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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 7:24am On Mar 26
Capaldi:

Croatia golden generation is finished. The last world cup was their last hurrah. Italy under Spalleti might actually shock everyone if they could get a competent striker, their defense and midfield is solid.

Immobile and retegui are good enough to handle things
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 7:26am On Mar 26
BlueRayDick:


Which yeye Foden better than saka? The same Saka that is England's best player for 2 years running ?

Even Foden go argue against u on this one.

Arsenal fan sighted.
cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 7:28am On Mar 26
afrodoc2:


Arsenal fan sighted.
cheesy

Yes o, I no go gree.

Saka has been doing it for club and country, make Foden show workings outside the cozy man city environment.

No Saka slander against mere mortals will be tolerated
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 7:36am On Mar 26
BlueRayDick:


Yes o, I no go gree.

Saka has been doing it for club and country, make Foden show workings outside the cozy man city environment.

No Saka slander against mere mortals will be tolerated

Good that you agreed you are viewing it from a biased point of view. I respect your honesty.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Capaldi: 7:37am On Mar 26
andrewbaba44:


Immobile and retegui are good enough to handle things
Immobile that has always flopped for Italy and Ret that's just a young boy. Those options are mediocre at best.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 7:41am On Mar 26
afrodoc2:


Good that you agreed you are viewing it from a biased point of view. I respect your honesty.

The people pushing the Foden-better-than-Saka narrative are mostly doing it from a biased point of view as well na. Everybody get their own bias
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 7:53am On Mar 26
BlueRayDick:


Which yeye Foden better than saka? The same Saka that is England's best player for 2 years running ?

Even Foden go argue against u on this one.

I don’t expect you to agree with me
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 7:58am On Mar 26
Aguero is unreal

Arsenal Man U Liverpool spurs ,all of them collect

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 8:01am On Mar 26
andrewbaba44:
Aguero is unreal
Arsenal Man U Liverpool spurs ,all of them collect
Post la Liga own.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 8:03am On Mar 26
Trevor012:

Post la Liga own.

Laliga own for Aguero ?

Like for someone who retired after 4 games due to heart problem ?

Of course you are trolling .
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 8:09am On Mar 26
andrewbaba44:


Laliga own for Aguero ?

Like for someone who retired after 4 games due to heart problem ?

Of course you are trolling .
shut up. Aguero has nearly 200 la Liga games which is by the way. Post la Liga own let me see who has destroyed la Liga teams the most.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 8:12am On Mar 26
Trevor012:

shut up. Aguero has nearly 200 la Liga games which is by the way. Post la Liga own let me see who has destroyed la Liga teams the most.

I thought you meant his last return

Go and search and post his Laliga goals against Barcelona Madrid sevilla atletico let’s compare it to the premier league own ,you are the one that brought it up ,so do the job .
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 8:15am On Mar 26
andrewbaba44:


I thought you meant his last return

Go and search and post his Laliga goals against Barcelona Madrid sevilla atletico let’s compare it to the premier league own ,you are the one that brought it up ,so do the job .

Once again shut up. No one is talking about Aguero. The image you posted do you have the la Liga equivalent?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 8:19am On Mar 26
Trevor012:

Once again shut up. No one is talking about Aguero. The image you posted do you have the la Liga equivalent?

Must you always act stupid and useless for simple things ?

No be me tell you make you no sleep well

Off the road .
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Trevor012(m): 8:22am On Mar 26
andrewbaba44:


Must you always act stupid and useless for simple things ?

No be me tell you make you no sleep well

Off the road .
Do you have the image or not? No one asked you not to be able to understand basic English.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 8:45am On Mar 26
andrewbaba44:


I don’t expect you to agree with me


The feeling is mutual bro cool
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 8:50am On Mar 26
BlueRayDick:


The feeling is mutual bro cool

😁
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 8:50am On Mar 26
Guess the striker ,a better striker than Thierry Henry according to some people grin

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kimbeast: 8:58am On Mar 26
andrewbaba44:
Guess the striker ,a better striker than Thierry Henry according to some people grin
Despite all these he still has more Epl golden boots then Aguero and Suarez.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 9:03am On Mar 26
Kimbeast:

Despite all these he still has more Epl golden boots then Aguero and Suarez.

Have more epl goal boots by moving like rashford
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Kimbeast: 9:06am On Mar 26
andrewbaba44:

Have more epl goal boots by moving like rashford
Rashford with zero golden boot?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 9:17am On Mar 26
Kimbeast:

Rashford with zero golden boot?

