six years as is an ordinary male slave.

EX 22:16-17
An unbetrothed virgin is required to marry her seducer.

LE 12:2
A woman who has a child, especially a female child, is unclean and purification rites are required.

LE 15:19
A woman who is menstruating is unclean. Anyone who touches her is unclean.

LE 15:20
Anything which a woman who is menstruating sits on or lies on is unclean.

LE 15:21
Anyone who touches the bed of a woman who is menstruating must wash his clothes and bathe, and is unclean until evening.

LE 15:22
Anyone who touches anything which was sat upon by a woman who is menstruating must wash his clothes and bathe, and is unclean until evening.

LE 15:28
After her flow stops, a woman who was menstruating must count off seven days before she is considered clean again. On the eighth day, she must present two birds to the priest for an atonement for having had a menstrual discharge.

LE 27:3-7
Males are more valuable than females.

NU 5:12-31
A woman suspected or accused of adultery is to be tested by making her drink the “water of bitterness,” or holy water mixed with dust from the floor. (Note: There is no such test for men.) In Anambra, na dead body wash water...

NU 31:18, 35, JG 21:12
Young virgins are considered a spoil of war and can be taken for the use of the victors.

DT 22:13-21
A bride in whom “the tokens of virginity” are not found is to be put to death. (Note: The bridegroom who falsely accuses his bride gets off with a fine.)

DT 22:23-24
A betrothed virgin who is seduced in the city is to be put to death unless she cries for help.

DT 22:28-29
A virgin who is raped must marry her rapist (if they are “found”).

DT 24:1-4
A man may divorce his wife simply because she displeases him.

DT 25:5-10
A man has an obligation to produce a child for his widowed sister-in-law.

DT 25:11
A wife who grabs her husband’s opponent by his “private parts” must have her hand cut off and is to be shown no pity.

JG 21:21
The Benjamites are commanded to take wives by hiding in the vineyards and then seizing the “daughters of Shiloh” as they come out to dance.

PR 31:10-31
The able wife is to bring only profit and no loss, rise before dawn, buy land prudently, plant a vineyard with her earnings, keep her lamp burning all night, gird herself to work, be generous to the poor, lend a hand to the forlorn, talk shrewd sense, offer kindly counsel, and never be idle.

New testament
1CO 11:3-10
A woman is to keep her head covered while praying or prophesying.

1CO 14:34-35
Women are to be silent in church. If they have any questions, they are to ask their husbands at home. It is a shame for women to speak in church.

1TI 2:9, 1PE 3:3
Women should not braid their hair, or wear gold or pearls or costly attire.

1TI 2:11-12
Women are to learn in silence (from men) in all submissiveness.

1TI 2:12
Women are not permitted to teach or have authority over men.

Dtruthspeaker, Can your women folks be treated in such ways and you'll be happy?

How was the virginity test done when the Lord Ordered a Massacre!

Numbers 31:17-18
So now, kill all the boys, as well as every woman who has had relations with a man, but spare for yourselves every girl who has never had relations with a man.

All boys/men were killed.

All women who had previously had sex were killed.

Only virgins were spared!

Numbers 31:35
and 32,000 women who had not slept with a man.

How was this known? Will they have to open them up and use a speculum as in HVS test or what?

I don't have Holy Spirit, Someone with the Holy Spirit should help with the answer!

Dtruthspeaker

Elisha and the Two Bears (2 Kings 2:23-25)

23 Then he (Elisha) went up from there to Bethel; and as he was going up by the way, young lads came out from the city and mocked him and said to him, “Go up, you baldhead; go up, you baldhead!” 24 When he looked behind him and saw them, he cursed them in the name of the LORD. Then two female bears came out of the woods and tore up forty-two lads of their number. 25 And he went from there to Mount Carmel, and from there he returned to Samaria.

So who killed the 42 kids and why were kids killed for mocking a man of God?

Was Jesus of the Bible involved here?

Dtruthspeaker

NoahHadNoArk:
Why was Lot’s Wife’s punishment for disobedience so harsh?!

Tell me how would you punish a woman like this who after all this is looking back at her friend?

https://www.nairaland.com/8013826/ordeal-uk-wife#128667720

AntiChristian:
Is there any sane lessons from Genesis 38, one of the ancestors of Jesus Christ?

Why God no kill the Father Judah?

