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Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by Somilat: 4:14pm On May 31, 2024
Golan007:
Cohen was sentenced to prison in December 2018 after pleading guilty to campaign finance charges and lying to Congress, among other crimes. In all, he spent about 13 1/2 months behind prison walls and a year and a half in home confinement. His time was further reduced through good behavior.

The campaign finance charges came after he helped arrange payouts during the 2016 presidential race to keep the porn actor Stormy Daniels and model Karen McDougal from making public claims of extramarital affairs with Trump. Trump has denied the affairs.

He implicated Trump at the time in the campaign finance charges, as he did again on Monday when he said that his release from home confinement “in no way negates the actions I took at the direction of and for the benefit of Donald J. Trump.”


https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-crime-new-york-manhattan-campaigns-3a0413202e80ab99c9f6377f97d07c04
Would be strange for a minion to get more time than a leader.
Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by Somilat: 4:20pm On May 31, 2024
imagine he was elected and had to spend the presidency from prison grin grin
Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by linearity: 4:26pm On May 31, 2024
DaddyCoool:
How does that nagate that he was serial liar and his testimony possibly all lies?
It is a settled law enforcement mechanism to use rack and file drug dealers to get their boss at the top or if you want to get a Mobster gang leader, his associations who themselves are guilty do testify against their boss.....in fact their are murder cases where the person who pulled the trigger are letter off the hook if they testify and help convict the person that sent them on errand.

In the case of Cohen, he have already served jail time for his crimes, so he does not have any incentive from the DA to lie, plus his testimony are collaborated by evidence.

Plus, 12 different people from different walk of life sat in that court room, they heard the testimonies that none of heard, they saw evidence that none of saw, they were able to see, evaluate at close range all the testifiers....and at the end of the day all 12 of them voted to convict Trump.

Trump's Defense team had the simplest of task, just sow a seed of doubt in just one jury's mind but they could not.
Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by ogbonti: 4:42pm On May 31, 2024
TallDarkMan:
Brah, stop lying. Biden forgot he had the documents and returned it immediately they asked for it. Trump on the other hand, wanted to keep the documents. The Feds requested those documents for months on end, but Trump refused to return it. What would you have them do?
Lies? that Biden as a VP and Senator has no right to put classified documents at his garage for decades? Return it yes because he has no power to declassify documents - as a Senator or VP, Trump was President and what he says is declassified is declassified - thats why Bill Clinton took his own classified documents home and the heavens did not fall because he was President, Biden wasnt at the time- so know the difference Mr. Linus
Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by Somilat: 4:43pm On May 31, 2024
DMerciful:
Obi won 2023 but the corrupt establishment rigged him out
obi won.. can obi do anything about it?
Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by Golan007: 4:43pm On May 31, 2024
Somilat:
Would be strange for a minion to get more time than a leader.
In theory.

Even minions take initiative.

So Don Carrasco asks Siquentes to kill off Jimi snake eye.

Siquentes does this but robs Velotti's shop, violates Cabbi's 17 year old daughter, tortures Snake eye Jr before torching their home down.

I think Don Carrasco might get a heavy sentence, yet unlikely as much as Siquentes.
Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by ogbonti: 4:46pm On May 31, 2024
kingxsamz:
Na who dem catch be thief bro.
If Biden is guilty of anything you mentioned, then he should stand trial for it. But since you said he can't, there's nothing I can do about that. My only focus is on the one who's actually been proven to be a criminal.
Trump will lose and you'll cry for four more years over how the election was rigged. Nothing changes. Like I said, Trump shouldn't have been committing crimes that can be used against him. 🤷🏾‍♂️
Your first line here shows why you and your likes have permitted a certain criminal called Emilokan to rule over your a ss in Nigeria

The Supreme court of Nigeria says Tinubu won and failed to admit a host of evidence to show he is a forger, liar and narco dealer, never won the FCT, never won in Rivers, IREV turned off, voters intimidation evidence, security operatives rigging election in broad daylight and for sure, the compromised supreme court gave a verdict to uphold his presidency- so that judgement so makes it right abi? You reason with your anus and people like you are the very reason why Nigeria has gone down drain

so if dem no catch Anini, he was never a thief ?


you sound intelligent right? bloody as s s h. ole
Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by kingxsamz(m): 4:58pm On May 31, 2024
ogbonti:
Your first line here shows why you and your likes have permitted a certain criminal called Emilokan to rule over your a ss in Nigeria

