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Re: Ben Murray-Bruce Talks About The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Highway by Nauttyprof(m): 2:59pm On May 05
rhanoden:
Most people speaking out in support of such waste at a time when the Country is grappling with it highest debt and living crisis are poorly informed.

If you don't understand economics properly, opportunity cost, environmental impact, cost-benefit analysis, then there is no point deceiving the public on a subject you don't know. Ben Bruce should be asked to keep quiet and listen to the experts.

He should be asked to keep quiet because he lacks the knowledge and you know better, right?

You should rather keep quiet. The country needs to make progress and bring about economic values to states or regions. We should stop acting like we mean well when we have our biases.

The only issue I have is government being trusted to use funds wisely and not siphon part of it but in all, we need to make infrastructural progress than always looking for every means to attack the government.

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Re: Ben Murray-Bruce Talks About The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Highway by poiZon: 3:00pm On May 05
seunmsg:
Peter Obi and his disgruntled obidient elements can stick to the old route 🤣🤣🤣
Am not against this project, but my question is, where will this road pass thru from AKWAIBOM EXIST to Cross river state?
Why r they focusing the project from Lagos?
Why not segment it in either 5 different prongs so we know they mean business...
Re: Ben Murray-Bruce Talks About The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Highway by Litmus: 3:03pm On May 05
Human Beings and cliches, clarion calls and sound bites! The new one for some people that we believe are all Nigerians, is "Unfinished Roads" as a greater priority than a new road. Never mind that what constitute developmental Priority in any nation is subjective and difficult to determine especially in developing nations. A convincing enough argument could be made for national security as Nigeria's most pressing priority. Even one that posit most projects in Nigeria should be suspended and investment ploughed into the Military and paramilitary architecture, including policing. I bet you the Priority champions would not like this. Their common sense and pragmatism would desert them.

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Re: Ben Murray-Bruce Talks About The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Highway by Shattuck(m): 3:06pm On May 05
CommonSense1967:


Was there no alternative route when Buhari decided to build the 2nd Niger Bridge? Did you people complain about wasting money when you have other alternatives?
I am not from the south east if that's your thought, I am from the south south, this is very easy for folks to understand but some of you criticize dissenting opinion for political and ethnic reasons rather than logic, Nigeria has been borrowing to keep afloat since tinubu came on board, spending over one billion dollars of borrowed funds on an highway in the very first year of your presidency in the midst of economic turmoil is not the way to go, I can't criticize it too hard because it is development nonetheless, but the way you guys turn it into ethnic and political battle does not even give room for constructive criticism of the govt this was the same card you played during the buhari's regime, do you know that 4billion dollars is the amount they would spend to construct one km of road, while according to data from the world bank the same one km of road should cost less than 250 million naira, even factoring inflation 4b per km is on the high side but we can't talk about this otherwise I would be accused of being igbo, ipob, obedient etc.

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Re: Ben Murray-Bruce Talks About The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Highway by TheBillyonaire: 3:07pm On May 05
CommonSense1967:


Exactly.

I'm really surprised that some are incapable of seeing the potential of this road. Instead of going against it, they should be telling govt that it must be completed within a reasonable amount of time.

That is a fact, we must do all it takes to make sure it is completed before Tinubu leaves office, otherwise, wahala dey.
Re: Ben Murray-Bruce Talks About The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Highway by Callosobruchus: 3:07pm On May 05
Yet Pitobi and 'im followers no like di development.How dem go like am when na only when bad tin happen for Naija dem di jubilate.Imagine the mindset.Tueh!

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Re: Ben Murray-Bruce Talks About The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Highway by Callosobruchus: 3:12pm On May 05
rhanoden:
Most people speaking out in support of such waste at a time when the Country is grappling with it highest debt and living crisis are poorly informed.

If you don't understand economics properly, opportunity cost, environmental impact, cost-benefit analysis, then there is no point deceiving the public on a subject you don't know. Ben Bruce should be asked to keep quiet and listen to the experts.
I wish Nairaland has the thumb down option on YouTube or the anger emoji on Facebook, I'd have used it on this your yeye comment right now.Enemies of progress everywhere.

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Re: Ben Murray-Bruce Talks About The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Highway by Rebelutionary: 3:12pm On May 05
rhanoden:
Most people speaking out in support of such waste at a time when the Country is grappling with it highest debt and living crisis are poorly informed.