See why i always say you muslims are mad?

Every sane person knows that marriage is not the wrong exactly as no one says a christian marrying an atheist or an ibo marrying an hausa is wrong.

But of course, madmuslims like you are not capable of seeing this.

Dtruthspeaker:


See why i always say you muslims are mad?

Every sane person knows that marriage is not the wrong exactly as no one says a christian marrying an atheist or an ibo marrying an hausa is wrong.

But of course, madmuslims like you are not capable of seeing this.

Mad mumblings!

How is this related to what I posted?

AntiChristian:


Mad mumblings!

How is this related to what I posted?

See, madmuslim cannot see it is what he asked.

Dtruthspeaker:


See, madmuslim cannot see it is what he asked.

See uncouth-illbredholySpirit devilishChristian who can't simply answer questions than to call people mad! Your parents really tried in raising you!

AntiChristian:

See uncouth-illbredholySpirit devilishChristian who can't simply answer questions than to call people mad! Your parents really tried in raising you!

Look at a mad person behaving exactly how a mad person behaves and complaining that i am calling him mad? You are just proving that you are truly mad as already proven by the fact that you are incapable of understanding what every sane person understands all because of the mad pain you are getting because of the stupid and mad indefensible shits contained in your koran which TenQ and others are pointing out. So, in your stupid mad anger, you think to attack the bible, forgetting that if there was anything wrong in them atheists and even churchgoers would have pointed them out long before you madmuslims.

But you are still a failure here and you have no thing so go back and tell Mohammed to fix his koran or burn it up, we dont care For it is already clear beyond reasonable doubt that it is a very evil and mad product.

Dtruthspeaker:


Look at a mad person behaving exactly how a mad person behaves and complaining that i am calling him mad? You are just proving that you are truly mad as already proven by the fact that you are incapable of understanding what every sane person understands all because of the mad pain you are getting because of the stupid and mad indefensible shits contained in your koran which TenQ and others are pointing out. So, in your stupid mad anger, you think to attack the bible, forgetting that if there was anything wrong in them atheists and even churchgoers would have pointed them out long before you madmuslims.

But you are still a failure here and you have no thing so go back and tell Mohammed to fix his koran or burn it up, we dont care For it is already clear beyond reasonable doubt that it is a very evil and mad product.

I still can't get what this pikin is saying!

AntiChristian:
It behooves us to look at how women have been treated in the past as narrated in the Bible!

Old testament


Dtruthspeaker, Can your women folks be treated in such ways and you'll be happy?

First, You are a mad muslim so clearly it is understandable how and why you cannot understand this simple Laws for even without the bible sane people were already doing this.

Secondly, you muslims treat your.women even worse eg https://www.nairaland.com/678977/muslim-girl-stoned-death-participating/5#8440062

https://www.nairaland.com/7921333/honour-killing-man-butchers-20yr#127143849

Dtruthspeaker:


First, You are a mad muslim so clearly it is understandable how and why you cannot understand this simple Laws for even without the bible sane people were already doing this.

Secondly, you muslims treat your.women even worse eg https://www.nairaland.com/678977/muslim-girl-stoned-death-participating/5#8440062

https://www.nairaland.com/7921333/honour-killing-man-butchers-20yr#127143849

You should have just quote verses that says we should treat them as such liar!

AntiChristian:


You should have just quote verses that says we should treat them as such liar!

You are a madmuslim and a devil as proven that you people treat your women even worse, so it is understandable that you are incapable of understanding,

Dtruthspeaker:


You are a madmuslim and a devil as proven that you people treat your women even worse, so it is understandable that you are incapable of understanding,

You go still enter temple..it starts with abuse..then cursing...enter market dey flog people!


Matthew 23:33
"You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell?

Luke 11:40
You foolish people! Did not the one who made the outside make the inside also?

Matthew 16:23
Jesus turned and said to Peter, "Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the things of God, but the things of men."

What type of perfect role model is this to follow? He went around insulting people while he preached, while at the same time he told his followers to show love to their enemies? He even went so far as calling one of his disciples "Satan"!! Why couldn't Jesus be more patient and hold his tongue?

Jesus even got a bit physical at times...

John 2:15
When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 14In the temple courts he found men selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. 15So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple area, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. 16To those who sold doves he said, "Get these out of here! How dare you turn my Father's house into a market!"