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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by WhoDeyHause: 5:17pm On Mar 25
andrewbaba44:


Bundesliga don suffer
But their clubs still dey hammer you.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 5:23pm On Mar 25
WhoDeyHause:

But you enter twitter view the link on your account. Didn't you?
Noooo

Lemme jarey cheesy cheesy cheesy grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by zeusis(m): 5:40pm On Mar 25
andrewbaba44:


Rooney is far far talented than foden or any current English player
Walai he is even one of the most underrated players

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by PDPGuy: 6:12pm On Mar 25
An Italian paper is claiming that Osimhen has agreed personal terms with CFC🤯
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Joezinho: 6:29pm On Mar 25
Android17:
1. Kane cannot play 5 positions adequately. Kane plays just a couple.
2. Kane does not have the same close control and dribbling.
3. Kane did not have the goal scoring ability at the same age.
4. Kane did not have the individual awards at the same age.
5. Kane could not break into far less quality teams at the age Foden did.
6. Kane did not show the same passing range at the same age.

The only English player with similar talent range as Foden was Rooney - not even Owen who was just a goal scorer.

Same Phil Foden of man city or another one?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Joezinho: 6:31pm On Mar 25
Android17:


The only English player with similar talent range as Foden was Rooney - not even Owen who was just a goal scorer.


Just a goal scorer at 22 years old.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:06pm On Mar 25
A001:
Ramdeuter, Hazard says hi.

List wey Jermaine Defoe, Les Ferdinand dey. Sure makes sense
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by zeusis(m): 7:06pm On Mar 25
Joezinho:


Just a goal scorer at 22 years old.
Beat the likes of kaka, zidane, ronaldinho, el fenomeno e.t.c to clinch this.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:07pm On Mar 25
andrewbaba44:


Bundesliga don suffer

Shey e suffer reach wetin Haaland do to EPL in his first season as a 22yr old
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 7:11pm On Mar 25
raumdeuter:


Shey e suffer reach wetin Haaland do to EPL in his first season as a 22yr old

At least We all know Kane will do well at Bayern

But many of them here said Haaland will not get bundesliga numbers at the epl ,and he did more than that
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 7:35pm On Mar 25
zeusis:

Beat the likes of kaka, zidane, ronaldinho, el fenomeno e.t.c to clinch this.
Ahhh....no ooo

While this is laudable but this is like winning Europa League while dem boys you mentioned up there are winning champions League.(ie FIFA world best)
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 8:26pm On Mar 25
Joezinho:


Just a goal scorer at 22 years old.
Yes he won that for just being a goal scorer. Jorginho has won that award right? He is better than Scholes.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by zeusis(m): 8:26pm On Mar 25
andrewbaba44:


At least We all know Kane will do well at Bayern

But many of them here said Haaland will not get bundesliga numbers at the epl ,and he did more than that

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 8:27pm On Mar 25
Joezinho:

Same Phil Foden of man city or another one?
The same one. If there is any fact I put there you can challenge it by proving it is false.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 8:28pm On Mar 25
andrewbaba44:


Rooney is far far talented than foden or any current English player
He is not.

Foden was the U-17 World Cup Golden Ball winner. All these nonsense I am reading here is because he is a City player. Imagine people even blatantly lying and talking off point just to talk him down. LOL
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 8:29pm On Mar 25
zeusis:

Wilshere?
Wilshere was very talented but he did not produce long enough to maximize it so we'll never know.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 8:33pm On Mar 25
popizaino:


After all this Kane is still the undisputed No 9 for England.

Kane can play across the attacker,can support,can play from the wing.
Kane can only play 9 and 10. He cannot play across the front 3 as he is not quick. So that puts paid to him playing from the wings. He cannot.

His goal scoring is one of his talents which nobody is refuting however he is a striker. That is the first talent he is supposed to have. Kane is worldclass. I am talking about him vs Foden in terms of quantity of talent.

Foden can play LW, RW, SS and false 9. He is a natural 10 yet until this season you barely ever saw him play there.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by WhoDeyHause: 8:34pm On Mar 25
Android17:
Yes he won that for just being a goal scorer. Jorginho has won that award right? He is better than Scholes.
When did jorginho win ballon dor?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 8:34pm On Mar 25
Sportsweb:
Total bullshit.

Foden is nowhere near Kane's level.

Foden isn't even better than Saka and Rashford.


I only blame Spurs Sha.
You need to reply like you understand the argument.

