raumdeuter:


One season Liverpool won 13 straight games to end the season yet Pep matched him and won 13 straight

Liverpool get 97, Pep got 98

Ferguson with his meager 80points where he wan stand?

Lol, that's the same season.

Klopp only lost once (against Pep). He decimated everybody. Pep join am too decimate everybody. Na that head to head naim Pep take carry league.

Imagine waiting for your rival to drop point since January. You wait till e enter May, yet nothing!!

Chukwu aju

Fergie should be thanking his stars

Jodera:

I never said they were comparable neither did my posts imply so.

I said points shows the strength of the team to show that they're not only strong but consistent in winning.

The 2007/08 was a strong team than the 2012/13 but that doesn't mean the latter set are bum that season the way you're making it out to be.



Geez!!! I just did a quick check and I found out the 2012/13 team was on 89points and not 86 you erroneously said.Common guy, 89point team bum??

Ah, thank God for my mistake be that - you have even used it to buttress my point further

The point here is that the Gulf in class is too wide - there is no basis for comparison at all....

The 2012/2013 team was the weakest Fergie's teams of his final 6-7years at the club : that side relied solely on RVP's magical form.

Till today, it's no secret that Fergie was even praised for winning the league with such a poor team. Some pundits even attributed Moyes' failure at UTD to his decision to "inherit" such a weak side without adequate reinforcements.

raumdeuter:


Wetin Decline Rice win this season?

How far with Kane breaking Bundesliga record

Burndisleaguedown.

airmark:


Kane at 30, scoring 40+ goals on his debut season, points to only one thing - #Burndisleaguedown.

raumdeuter:


How many FFP charges dem carry give Chelsea

E no reach 115

raumdeuter:


Wetin Decline Rice win this season?

How far with Kane breaking Bundesliga record

Which player has the most goals in his debut season in Bundesliga history?

Saw it some where

Please confirm

AdisaOwala:


Ah, thank God for my mistake be that

The point here is that the Gulf in class is too wide - there is no basis for comparison at all....

The 2012/2013 team was the weakest Fergie's teams of his final 6-7years at the club : that side relied solely on RVP's magical form.

Till today, it's no secret that Fergie was even praised for winning the league with such a poor team. Some pundits even attributed Moyes' failure at UTD to his decision to "inherit" such a weak side without adequate reinforcements.

To be honest, an 89 point team can't just be suddenly weak like that. It relies on Van Persie, yes but it was more than that.

What it just shows is that Moyes is an inept coach that can't handle a top team which makes it looks that the players were that baaaad!

It's akin to Chelsea under Lampard. They look like bums and couldn't even make top 4. Tuchel came, use that same team to win Fa cup and Uefa CL while finishing 4th in the league (from a possible 8th when he arrived).

Their play was so good that all they felt they needed to compete for league was a striker to complete them (Lukaku says hi)

Who knows, maybe that 2013 set lacked a "tuchel" cos an 89-point team can't be that baaaad.

Naaaahhhh!!!

popizaino:
Jackson is perfect for Chelsea and no need for another striker next season


@timbros 2024.

Jackson will not even make City's bench, but Timbros loves them mid in our team.

Jodera:

To be honest, an 89 point team can't just be suddenly weak like that. It relies on Van Persie, yes but it was more than that.

What it just shows is that Moyes is an inept coach that can't handle a top team which makes it looks that the players were that baaaad!

It's akin to Chelsea under Lampard. They look like bums and couldn't even make top 4. Tuchel came, use that same team to win Fa cup and Uefa CL while finishing 4th in the league (from a possible 8th when he arrived).

Their play was so good that all they felt they needed to compete for league was a striker to complete them (Lukaku says hi)

Who knows, maybe that 2013 set lacked a "tuchel" cos an 89-point team can't be that baaaad.

Naaaahhhh!!!

TT nor win FA o baba

Jodera:

To be honest, an 89 point team can't just be suddenly weak like that. It relies on Van Persie, yes but it was more than that.

What it just shows is that Moyes is an inept coach that can't handle a top team which makes it looks that the players were that baaaad!

It's akin to Chelsea under Lampard. They look like bums and couldn't even make top 4. Tuchel came, use that same team to win Fa cup and Uefa CL while finishing 4th in the league (from a possible 8th when he arrived).

Their play was so good that all they felt they needed to compete for league was a striker to complete them (Lukaku says hi)

Who knows, maybe that 2013 set lacked a "tuchel" cos an 89-point team can't be that baaaad.

