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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Vischy: 12:45pm On Apr 21
I will never understand the hype around this Chilwell for one day.

Just a simple pass
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Sportsweb: 12:50pm On Apr 21
Pep Guardiola nearly died from Stroke

Then Nicolas Jackson step up and prevented it from happening.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/384945710807152?mibextid=AQBXeECoIFSgMqhe
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 1:05pm On Apr 21
BlueRayDick:


airmark just dey do agidi dey post number of big misses per game up and down grin

Everybody knows if Chelsea fix their defensive issues they will be in a better position on the league table than where they presently are.

Like Griffon rightly puts it, outscoring ur oppnent is a fantasy in modern football that is not practicable.

I checked Chlesea's last 10 games on Sky sports and I discovered Chelsea has conceded in 9 out of those 10(Bar the 6-0 Everton Trashing). Guess what? Chelsea only failed to score in 2 out of those 10 matches i.e vs Loserpool & Man city.

How will anybody see this and claim the attack is the culprit for Chelsea's woes when the defence can't keep opponents from scoring?

The only way to win a match is to outscore your opponent. You cannot out-cleansheet an opponent - if both teams keep a cleansheet, it's called a draw.

West Ham have conceded 6 goals more than Chelsea this season and are higher in the log with -6 goal difference.

Newcastle that has conceded the same 52 goals are in 6th place. Villa and Spurs that have conceded just 3 goals less than Chelsea are fighting for UCL positions.

When you look at the trends, except for a TWO outliers like West Ham and Manyoo, 6 out of the 8 teams above Chelsea have outscored Chelsea this season, with half of then conceding around the same number of goals we've conceded.

Meanwhile, nobody from 10th place down has scored up to us, with a a couple of teams having actually conceded less than Chelsea this season.

Without resorting to absolutist and reductive arguments like attack good, defence bad, it is clear to me that Chelsea’s problems stem not from an inability to lock up shop, but an inability to kill off games..which are slightly overlapping but entirely different concepts.

That's why I focus very heavily on Sheffield in my analysis. A team like Chelsea should be expecting to outscore rhe team with the worst defensive record in EPL history. Even if they score 1, they should be loaded with 2 more in response.

At one point yesterday, Burnley had the same 2-1 scoreline that we held against Sheffield. The difference is, instead of wasting attacks or not even attacking at all (Nicolas Jackson didn't even bother to shoot on or off target that day), Burnley went and pumped them 2 more.

If the 19th placed team in the league can beat Sheffield 9-1(home and away) this season, then how cam we be discussing defending against such a team? That's football anathema.

Thank God we all saw what Jackson did yesterday. Tomorrow now, someone will start spinning a narrative that City defence locked up shop for a 1-0 win, instead of tbe truth that if Jackson wasn't such a disgraceful attacker, we might have won that match 3-1

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 1:07pm On Apr 21
Sportsweb:
Pep Guardiola nearly died from Stroke

Then Nicolas Jackson step up and prevented it from happening.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/384945710807152?mibextid=AQBXeECoIFSgMqhe

With time you Chelsea fans will love Nicolas Jackson

The pressure is too much on him for now
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Emaprince: 1:17pm On Apr 21
swiz123:
While Silva was crying, Mmadueke was laughing with Grealish 30 seconds after full time whistle.

We are doomed.
Thats what Im complaining about.

They assembled a team of boys that think winning trophies is strange. No ambition. They just play for fun and money...then go clubbing and post pics on IG.

Any player that is not bothered when his team loses is a stupid player and doesnt deserve to be in such team. Sadly, these are what we have in chelsea now.

Silva is a born winner. He have tested trophies and knows the feelings...so it pains when he loses.

Madueke? Wetin concern that one with trophies.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Griffon(m): 1:21pm On Apr 21
Ibime:


As a footballer, you will understand that going ahead in a match, and especially two goals ahead gives you control and deflates the opposition spirit

When you are two goals ahead, it becomes about game management and time management. Your defence would just be passing ball amongst themselves while opposition will be disheartened

But if you keep missing chances, opposition ginger will be growing that today is their day and they are fated to win

So our missing of chances also affects defence.

Both areas need improvement, but our attack is not making games comfortable for our weak defence

First and foremost, I’m not saying we don’t need to fix the attack as much I would have loved to see changes at the back, all I’m saying is that the attack are doing relatively better, despite their shambolic performances.

Are they letting the defence down? This season we have taken the lead 25 times and have conceded an equalizer on 12 instances, translating into a lead-defending rate of 52% (for an opponents' equalizing rate of 48%). In the same vein, our defense have conceded 22 goals which gave the lead to the opposition - 22!

For the proponents of outscore your opponent theory, of the 22 times that Chelsea's opponents have taken the lead, we have managed to score an equalizer on 12 instances, translating into an equalizing rate of 55%, which is pretty higher than the league’s average value of 44%.