If you don't understand economics properly, opportunity cost, environmental impact, cost-benefit analysis, then there is no point deceiving the public on a subject you don't know. Ben Bruce should be asked to keep quiet and listen to the experts.
Lol the kind of comments one reads on Nairaland ehn....so because he didn't say what you want to hear...then he should keep quiet and listen to you? Or who? Abegii I like the fact that Umahi has this "I don't care towards you folks", talk from now till tomorrow that highway will be done and dusted and the country will reap the benefits of this project!

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Re: Ben Murray-Bruce Talks About The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Highway by bentenny(m): 3:13pm On May 05
From PDP governors to their stalwarts to their now quietened minions!
PDP now now the feeder team of APC 😮😮
PDP has indeed been compromised by APC!
Atiku is now on his own!
Still surprised that Reno hasn't attacked Atiku condemnation of the lagos-calabar coastal road!
Re: Ben Murray-Bruce Talks About The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Highway by muykem: 3:13pm On May 05
rhanoden:
Most people speaking out in support of such waste at a time when the Country is grappling with it highest debt and living crisis are poorly informed.

If you don't understand economics properly, opportunity cost, environmental impact, cost-benefit analysis, then there is no point deceiving the public on a subject you don't know. Ben Bruce should be asked to keep quiet and listen to the experts.
What a myopic comment so Peter Obi is more expert than Ben Bruce in economy.

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Re: Ben Murray-Bruce Talks About The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Highway by mohims(m): 3:17pm On May 05
But Mr Pandora aka Gbajue and his mumu Obidients think otherwise.
He prefers to build a brewery instead of building roads

Re: Ben Murray-Bruce Talks About The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Highway by Okwyjesus(m): 3:21pm On May 05
naptu2:
Ben Murray-BruceTalks About the Lagos-Calabar Highway.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIA01B-8vqU?si=PunEAxf0y1Q6nR10




Nigeria is not in a state to embark on this project for now.

But the project is no doubt a good one. And that's honest trust.

I like the fact that the project connected to Onitsha but the timing is
Re: Ben Murray-Bruce Talks About The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Highway by PepeXKermit: 3:23pm On May 05
overall90:
Time shall tell who is right or wrong

The road is a good thing, i support the idea but not its implementation at this time. Look at countries that engage in mega projects especially Saudi and UAE, you will see that they are doing it because the want to build upon preexisiting development. The one wey you get, you never maintain am, no be say i too need am o, no, but you decide to go build another one for what exactly? Many inner city roads are deplorable, that amount they want to use will fix nigerias energy crisis, but no, we say na high way important pass. My question to you, given the amount they are currently investing into this project, what would you prefer they used it for, electricity, revive our steel industry, fix all the roads in Nigeria, or build that coastal highway?
Re: Ben Murray-Bruce Talks About The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Highway by CommonSense1967: 3:24pm On May 05
Shattuck:
I am not from the south east if that's your thought, I am from the south south, this is very easy for folks to understand but some of you criticize dissenting opinion for political and ethnic reasons rather than logic, Nigeria has been borrowing to keep afloat since tinubu came on board, spending over one billion dollars of borrowed funds on an highway in the very first year of your presidency in the midst of economic turmoil is not the way to go, I can't criticize it too hard because it is development nonetheless, but the way you guys turn it into ethnic and political battle does not even give room for constructive criticism of the govt this was the same card you played during the buhari's regime, do you know that 4billion dollars is the amount they would spend to construct one km of road, while according to data from the world bank the same one km of road should cost less than 250 million naira, even factoring inflation 4b per km is on the high side but we can't talk about this otherwise I would be accused of being igbo, ipob, obedient etc.

If you borrow money to build capital projects, that's perfectly ok.

Do you know that Nigeria was borrowing money to pay salaries towards the end of the Jonathan administration? Borrowing to pay salaries? Yes, they did. The finance minister at that time said clearly.

There is no logic in your argument. I live in the US and I can tell you that the US govt is the highest debtor on the face of the planet, I used to work for the US federal govt. They will always borrow money to build capital projects because they know that those capital projects such as roads, schools, and the like will bring more development and create an enabling business environment for businesses to thrive. When businesses thrive, the govt will get more taxes from those businesses, and employed people will also pay taxes. That's how you develop.
Nigeria has thousands of coastal lines that are wasting away right now. How many people do you know that are even thinking of investing along the coastline in other states besides Lagos? I don't know a single person.
With this road, many other areas will become economically viable not just Lagos, people will build hotels and other businesses along the coast in Ondo, Edo, Delta, Ogun, rivers, and others.
This is what you call out-of-the-box innovative thinking. Individuals borrow money to start businesses all over the world, govt also borrow money to build capital projects not to pay salaries.

