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Re: US To Withdraw From Niger As Security Pact Fails In Strategic Victory For Russia by 0m0luabi: 9:03am On Apr 21
sslcrypt:


You are a fool, Russia is only flexing because NATO have no boots on the ground fully in ukraine. Let the war in Ukraine turns into a full blown one, then you will realize how exposed these useless military junta really are with no diplomatic sense. You will never see the ARABS outrightly favoring Russia over USA or vice versa. It's only the black man that will always be stupid in their reasoning and thought process. After years of stemming the tide of terrorist group movement via intelligence sharing then you back stab me. Niger will burn because one thing you should know is that no nation is as experienced as USA in counter terrorism. What does Russia know? Russia is only good at installing an authoritarian and safe guarding the authoritarian. You think the Chinese don't have the same capacity? Why do you think they are smart in staying away.
stay away from drug foolish boy

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Re: US To Withdraw From Niger As Security Pact Fails In Strategic Victory For Russia by wirinet(m): 9:04am On Apr 21
SuccessfulRichi:
It Will never make your economy to get better bro. Control your resources black race. Venezuela did the same with Americans. Replaced them with china and Russia today they are begging USA to come back. Go and read their history.
We are in a better position to get better deals as we are now like a lady with two or even three potential suitors. We place our demand before each of them and go along with the best. The problem is that we have very selfish and unpatriotic leaders. They are still behaving like local chiefs in pre-slavery Africa that sold their own people for mandane material things like mirrors, hats and umbrellas. Our present leaders make stupid deals for stupid personal gains, and then relocate to countries of these colonialists after betraying their people.

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Re: US To Withdraw From Niger As Security Pact Fails In Strategic Victory For Russia by sslcrypt: 9:07am On Apr 21
Krismas:
grin U cannot prejudge wot Russia will do without giving example. Mutual interest of both parties is better than the American style of enslavement of countries that welcome her. Russia built Nigeria’s Kanji Dam and Ajaokuta steel mill. Wot has America done for us? For over 10yrs in the Sahel, America and France did nothing about Boko haram, infact it seem they were even aiding the group, yet they had military pact with the Sahel countries? So, let them get lost. Give another country a try like Russia.

Another senseless fool, the oil companies that have employing your people for decades what's that? Sometimes you people talk without sense and end up sounding like stupid demons, every country have their strength. Just as julius beger of Germany have a deep rooted history in Nigeria construction. So also does the Lebanese and other foreign nations like France in terms of manufacturing of goods in form of nestle. Make una dy use head think before disgracing your family line

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Re: US To Withdraw From Niger As Security Pact Fails In Strategic Victory For Russia by Botragelad: 9:08am On Apr 21
wirinet:

Why get so emotional and personal? Does your loyalty lie more with the US than Nigeria?


AGOA is just like curing cerebral malaria with paracetamol. How can we export to the US or anywhere when we are an import dependent nation? How can we export when we are not able to first meet local demand? We are still falling for the same economic trap the colonialists set up for us. We produce natural resources and goods for them cheaply, and then import food and essentials from them expensively. Awo, Zik and Balewa fell for this same trap. They were exporting groundnut, cocoa and coal for the Europeans while importing rice, chocolate and groundnut oil from them.
Where is the industrial capacity, power, infrastructure and capital to start exporting to the US under AGOA? This same AGOA will impose stringent packaging and quality conditions that are very very difficult to meet.
Now tell me exactly how many people do you know that is benefiting from AGOA? Are you one of them?
Sudan ke? Which of the Sudans, south or the main Sudan? Sudan is your classical example of countries benefiting from the west? I hope you are being satirical.

So you mean African nations would be dumb investments if the US commit resources there like they did Europe and Israel? You also mean we were of no use or importance during the Cold War? If Africa was so useless, why are they now crying that Africa is considering looking east for their salvation?