Naaaahhhh!!!

How bad or worst the team was, isn't the main issue here TBH

The point is that them Welbeck, Evans and co finished with more points than a team that had prime Vidic, Evra, Rooney, Ronaldo, Tevez etc, yet the team with fewer points was light years ahead of the former.

This, coupled with other examples is why I feel the "points amassed analogy" is flawed in the context of team/league strength assessment

Ibunkun1:


TT nor win FA o baba

Ohhh yea. Thanks

Leicester won you guys in the final

My bad. I just remembered the semi final he won Guardiola. I mistook that for the final

AdisaOwala:


How bad or worst the team was, isn't the main issue here TBH

The point is that them Welbeck, Evans and co finished with more points than a team that had prime Vidic, Evra, Rooney, Ronaldo, Tevez etc, yet the team with fewer points was light years ahead of the former.

This, coupled with other examples is why I feel the "points amassed analogy" is flawed in the context of team/league strength assessment

You're the one doing comparisons Tbh.

I'm classing them and not comparing 2013 set to 2008 set. You should know that even within a class, senior still dey inside.

So in essence, what I'm just telling you that the two sets are very strong sides and their points shows so(89 and 87 respectively) because both sets were winning CONSISTENTLY.

E no suppose hard again to get my point

airmark:


Burndisleaguedown.

Did Kane stop 40+ goals in the Bundesliga?

AdisaOwala:


Which player has the most goals in his debut season in Bundesliga history?

Saw it some where

Please confirm

I think Haaland had more PL goals in his debut season help confirm it

raumdeuter:


I think Haaland had more PL goals in his debut season help confirm it

Haha

You havent answered o

Who has the record of the most goals scored during his debut Buli season?

No be you talk say Kane no break any record for Germany?

AdisaOwala:


Haha

You havent answered o

Who has the record of the most goals scored during his debut Buli season?

No be you talk say Kane no break any record for Germany?

I tire.

Jodera:

You're the one doing comparisons Tbh.

I'm classing them and not comparing 2013 set to 2008 set. You should know that even within a class, senior still dey inside.

You can't class them oga - they are light years apart.

This one no be about seniority

Jodera:

So in essence, what I'm just telling you that the two sets are very strong sides and their points shows so(89 and 87 respectively) because both sets were winning CONSISTENTLY.

E no suppose hard again to get my point

Both were winning consistently - one was doing it vs strong sides while the other was vs bums : 2nd placed Spurs in 2016/2017 season also amassed similar points to this UTD side in question.

AdisaOwala:


Haha

You havent answered o

Who has the record of the most goals scored during his debut Buli season?

No be you talk say Kane no break any record for Germany?

The Bundesliga record is 41 goals, did Kane break it?

Look at record breakers like Haaland whether na debut season or undebut season

raumdeuter:


The Bundesliga record is 41 goals, did Kane break it?

Look at record breakers like Haaland whether na debut season or undebut season

Which player has the most goals in his debut season in Bundesliga history?

AdisaOwala:


You can't class them oga - they are light years apart.

This one no be about seniority



Both were winning consistently - one was doing it vs strong sides while the other was vs bums : 2nd placed Spurs in 2016/2017 season also amassed similar points to this UTD side in question.

1.Lol, when I meant seniority, I didn't even mean the time (like age or sort). I meant of quality



2.Did anyone not fear that Spurs side of 2016/17?

Like did any coach or fans (whether at England or abroad) not look that Spurs side as a very strong team that should be taken seriously?

Ahhh!!...

Na wa ooo

Jodera:

1.Lol, when I meant seniority, I didn't even mean the time (like age or sort). I meant of quality

If you agree that the quality of the sides (and ofcourse the opposition) no be the same, it's a further testament to the fact that the "points system" metric for League/team strength is flawed

Jodera:

2.Did anyone not fear that Spurs side of 2016/17?

Like did any coach or fans (whether at England or abroad) not look that Spurs side as a very strong team that should be taken seriously?

Ahhh!!...

Na wa ooo

Which Yeye Fear?

I am sure if you check well, na Harry Kane goals been carry the team.

Spurs of them Berbatov, Bale, Robbie Keane, Defoe,Pavluychenko, Modric etc was even stronger, yet this your "points system" is telling another story

fredoooooo:
Pep na Agba coach .. Respect

Na the corrupt FA I blame.