Our lead-defending rate of 52%, is lower than the league’s average value of 56% this season. A far cry by all standards.

Numbers don’t lie. As much as our attack have been profligate, the defense have shown over and over again that it CANNOT protect a lead. I’m not even talking about spurning chances, just to concede latter, I’m talking about taking the lead and ending up throwing it away.

No matter how you want to see it, the defense is contributing nothing in our run. Someone is saying that goals are everything in football, but I just have to ask him what’s the essence of those goals/leads when they can’t be protected? Football requires a high level of pragmatism, not fantasies. This isn’t Ipukulubiye Dolphins vs Terrible Winners, this isn’t fantasy football.

For a team that has a healthy overall scoring rate of 84% and an alarming conceding rate of 81%, you need no soothsayer to point to you where the problem majorly exists.

Game management? How many times have we tried and failed with it? Our recent game against man utd, is a good case study.

Went 2 goals up within 15minutes, but ended up chasing an equalizer and an eventual late winner.

Bin that entire backline, get a proper CF and we are clear. EOD.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Sportsweb: 1:22pm On Apr 21
andrewbaba44:


With time you Chelsea fans will love Nicolas Jackson

The pressure is too much on him for now
Don't you will grow on Romeu Oriol..he is the perfect heir to Busquet.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 1:29pm On Apr 21
Sportsweb:
Don't you will grow on Romeu Oriol..he is the perfect heir to Busquet.

He is in his 30s ,sane can’t be said about a young energetic player like Jackson
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 1:39pm On Apr 21
nihilistjnr:


The only way to win a match is to outscore your opponent. You cannot out-cleansheet an opponent - if both teams keep a cleansheet, it's called a draw.

West Ham have conceded 6 goals more than Chelsea this season and are higher in the log with -6 goal difference.

Newcastle that has conceded the same 52 goals are in 6th place. Villa and Spurs that have conceded just 3 goals less than Chelsea are fighting for UCL positions.

When you look at the trends, except for a TWO outliers like West Ham and Manyoo, 6 out of the 8 teams above Chelsea have outscored Chelsea this season, with half of then conceding around the same number of goals we've conceded.

Meanwhile, nobody from 10th place down has scored up to us, with a a couple of teams having actually conceded less than Chelsea this season.

Without resorting to absolutist and reductive arguments like attack good, defence bad, it is clear to me that Chelsea’s problems stem not from an inability to lock up shop, but an inability to kill off games..which are slightly overlapping but entirely different concepts.

That's why I focus very heavily on Sheffield in my analysis. A team like Chelsea should be expecting to outscore rhe team with the worst defensive record in EPL history. Even if they score 1, they should be loaded with 2 more in response.

At one point yesterday, Burnley had the same 2-1 scoreline that we held against Sheffield. The difference is, instead of wasting attacks or not even attacking at all (Nicolas Jackson didn't even bother to shoot on or off target that day), Burnley went and pumped them 2 more.

If the 19th placed team in the league can beat Sheffield 9-1(home and away) this season, then how cam we be discussing defending against such a team? That's football anathema.

Thank God we all saw what Jackson did yesterday. Tomorrow now, someone will start spinning a narrative that City defence locked up shop for a 1-0 win, instead of tbe truth that if Jackson wasn't such a disgraceful attacker, we might have won that match 3-1

Sorry your dog died. Or sth like that
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 1:51pm On Apr 21
nihilistjnr:


The only way to win a match is to outscore your opponent. You cannot out-cleansheet an opponent - if both teams keep a cleansheet, it's called a draw.

West Ham have conceded 6 goals more than Chelsea this season and are higher in the log with -6 goal difference.

Newcastle that has conceded the same 52 goals are in 6th place. Villa and Spurs that have conceded just 3 goals less than Chelsea are fighting for UCL positions.

When you look at the trends, except for a TWO outliers like West Ham and Manyoo, 6 out of the 8 teams above Chelsea have outscored Chelsea this season, with half of then conceding around the same number of goals we've conceded.

Meanwhile, nobody from 10th place down has scored up to us, with a a couple of teams having actually conceded less than Chelsea this season.

Without resorting to absolutist and reductive arguments like attack good, defence bad, it is clear to me that Chelsea’s problems stem not from an inability to lock up shop, but an inability to kill off games..which are slightly overlapping but entirely different concepts.

That's why I focus very heavily on Sheffield in my analysis. A team like Chelsea should be expecting to outscore rhe team with the worst defensive record in EPL history. Even if they score 1, they should be loaded with 2 more in response.

At one point yesterday, Burnley had the same 2-1 scoreline that we held against Sheffield. The difference is, instead of wasting attacks or not even attacking at all (Nicolas Jackson didn't even bother to shoot on or off target that day), Burnley went and pumped them 2 more.

