₦airaland Forum

Kukutente23:
Till tomorrow I still can't understand the rationale behind Azikiwe's decision. Just imagine being played for a fool by some pesky aboki with all his education
I suspect he thought the 1960 constitution gave same powers to the governor General like the 1954 constitution.
This is more reinforced by the fact he did not know he had no control over the military until 1965!!
Zik was a mugu who was the first northern puppet from the South!!

Kukutente23:
1. Read carefully your reference. It did not say both regions were one country. The owners named the Upper part of River Zambezi northern Rhodesia and the lower part Southern Rhodesia. Both were never one country. They only used the river as reference. Just like Northern Nigeria and Southern Nigeria were two different countries before amalgamation. They were named for River Niger but were not one country before amalgamation. Hope you get it now?

2. Under what laws will that referendum come when the constitution says "We the people..... are one indivisible and indisoluble entity called Nigeria"? That statement alone rules out any legitimate quest for secession. Do you get it? The only way you can get a secession now is through a constitutional amendment. But I ask again. Who wants that?

AlexBells:
Ideology is flexible, time is impacts everything. If your ideology is not subject to change and time then it can’t endure, time and change are unstable, a great politician is unstable

confusedlady:
Oga,
A great politician is STABLE and has an IDEOLOGY which is the basis of his politics. He may be flexible but it must be within his ideology..... does a communist/socialist become a capitalist??.....lol

raskymonojendor:
All these na english. Basically, Zik was a chameleon. He was not a man of his word.

confusedlady:
Then tell your governors, assembly men, senators, ministers and house of reps members to pass a bill seeking an amendment to the constitution to insert a referendum clause....that is the first step and not violence, and terrorism....but we know you will never do this because you want to have your cake and eat it too......lol....you want Biafra but you want Nigeria more.. ...

DMerciful:
How does referendum = secession?

The 1999 constitution, you and I weren't part of it, it was actually a schedule of the military decree 24 or so

DMerciful:
When Ojukwu declared secession, why didnt Awolowo declare secession of the Western Region?

Kukutente23:
That's not true. The 1999 constitution is basically a continuation of the 1995 constitution. It was the product of a constitutional conference. It is not perfect of course but it is not an imposition as is usually being peddled.

AlexBells:
Tell me one such politician who is stable, are you a politician and if yes, do you consider yourself great? Can you call Biden stable, Can you call Putin stable, can you even call Tinubu stable. If Tinubu for instance is table whats with the back and forth with subsidy, what’s with the back and forth with Labour if you are stable as a politician you are predicable and that’s not a great politician. Parties have ideology, politicians don’t

DMerciful:
Was there a referendum by the Nigerian people to adopt it ?

DMerciful:
Carved out lands tgat were existing for thousands of years before him? Igbos have always been there for centuries

confusedlady:
Oga,
Stop mixing up policy with IDEOLOGY for goodness sake.
Biden is a democrat and Trump is a republican. Each party has its ideology however in government policies may change but the IDEOLOGY remains the same.
Educate yourself....the Internet is free for goodness sake.
Goggle political ideology, then goggle political policy......there is a clear difference.
Haba.....
A kid knows these things....

confusedlady:
So why was he Ojukwus ambassador and special adviser at the beginning of the war?

DeadCountry:
Who need your useless imposed governors, assembly men, senators, ministers and house of reps members? Just don't worry, there is a guy called Simon Ekpa and he is taking care of curing the madness of all you cesspitians.

Kukutente23:
The 1995 constitution? No. What does that imply?

Kukutente23:
You're just one person. Except you have the powers, you can't make the change you want. Calling me unity beggar might make you feel better and raise your shoulder in empty feeling of superior individualism but fact remains you are not in a position to do anything about it and the critical stakeholders from the East don't share your sentiments.

No senator from the East has ever raised the question of our nationhood not when the East had the Senate presidency for 8 years, or the deputy Senate presidency for 8 years, or the deputy speakership now. So if you're looking for unity beggars, look no further than your political leaders!!

confusedlady:
Azikiwe was a very unstable politician whose ideology changed with each day.....NCNC.....Biafra......NPP......
He stole NCNC from Herbert Macaulay.......in Biafra he initially supported Ojukwu but midway through the war jumped ship and declared support for Gowon and Nigeria......He stole the Nigeria people's party (NPP) from Waziri Ibrahim who had to abandon the party for him to go and form Great Nigeria people's party(GNPP).