This is the reason I like Trump to an extent, he doesn't bullshit that he likes Africa and want to help, while in reality hate Africa and Africans. He said his mind when he openly said he would prefer immigrants from Scandinavia than shithole countries (Africa).


Which continent benefited the US more in the past, Africa,Middle East or Europe? The wealth and prosperity enjoyed by the US, and Europe today was built on the resources and manpower of Africa.
In what manner are you personally reaping benefits from Russia, or what advantages do you foresee for yourself? Does this extend to any of your relatives? Ha!

The AGOA initiative was conceived to encourage growth driven by exports, potentially leading to an upsurge in production capabilities. For example, since the inception of AGOA, Kenya's apparel-focused AGOA sales have escalated from $55 million in 2001 to $603 million in 2022. This alone demonstrates that AGOA is indeed capable of augmenting export capacity without adversely affecting the local supply.

You've mentioned the difficulty of adhering to the rigorous standards set by the U.S. Nevertheless, AGOA encompasses initiatives aimed at capacity building, assisting African nations in fulfilling these criteria. This enactment has facilitated the establishment of industrial zones, such as those in Ethiopia, which have generated approximately 90,000 direct employments and substantially increased exports to the U.S.

Should you be unaware, nations like Ghana and Mauritius have experienced considerable growth in non-oil products entering the U.S. market under AGOA. These instances illustrate that AGOA offers concrete advantages for the economies of Africa.
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2023/11/africa-us-trade-agoa-deal-expires-2025/

Africa has derived significant benefits from the U.S. and Europe, not solely Sudan. Observe here.
https://africanarguments.org/2022/08/how-useful-is-aid-to-africa/

Please read and refrain from attributing to me these unfounded statements that lack factual basis. It's quite mortifying.

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Re: US To Withdraw From Niger As Security Pact Fails In Strategic Victory For Russia by sslcrypt: 9:10am On Apr 21
0m0luabi:
stay away from drug foolish boy

This is the best you can come up with because you are senseless and have nothing substantial or reasonable to say. This shows you have no value but rather sing the same chorus as other demons. I will advice you to get a job and a life, maybe just maybe your sense will come to life.

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Re: US To Withdraw From Niger As Security Pact Fails In Strategic Victory For Russia by justmondris: 9:10am On Apr 21
Botragelad:

Ooh. Russia is not going to 'enslave' you? 😂
In international relations, every country prioritizes its own interests first. This is true for the US, Russia, and all nations.

Similarly, if you consider Russia as an ally, they too would prioritize their national interests. It's a common practice in geopolitics for countries to engage in alliances that serve their strategic objectives.

The same West that traded Africans as slaves will never wish us well.

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Re: US To Withdraw From Niger As Security Pact Fails In Strategic Victory For Russia by Botragelad: 9:11am On Apr 21
justmondris:


The same West that traded Africans has slaves will never wish us well.
Africans were very much active in the slave trade too. Lol

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Re: US To Withdraw From Niger As Security Pact Fails In Strategic Victory For Russia by wwwtortoise(m): 9:21am On Apr 21
correctguy101:


So true...

Its just as if they hold some secret against African leaders to make these so-called leaders become so obedient and subservient.

If not...
How can we at our level in this pyramid be seeing these things and they couldn't? undecided
And even if it's brought to their attention, they'll always ignore such talk and doggedly continue on the chosen path of the ones they look up to?

E no add up...

The little I know about Qaddafi shows he was different, only he was forced into a confrontation he would never survive...

If it was the world before now, its understandable, but the leash is so loose in today's world (as I see it)

African leaders too lazy abeg. None wants to put in the required work, only want to maintain the status quo, after all them and those with them would live lavishly either way. No thoughts of glory at all..

Awón oni yéyé



I reckon with your submission. Mental laxity and lack of visionary leadership contributed hugely to the present state of the African society and political ecosystem.