If the 19th placed team in the league can beat Sheffield 9-1(home and away) this season, then how cam we be discussing defending against such a team? That's football anathema.

Thank God we all saw what Jackson did yesterday. Tomorrow now, someone will start spinning a narrative that City defence locked up shop for a 1-0 win, instead of tbe truth that if Jackson wasn't such a disgraceful attacker, we might have won that match 3-1

Baba . Ur attack still manages to score over 1.5 goals almost every match , but ur defence ship in goals almost every game.

Ur attack as bad as it is scored 2 goals against Arsenal that has the best defense in the league . That shows ur attack is not as bad as u want to assume . But guess what ? Ur defense still allowed arsenal score score 2 goals .

Anyways I believe both ur attack and defense should be fixed sha for u to compete with other top teams

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 1:54pm On Apr 21
BlueRayDick:


Baba . Ur attack still manages to score over 1.5 goals almost every match , but ur defence ship in goals almost every game.

Ur attack as bad as it is scored 2 goals against Arsenal that has the best defense in the league . That shows ur attack is not as bad as u want to assume . But guess what ? Ur defense still allowed arsenal score score 2 goals .

Anyways I believe both ur attack and defense should be fixed sha for u to compete with other top teams

Newcastle have conceded the exact same number of league goals as Chelsea this season.

What's your take on why they are not fighting relegation?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by AdisaOwala: 2:03pm On Apr 21
BlueRayDick:


Baba . Ur attack still manages to score over 1.5 goals almost every match , but ur defence ship in goals almost every game.

Ur attack as bad as it is scored 2 goals against Arsenal that has the best defense in the league . That shows ur attack is not as bad as u want to assume . But guess what ? Ur defense still allowed arsenal score score 2 goals .



Anyways I believe both ur attack and defense should be fixed sha for u to compete with other top teams

Which attack is the best in the league?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Vischy: 2:05pm On Apr 21
Whizlight:
Pochettino is a very wicked man and I hope he gets sacked soon

Pochettino is punishing Chelsea for denying him epl title at Tottenham
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by KingAzubuike(f): 2:10pm On Apr 21
It's better we kuku lost yesterday than to get to the final and lose against Varchester utd. Na that one go pain pass.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 2:14pm On Apr 21
KingAzubuike:
It's better we kuku lost yesterday than to get to the final and lose against Varchester utd. Na that one go pain pass.

You always have a chance. You shouldn’t have won 4-3 at the Bridge but you won. Same thing may happen in the FA cup final. It probably won’t happen tho.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 2:15pm On Apr 21
See Jordan Pickford celebrating a save with all of his being even though the ball is still in play.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 2:20pm On Apr 21
Leyqute:


Sorry your dog died. Or sth like that

Nice one Leyqute. Nice one.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by forgiveness: 2:25pm On Apr 21
swiz123:


Having an injury prone defenders is the same as having a very bad defense. We need to clear out James, Fofana, Chillwell and obviously Silva.

Just this alone makes defense a major issue to address.

We should clear out James and bring who? grin

How are you sure the one coming will not have injury issues?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Thazard(m): 2:32pm On Apr 21
forgiveness:


We should clear out James and bring who? grin

How are you sure the one coming will not have injury issues?
That guy is very funny. Clear out James? If James comes back and stay fit,even Gusto is going back to the bench. Jeez, how many right back fit bench james. By the way our medical team are trash.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 2:51pm On Apr 21
swiz123:


Having an injury prone defenders is the same as having a very bad defense. We need to clear out James, Fofana, Chillwell and obviously Silva.

Just this alone makes defense a major issue to address.
Clear out James and Fofana as how? 😂😂😂😂
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by andrewbaba44: 3:03pm On Apr 21
Whizlight:
Pochettino is a very wicked man and I hope he gets sacked soon

You are the wicked person here who wants another man to get sacked ,don’t you know he has family to take care of ?

After all he has done for Chelsea ,you want him sacked ?

You better respect yourself there

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by forgiveness: 3:19pm On Apr 21
Thazard:
That guy is very funny. Clear out James? If James comes back and stay fit,even Gusto is going back to the bench. Jeez, how many right back fit bench james. By the way our medical team are trash.

I wonder ooo. Make we clear best right back in the world. No way.

The medical team is the problem.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 3:21pm On Apr 21
BlueRayDick:


airmark just dey do agidi dey post number of big misses per game up and down grin

Everybody knows if Chelsea fix their defensive issues they will be in a better position on the league table than where they presently are.

Like Griffon rightly puts it, outscoring ur oppnent is a fantasy in modern football that is not practicable.

