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Kobojunkie:
Your every comment screams, "The God of Israel is a liar,same as His Son, Jesus Christ."

You can't seem to maneuver your way into speaking the truth, can you?

Galatians 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Ken4Christ:
■ Galatians 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

Quoting from the letters of Paul which you obviously have little or no true grasp of will not change any of the damning statements you have made to this point against the God of Israel and Jesus Christ, His Son..

Kobojunkie:
Quoting from the letters of Paul which you obviously have little or no true grasp of will not change any of the damning statements you have made to this point against the God of Israel and Jesus Christ, His Son..

Galatians 1:1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead

Ken4Christ:
∆ Galatians 1:1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead

See this one! So, because you yourself claim to be of Jesus Christ's followers whom you know absolutely nothing of that means we should ignore every single lie/evidence to the contrary you have revealed here , abi?

Kobojunkie:
See this one! So, because you yourself claim to be of Jesus Christ's followers whom you know absolutely nothing of that means we should ignore every single lie/evidence to the contrary you have revealed here , abi?

1st Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Ken4Christ:
■ 1st Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

That statement by Paul is meant as an indictment against you and others like you who pretend to know God yet have no true knowledge or experience of Him like the Pharisees and Sadducees before you who equally thought that by throwing around the name of God, they were justified by Him. You pretend with your mouths to know of God but your hearts are filled with lies and the truth of God appears as nothing but foolishness to you.

Kobojunkie:
That statement by Paul is meant as an indictment against you and others like you who pretend to know God yet have no true knowledge or experience of Him like the Pharisees and Sadducees before you who equally thought that by throwing around the name of God, they were justified by Him. You pretend with your mouths to know of God but your hearts are filled with lies and the truth of God appears as nothing but foolishness to you.

Hebrews 7:18-19
18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.

19 For the LAW MADE NOTHING PERFECT, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by th

Ken4Christ:
■ Hebrews 7:18-19
18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.
19 For the LAW MADE NOTHING PERFECT, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by th

Again, your confusion regarding what is stated only reveals the lie that is your claim to know of Him. Stop fooling yourself thinking you fool others by it.

Kobojunkie:
Again, your confusion regarding what is stated only reveals the lie that is your claim to know of Him. Stop fooling yourself thinking you fool others by it.

Romans 7:6 But now we are DELIVERED FROM THE LAW, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

Continue to argue with scriptures. Son of perdition.

Ken4Christ:
■ Romans 7:6 But now we are DELIVERED FROM THE LAW, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
Continue to argue with scriptures. Son of perdition.

What you are posting is not scripture since all you are doing is attempting to skew, by pulling these statements out of context, the original message of those authors for your convenience - twist it so it follows your lies. But you continue to fail woefully. Paul never in fact meant in any of his letters that the Law of Moses was abolished. He never actually said that. Rather, what Paul continued to point out, and this to those who are born-again — the primary audience of most all of His letters, whose attachment to the Old Law has been served by their being born into a New Law instead— is that their attachment to the Old Law was ended and now they are born into a new Law.

You can't understand this because you are one of those Paul said that the Truth of God amounts to nothing but foolishness. You have no clue regarding that, and that is why you go around lying that the Old Law has been abolished when in fact that Law is an Eternal Covenant. Your lack of understanding of what an Eternal Covenant means serves to indict your every claim to belong to the God of Israel and His Son Jesus Christ.

Kobojunkie:
What you are posting is not scripture since all you are doing is attempting to skew, by pulling these statements out of context, the original message of those authors for your convenience - twist it so it follows your lies. But you continue to fail woefully. Paul never in fact meant in any of his letters that the Law of Moses was abolished. He never actually said that. Rather, what Paul continued to point out, and this to those who are born-again — the primary audience of most all of His letters, whose attachment to the Old Law has been served by their being born into a New Law instead— is that their attachment to the Old Law was ended and now they are born into a new Law.

You can't understand this because you are one of those Paul said that the Truth of God amounts to nothing but foolishness. You have no clue regarding that, and that is why you go around lying that the Old Law has been abolished when in fact that Law is an Eternal Covenant. Your lack of understanding of what an Eternal Covenant means serves to indict your every claim to belong to the God of Israel and His Son Jesus Christ.

You said Paul never meant in any of his letters that the Law of Moses is abolished. Please interpret the passage of the scripture below for us;

Ephesians 2:14-15
14  For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;

 15  Having ABOLISHED in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace.

I can give you many more evidences. You are so ignorant and you love to argue. This is my last post on this. If you like deny the clear evidence of the scripture above. Your lies and dishonesty will send you to the pit of hell if you don't repent.