The West understood early enough how the world works; it’s similar to the animal kingdom where the strong rules and the feeble follow. They took advantage and played this to their strengths. Made geographical advancement and strategically established colonies.
Then after setting the pace for development in their region, they came up with codes of conduct, principles and trading agreements via UN, UNICEF, ICC, . . . to secure their loot.

In the grand scheme of things the most powerful almost and always rule. Lately, there’s been a paradigm shift of power from military strength to trade wars and control of vital natural resources and infrastructure.

My concern is that the African leadership has no balls to upstage and take their destiny into their hands. They have no zeal to correct the mistakes of centuries past when they sold their countrymen for mirrors, gunpowder and tobacco. It’s a shame!

Back to the present. Africa needs young visionary leadership but sadly, democracy makes it difficult.

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Re: US To Withdraw From Niger As Security Pact Fails In Strategic Victory For Russia by ruggedtimi(m): 9:27am On Apr 21
0m0luabi:
like Mali and Burkina Faso are calling for Russia head after 2 year undecided
Ask central africa republic. If you go back to history, is a normal thing for dictators in africa that came into power through the backdoor without the support of the u.s government. They will move against the u.s once the dollars stop rolling in...and find another allie. They always fall back to the west.

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Re: US To Withdraw From Niger As Security Pact Fails In Strategic Victory For Russia by jojothaiv(m): 9:38am On Apr 21
wwwtortoise:
Handing over your leash to another master ain’t freedom.
The real flex is being in total control of your affairs without external interference. Sadly, no African government have had a taste of what sovereignty entails.
Re: US To Withdraw From Niger As Security Pact Fails In Strategic Victory For Russia by correctguy101(m): 9:45am On Apr 21
wwwtortoise:


I reckon with your submission. Mental laxity and lack of visionary leadership contributed hugely to the present state of the African society and political ecosystem.

The West understood early enough how the world works; it’s similar to the animal kingdom where the strong rules and the feeble follow. They took advantage and played this to their strengths. Made geographical advancement and strategically established colonies.
Then after setting the pace for development in their region, they came up with codes of conduct, principles and trading agreements via UN, UNICEF, ICC, . . . to secure their loot.

In the grand scheme of things the most powerful almost and always rule. Lately, there’s been a paradigm shift of power from military strength to trade wars and control of vital natural resources and infrastructure.

My concern is that the African leadership has no balls to upstage and take their destiny into their hands. They have no zeal to correct the mistakes of centuries past when they sold their countrymen for mirrors, gunpowder and tobacco. It’s a shame!

Back to the present. Africa needs young visionary leadership but sadly, democracy makes it difficult.


Bless you for this brother...

No necessarily young. But experienced, driven and a determined visionary with a thirst to see the nation he represents flourish...

And who says whatever we're practicing over here is democracy?

SMH
Re: US To Withdraw From Niger As Security Pact Fails In Strategic Victory For Russia by ruggedtimi(m): 9:46am On Apr 21
correctguy101:


So true...

Its just as if they hold some secret against African leaders to make these so-called leaders become so obedient and subservient.

If not...
How can we at our level in this pyramid be seeing these things and they couldn't? undecided
And even if it's brought to their attention, they'll always ignore such talk and doggedly continue on the chosen path of the ones they look up to?

E no add up...

The little I know about Qaddafi shows he was different, only he was forced into a confrontation he would never survive...

If it was the world before now, its understandable, but the leash is so loose in today's world (as I see it)

African leaders too lazy abeg. None wants to put in the required work, only want to maintain the status quo, after all them and those with them would live lavishly either way. No thoughts of glory at all..

Awón oni yéyé


the african leaders are afraid of oppositions and rebel groups. So this international powers promise them most importantly security and cash flow. Imagine an african president heavily guarded by russian bodyguards.
Re: US To Withdraw From Niger As Security Pact Fails In Strategic Victory For Russia by Safyqueen: 10:03am On Apr 21
Honoredeblazac:
This is a terrible news for northern Nigeria. The region will become very unsafe. This is the time Tinubu should request their presence in Nigeria. Give them a place in Yobe or Borno to replace what they had in Niger. It’s a very good opportunity for Nigeria

No , Tinubu will give them space in Lagos and your state if you are a Nigerian. If you don't know that US is a parasite, the northern Nigeria knows. Carry your US and their allies, northern Nigeria will even be safer after their exit from Niger Republic.