I checked Chlesea's last 10 games on Sky sports and I discovered Chelsea has conceded in 9 out of those 10(Bar the 6-0 Everton Trashing). Guess what? Chelsea only failed to score in 2 out of those 10 matches i.e vs Loserpool & Man city.

How will anybody see this and claim the attack is the culprit for Chelsea's woes when the defence can't keep opponents from scoring?

I won't lampoon your ignorance, since you are not a Chelsea fan and obviously you don't watch our matches regularly.

Even the best defence can still concede and that's exactly one of the reasons your team is out of Ucl as from the other end, you failed to score a goal. Let that sink in.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by fredoooooo: 3:25pm On Apr 21
Premier league is corrupt ,Refrees should be allowed to deal with after every game...
Everton vs forest Clear penalties and refree said no the useless blind men with the no vision VAR are the worst of it all ..
Same way they deny us a clear penalty yesterday.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by kingBolton: 3:25pm On Apr 21
I will keep preaching the Olise gospel, Olise RWF and Palmer CAM...
Joe Shields make this happen

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by forgiveness: 3:27pm On Apr 21
Bring Rafael Leão and Martinez (if Osimhen no come).

Dybala should be added. Sell Sterling and one other player.

In agreement with the above, Oliseh. Chaiiiiii! The team go hot.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 3:29pm On Apr 21
nihilistjnr:


The only way to win a match is to outscore your opponent. You cannot out-cleansheet an opponent - if both teams keep a cleansheet, it's called a draw.

West Ham have conceded 6 goals more than Chelsea this season and are higher in the log with -6 goal difference.

Newcastle that has conceded the same 52 goals are in 6th place. Villa and Spurs that have conceded just 3 goals less than Chelsea are fighting for UCL positions.

When you look at the trends, except for a TWO outliers like West Ham and Manyoo, 6 out of the 8 teams above Chelsea have outscored Chelsea this season, with half of then conceding around the same number of goals we've conceded.

Meanwhile, nobody from 10th place down has scored up to us, with a a couple of teams having actually conceded less than Chelsea this season.

Without resorting to absolutist and reductive arguments like attack good, defence bad, it is clear to me that Chelsea’s problems stem not from an inability to lock up shop, but an inability to kill off games..which are slightly overlapping but entirely different concepts.

That's why I focus very heavily on Sheffield in my analysis. A team like Chelsea should be expecting to outscore rhe team with the worst defensive record in EPL history. Even if they score 1, they should be loaded with 2 more in response.

At one point yesterday, Burnley had the same 2-1 scoreline that we held against Sheffield. The difference is, instead of wasting attacks or not even attacking at all (Nicolas Jackson didn't even bother to shoot on or off target that day), Burnley went and pumped them 2 more.

If the 19th placed team in the league can beat Sheffield 9-1(home and away) this season, then how cam we be discussing defending against such a team? That's football anathema.

Thank God we all saw what Jackson did yesterday. Tomorrow now, someone will start spinning a narrative that City defence locked up shop for a 1-0 win, instead of tbe truth that if Jackson wasn't such a disgraceful attacker, we might have won that match 3-1

All these Blueraydick, Timbros, Lordfalcao don't watch our matches and obviously they have below average football knowledge.

Meanwhile, the only positive from this season is that we created a lot of big chances in matches. We just need to get good finishers upfront for next season.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 4:21pm On Apr 21
Ollie Watkins runs in a funny way 😀
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 4:53pm On Apr 21
airmark:


All these Blueraydick, Timbros, Lordfalcao don't watch our matches and obviously they have below average football knowledge.

Meanwhile, the only positive from this season is that we created a lot of big chances in matches. We just need to get good finishers upfront for next season.




Interestingly, Aston Villa have conceded 50 goals and are 4th.

Meanwhile Chelsea with 52 goals conceded are 9th.

That 2 goal difference is the reason why, if you let some niggas tell it.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Whizlight(m): 5:20pm On Apr 21
andrewbaba44:


You are the wicked person here who wants another man to get sacked ,don’t you know he has family to take care of ?

After all he has done for Chelsea ,you want him sacked ?

You better respect yourself there

So he should keep punishing us week in week out
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by drisham(m): 5:23pm On Apr 21
Be like man u sef get

Attack Vs defence problem
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueMann: 5:25pm On Apr 21
Andrey Santos finally lost a game as a starter for Strasbourg, who fell 1-0 to Lille courtesy of a huge defensive error. Santos was one of their best performers - joint highest rated on sofascore.

43/51 passes
4 tackles
2× dribbled past
7/12 ground duels won (most)
1/2 aerial duels won
2 key passes (most).
1 big chance created

Another solid performance for our boy. Strasbourg themselves have been in really good form of late, and that was shown here by the fact that they only lost due to a poor error at the back, limited Lille to just six shots and created more chances.

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