Ken4Christ:
■ You said Paul never meant in any of his letters that the Law of Moses is abolished. Please interpret the passage of the scripture below for us;
Ephesians 2:14-15
14  For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
 15  Having ABOLISHED in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace.
I can give you many more evidences. You are so ignorant and you love to argue. This is my last post on this. If you like deny the clear evidence of the scripture above. Your lies and dishonesty will send you to the pit of hell if you don't repent.

Clearly, yours is not only an issue of ignorance but also of lack of comprehension as well. Again, the passage you quoted does not say that the Law was abolished. What you are posting is not scripture since all you are doing is attempting to skew, by pulling these statements out of context, the original message of those authors for your convenience - twist it so it follows your lies. But you continue to fail woefully. Paul never in fact meant in any of his letters that the Law of Moses was abolished. He never actually said that. Rather, what Paul continued to point out, and this to those who are born-again — the primary audience of most all of His letters, whose attachment to the Old Law has been served by their being born into a New Law instead— is that their attachment to the Old Law was ended and now they are born into a new Law.

14 Christ is the reason we are now at peace. He made us Jews and you who are not Jews one people. We were separated by a wall of hate that stood between us, but Christ broke down that wall. By giving his own body,
15 Christ ended the law with its many commands and rules. His purpose was to make the two groups become one in him. By doing this he would make peace.
16 Through the cross Christ ended the hate between the two groups. And after they became one body, he wanted to bring them both back to God. He did this with his death on the cross.
17 Christ came and brought the message of peace to you non-Jews who were far away from God. And he brought that message of peace to those who were near to God.
18 Yes, through Christ we all have the right to come to the Father in one Spirit. - Ephesians 2 vs 14 - 18

What Paul wrote above applies only to those who are in Jesus Christ — those who are born-again. All the Israelites who are not born-again continue to exist to this day under the weight of the Old Law of Moses which is an eternal law that was never abolished by the coming of Jesus Christ.

You can't understand this because you are one of those Paul said that the Truth of God amounts to nothing but foolishness. You have no clue regarding that, and that is why you go around lying that the Old Law has been abolished when in fact that Law is an Eternal Covenant. Your lack of understanding of what an Eternal Covenant means serves to indict your every claim to belong to the God of Israel and His Son Jesus Christ.

Kobojunkie:
Clearly, yours is not only an issue of ignorance but also of lack of comprehension as well. Again, the passage you quoted does not say that the Law was abolished. What you are posting is not scripture since all you are doing is attempting to skew, by pulling these statements out of context, the original message of those authors for your convenience - twist it so it follows your lies. But you continue to fail woefully. Paul never in fact meant in any of his letters that the Law of Moses was abolished. He never actually said that. Rather, what Paul continued to point out, and this to those who are born-again — the primary audience of most all of His letters, whose attachment to the Old Law has been served by their being born into a New Law instead— is that their attachment to the Old Law was ended and now they are born into a new Law.
What Paul wrote above applies only to those who are in Jesus Christ — those who are born-again. All the Israelites who are not born-again continue to exist to this day under the weight of the Old Law of Moses which is an eternal law that was never abolished by the coming of Jesus Christ.

You can't understand this because you are one of those Paul said that the Truth of God amounts to nothing but foolishness. You have no clue regarding that, and that is why you go around lying that the Old Law has been abolished when in fact that Law is an Eternal Covenant. Your lack of understanding of what an Eternal Covenant means serves to indict your every claim to belong to the God of Israel and His Son Jesus Christ.

Junior brother of Satan, Mr Liar. Continue. You will regret when you land in the pit of hell. May God deliver weak souls in Nairaland from your lies in the mighty name of Jesus. Amen.

Ken4Christ:
■ Junior brother of Satan, Mr Liar. Continue. You will regret when you land in the pit of hell. May God deliver weak souls in Nairaland from your lies in the mighty name of Jesus. Amen.

This from the very same person who proclaims the God of Israel and His Son, Jesus Christ, as both liars in his every comment. Your religious desperation seems to know no end.

Ken4Christ:
The Apostles and Elders of the early church agreed that the Law of Moses should not be imposed on the Gentiles. Are you aware of this?

Oooh. Still moving from stadium to stadium. Is it not The Law that they that "they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood, which was what Aposltles and Eldets Ordered?