The Supreme court of Nigeria says Tinubu won and failed to admit a host of evidence to show he is a forger, liar and narco dealer, never won the FCT, never won in Rivers, IREV turned off, voters intimidation evidence, security operatives rigging election in broad daylight and for sure, the compromised supreme court gave a verdict to uphold his presidency- so that judgement so makes it right abi? You reason with your anus and people like you are the very reason why Nigeria has gone down drain

so if dem no catch Anini, he was never a thief ?


you sound intelligent right? bloody as s s h. ole
Tinibooo is a brainIess, useIess doIt, so don't include me with his sIave supporters. Focus on the main discussion abeg.
Like I said, Trump is the criminal I know for now. Maybe if Biden is prosecuted and convicted, then you'd have a point. For now, cope.
Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by ogbonti: 5:00pm On May 31, 2024
kingxsamz:
Tinibooo is a brainIess, useIess doIt, so don't include me with his sIave supporters. Focus on the main discussion abeg.
The use of analogy is to drive home arguments not to dwell on Orbicta Dicta!
Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by kingxsamz(m): 5:03pm On May 31, 2024
ogbonti:
The use of analogy is to drive home arguments not to dwell on Orbicta Dicta!
Your argument is based on assumptions.
Trump is the only criminal I know.
Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by Pclemenza: 5:07pm On May 31, 2024
Goodvibes007:
The 2024 Republican National Convention is where the delegates of the United States Republican Party will select the party's nominees for president and vice president in the 2024 United States presidential election.
So same thing we call Primaries during our election season.
Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by Mrexcell(m): 5:09pm On May 31, 2024
Thryphosa:
There's option of fine and he also has the right to appeal. Appealing will buy him more time, let's say a year, and the election would have been conducted before then, if he is lucky to win then he'll be under immunity. Being convicted will not stop him from contesting for the presidency.
Interesting so people with criminal records can be allowed to contest presidential election in the US?
Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by Pclemenza: 5:12pm On May 31, 2024
Jail, NO

Fine, maybe.
adioolayi:
Hmmm..

Trump going to jail or getting a finehuh

If this happens to be Nigeria or Africa, we will not give deserving kudos to the judiciary, rather, we will definitely say it's a well planned attack on opposition by the sitting President, so that the his closest challenger will not be on the ballot.

Anyways, let's see if Trump will still be on the ballot or it's end of the road for him
Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by ijebosb: 5:23pm On May 31, 2024
ogbonti:
Lies? that Biden as a VP and Senator has no right to put classified documents at his garage for decades? Return it yes because he has no power to declassify documents - as a Senator or VP, Trump was President and what he says is declassified is declassified - thats why Bill Clinton took his own classified documents home and the heavens did not fall because he was President, Biden wasnt at the time- so know the difference Mr. Linus
Most of this is wrong. I assume you get your info from Right Wing Sources. Go read the full report.

Presidents can decalissify records by deeming them so as the President controls the Executive branch. But there are records that can't be declassified like nuclear secrets. But that ability ends the minute a new President is sworn into office. There is no evidence Trump declassified the info in his home before he left office. In fact there is evidence he knew they were classified and still shared them with other people. (there is a recording of him saying he shouldn't be sharing a document he shared).

Even still, to go further Presidents only own notes they take. They deem those notes personal records. What Clinton had were those such notes. What Biden had in his home were mostly those such notes. What Trump had in his house were actual classified documents that he had no right to that the Federal Government owned. Trump had things like nuclear secrets. He has no ownership of them. (ex. Trump could declassify a report on Aliens. But the actual report is still the property of the Fed. Government. He doesn't own them) And when the government came calling to get them back with a court ordered subpoena/search warrant. He hid them and lied about having them and told others to lie about them. That is the difference between Trump and Biden. Intent, is the difference. By lying and not returning them when asked, Trump's intent was to steal or keep the documents. Biden may have packed them by mistake, but when he found them he called the Government and allowed the government to come search for them.
Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by ijebosb: 5:27pm On May 31, 2024
Mrexcell:
Interesting so people with criminal records can be allowed to contest presidential election in the US?
Yes. There are only 3 restrictions for being President.

