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Iran Exposed Itself As A Mediocre Third World Power by Odibembem: 5:43pm On May 20
The events of the last 24 hours has exposed Iran as a mediocre third world country still at the rudimentary level of security intelligence, national security, military capabilities and technology. Over the years, the Islamic Republic and it's cheer leaders have portrayed Iran as an emergent global power able to take down the major powers. They had boasted that their military capacity was top notch and that they would deal with Israel ruthlessly whenever they deem fit. Their enrichment of uranium almost to nuclear warhead capacity was tainted as evidence that they had arrived and that Israel or even d US would never directly dare them.
We tried to explain to the Iranian cheerleaders that d Islamic Republic has never successfully prosecuted any war save their stalemate with Iraq that ended in d late 80s and their arming rebels and terrorists around their region is not evidence of capacity. We explained to them that d ease with which Israel took out their nuclear scientists and head of their revolutionary guards showed they were no match for d global powers not to talk of d pin point elimination of Soleimani by d US and inability of Iran to retaliate decisively. So last month, when they finally shot missiles and drones that took upwards of 6 hours to reach Israel passing thru d airspace of other countries, 99% of them intercepted, Iran and their cheerleaders celebrated like they just won d world cup. Israel having been pressured by d US chose to reply symbolically and many didn't even get d significance, d missiles Israel shot at Iran were shot from deep around or within Iranian territory meaning that Israel could breach their territory without d consent or airspace of d neighbors. Then d disaster of May 19.
Helicopter crashes are common, that was not d issue. Below are
1. Iran still uses a US made helicopter manufactured over 50 years ago. Since both countries broke relations since 1979, it means d helicopter must had been bought at d black market and it's parts whenever it needs servicing are bought at d black mkt. So Iran cannot buy helicopters from their so called friends like Russia and China such that they prefer to use a second or third hand helicopter for their president?
2. Iran has not fully mapped their country such that it took upwards of 15hours to locate d debris of the helicopter carrying their president?
3. Iran has no radar or satellite capacity to locate objects within its own territory that she had to call on d EU, Turkey, Russia and d Saudis to help them track their own Presidential helicopter inside their own country? It was ultimately a Turkish drone that located d wreckage according to some reports
4. Iran has not mastered d elements, d weather as it hampered their search for hours. If they were to prosecute a war with Israel or d US in terrible weather conditions, it means they would go completely blind

Please let's advise Iran to go and rest. Any war with Israel would be a complete obliteration and we would be hearing cries of genocide and ICJ. They are not in same level. Such a war should never be allowed to happen.
The international community should urgently take more seriously d issue of Iran's quest for nuclear weapons. They don't have d capacity and technology to maintain nuclear reactors. The world and that region in particular doesn't need another Chernobyl. If need be force should be used to halt d program and put it to an end. Iran doesnt even have military intelligence or d technology to resist an attack on their nuclear power sites anyway.
Iran should be advised to stay at home and stop interfering in Lebanon, Syria and Yemen where they are arming terrorists. The regional ambition they aspire to is not for mediocre third world countries that embarrass themselves before the world by taking over 15hours to locate their Presidential helicopter crash inside their own country and crying yonother countries to come and help them. Let them concentrate on development and be a positive example to the world. A word is enough for d wise.

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Re: Iran Exposed Itself As A Mediocre Third World Power by ElSudani: 6:02pm On May 20
And what exactly is your headache with the middle east crisis?
How does it affect you as a West African?

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Re: Iran Exposed Itself As A Mediocre Third World Power by SpatialKing(m): 6:03pm On May 20
They are just noise makers and empty

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Re: Iran Exposed Itself As A Mediocre Third World Power by kettykin: 6:05pm On May 20
Thank you for the analysis. question is if Iran is that far from reality then how far is the big useless, good for nothing mumu of Africa and the world

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Re: Iran Exposed Itself As A Mediocre Third World Power by Odibembem: 6:05pm On May 20
ElSudani:
And what exactly is your headache with the middle east crisis?
How does it affect you as a West African?