The vast majority of those against this project are from the SE, so don't try to blame others for what is very obvious.
It also begs the obvious question - why didn't they bring up such objections when Buhari was building the 2nd Niger bridge? Was Nigeria not broke, was Nigeria not borrowing money, didn't we have many other roads in Nigeria that needed attention at that time?
To make it worse, the leader of these blind hypocrites is Obi. Now, this is a man who invested 30 MILLION DOLLARS into HERO BEER in Anambra while the state was facing many crucial issues such as erosion, bad roads, bad schools, doctors on strike for 13 months, and many more issues, yet he thought it was ok to invest that kind of money into a brewery.


vanguardngr. com/2015/05/govt-borrows-n473bn-to-meet-up-with-recurrent-expenditure-says-okonjo-iweala/

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Re: Ben Murray-Bruce Talks About The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Highway by richie240: 3:31pm On May 05
I can bety left ballz dt u are igbo. I dare you to tell me i'm wrong.

Very easy to identify.
cool
rhanoden:
Most people speaking out in support of such waste at a time when the Country is grappling with it highest debt and living crisis are poorly informed.

If you don't understand economics properly, opportunity cost, environmental impact, cost-benefit analysis, then there is no point deceiving the public on a subject you don't know. Bruce should be asked to keep quiet and listen to the experts.
Re: Ben Murray-Bruce Talks About The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Highway by 7upnigeria: 3:44pm On May 05
rhanoden:
Most people speaking out in support of such waste at a time when the Country is grappling with it highest debt and living crisis are poorly informed.

If you don't understand economics properly, opportunity cost, environmental impact, cost-benefit analysis, then there is no point deceiving the public on a subject you don't know. Bruce should be asked to keep quiet and listen to the experts.


So good to know we have an intellectual who knows more than the President, David umahi, Ben murray-bruce, all south south governors on this forum. When will you run for president of Nigeria?

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Re: Ben Murray-Bruce Talks About The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Highway by 7upnigeria: 3:50pm On May 05
CommonSense1967:


If you borrow money to build capital projects, that's perfectly ok.

Do you know that Nigeria was borrowing money to pay salaries towards the end of the Jonathan administration? Borrowing to pay salaries? Yes, they did. The finance minister at that time said clearly.

There is no logic in your argument. I live in the US and I can tell you that the US govt is the highest debtor on the face of the planet, I used to work for the US federal govt. They will always borrow money to build capital projects because they know that those capital projects such as roads, schools, and the like will bring more development and create an enabling business environment for businesses to thrive. When businesses thrive, the govt will get more taxes from those businesses, and employed people will also pay taxes. That's how you develop.
Nigeria has thousands of coastal lines that are wasting away right now. How many people do you know that are even thinking of investing along the coastline in other states besides Lagos? I don't know a single person.
With this road, many other areas will become economically viable not just Lagos, people will build hotels and other businesses along the coast in Ond, Ogun, rivers, and others.
This is what you call out-of-the-box innovative thinking. Individuals borrow money to start businesses all over the world, govt also borrow money to build capital projects not to pay salaries.

The vast majority of those against this project are from the SE, so don't try to blame others for what is very obvious.
It also begs the obvious question - why didn't they bring up such objections when Buhari was building the 2nd Niger bridge? Was Nigeria not broke, was Nigeria not borrowing money, didn't we have many other roads in Nigeria that needed attention at that time?
To make it worse, the leader of these blind hypocrites is Obi. Now, this is a man who invested 30 MILLION DOLLARS into HERO BEER in Anambra while the state was facing many crucial issues such as erosion, bad roads, bad schools, doctors on strike for 13 months, and many more issues, yet he thought it was ok to invest that kind of money into a brewery.



LEGENDARY COMMENT.

I think this is Mr. Ben Murray-Bruce himself. The date of birth is giving you out.