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Re: US To Withdraw From Niger As Security Pact Fails In Strategic Victory For Russia by Geekhard: 10:06am On Apr 21
As long as the Russians are in town, the Americans will not go home. They will leave Niger but expect them to establish a base in any of the following countries - Liberia, Ghana, Cote d' Ivories, Benin, Togo or even Nigeria in order to keep an eye on things and have boots on ground.
But definitely they are not leaving the West African Sub-Region.

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Re: US To Withdraw From Niger As Security Pact Fails In Strategic Victory For Russia by wwwtortoise(m): 10:12am On Apr 21
correctguy101:


Bless you for this brother...

No necessarily young. But experienced, driven and a determined visionary with a thirst to see the nation he represents flourish...

And who says whatever we're practicing over here is democracy?

SMH

There’s a tendency of high commitment levels to any given project/assigment if the person/team stands to see the project come to life.

By young (which is relatively subjective) I mean a leadership team less than 50years with vision and mental tact.

If we streamline this the Nigeria for instance, you will agree with me that the decadence will take decades of reengineering to get the country back on track.

I read on the newspaper long ago about a foreign firm that wanted to partner with Imo state government by investing billions of dollars into Adapalm for development and management of the palm plantation.
The projection was that the partnership alone has the potential to expand job creation from 800 to over 2,000 employees.

I think it was during Gov. Rochas’s 2nd tenure. They were turned down because the business proposal ROI was going to take longer and the present administration will be likely out of office by then.
Today, the plantation is laying in ruins.

https://dailytrust.com/hope-for-adapalm-imos-wasting-asset/
Re: US To Withdraw From Niger As Security Pact Fails In Strategic Victory For Russia by Honestey: 10:14am On Apr 21
ogbonti:
This is the reason Trump must win in November - under Biden - the US has lost so much respect globally especially with that chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan angry

And you want America to continue to command respect it forcibly gets globally right?
What has US done for humanity? Under US as the world most powerful nation Africa is reduced to nothing sort of mockery of human experience and kept really really poor. Mr US what do you stand to gain in America not having a competitor? Yes Niger may be shitting on its own head by chosing new master instead of total freedom but what choice do they have? America was ready to keep them under direct control after noticing that Niger had chased out France, doesn't that worries you for the lives of Africans now and in the future? Perhaps these happenings are too complex for you to digest.

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Re: US To Withdraw From Niger As Security Pact Fails In Strategic Victory For Russia by Krismas(m): 10:39am On Apr 21
sslcrypt:


Another senseless fool, the oil companies that have employing your people for decades what's that? Sometimes you people talk without sense and end up sounding like stupid demons, every country have their strength. Just as julius beger of Germany have a deep rooted history in Nigeria construction. So also does the Lebanese and other foreign nations like France in terms of manufacturing of goods in form of nestle. Make una dy use head think before disgracing your family line
grin Oil company ki u there. mumu. even as nigeria drove BP out in the mid-80 they still smuggled their way back thru Shell-BP collabo and then recently SPDC. Mumu cant see that all the foreign oil firms in nigeria na politics? u think they are helping u? mumu no go ki u

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Re: US To Withdraw From Niger As Security Pact Fails In Strategic Victory For Russia by tk003(m): 10:42am On Apr 21
wirinet:

Yes countries engage in alliances that serve their strategic objectives, but does it have to be a parasitic relationship? Sucking the life blood out of these poor African countries while giving little or nothing in return. That has been the nature of the relationship between African countries and Europe/US from the very beginning.