See, No Road!

Ken4Christ:
Junior brother of Satan, Mr Liar. Continue. You will regret when you land in the pit of hell. May God deliver weak souls in Nairaland from your lies in the mighty name of Jesus. Amen.

Funny Churchian!

Dtruthspeaker:
Oooh. Still moving from stadium to stadium. Is it not The Law that they that "they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood, which was what Aposltles and Eldets Ordered?

See, No Road!

Sure, the Law also cautious us against those vices but the Law of Moses is much more than that. It contains over 600 distinct instructions and you are obliged to keep all. The most sacred is circumcision which the Apostles said it was no longer necessary.

The fact that we are no longer under the Law of Moses doesn't mean that we live lives without regards to moral instructions. The moral instructions in the new testament is even stricter than that of the old.

Under the Old Testament, you have to sleep with a woman to be guilty of adultery. But under the new, you are guilty of adultery when you lust after a woman.

Under the Law of Moses, you have to kill to be guilty of murder. But under the new, you are guilty of murder if you hate your brother.

Ken4Christ:
Sure, the Law also cautious us against those vices but the Law of Moses is much more than that. It contains over 600 distinct instructions and you are obliged to keep all. ..

Even before The Lord Said it did you not already know? Eg Did you not already feel the guilt when you bend down to look in between a woman's legs? Or when you go near a bathroom where you know a woman is taking her bath? Or to go near the room when a wonan is dressing up?

Or who does not know that he is guilty of killing when we wish a person dead eg when we say with our whole souls "i wish say i fit kill you"?

Please, leave me out of your unending stupid moving of post and thank God you.have now.seen by yourself that the Apostles and Elders Commanded the obedience to The Law, so you have no excuse for not obeying God, if you truly wanted to obey Him.

Dtruthspeaker:
Even before The Lord Said it did you not already know? Eg Did you not already feel the guilt when you bend down to look in between a woman's legs? Or when you go near a bathroom where you know a woman is taking her bath? Or to go near the room when a wonan is dressing up?

Or who does not know that he is guilty of killing when we wish a person dead eg when we say with our whole souls "i wish say i fit kill you"?

Please, leave me out of your unending stupid moving of post and thank God you.have now.seen by yourself that the Apostles and Elders Commanded the obedience to The Law, so you have no excuse for not obeying God, if you truly wanted to obey Him.

Are you aware that fornication was never mentioned as a sin under the Law of Moses? If you sleep with a virgin, you are compelled to marry that virgin.

The Apostles and Elders never commanded that the Law of Moses should be obeyed. And you read it. You are just too proud admit that I am right.

Ken4Christ:
Are you aware that fornication was never mentioned as a sin under the Law of Moses? If you sleep with a virgin, you are compelled to marry that virgin. t.

Did you not see the word compelled? Is that not the same compelled ypu get when you steal and you are compelled to restore up to 5 times?

There is no excuse for not obeying The Law

Dtruthspeaker:
Did you not see the word compelled? Is that not the same compelled ypu get when you steal and you are compelled to restore up to 5 times?

There is no excuse for not obeying The Law

Are you obeying the Law of Moses? I mean all the over 600 distinct instructions? Don't lie. Answer yes or no m

Ken4Christ:
Are you obeying the Law of Moses? I mean all the over 600 distinct instructions? Don't lie. Answer yes or no m

Off Point. You are the one in view and in issue.

Dtruthspeaker:
Off Point. You are the one in view and in issue.

I am not off point. You are asking people to obey a law you that you are not even acquainted with the content of it talk more of obeying them. Are you not an hypocrite?

Ken4Christ:
I am not off point. You are asking people to obey a law you that you are not even acquainted with the content of it talk more of obeying them. Are you not an hypocrite?

It is off point. You were the one in view and in focus.

Dtruthspeaker:
It is off point. You were the one in view and in focus.

Why not humble yourself and admit you have learnt something new. I can give you more lecture freely on the subject. Just be humble and learn.

Ken4Christ:
Why not humble yourself and admit you have learnt something new. I can give you more lecture freely on the subject. Just be humble and learn.

Says a liar and a multiple failure despite all the twistings and change of posts. Hellfire is certainly going to be your permanent residence.

Ken4Christ:
Why not humble yourself and admit you have learnt something new. I can give you more lecture freely on the subject. Just be humble and learn.