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Re: Ben Murray-Bruce Talks About The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Highway by Global2000: 3:53pm On May 05
This guy no get common sense wey in dey always preach.
Re: Ben Murray-Bruce Talks About The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Highway by 7upnigeria: 3:54pm On May 05
Nightwolf1:



The common sense crooner is now senseless.

We are saying that the existing roads leading from Cross River State to Lagos State and the numerous bad roads across the country should be fixed.
The coastal highway shouldn't be a problem for now.


People are dying on these bad roads yet the govt priority is a coastal highway that we all know wouldn't be completed in 20yrs to come.

How is that a bad idea if I may ask Ben?

In a bid to support criminality they start sounding like uneducated people.

If this coastal highway is not all about criminality, they should equally award instant repairs for all the bad roads in the country and release a whooping 1 trillion naira to start up immediate work on them.


Fooooooool, who told you the roads are not getting fixed?

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Re: Ben Murray-Bruce Talks About The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Highway by CommonSense1967: 3:56pm On May 05
7upnigeria:



LEGENDARY COMMENT.

I think this is Mr. Ben Murray-Bruce himself. The date of birth is giving you out.

I'm not Mr Bruce oh and the date is not about the date of birth. It has other deeper meanings.

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Re: Ben Murray-Bruce Talks About The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Highway by Shattuck(m): 3:58pm On May 05
CommonSense1967:


If you borrow money to build capital projects, that's perfectly ok.

Do you know that Nigeria was borrowing money to pay salaries towards the end of the Jonathan administration? Borrowing to pay salaries? Yes, they did. The finance minister at that time said clearly.

There is no logic in your argument. I live in the US and I can tell you that the US govt is the highest debtor on the face of the planet, I used to work for the US federal govt. They will always borrow money to build capital projects because they know that those capital projects such as roads, schools, and the like will bring more development and create an enabling business environment for businesses to thrive. When businesses thrive, the govt will get more taxes from those businesses, and employed people will also pay taxes. That's how you develop.
Nigeria has thousands of coastal lines that are wasting away right now. How many people do you know that are even thinking of investing along the coastline in other states besides Lagos? I don't know a single person.
With this road, many other areas will become economically viable not just Lagos, people will build hotels and other businesses along the coast in Ond, Ogun, rivers, and others.
This is what you call out-of-the-box innovative thinking. Individuals borrow money to start businesses all over the world, govt also borrow money to build capital projects not to pay salaries.

The vast majority of those against this project are from the SE, so don't try to blame others for what is very obvious.
It also begs the obvious question - why didn't they bring up such objections when Buhari was building the 2nd Niger bridge? Was Nigeria not broke, was Nigeria not borrowing money, didn't we have many other roads in Nigeria that needed attention at that time?
To make it worse, the leader of these blind hypocrites is Obi. Now, this is a man who invested 30 MILLION DOLLARS into HERO BEER in Anambra while the state was facing many crucial issues such as erosion, bad roads, bad schools, doctors on strike for 13 months, and many more issues, yet he thought it was ok to invest that kind of money into a brewery.


vanguardngr. com/2015/05/govt-borrows-n473bn-to-meet-up-with-recurrent-expenditure-says-okonjo-iweala/
the US is more economically viable thus comparing western nations borrowing and Nigeria's borrowing isn't the same, I am not totally against the building of the highway my concerns are basically the cost and timing, by the way building a beer factory is even more economically viable than the coastal highway, from the local farmers who supply some of the brewing ingredients to the production of tons of the product, to the packaging, transportation and distribution and the wholesale and retail sellers a beer factory provides more economic insentive, in the end governance is largely based on perspective if tinubu is sure that the best way to spend over a billion dollar at the moment is to build an highway at an overbloated cost then it's ok.

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Re: Ben Murray-Bruce Talks About The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Highway by NEIGHBOUR(m): 4:00pm On May 05
Odin13:
grin

This road is a funny Yoruba project .. that will outdate this administration

Tinubu is just doing this for fame ..

Wetin I know

As long as hunger keep knacking Yoruba people and not just us in kaduna

As long as Yoruba land keep getting empty and Fulani herdsmen keep taking over .. with those two by two shops .. igbo men buying up large lands and fencing them

As long as Yoruba people keep deserting their land .. and pouring into Lagos .. claiming lagosians .. leaving the town with acute poverty and chronic hunger

Nothing spoil..

If Tinubu say Na costal road be his problem .. Nigerians Dey..