Why didn't the US employ the same doctrine of "strategic objectives" when dealing with European countries and Israel? The US spent billions in rebuilding Europe after the devastating war started by European themselves. They created military alliance and spent trillions defending Europe from themselves. They do the same with Israel, spending billions of dollars protecting Israel and helping their economy. But when it comes to Africans countries they remember the doctrine of strategic objectives.

One Zobo for you Sir.
Re: US To Withdraw From Niger As Security Pact Fails In Strategic Victory For Russia by ccrenda5540: 10:46am On Apr 21
US is the Genesis of terror*

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Re: US To Withdraw From Niger As Security Pact Fails In Strategic Victory For Russia by sslcrypt: 10:46am On Apr 21
Krismas:
grin Oil company ki u there. mumu. even as nigeria drove BP out in the mid-80 they still smuggled their way back thru Shell-BP collabo and then recently SPDC. Mumu cant see that all the foreign oil firms in nigeria na politics? u think they are helping u? mumu no go ki u

Poverty stricken dead beat send me your account let me help your miserable life.

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Re: US To Withdraw From Niger As Security Pact Fails In Strategic Victory For Russia by aywagze(m): 10:50am On Apr 21
I just hate that we share border with these crazy people country ..how is Russia better?! ..🤔

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Re: US To Withdraw From Niger As Security Pact Fails In Strategic Victory For Russia by Petrallen: 11:02am On Apr 21
Honestey:


And you want America to continue to command respect it forcibly gets globally right?
What has US done for humanity? Under US as the world most powerful nation Africa is reduced to nothing sort of mockery of human experience and kept really really poor. Mr US what do you stand to gain in America not having a competitor? Yes Niger may be shitting on its own head by chosing new master instead of total freedom but what choice do they have? America was ready to keep them under direct control after noticing that Niger had chased out France, doesn't that worries you for the lives of Africans now and in the future? Perhaps these happenings are too complex for you to digest.

Keep deceiving yourself. America is not in any way a threat to us. In fact, they have donated a huge amount of money to Nigeria over the years. Your leaders keep embezzling them. So what exactly do you want America? Overthrow our leaders? If they do that, you will still blame them. Now, that they folded their hands watching, observing - you still blame them. You people are just so impossible to please. Our political leaders have done far worse to us than the colonialists ever done. Hold your leaders responsible and stop blaming America for the failure of your leaders.
Besides, have you ever compared the status of a Nigerian employee working in American owned company with a Chinese owned company before? Stop blaming the whites for your mistakes. They are not stealing our resources. It is our leaders that are doing so

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Re: US To Withdraw From Niger As Security Pact Fails In Strategic Victory For Russia by NOwazobia: 11:06am On Apr 21
Davehasmadeit:
The US is not a country to have as allies. They will indirectly enslave you without u realizing it.
All countries are like that.


It's just a switch from one slave master to another.


The intetest of the master comes first be the interest of the slave.
Re: US To Withdraw From Niger As Security Pact Fails In Strategic Victory For Russia by NOwazobia: 11:08am On Apr 21
Musisco01:
The moment we realize that the USA does not represent anyone or help anyone but themselves is the day we will know peace even in this almost bankrupted country Nigeria
Peace cannot be achieved with humans, US or no US
Re: US To Withdraw From Niger As Security Pact Fails In Strategic Victory For Russia by NOwazobia: 11:10am On Apr 21
wwwtortoise:
Handing over your leash to another master ain’t freedom.
The real flex is being in total control of your affairs without external interference. Sadly, no African government have had a taste of what sovereignty entails.
Very correct 💯
Re: US To Withdraw From Niger As Security Pact Fails In Strategic Victory For Russia by infofta(m): 11:20am On Apr 21
The French and the US are leaving without a fight. Will Russia leave voluntarily if asked to leave without a fight.

We are our own problem.