It affects international trade through d suez canal, it affects global energy prices, it therefore affects our livelihood. Also a nuclear leak anywhere in d world can find it's way to Nigeria's coasts. Except someone is a Buffon, the implication of wars in d middle east is too obvious not to see

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Re: Iran Exposed Itself As A Mediocre Third World Power by ElSudani: 6:11pm On May 20
Odibembem:


It affects international trade through d suez canal, it affects global energy prices, it therefore affects our livelihood. Also a nuclear leak anywhere in d world can find it's way to Nigeria's coasts. Except someone is a Buffon, the implication of wars in d middle east is too obvious not to see

What a load of nonsense. The Suez canal is in Egypt, a country you didn't mention in your write up. Apart from the fact that the crisis between Israel and Iran doesn't affect movement of goods through the Suez canal how come you didn't say anything about trade through out your write up.

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Re: Iran Exposed Itself As A Mediocre Third World Power by hedonido: 6:11pm On May 20
ElSudani:
And what exactly is your headache with the middle east crisis?
How does it affect you as a West African?

And why not ignore the thread if you feel it doesn't concern you?

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Re: Iran Exposed Itself As A Mediocre Third World Power by ElSudani: 6:13pm On May 20
hedonido:


And why not ignore the thread if you feel it doesn't concern you?

You don't control who view or respond to what you put on the internet. This is not your bedroom. If you don't want anyone to respond to it then you keep it on your device and read it by yourself.

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Re: Iran Exposed Itself As A Mediocre Third World Power by hedonido: 6:14pm On May 20
Iran is a joke. Just like Russia exposed its weaknesses with the Ukraine misadventure, Iran has also danced naked before the whole world. No surprises though.

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Re: Iran Exposed Itself As A Mediocre Third World Power by hedonido: 6:17pm On May 20
ElSudani:


You don't control who view or respond to what you put on the internet. This is not your bedroom. If you don't want anyone to respond to it then you keep it on your device and read it by yourself.

We are saying the same thing.

You don't control the OP's right to put anything he likes on the internet. If you don't like what someone else puts on the internet, ignore it!

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Re: Iran Exposed Itself As A Mediocre Third World Power by Christistruth00: 6:19pm On May 20
Isreal head strong oh!


Anyway the Bible says He that keepeth Isreal
shall neither slumber nor sleep

Re: Iran Exposed Itself As A Mediocre Third World Power by ElSudani: 6:21pm On May 20
hedonido:


We are saying the same thing.

You don't control the OP's right to put anything he likes on the internet. If you don't like what someone else puts on the internet, ignore it!

We are not saying the same thing. I just wanted to know why he is so concerned about the middle east to the point of issuing a warning to Iran.
Re: Iran Exposed Itself As A Mediocre Third World Power by Odibembem: 6:22pm On May 20
ElSudani:


What a load of nonsense. The Suez canal is in Egypt, a country you did mention in your write up. Apart from the fact that the crisis between Israel and Iran doesn't affect movement of goods through the Suez canal how come you did say anything about trade through out your write up.

I didn't mention trade cos it's obvious and in my reply to u I did mention that only buffons won't see d correlation. Ok, also morons wouldn't see d correlation. If u are coming from suez canal from Europe, next call is d red sea and that's where d Houthis are. The Houthis are some of d nuisance/terrorist groups being prompted by Iran so any war involving Iran also involves d Houthis. When d Houthis were siezing ships a few months ago, did d war directly affect them? No. But cos it involves their other partners in d axis of evil being Hamas and Hizbollah, they started disrupting international trade and even cut underground internet cables that resonated as far as West Africa/Nigeria. Wars have ramifications far beyond the epicenter of action. I need not lecture u on this, I assumed it's learned adults that are on this platform.

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Re: Iran Exposed Itself As A Mediocre Third World Power by SUPERPACK: 6:29pm On May 20
We all agree that Iran is a third world country. Can you now stop accusing them of funding Hamas, Hezbollah etc. They are also very poor so cannot sponsor terrorism

Their technology is so poor so stop blaming them of drone attacks in Israel.

They only know how to make catapults.
Re: Iran Exposed Itself As A Mediocre Third World Power by Odibembem: 6:30pm On May 20
ElSudani:


We are not saying the same thing. I just wanted to know why he is so concerned about the middle east to the point of issuing a warning to Iran.

Seems u enjoy d sound of war, d bombs, the cries, the use of children and women as human shields, the carrying of dead bodies of babies thru d streets for d cameras to see as if it's a trophy, then calling on d UN, ICC and ICJ to declare d war genocide when u should not had started it in d first place. My write up warns Iran and it's cheerleaders to halt any thoughts of war. Why that should upset u is what I don't understand Mr ElSudani!