Kukutente23:
That's not true. The 1999 constitution is basically a continuation of the 1995 constitution. It was the product of a constitutional conference. It is not perfect of course but it is not an imposition as is usually being peddled.

Referendum is a quest for secession true or not? The constitution foreclosed that. The best chance was 1960 and Zik flunked it. The next best chance is through your elected reps in the legislature and they don't share your sentiments. It's same with the West. Most Westerners want fiscal federalism and devolution of powers. Their elected reps don't share that sentiment. It was even Buhari who wanted something close to that.

Wahabfuture:
This is one very unintelligent post, you mean your selected critical stakeholders? 90% of Igbos are no longer interested in your good for nothing country, if you still doubt then travel to Igbo land and make such comment let me see something, anyway you can continue to live in denial and delusion.

Wahabfuture:
Unity beggar, you can't stay in one Nigeria without the Igbos
-Kiss the truth!

confusedlady:
Lol.....
When Ekpa is arrested and extradited to Nigeria like Nnamdi Kanu, it is scallywags like you that will start begging for his amnesty when he is arraigned before a court of competent jurisdiction and faces his comeuppance.......It is only a matter of time... .

AlexBells:
Does elected politicians work with ideology or policy, you mistake the party for the politician. Party work with ideology, politicians work with policy. A politician is not his party in a democracy and such politicians must make a balanced and all encompassing policy. Is Tinubu the President of APC or Nigerians. If you want to ask for the ideology, go to the party chairman an elected leader works with an all encompassing policy that’s why he or she can’t be stable otherwise he will ignore people outside his ideological scope

DMerciful:
The midwest region was created through a referendum in 1963. Referendum is deferent from secession

TimeManager:
For more jokes, send YES to IBOS.

-Kiss the truth!

Kukutente23:
Till tomorrow I still can't understand the rationale behind Azikiwe's decision. Just imagine being played for a fool by some pesky aboki with all his education
I suspect he thought the 1960 constitution gave same powers to the governor General like the 1954 constitution.
This is more reinforced by the fact he did not know he had no control over the military until 1965!!
Zik was a mugu who was the first northern puppet from the South!!

Wahabfuture:
Who have such power in Nigeria? don't tell me Tinubu the drug criminal in Chicago

confusedlady:
SO TINUBU WILL LEAVE APC IDEOLOGY AND WILL START TO IMPLEMENT LABOUR PARTY IDEOLOGY AFTER WINNING ELECTION??

OR AWOLOWO WILL LEAVE HIS FREE EDUCATION IDEOLOGY OF UPN AND BEGIN TO IMPLEMENT NPN SHAGARI QUALITATIVE EDUCATION??
OGA, I HAVE TRIED TO EXPLAIN THESE THINGS TO YOU BUT IT SEEMS YOU ARE BENT ON A FORLON ARGUMENT........LOL.... I am done with you......good night....lol....

confusedlady:
SO TINUBU WILL LEAVE APC IDEOLOGY AND WILL START TO IMPLEMENT LABOUR PARTY IDEOLOGY AFTER WINNING ELECTION??

OR AWOLOWO WILL LEAVE HIS FREE EDUCATION IDEOLOGY OF UPN AND BEGIN TO IMPLEMENT NPN SHAGARI QUALITATIVE EDUCATION??
OGA, I HAVE TRIED TO EXPLAIN THESE THINGS TO YOU BUT IT SEEMS YOU ARE BENT ON A FORLON ARGUMENT........LOL.... I am done with you......good night....lol....

raskymonojendor:
There is the believe that Zik was expecting the Prime Minister post, but he was outsmarted by the North that he thought were foolish and instead got given the ceremonial presidential position.

How Ibos Gave The NORTH The Edge To Run NIGERIA

How Zik allegedly betrayed Awo and pitched his tent with the North in 1959.

The parliamentary elections were held in Nigeria on 12 December, 1959. The result was a parliament that had no clear majority to form a government.

Zik’s National Council of Nigeria and Cameroon (NCNC) came first with 2,594,577 votes to get 81 seats.

Awolowo’s Action Group (AG), came 2nd with 1,992, 364 votes to get 73 seats.