I did not say Foden is at Kane's current level.

I said Foden has MORE talent A.K.A can do more on a football pitch than Kane. And by the end of their careers it will be CLEAR as day.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by zeusis(m): 8:39pm On Mar 25
Sportsweb:
Total bullshit.

Foden is nowhere near Kane's level.

Foden isn't even better than Saka and Rashford.


I only blame Spurs Sha.
How did you manage to sneak in Rashford?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by WhoDeyHause: 8:40pm On Mar 25
Sportsweb:
Total bullshit.

Foden is nowhere near Kane's level.

Foden isn't even better than Saka and Rashford.


I only blame Spurs Sha.
I swear it's just that trophy less and ambition less club that caused all these see finish walai.
If only levy wasn't very greedy in 2021 maybe we wouldn't be seeing all these wild takes.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 8:40pm On Mar 25
WhoDeyHause:

When did jorginho win ballon dor?
I even thought he won it in 2021. Well Scholes never finished on a podium right?

Now I don't believe Jorginho was ever at Scholes level. I am just showing why that logic is not fail safe.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 8:51pm On Mar 25
airmark:


At Foden's age, Kane had won 2 Epl golden boots, 2 England's player of the year awards, and World cup golden boot. Foden has nothing close to highlight his prowess.

As we speak, they are thinking of changing Bundesliga to KANEdesliga.

Eruditor, don't stretch it (your arm leg).

You are typing off tangent and lying while at it.

Foden is 23. Harry Kane's first golden boot in the EPL was 2016 when he was 23. Harry Kane is a striker by the way.

Foden had won a world cup for England at U-17 when he was 17. Where was Harry at 17? On Loan at Leyton Orient. Stop lying.

Foden had already won PFA Young player and EPL Young Player of the season back to back when he was 21 and 22 respectively. Kane won it ONCE at 21.

We are talking talent level of players and you are telling me a striker has more goals than a midfielder. Educated people don't argue that way.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by WhoDeyHause: 8:51pm On Mar 25
Android17:
I even thought he won it in 2021. Well Scholes never finished on a podium right?

Now I don't believe Jorginho was ever at Scholes level. I am just showing why that logic is not fail safe.
Baba there's no measure yet you can use to call foden a more talented player than Kane unless he maybe scores like messi or Ronaldo not being a fixed striker. There's a reason why apari wanted Kane by all means in 2021 before levy's greed pushed him away. Kane isn't a fixed center forward like haaland mostly waiting for balls, he moves like a striker even coming deep into the midfield to get the ball or orchestrate plays. He moves just like benzema while still topping it with much goals too.
Kane finished as the top scorer with 23 goals and also the top assister with 14 assists in the premier league. For 7th position tottenham. The last person that did that was Andy Cole in 1994. We will wait to see if foden will do that too.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 9:01pm On Mar 25
WhoDeyHause:

Baba there's no measure yet you can use to call foden a more talented player than Kane unless he maybe scores like messi or Ronaldo not being a fixed striker. There's a reason why apari wanted Kane by all means in 2021 before levy's greed pushed him away. Kane isn't a fixed center forward like haaland mostly waiting for balls, he moves like a striker even coming deep into the midfield to get the ball or orchestrate plays. He moves just like benzema while still topping it with much goals too.
Kane finished as the top scorer with 23 goals and also the top assister with 14 assists in the premier league. For 7th position tottenham. The last person that did that was Andy Cole in 1994. We will wait to see if foden will do that too.
You're not understanding the argument.

Talent just means which of them has more attributes that can be employed more on a football pitch.

Kane is excellent at scoring and linking up. He is meh in other things. Not quick. Can't dribble. Can't play more than 2 positions.

Think of things this way. If you had Messi or R9 or Rooney. You won't need Harry Kane. They can do what he does, but then influence the game in other ways.

Foden can play LW, RW, SS, false 9 even though he is an excellent 10. So even if he cannot bench KDB as a 10, Pep can still play him in LW and RW without much negative impact. In other words Foden can do more. Hence he is more talented.

That does not mean he is at Kane's current level.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by WhoDeyHause: 9:21pm On Mar 25
Android17:
You're not understanding the argument.

Talent just means which of them has more attributes that can be employed more on a football pitch.

Kane is excellent at scoring and linking up. He is meh in other things. Not quick. Can't dribble. Can't play more than 2 positions.