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Re: Iran Exposed Itself As A Mediocre Third World Power by Dijita: 6:33pm On May 20
Odibembem:


I didn't mention trade cos it's obvious and in my reply to u I did mention that only buffons won't see d correlation. Ok, also morons wouldn't see d correlation. If u are coming from suez canal from Europe, next call is d red sea and that's where d Houthis are. The Houthis are some of d nuisance/terrorist groups being prompted by Iran so any war involving Iran also involves d Houthis. When d Houthis were siezing ships a few months ago, did d war directly affect them? No. But cos it involves their other partners in d axis of evil being Hamas and Hizbollah, they started disrupting international trade and even cut underground internet cables that resonated as far as West Africa/Nigeria. Wars have ramifications far beyond the epicenter of action. I need not lecture u on this, I assumed it's learned adults that are on this platform.

learned adults? grin. Are you new to this forum? 95% of them are Obi and Tinubu Zombies.

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Re: Iran Exposed Itself As A Mediocre Third World Power by ElSudani: 6:37pm On May 20
Odibembem:


I didn't mention trade cos it's obvious and in my reply to u I did mention that only buffons won't see d correlation. Ok, also morons wouldn't see d correlation. If u are coming from suez canal from Europe, next call is d red sea and that's where d Houthis are. The Houthis are some of d nuisance/terrorist groups being prompted by Iran so any war involving Iran also involves d Houthis. When d Houthis were siezing ships a few months ago, did d war directly affect them? No. But cos it involves their other partners in d axis of evil being Hamas and Hizbollah, they started disrupting international trade and even cut underground internet cables that resonated as far as West Africa/Nigeria. Wars have ramifications far beyond the epicenter of action. I need not lecture u on this, I assumed it's learned adults that are on this platform.

Anyone can see through your one sided glorification of Israeli military might as supported and propped up by their western allies.
I have nothing against Israel but only an extremely biased or perhaps dumb person will not understand the root cause of all the crisis in the middle east, which is the Palestinian issue.
You deviously left out any mention of Palestine. The Houthis and the Hamas of this world did not exist before the Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands.
One thing is certain, if the world did not allow the Nazis to exterminate the Jews, I doubt they will stand by and let the Jews exterminate the Palestinians.

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Re: Iran Exposed Itself As A Mediocre Third World Power by ElSudani: 6:41pm On May 20
Odibembem:


Seems u enjoy d sound of war, d bombs, the cries, the use of children and women as human shields, the carrying of dead bodies of babies thru d streets for d cameras to see as if it's a trophy, then calling on d UN, ICC and ICJ to declare d war genocide when u should not had started it in d first place. My write up warns Iran and it's cheerleaders to halt any thoughts of war. Why that should upset u is what I don't understand Mr ElSudani!

No, I don't enjoy any form of violence whether committed by Palestinians or by the Israelis. This is where we part, you seem to the think the Jews can do no wrong.
Re: Iran Exposed Itself As A Mediocre Third World Power by franchasofficia: 6:42pm On May 20
Russia
Iran
North Korea
China
South Africa


5 mumu countries overrating their military capabilities just because US currently have an old senile President undecided


The below countries are the cheerleaders in military and advanced technologies:

USA
Germany
France
Israel
United Kingdom
Japan

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Re: Iran Exposed Itself As A Mediocre Third World Power by Afamsi: 7:30pm On May 20
In Nigeria all those supporting Iran are Tinubu fans. Mek I go deeper?

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Re: Iran Exposed Itself As A Mediocre Third World Power by pointblank247(m): 7:37pm On May 20
hedonido:
Iran is a joke. Just like Russia exposed its weaknesses with the Ukraine misadventure, Iran has also danced naked before the whole world. No surprises though.