When i say moving like rashford ,I meant by scoring good goals this season and get poor numbers the following season
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by zeusis(m): 9:28am On Mar 26
Capaldi:

Croatia golden generation is finished. The last world cup was their last hurrah. Italy under Spalleti might actually shock everyone if they could get a competent striker, their defense and midfield is solid.
Retegui seems to be reliable
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by zeusis(m): 9:29am On Mar 26
andrewbaba44:


Immobile and retegui are good enough to handle things
Immobile for national team na ghost of the seven seas. Retegui is very much okay
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by toluxe0075: 10:31am On Mar 26
Capaldi:

Immobile that has always flopped for Italy and Ret that's just a young boy. Those options are mediocre at best.
Na wa o. See one country struggling for strikers while we have more than 6 strikers for the super eagles.

We have our own challenge too sha as our midfield is somehow thin.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 11:11am On Mar 26
afrodoc2:


After analysing everything it is clear to me that England are phucked. And mainly because of the manager.

The solution is to ask Bellingham to sacrifice and move to the 8 position while Foden plays 10 and Saka is on the right. This gives England the dynamism and fluidity that they currently lack, although it weakens them a bit defensively.

The main reason I think this is the solution is because Foden and Jude are both better in central areas. The other major reason is that England has no experienced option at the 8 position, so Jude can do a really good job there. His stats might not be like his Madrid stats but he is a better option there than the alternatives.

Outside that midfield lineup, the other logical option is to bench either Foden or Jude. Stylistically I prefer a Foden type of 10 to a Jude type cos I believe Foden’s style brings more cohesive play to the team than Jude’s. If Jude is not scoring I am not sure how useful he is to the team’s patterns of play. However in a team without a cohesive style and requiring individual heroic performances from the players, Jude is the better option.

P.S I have noticed a trend whereby Barca fans slander Jude while Arsenal fans slander Foden (cos of Saka). Agenda can never be defeated. 😄
The thing is that England has a number 6 In Mainoo. I believe if you're good enough, then you're old enough and Mainoo is someone who have a seasoned pro head on his body. He's 18yrs too so it's not as if he's that kinda small boy sef. Mainoo just solved that conundrum.
Play Mainoo as 6, Rice at 8(this to me is even his best position) and either Bellingham/Foden at 10(or side 8 in a 433) and England won't suffer both offensively and defensively.
Presently, I'll go for Bellingham cos of the kind of striker Kane is but if I want more control and I'll go for Foden but even Bellingham can give me that control I need(as long as it's with Kobbie and Rice), so automatically for me, Foden goes to the bench. He can certainly change game from bench and give something different.

As for "slander". I doubt any arsenal fan slander Foden. We acknowledge his qualities and we know he's a very fine player but what we don't agree is that he's better than Saka. I don't even get the comparison sef cos Saka is a Winger while Foden is a Midfielder. There's no way one can tell me Foden on the wings is better than Saka no matter how versatile foden is.
Agenda or not, Saka on the wings is better than Foden. The kind of Kicks and double marking Saka receives for the past 3 seasons and he still comes out tops, I doubt Foden experiences that.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 11:19am On Mar 26
WhoDeyHause:

But jude has been doing decent for himself under southgate. Infact he's been one of their best players but foden has been rubbish cause he's not been able to adapt. Wing problem, midfield problem. Maybe another coach will come and bring the best out of him cause we all know he's very talented though I don't believe he's more talented than Kane.

My exact thoughts. Jude has better movements in the no 10 role and Kane is more talented at 23.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 11:19am On Mar 26
Jodera:

The thing is that England has a number 6 In Mainoo. I believe if you're good enough, then you're old enough and Mainoo is someone who have a seasoned pro head on his body. He's 18yrs too so it's not as if he's that kinda small boy sef. Mainoo just solved that conundrum.
Play Mainoo as 6, Rice at 8(this to me is even his best position) and either Bellingham/Foden at 10(or side 8 in a 433) and England won't suffer both offensively and defensively.
Presently, I'll go for Bellingham cos of the kind of striker Kane is but if I want more control and I'll go for Foden but even Bellingham can give me that control I need(as long as it's with Kobbie and Rice), so automatically for me, Foden goes to the bench. He can certainly change game from bench and give something different.

As for "slander". I doubt any arsenal fan slander Foden. We acknowledge his qualities and we know he's a very fine player but what we don't agree is that he's better than Saka. I don't even get the comparison sef cos Saka is a Winger while Foden is a Midfielder. There's no way one can tell me Foden on the wings is better than Saka no matter how versatile foden is.
Agenda or not, Saka on the wings is better than Foden. The kind of Kicks and double marking Saka receives for the past 3 seasons and he still comes out tops, I doubt Foden experiences that.