I read through your post .. thank you so much for educating and teaching the word as it is ... not as they wish

Anyone can go and have opinion and argue with the Bible .. fact is that they have heard the word undiluted

Not you explaining .. but the scriptures

Some are unteachable..
Some are destiny for hell
Some are just ignorant.. which is never an excuse


All these are sign of endtimes .. the coming of the lord is so near ..

Pray God gives us the grace to continue to abide in him till we see him in glory.

The Lord God is your strength ...

God bless you

Frigga13:
I read through your post .. thank you so much for educating and teaching the word as it is ... not as they wish

Anyone can go and have opinion and argue with the Bible .. fact is that they have heard the word undiluted

Not you explaining .. but the scriptures

Some are unteachable..
Some are destiny for hell
Some are just ignorant.. which is never an excuse


All these are sign of endtimes .. the coming of the lord is so near ..

Pray God gives us the grace to continue to abide in him till we see him in glory.

The Lord God is your strength ...

God bless you

Amen. Thank you.

Ken4Christ:
I had to come up with this thread to enlighten us on the writings of Paul to the church. It's because of the recent comment by Suleman Johnson that Jesus spoke to him that his friend that died mysteriously was teaching Paul's message and not his revelation. Johnson Suleman even added that Apostle Peter discredited the writings of Apostle Paul.

I want to make a submission here backed up with scriptures that the church would have been in the dark without the letters Apostle Paul wrote to the churches.

First of all, Apostle Paul didn't call himself into the Ministry. He was actually persecuting the church until he had an encounter with Jesus that changed the story of his life.

Apostle Paul was the only Apostle that was given deep revelation about the church, what God did for us in Christ, who we are in Christ, what we can do because of our union with Christ and even how the rapture will take place.

Let me begin to list some of his unique revelation without which we would have been in the dark and even the ministry of reconciliation committed to our trust would have suffered a setback.

1. The principle of salvation as revealed by Apostle Paul.

Romans 10:9-10
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

The passage above is the template we normally use when leading lost souls to Christ.

The other Apostles never gave us any such template. The work of soul winning would have suffered a great setback without this template.

Even our Lord Jesus didn't give us this template. His emphasis was just to believe in him. But Paul went further to say that we must confess what we believe to be saved. And it was the Lord Jesus who revealed it to him. So, Jesus is the source of Paul's revelation.

Our Lord Jesus said that he had so many things to say but he couldn't say them because the disciples didn't have the capacity to receive them at that time. So he said that the other things we need to know will be revealed by the Holy Spirit who he will send down.

So the writings of Paul are divine revelations given to him by the Holy Spirit. They are not his personal opinions. He let us know a few times he gave his personal opinions.

So, it's absurd for anyone to discredit the writings of Paul. They are divine revelations from Christ himself without which the church would have been in the dark and the work of soul winning committed to our trust would have suffered a setback.

I will unveil more of this unique revelation in this thread.

You are free to make your comments but they should be backed up with scriptures.

Jesus was sent not Paul. Jesus delivered the message holding nothing back. Paul teaching replaced pure monotheism to polytheism.

Jesus never ascribed divinity to himself and never teach trinity and many pagan ideas packages as today Christianity.

Auki:
■ Jesus was sent not Paul. Jesus delivered the message holding nothing back. Paul teaching replaced pure monotheism to polytheism.
Jesus never ascribed divinity to himself and never teach trinity and many pagan ideas packages as today Christianity.

Isn't this what it means to be intentionally blind? I mean I get that the other guy you responded to may be blind as a result of lack of education or many cause his ego is bigger than his head but come on, have you ever read through the 4 Gospels for yourself at all?

Jesus Christ said the following about Himself:
● He is the Eternal Life of God
● He is the Word out of God's own mouth
● He lays down His mortal life and picks it back up again
● He is the I AM - Eternal being
● He is the judge, jury, executioner, the one who determines the Eternal fate of all the sheep and goats in His Kingdom
● He is King in the Kingdom of God
...
I could go on and on, but the major here is that Jesus Christ spoke at length of His divinity. Why feign ignorance of this only so you can falsely accuse Paul of this? The Trinity idea is wholly a product of the religion of Christianity and they had no hand, fortunately in writing any of the Gospels — this much we know.

Auki:
Jesus was sent not Paul. Jesus delivered the message holding nothing back. Paul teaching replaced pure monotheism to polytheism.

Jesus never ascribed divinity to himself and never teach trinity and many pagan ideas packages as today Christianity.

I don't know if your ignorance can be redeemed.