Russia did not expose or show any weakness. Russia is fighting a mini world war and holding its ground against all odds. How many country can do that. Do you know what America suffered in Vietnam? Did that take away anything from America?
Russia is still Russia any time any day

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Re: Iran Exposed Itself As A Mediocre Third World Power by Bigseven(m): 7:46pm On May 20
Very soon some sect in Nigeria will start solidarity with Iran to the point of crying more than the bereft.
Re: Iran Exposed Itself As A Mediocre Third World Power by ALLNIGERIANSMAD(m): 7:48pm On May 20
ElSudani:
And what exactly is your headache with the middle east crisis?
How does it affect you as a West African?
see them? Truth dey pain them for body
Re: Iran Exposed Itself As A Mediocre Third World Power by YorubaLord: 7:56pm On May 20
Persia, modern day Iran, is a cursed nation... just like every Islam nation. They're all cursed! angry

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Re: Iran Exposed Itself As A Mediocre Third World Power by Odibembem: 8:00pm On May 20
ElSudani:


Anyone can see through your one sided glorification of Israeli military might as supported and propped up by their western allies.
I have nothing against Israel but only an extremely biased or perhaps dumb person will not understand the root cause of all the crisis in the middle east, which is the Palestinian issue.
You deviously left out any mention of Palestine. The Houthis and the Hamas of this world did not exist before the Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands.
One thing is certain, if the world did not allow the Nazis to exterminate the Jews, I doubt they will stand by and let the Jews exterminate the Palestinians.

Let's be fair as much as we can though that would always be very difficult. That land u call Palestine is disputed territory, both sides have legitimate claims. Unfortunately severally when peace was brokered for them to have two states, it was always d Arab side that refused d proposal. In 1947, 2000, 2006, d Arabs always were d ones that said no. Now who really owns d land? Does any of us own any lands? The land belongs to d conqueror otherwise how did Arabs come to live in Africa when their original home is d Arabian peninsula before d rise of Islam? They conquered north Africa and Sudan, Sudan used to be black, now it's Arab Republic and a member of d Arab league. How Doesn't that hurt u as a black man? Now back to d Arab Israeli conflict, there is no question that Jews were indigenous to that place, even d quran attest to that. Jesus was a Jew, Roman records confirm Pontius Pilate was actually Procurator of Judea meaning it was not a fairy tale. Roman Emperor Hadrian was d one who finally banished d Jews afte their rebellion and holdout at Masada, every Jew in that fotress fought to d death, not a single Arab was in that land to fight d Romans. The province was called Judea and Galilea, it was Hadrian that changed d name to Palestine, not d Arabs as they were still at d Arabian peninsula then. Twas d rise of Islam that brought Arab migrants there and they made d place their home so Palestine as it was now called was never their indigenous home. But I admit we are all migrants, even my grandfathers came from somewhere before settling in Uromi Edo state so I won't accept someone telling me their ancient grandfathers were once there before my fathers. Unfortunately wars have been used to settle claims like this and over so many years it favoured d Arabs as they used war to claim territory upon territory. Now let's look at Hebron, in d Oslo peace treaty, Israel agreed to give it up, same with Bethlehem which are now all in d West Bank. Hebron is from d word "Hebrew" which is d most ancient name of d Jews, it's were d founders of Israel are buried, Joseph, Jacob, etc, d place is called Tomb of d Patriarchs. So u can imagine d sentiments of d Jews to Hebron. Unfortunately for them, when d Arabs came, they built their own mosque right on d same place of d Jewish tomb of d patriarch and called theirs Ibrahimi mosque. That's same way they built d Alasqa mosque on d same spot where d Jews had Solomon's temple. Google Hebron massacre, it happened around 1922 when Arabs attacked and committed genocide against Jews, no repercussions. Now Israel took all these lands in 1967, tell me any country that has willingly gave back what she won in war. Tell me any Arab country that have back what she won in war. So Israel has been very benevolent. Look at Gaza, it was under Egyptian occupation from 1948 to 1967, why didn't they give Palestinians independence? West Bank was under Jordan from 1948 to 1967, why didn't they give Palestinians independence? My suggestion to d Palestinians is that they stop listening to those beating their chest and urging them to fight on. They should cut their losses, negotiate with Israel and get their state with concessions from both sides and renounce Hamas and Islamic terrorism of any kind, make their state a demilitarized one like Japan. They should learn to love their children more than they hate the Jews.

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Re: Iran Exposed Itself As A Mediocre Third World Power by jamesversion: 8:07pm On May 20
ElSudani:
And what exactly is your headache with the middle east crisis?
How does it affect you as a West African?