Inflation and hunger go just turn normal.. even his people starts eating flesh.. no one care carry on jare

Nigeria need tourism more than development


Mumu, tourism is not a form of development?

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Re: Ben Murray-Bruce Talks About The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Highway by David160(m): 4:04pm On May 05
naptu2:
Ben Murray-BruceTalks About the Lagos-Calabar Highway.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIA01B-8vqU?si=PunEAxf0y1Q6nR10





Even his principal Atiku opposed the project....
Re: Ben Murray-Bruce Talks About The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Highway by Paramount01(m): 4:05pm On May 05
Urheadmaster:










What with the noise about the 700 kilometre Lagos-Calabar coastal highway that lead to nowhere tongue


Connect 7 states together
Re: Ben Murray-Bruce Talks About The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Highway by mosicola(m): 4:05pm On May 05
My own problem is to see food chop. That is the only thing bothering me
Re: Ben Murray-Bruce Talks About The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Highway by Paramount01(m): 4:06pm On May 05
AfroBeatDiary:
What else will he say if not to l*ck Tinubu's behind as usual.


Are they in the same party?
Re: Ben Murray-Bruce Talks About The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Highway by stevups(m): 4:08pm On May 05
rhanoden:
Most people speaking out in support of such waste at a time when the Country is grappling with it highest debt and living crisis are poorly informed.

If you don't understand economics properly, opportunity cost, environmental impact, cost-benefit analysis, then there is no point deceiving the public on a subject you don't know. Bruce should be asked to keep quiet and listen to the experts.

Thank God you know more than Ben.Bruce .
Re: Ben Murray-Bruce Talks About The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Highway by frankson1(m): 4:08pm On May 05
SpecialAdviser:

You don't need time to use your brain bro. An existing road is in bad shape and economy in bad shape but FG is wasting money to build a road that may take 15years and can be abaddoned in the future.

God gave us brain to think. Never take advice from Nigeria criminal politicians. They only care about your sentiment.




There was a first Niger Bridge, why was a 2nd built?
Re: Ben Murray-Bruce Talks About The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Highway by Paramount01(m): 4:10pm On May 05
SpecialAdviser:

You don't need time to use your brain bro. An existing road is in bad shape and economy in bad shape but FG is wasting money to build a road that may take 15years and can be abaddoned in the future.

God gave us brain to think. Never take advice from Nigeria criminal politicians. They only care about your sentiment.



Pls Is Ben Bruce and Tinubu ion the same party?
Re: Ben Murray-Bruce Talks About The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Highway by Paramount01(m): 4:11pm On May 05
melow666:
What of fixing the bad ones before reaching for new roads.


But they are also renovating the bad roads now

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Re: Ben Murray-Bruce Talks About The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Highway by Ubdavis(m): 4:14pm On May 05
A project that would never come to reality

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Re: Ben Murray-Bruce Talks About The Lagos-Calabar Coastal Highway by CommonSense1967: 4:14pm On May 05
Shattuck:
the US is more economically viable thus comparing western nations borrowing and Nigeria's borrowing isn't the same, I am not totally against the building of the highway my concerns are basically the cost and timing, by the way building a beer factory is even more economically viable than the coastal highway, [b][/b]from the local farmers who supply some of the brewing ingredients to the production of tons of the product, to the packaging, transportation and distribution and the wholesale and retail sellers a beer factory [/b]provides more economic insentive, in the end governance is largely based on perspective if tinubu is sure that the best way to spend over a billion dollar at the moment is to build an highway at an overbloated cost then it's ok.


I hope you were joking when you typed the bolded part.

Capital projects have been used in many parts of the world to jinja up slow economics. When you build capital projects such as this roads it affects almost every aspect of the economy - cement factories will have to increase their production, raw materials for cement will be sourced, and local businesses for that raw material will benefit. Iron producers will benefit, fuel suppliers and producers will benefit, engineers and other road construction workers will benefit, food sellers will benefit because they have to feed the workers, and the list is endless
This will help circulate money hard earned money into the economy and act as a catalyst for economic growth.
Now, when the road is done, more and more people will move closer to those areas that have been empty for thousands of years, and businesses will spring up in many areas that have never seen human traffic before. The effect is unimaginable, it will change the Nigerian economy on a monumental scale. A brewery? Are you really serious? grin grin
Comparing this to a beer factory must be an attempt on your part to be comedic ...I will just laugh out loud. grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin

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