1.) Be a natural-born citizen of the United States
2.) Be at least 35 years old
3.) Have been a resident of the United States for 14 years
Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by bluefilm: 5:45pm On May 31, 2024
ogbonti:
You are right to think so because Trump biggest opposition is the establishment of the GOP but just like how it happened with Obaseki and Oshiomole in 2020 election, nobody should underestimate the effect of sympathy votes

Now the African Americans who believe they have been unfairly treated by the American justice system wil now see a symbol of their situation in Donald Trump and they will vote for him massively- and true, he is the first President that brought criminal justice reforms that helped decriminalize blacks who were unfairly sent to Prison by Bill Clinton for mini possession of drugs as low as marijuana

They tried taking this man off the ballot in democrat controlled states and they failed miserably- now they hand a conviction on him to make it impossible to campaign

Nothing unites a people more than a common feeling of victimhood and the democrats just gave the election 2024 victory to Donald Trump on a platter of gold

Do you know the website for Donald Trump fundraising crashed because Americans flooded the site to donate to Trump? hmm the landslide go too sweet for November

Mandela was imprisoned- and he returned a hero, even the current Senegalese President came out from Prison to become President- Obasanjo was released from Prison to become Presidnt after a sham coup trial by Abacha - even Jesus was crucified for being a great man amongs insecure Rabbis and so called Sanhedrin - Joseph went to Prison for not sleeping with Portiphar’s wife and became Prime Minister of all Egypt - so be it with Donald J Trump

Sometimes greatness comes from taking a hit from witch hunts and prosecution - I am not bothered at all by all these - Trump is alive and thats all that maters - and he will win Big in November

And lets not forget- it has now started with Trump, other future US Presidents are fair game for future prosecutions and it wont end. This is what happens in Banana Republic that made America stand tall among nations- but not anymore, just in 4 years, this Biden Administration has succeeded in making countries like Russia, China, Cuba and Venezuela look at us in the face and proudly say, How is America different from us? Even Nigerians gloating over this judgement should be alarmed becaue Tinubu can borrow this democrat play book before 2027 to lock up Peter Obi or any other formidable contender in the 2027 election, so this is a sad day for lovers of democracy all over the world.

Dictatorships are born when leaders think the people have no right to make the right decisions for themselves as it affects the country- and this is happening in America- Democrats have nothing to run on, so they fear Americans are too dumb to make the right decision at the ballot box, so they must destroy Trump by all means

So if in future - if Obama gets charged to court for his role in “Fast and Furious” that led to the death of some Americans - I hope you guys wont be mad that it’s racism or wickedness of the white man? Please remember where it all started from

It started with this sham prosecution of Donald Trump, because what is good for the goose, is good for the gander ….
Your analyses is top notch 💯

Keep it up

I'm really really so so impressed 👍
Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by GloriousGbola: 5:55pm On May 31, 2024
cococandy:
I remember when people were arguing with me that this man is a billionaire

Audio billionaire

Mr liar
Obligatory

Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by IfnobeGod20(m): 5:59pm On May 31, 2024
adioolayi:
Hmmm..

Trump going to jail or getting a finehuh

If this happens to be Nigeria or Africa, we will not give deserving kudos to the judiciary, rather, we will definitely say it's a well planned attack on opposition by the sitting President, so that the his closest challenger will not be on the ballot.

Anyways, let's see if Trump will still be on the ballot or it's end of the road for him
In Nigeria it can't even happen because ethnicity, religiosity and sectionalism have blinded our inner conscience that patriotism has been relegated to the ground.
Invitation of ex president for questioning alone is a big deal in our country, let alone prosecuting ex president. His people will rise to defence of him and see it as religion or ethnic witch-hunt.
Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by cococandy(f): 6:00pm On May 31, 2024
GloriousGbola:
Obligatory
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Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by IfnobeGod20(m): 6:07pm On May 31, 2024
Tyriq:
America is doomed without trump in the.next electionm..chai e pain me
Sorry America is not Nigeria where the destiny of a state or the nation is tied to a person. America have developed a system that can work out miracles for a dullard president.
Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by IfnobeGod20(m): 6:18pm On May 31, 2024
LeeSmart:
Baba is definitely going to appeal and therefore delay this case, so it could buy him enough time for the upcoming election....Trump should better win dis presidential election if not baba is surely going to jail.
Please do you know what American law says on someone already on trial to vying for a post? We are talking of a sentence and no more an accused person. Their laws may be different from ours my brother. Even though he has leverage to appeal the sentence but does their permits such person to be voted for?
Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by Pascal9: 6:28pm On May 31, 2024
Lanretoye:
they are always in the losing side,I don’t just understand why.anybody they support is doomed or they always support a doomed person.
all these yrs you have been supporting losing candidates from awolowo, to olu falae, to atiku and ribadu were your candidates winning, let's hear word Igbo hater and secret admirer.
Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by omoyeni37: 6:52pm On May 31, 2024
ogbonti:
He is very correct, each time I go yo buy groceries its like I lost money if I go there with cash, and If I use a debit card, I notice that I buy fewer things. Americans will vote their pocket than emotions, and everyone knows Trump ‘s economy of 2017-2020 is 1,000 better than Biden’s economy
Trump should just win the election abeg.
Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by valarinz: 7:36pm On May 31, 2024
AmazonTopaz:
Biden will still beat him.
Not my problem, I just needed to put a stop do your misinformation