Are you a Shiite Muslim? cheesy
Re: Iran Exposed Itself As A Mediocre Third World Power by AcadaWriter: 8:11pm On May 20
They are just noise makers and empty
Re: Iran Exposed Itself As A Mediocre Third World Power by Jlow2: 8:25pm On May 20
When America pressured Isreal not to retaliate, Iran with all what the boast of should have known better, when i knew Iran were just bluffers was when America killed solemani head of Iran revolutionary guards , Iran quickly shot down a passenger airplane thinking it was an American drone,America in less than an hour told the world it was Iran that shot down the passenger airplane, it took Iran over a week to know it was actually a passenger airplane they shot down and not a drone.
Re: Iran Exposed Itself As A Mediocre Third World Power by ElSudani: 9:06pm On May 20
jamesversion:


Are you a Shiite Muslim? cheesy

I go to Church every Sunday. Whether you believe it or not is not my concern. I am not at war with Muslims.
Re: Iran Exposed Itself As A Mediocre Third World Power by ElSudani: 9:14pm On May 20
Odibembem:


Let's be fair as much as we can though that would always be very difficult. That land u call Palestine is disputed territory, both sides have legitimate claims. Unfortunately severally when peace was brokered for them to have two states, it was always d Arab side that refused d proposal. In 1947, 2000, 2006, d Arabs always were d ones that said no. Now who really owns d land? Does any of us own any lands? The land belongs to d conqueror otherwise how did Arabs come to live in Africa when their original home is d Arabian peninsula before d rise of Islam? They conquered north Africa and Sudan, Sudan used to be black, now it's Arab Republic and a member of d Arab league. How Doesn't that hurt u as a black man? Now back to d Arab Israeli conflict, there is no question that Jews were indigenous to that place, even d quran attest to that. Jesus was a Jew, Roman records confirm Pontius Pilate was actually Procurator of Judea meaning it was not a fairy tale. Roman Emperor Hadrian was d one who finally banished d Jews afte their rebellion and holdout at Masada, every Jew in that fotress fought to d death, not a single Arab was in that land to fight d Romans. The province was called Judea and Galilea, it was Hadrian that changed d name to Palestine, not d Arabs as they were still at d Arabian peninsula then. Twas d rise of Islam that brought Arab migrants there and they made d place their home so Palestine as it was now called was never their indigenous home. But I admit we are all migrants, even my grandfathers came from somewhere before settling in Uromi Edo state so I won't accept someone telling me their ancient grandfathers were once there before my fathers. Unfortunately wars have been used to settle claims like this and over so many years it favoured d Arabs as they used war to claim territory upon territory. Now let's look at Hebron, in d Oslo peace treaty, Israel agreed to give it up, same with Bethlehem which are now all in d West Bank. Hebron is from d word "Hebrew" which is d most ancient name of d Jews, it's were d founders of Israel are buried, Joseph, Jacob, etc, d place is called Tomb of d Patriarchs. So u can imagine d sentiments of d Jews to Hebron. Unfortunately for them, when d Arabs came, they built their own mosque right on d same place of d Jewish tomb of d patriarch and called theirs Ibrahimi mosque. That's same way they built d Alasqa mosque on d same spot where d Jews had Solomon's temple. Google Hebron massacre, it happened around 1922 when Arabs attacked and committed genocide against Jews, no repercussions. Now Israel took all these lands in 1967, tell me any country that has willingly gave back what she won in war. Tell me any Arab country that have back what she won in war. So Israel has been very benevolent. Look at Gaza, it was under Egyptian occupation from 1948 to 1967, why didn't they give Palestinians independence? West Bank was under Jordan from 1948 to 1967, why didn't they give Palestinians independence? My suggestion to d Palestinians is that they stop listening to those beating their chest and urging them to fight on. They should cut their losses, negotiate with Israel and get their state with concessions from both sides and renounce Hamas and Islamic terrorism of any kind, make their state a demilitarized one like Japan. They should learn to love their children more than they hate the Jews.

Your references to medieval wars of conquest is quite laughable. There was a time in history when you can kidnap a woman and make her your wife, why don't you try that now?
Re: Iran Exposed Itself As A Mediocre Third World Power by LagosSuperStar: 9:22pm On May 20
hedonido:
Iran is a joke. Just like Russia exposed its weaknesses with the Ukraine misadventure, Iran has also danced naked before the whole world. No surprises though.

Russia is respected in the whole of Europe

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