Think of things this way. If you had Messi or R9 or Rooney. You won't need Harry Kane. They can do what he does, but then influence the game in other ways.

Foden can play LW, RW, SS, false 9 even though he is an excellent 10. So even if he cannot bench KDB as a 10, Pep can still play him in LW and RW without much negative impact. In other words Foden can do more. Hence he is more talented.

That does not mean he is at Kane's current level.
Talent, Talent as if goalscoring is not a talent on it's own. How many strikers record the amount of goals and assists Kane had in an ambitious less club? He then proved in England it wasn't a fluke by winning the world cup golden boot and becoming England's highest goal scorer. If foden likes let him play monkey post too and be the most versatile player in the world he has to also have a big impact for his country asides from his world class team to stand any ground.
And he also has to finish as the best goal scorer and best assister in a single season.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 9:30pm On Mar 25
WhoDeyHause:

Talent, Talent as if goalscoring is not a talent on it's own. How many strikers record the amount of goals and assists Kane had in an ambitious less club? He then proved in England it wasn't a fluke by winning the world cup golden boot and becoming England's highest goal scorer. If foden likes let him play monkey post too and be the most versatile player in the world he has to also have a big impact for his country asides from his world class team to stand any ground.
And he also has to finish as the best goal scorer and best assister in a single season.
Again you're missing the point.

Scoring goals is a talent and Kane has it in abundance. But that is 1 talent. Think of Van Nistelrooy or Alan Shearer. They had that talent too.

Kane can also pass the ball at an elite level. That is another talent but this time RVN and Shearer don't have those same attributes so I can say Kane is more talented than both. You won't play RVN or Shearer as 10s if Henry has to play as the striker but you could do that for Kane.

Now use the same metric to judge Phil Foden.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by WhoDeyHause: 9:39pm On Mar 25
Android17:
Again you're missing the point.

Scoring goals is a talent and Kane has it in abundance. But that is 1 talent. Think of Van Nistelrooy or Alan Shearer. They had that talent too.

Kane can also pass the ball at an elite level. That is another talent but this time RVN and Shearer don't have those same attributes so I can say Kane is more talented than both. You won't play RVN or Shearer as 10s if Henry has to play as the striker but you could do that for Kane.

Now use the same metric to judge Phil Foden.

If you say foden is more versatile then we have no choice but to agree with you but when you say talent you have to be slide tackled cause most of the skills you are calling for foden Kane can do it too despite being a striker. He can score, pass, cross, has good movement and off the ball runs, technique, decent dribbler for a big striker even if he's not close to foden.
So?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Android17: 9:53pm On Mar 25
WhoDeyHause:

If you say foden is more versatile then we have no choice but to agree with you but when you say talent you have to be slide tackled cause most of the skills you are calling for foden Kane can do it too despite being a striker. He can score, pass, cross, has good movement and off the ball runs, technique, decent dribbler for a big striker even if he's not close to foden.
So?
I am not rubbishing Kane.

Do you know Lars Ricken? He was probably more talented than Ballack but Ballack achieved more because of injuries.

What you achieve and your talent level do not always correlate. Foden has more talent than Kane. Neymar is more talented than many other players in history but he never won the ballon dor or WPOTY.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by forgiveness: 9:56pm On Mar 25
Android17:
You're not understanding the argument.

Talent just means which of them has more attributes that can be employed more on a football pitch.

Kane is excellent at scoring and linking up. He is meh in other things. Not quick. Can't dribble. Can't play more than 2 positions.

Think of things this way. If you had Messi or R9 or Rooney. You won't need Harry Kane. They can do what he does, but then influence the game in other ways.

Foden can play LW, RW, SS, false 9 even though he is an excellent 10. So even if he cannot bench KDB as a 10, Pep can still play him in LW and RW without much negative impact. In other words Foden can do more. Hence he is more talented.

That does not mean he is at Kane's current level.

Kane's positions

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 10:08pm On Mar 25
Android17:
He is not.

Foden was the U-17 World Cup Golden Ball winner. All these nonsense I am reading here is because he is a City player. Imagine people even blatantly lying and talking off point just to talk him down. LOL

What does u17 World Cup golden ball winner got to do with who is more talented ? No Dey talk this thing abeg

I will never talk down on foden ,but saying he is more talented than Wayne Rooney is pure crap

I am sure sani Emmanuel is more talented than Toni kroos because he outperformed him at the u17 World Cup

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 10:08pm On Mar 25
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Dem plenty boss

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