However, Sir. Ahmadu Bello’s Northern People’s Congress (NPC) came a distant 3rd with 1,922,179 votes to get 134 of the 312 seats in the House of Representatives, despite getting fewer public votes.

The above three major political parties in the election did not get enough seats to form a government. So, an alliance had to be formed to determine who would rule Nigeria. It was a no brainer that Zik’s NCNC and Awolowo’s Action Group should make a coalition government as they came first and second respectively.

Awolowo then humbled himself and volunteered to be a deputy prime minister or finance minister in a coalition government with Zik as the Prime Minister.

This was because Zik’s NCNC party had more public votes and seats than Awolowo’s Action Group.

Zik invited Awolowo’s team to Asaba, the gateway between the Yoruba’s western region and the Igbo’s Eastern region to hold coalition talks.

The talks were a clever ruse to keep Action Group hopes high, so that the party could be kept distracted from meeting with other minor parties for talks. Other junior parties included: Northern Elements Progressive Union with 8 seats: Mobolaje Grand Alliance with 6 seats: Igala Union with 4 seats: Independents Candidate with 4 seats: Igbira Tribal Union with 4 seats and the Niger Delta Congress with 1 seat.

While the Action Group team was waiting in Asaba for a meeting with the NCNC, they read in the newspapers that Zik and the NCNC had gone up North and clinched a deal with Ahmadu Bello on forming a coalition government with the Northern People’s Congress (NPC).

Tafawa Balewa would be the Prime Minister of Nigeria, while ZIk would be a ceremonial, Governor-General.

Even the President of Ghana, Dr. Nkrumah was shocked. He asked why ZIk, having expended so much energy, fighting for colonial emancipation and settling for a toothless bulldog role when Nigeria needed him the most.

Zik wrote in his autobiography why he did not go for a coalition government with Awolowo;

In 1947, with over £13,500 raised from the Yoruba people and given to the NCNC. Zik had led other six prominent NCNC delegates to London to protest the obnoxious laws of Governor Arthur Richards.

The trip ended in failure with backbiting, abuses and accusation of theft leveled against Zik.

Zik’s opponents in the NCNC, accused him of squandering the money and the trust of Nigerians. Zik replied, insinuating that the Yoruba in the team, who were: Mrs. Funmilayo Ransome-Kuti, Prince Adeleke Adedoyin, and Dr Olorunnimbe, were the problem.
There erupted a heated and prolonged press war among Zik’s political associates reminiscence of what happed in his West African Pilot and H.O Davie’s Political Panorama in the Daily Service. The incident spurred the Igbo in Lagos rushing to buy machetes in large numbers, thinking a tribal war was imminent. The Governor and his General Secretary, Hugh Foot quickly called ZIk and H.O Davies to order at the Government House. Zik went away with the resolve that “the Yoruba must not be allowed to rule over others in Nigeria”.

And later, Daily Service published the speech of Zik in 1949 about Igbo being destined by God to conquer and rule over others. That speech, among others, was later to explain why Zik rejected Awolowo’s offer of a coalition government in 1959 and instead decided to work with the FULANI

The Fulani had been reading Zik and the Igbo through the lens of his 1949 speech ever since. The Fulani’s way of neutralizing Zik when the opportunity came in 1959 was to offer him a powerless post, which surprisingly Zik and the NCNC dutifully accepted in place of being Nigeria’s first Prime Minister.

ZIk had thought that the Igbo could easily manipulate the Fulani unlike the educated Yoruba. He thus manipulated Balewa to arrest Awolowo in 1962 and to have him jailed for 10 years in 1963 for treasonable felony.

Zik also manipulated Balewa to remove from the Western Region the Edo, Urhobo, Isekiri and western Ijaw that account for 70% of the oil wealth in Nigeria and created for them Mid-Western Region.

Zik’s hatred for the Yoruba gave the Fulani the impetus to rule over others in Nigeria. The coup plotters tried to rectify Zik’s mistake in 1966. And unfortunately, they killed other ethnic group leaders and left their leaders, which resulted to the civil war.

Britain did not really hand over Nigeria to the Fulani, Nigeria was given over to the Fulani by the Igbo. However, to hold on to power in Nigeria, the Fulani enlisted the backing of the self-serving career politicians in England.[/b]

confusedlady:
That is why Nnamdi Kanu is shackled in the DSS facility dungeons pleading and crying for freedom....lol....