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Re: US To Withdraw From Niger As Security Pact Fails In Strategic Victory For Russia by Krismas(m): 11:23am On Apr 21
sslcrypt:


Poverty stricken dead beat send me your account let me help your miserable life.
grin hegoat western slave. show me ur account balance to begin with cheesy
Re: US To Withdraw From Niger As Security Pact Fails In Strategic Victory For Russia by Rybnyk(m): 11:44am On Apr 21
Davehasmadeit:
The US is not a country to have as allies. They will indirectly enslave you without u realizing it.

And you think Russia won't? I laugh at people who think Russia is one "friendly" nation. They are no different from the US and other western countries. If the Russian govt can kill or jail political opponents in Russia,what makes you think they will just smile at any country that goes against their interests? Western and non-western powers are all the same. You can't go against them or their interests,even if your country is at a losing end. It's like choosing between two types of poisons. You have to be careful...

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Re: US To Withdraw From Niger As Security Pact Fails In Strategic Victory For Russia by CSTRR: 11:54am On Apr 21
The problem is that African leaders don't have an IQ to relate with western powers.

The CIA tried to bribe Lee kuan yew in the 60s.
He rejected it.

They then decided to work with him to achieve his national objectives in a win-win scenario for both Singapore and America.

Today, Singapore is developed, and is a close American ally.

America is the best ally a nation can get.
They practically developed Germany and South east Asia, including china by themselves.

But you need to be have a brilliant and selfless leader that can play at their level and get the best deal he can get for your country.

Russia is not a option. They don't have the wealth, technology or the governance to do any good.

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Re: US To Withdraw From Niger As Security Pact Fails In Strategic Victory For Russia by CSTRR: 11:59am On Apr 21
Imagine if Nigeria get a leader today that is both brilliant and incorruptible.

Enforce compliance with anti corruption laws and rule of law regardless of status in society.

Reduce bribery and corruption in public contracts which would ensure that US and western companies have equal shot at contracts along with their Chinese rivals in Nigeria.

Use Nigerian wealth for the good of the people and stop looting them.

Imagine the scale of investments that would flow in from America and Europe without even doing much.

That's what African countries should be doing, not pandering to Russia to cover their own corruption.

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Re: US To Withdraw From Niger As Security Pact Fails In Strategic Victory For Russia by CSTRR: 12:06pm On Apr 21
China for all their noise, started to develop under Deng Xioping.

Who is Deng Xioping?
He was a brilliant administrator who opened up china to western investments, after decades of closure to the world which started under Mao.

Western investments and companies flowed in , and china became rich.

That's the story of china. It became rich because of America.

But somewhere in West Africa, countries are closing themselves to the west.

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Re: US To Withdraw From Niger As Security Pact Fails In Strategic Victory For Russia by wirinet(m): 12:59pm On Apr 21
CSTRR:
China for all their noise, started to develop under Deng Xioping.

Who is Deng Xioping?
He was a brilliant administrator who opened up china to western investments, after decades of closure to the world which started under Mao.

Western investments and companies flowed in , and china became rich.

That's the story of china. It became rich because of America.

But somewhere in West Africa, countries are closing themselves to the west.
But China also closed itself to the west for centuries. When China opened up, it only restricted western trade and influence to a few port cities. China was at no time completely subjugated and overwhelmed by Western culture and influence.

The West had shown and still shows pure disdain and disregard for West Africa. Meanwhile we worship and adore them. We swallow all the insults and disdain with pride as long as they give us aid and Visa.

Please watch this interview by Harold Smith on why they handed power to the north through fraudulent elections and census. They prevent competent and patriotic leaders capable of developing the country from rising to power and promote mediocre and corrupt unpatriotic leaders, who bring their countries into ruin. This was the same situation all over west Africa.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gSbMescYwc?si=1nd1g5TCnsz8x8df
The seeds of that fraudulent election and census remains with us till today, and are factors that will never allow Nigeria rise above its current mediocre state.

I decided to post the full interview to reveal the plans of the British for Nigeria at independence.

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