115 charges, Man city should be playing in Championship next season, with the fraud they perpetrated to achieve this feat. Unfair to Arsenal who didn't break financial rules of the game.

Jodera:

I wonder ooo.

He's even calling Benitez.

Nobody for stop Pep.

The only reason why people think EPL have dropped is because Pep is dominating it. If Pep no dey, na so we for deh hear how EPL standard high

See the rubbish Jackson, Chelsea paraded as main striker for the season. Someone struggling to start for Senegal, leading the attack of my darling team. Can you compare him to Costa or Drogba? Can you compare Disasi and Badiashile to Terry, Carvalho/Alex? Can you compare Cucurella to Ashley Cole?

When you compare players like Nistelrooy, Tevez, Rooney, Ronaldo to the Amadu, Kabiru, Anthony and Fadeyi, playing for United now, then you will have a rethink. Can Maguire talk where Jaap Stam roars?

That's why it pains when other fans are supporting mediocrity in our team. Since Costa left, Chelsea haven't got a reliable finisher. Why wouldn't Fraudiola feast with Haaland, KDB, B. Silva, Grealish and co?

When we had a prolific striker and solid players, we won the league under Fraudiola's nose.

Jodera:
Lmaoo.
Even the Version of Mancini have to slug it out with Fergie on the last day, it's now the version of Prime Man City of Silva, Kdb, Sane, AGuero and Fernandinho?

It's not even about Fergie beating pep one on one. Maybe prime Ferguson team can do it.

But will prime Fergie team beat the Stokes, Evertons and others consistently without dropping points along the way?

That's what Pep have over all these other coaches

Pep won't dominate EPL during Fergie time.

Same way Fergie team won't dominate during this Pep man City team.

Both teams were the Dons of their era.

Jodera:

Lol, that's the same season.

Klopp only lost once (against Pep). He decimated everybody. Pep join am too decimate everybody. Na that head to head naim Pep take carry league.

Imagine waiting for your rival to drop point since January. You wait till e enter May, yet nothing!!

Chukwu aju

Fergie should be thanking his stars

This is what failed against Pep Man City

airmark:


Na the corrupt FA I blame.

115 charges, Man city should be playing in Championship next season, with the fraud they perpetrated to achieve this feat. Unfair to Arsenal who didn't break financial rules of the game.

Jealousy

popizaino:


Yes......Mr wise argument

People like Adisa and co only bring up these arguments AFTER the win. Long before the season ended I had told people that no excuses will be adequate.

The same goes for you. You cannot give Carlo credit for winning UCLs in the same era you are denigrating in another breath. It does not work that way.

If the era is inferior. It should cut across all leagues and competitions. Simple.

We just need to focus on getting an established striker next season. Unfortunately there are not many of them in the world right now. . There is no point spending in other departments. Most of the players that were out due to injury this season are like new signings. E.G fofana, lavia, nkunku. Just get me a striker and we are good to go.

Sportsweb:
Pep won't dominate EPL during Fergie time.

Same way Fergie team won't dominate during this Pep man City team.

Both teams were the Dons of their era.

Lmao,how many times Fergie finish with 90pts

Jodera:
Lmaoo.
Even the Version of Mancini have to slug it out with Fergie on the last day, it's now the version of Prime Man City of Silva, Kdb, Sane, AGuero and Fernandinho?

It's not even about Fergie beating pep one on one. Maybe prime Ferguson team can do it.

But will prime Fergie team beat the Stokes, Evertons and others consistently without dropping points along the way?

That's what Pep have over all these other coaches

Even pep vs Fergie UCL finals was a mismatch,the two most one sided UCL finals ever...shey Na him wan face pep in a format where he displays his full wizardry...

Madrid did 92,96,100points and won La Liga once

Liverpool did 97,99,92points and won the EPL once

How many times Fergie finished with 90pts?

Amigoss:


Lmao,how many times Fergie finish with 90pts

LMAO..I just did small research o. Ferguson ain't surviving this Pep Guardiola's era.

Sir Alex Ferguson highest point in a season is 91.

Ferguson won't survive Pep Guardiola's era.

Ferguson and United just enjoyed life low-key, winning EPL with as low as 71 points 😂😂.

Ferguson no de to top four in this Ferguson era.


It's 100 points or nothing

popizaino:


We need a striker first before a left back.

Yes. 11 brand new strikers.

timbros:


Yes. 11 brand new strikers.

No our first XI next season should be 11 malo Gusto.