Cheers ✌🏿
Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by ijebosb: 8:46pm On May 31, 2024
ogbonti:
He is very correct, each time I go to buy groceries its like I lost money if I go there with cash, and If I use a debit card, I notice that I buy fewer things. Americans will vote their pocket than emotions, and everyone knows Trump ‘s economy of 2017-2020 is 1,000 better than Biden’s economy
What is the inflation like in Nigeria? In other parts of the world? The US does have inflation, but it is better than most countries and the US has come out of the pandemic economically better than any country.

This amnesia is weird, 4 years ago, you would be lucky if you could find eggs or toilet papers in the stores. Car prices were outrageous and gas prices were low because no-one was driving. The unemployment rate was double. What policy would Trump propose that would help anything? This nonsense magical amnesia is amazing. It's powered by the amount of propaganda the right wind puts out.
Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by ogbonti: 9:03pm On May 31, 2024
omoyeni37:
Trump should just win the election abeg.
he will thats why they are scared ti their pants
Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by luminouz(m): 11:53pm On May 31, 2024
DrAda:
Hello Troll, glad that you are alive and well.
Troll? That's rude of you!!!
Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by Sladem05: 1:10am On Jun 01, 2024
Goodvibes007:
Bye Donnie.. His sentencing is 4 days before the Republican National convention.
This wouldn’t have happened in Nigeria. Didn’t Tinubu walk scotch free?
Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by Sladem05: 1:11am On Jun 01, 2024
YungG:
Inas much I like him to win the election...with this felony I don't see him getting to the ballots


quote author=adioolayi post=130228604]Hmmm..

Trump going to jail or getting a finehuh

If this happens to be Nigeria or Africa, we will not give deserving kudos to the judiciary, rather, we will definitely say it's a well planned attack on opposition by the sitting President, so that the his closest challenger will not be on the ballot.

Anyways, let's see if Trump will still be on the ballot or it's end of the road for him
If it was Nigeria, Nothing would have happened. If you have wealth and power. Only God can stop you in that country.
Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by firearcher: 6:13am On Jun 01, 2024
linearity:
all you just stated are hogwash and shows you clearly does not know what you are talking about!

DOJ is a federal agency, had they gone after him on this, it would have been publicized more that it is the Biden federal government that is prosecuting him.

Plus Elections in the USA are state matters and not federal, so a State and not a federal agency like DOJ would have more tools and jurisdiction to prosecute him.

What is FECA? Is that Federal Employee's Compensation Act, what do they have to do with this?

Which Electoral Body are you taking about? Again the USA does not have a separate Electoral body, each state administers her elections themselves and advance laws to protect their own election hence a State is prosecuting him here.

Change of venue is at the discretion of the Judge and Trump had already appealed the denial for a change of venue before, but the New York Court of Appeal denied that request. Forum shopping is not allowed in the US, he did the crime in NYC, it is only fair that he face a jury of his peer in NYC.

Offcourse they will have to appeal, but what are the material facts upon which they will appeal? Remember that, Trump have already made several appeals on this case and each and every one of them have been denied...base of his track records, the chances of success are very slime.
You can stay in your bubble and pretend everything that happened was done above board. Experience have taught me over the years of following US politics is that its a waste of time arguing on Trump related matter with partisans on the left and right and those who are caught up with the "Trump is Hitler" bug.

Let's see how it goes after the appeal. The only thing I will correct is the error I made writing FECA instead of FEC.
Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by BALLOSKI: 8:42am On Jun 01, 2024
adioolayi:
Hmmm..

Trump going to jail or getting a finehuh

If this happens to be Nigeria or Africa, we will not give deserving kudos to the judiciary, rather, we will definitely say it's a well planned attack on opposition by the sitting President, so that the his closest challenger will not be on the ballot.

Anyways, let's see if Trump will still be on the ballot or it's end of the road for him
Is that not what Americans are saying? It's politically motivated.
Re: Trump Found Guilty In Hush-Money Trial, Faces Sentencing In July by DrAda(f): 10:56am On Jun 01, 2024
luminouz:
Troll? That's rude of you!!!
Rude? I didn't think you knew the meaning of the word considering that you insist on replying my posts in a very "rude and insolent" manner
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