This is the gospel truth. Foden is one player I really really admire for his versitility across the frontline.

I just do not agree he is better than Saka as a winger.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 11:23am On Mar 26
afrodoc2:


After analysing everything it is clear to me that England are phucked. And mainly because of the manager.

The solution is to ask Bellingham to sacrifice and move to the 8 position while Foden plays 10 and Saka is on the right. This gives England the dynamism and fluidity that they currently lack, although it weakens them a bit defensively.

The main reason I think this is the solution is because Foden and Jude are both better in central areas. The other major reason is that England has no experienced option at the 8 position, so Jude can do a really good job there. His stats might not be like his Madrid stats but he is a better option there than the alternatives.

Outside that midfield lineup, the other logical option is to bench either Foden or Jude. Stylistically I prefer a Foden type of 10 to a Jude type cos I believe Foden’s style brings more cohesive play to the team than Jude’s. If Jude is not scoring I am not sure how useful he is to the team’s patterns of play. However in a team without a cohesive style and requiring individual heroic performances from the players, Jude is the better option.

P.S I have noticed a trend whereby Barca fans slander Jude while Arsenal fans slander Foden (cos of Saka). Agenda can never be defeated. 😄

Agree. I just think it might not end up well. Could be a repeat of Van Persie at United under Nwoyes, giving a killer pass to another CF (who then missed the goal due to poor finishing) instead of being the one receiving the pass.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jodera: 11:26am On Mar 26
Android17:
The same reason France was built around Zidane not Henry when both were playing. KDB is in conversations for being the greatest ever player in EPL history so Foden has to adjust for him. Same way Fabregas was not deployed in midfield when better midfielders like Xavi, Iniesta and Alonso where in the national team.

Same reason Saliba cannot get a shirt for France. Or will Odegaard play 10 for City with KdB? Or will Arteta build his team around Saka vs KDB?
You're still buttressing my point. grin

All these examples you gave, they're all spines/core players in their clubs and I mean top clubs.

Zidane(Madrid)/Henry(arsenal)— both are core players in top club not just in one season

Xavi(Barca)/ Fabregas (arsenal)— both are core players in top club not just in one season

And so on.

In this England squad, Kane(Tottenham/Bayern), Bellingham (Dortmund/Madrid) and Saka (arsenal) are real core players in their respective clubs. So it's natural for any coach to build his team around any of them.

Foden(until this season) wasn't a core player. While it's not his fault due to the presence of Kdb, how do you expect a national team coach to build his team around him?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 11:27am On Mar 26
BlueRayDick:


This is the gospel truth. Foden is one player I really really admire for his versitility across the frontline.

I just do not agree he is better than Saka as a winger.

He’s not. One could even argue that Bowen at RW is better than Foden.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 11:33am On Mar 26
Jodera:

The thing is that England has a number 6 In Mainoo. I believe if you're good enough, then you're old enough and Mainoo is someone who have a seasoned pro head on his body. He's 18yrs too so it's not as if he's that kinda small boy sef. Mainoo just solved that conundrum.
Play Mainoo as 6, Rice at 8(this to me is even his best position) and either Bellingham/Foden at 10(or side 8 in a 433) and England won't suffer both offensively and defensively.
Presently, I'll go for Bellingham cos of the kind of striker Kane is but if I want more control and I'll go for Foden but even Bellingham can give me that control I need(as long as it's with Kobbie and Rice), so automatically for me, Foden goes to the bench. He can certainly change game from bench and give something different.

As for "slander". I doubt any arsenal fan slander Foden. We acknowledge his qualities and we know he's a very fine player but what we don't agree is that he's better than Saka. I don't even get the comparison sef cos Saka is a Winger while Foden is a Midfielder. There's no way one can tell me Foden on the wings is better than Saka no matter how versatile foden is.
Agenda or not, Saka on the wings is better than Foden. The kind of Kicks and double marking Saka receives for the past 3 seasons and he still comes out tops, I doubt Foden experiences that.

Enough tactical flexibility could see Foden play LW+AM with Rice, Jude and Kobbie in midfield. You’d have to support him with a LB that bombs forward a lot since Foden likes to tuck inside. This structure provides width, is stable defensively and also potent offensively.

Since Rashford hasn’t had a great season, dropping him to the bench might make sense. If things don’t work out you can bring on Gordon. Or even Rashford to provide better wing play.

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