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They are not debating cow, they are debating the beef and dairy industry which is a multi-billion industry and affects the lives of millions it also employs thousands of people.

You can't just over-simpkify it to be cow

Mynd44:
They are not debating cow, they are debating the beef and dairy industry which is a multi-billion industry and affects the lives of millions it also employs thousands of people.

You can't just over-simpkify it to be cow

Dude, it's just cow.

They are not debating any industry, if not you would have heard terms like preservation, pricing, processing, standards...

They are talking about whether or not, COW should be allowed to roam the streets.

Something that has a simple answer, "NO" and a simple solution, "RANCHING"



The issue with Nigeria is we make simple problems look like Rocket Science, so simple problems with simple solutions keep piling up unsolved.


NO! COWS SHOULD NOT BE HERDED ON THE STREETS , simple, then move on to the next problem.


If in 2024 we can't figure out whether or not COWs should be herded on public streets, then what year do you think we will solve problems like Electricity and pipe borne water? In year 3000?

God have mercy on us.

kYjelly2:
Na wa for Nigeria

Na wa for Black Man

its a pity where find ourself my brother

Mynd44:
They are not debating cow, they are debating the beef and dairy industry which is a multi-billion industry and affects the lives of millions it also employs thousands of people.

You can't just over-simpkify it to be cow

What a shallow moderator.

[quote author=kYjelly2 post=130345083][/quote]Only inferiority complex and low self esteem could make anyone think that discussing about cow is debasing or suddenly makes you have low intelligence quotient. Few weeks ago, there was an outbreak of bedbugs in France and discussion of bedbugs became a national debate , featured on CNN and even carried to US! Discussing bedbugs at a national level is what again? Many of you have not stepped out of Nigeria and Africa yet you debase your own race. Smh


Cow has been a subject of debate in Europe and even India, discussing it is not special. Where I come from in Nigeria, it's better to jaw jaw than to war war. You can come online to form yet if beef scarcity sets in, you will complain of hunger.

My position is that making laws on cow business should go to the states houses of assembly because they are in a better place to monitor the business.

FreeStuffsNG:
Only inferiority complex and low self esteem could make anyone think that discussing about cow is debasing or suddenly makes you have low intelligence quotient. Few weeks ago, there was an outbreak of bedbugs in France and discussion of bedbugs became a national debate , featured on CNN and even carried to US! Discussing bedbugs at a national level is what again? Many of you have not stepped out of Nigeria and Africa yet you debase your own race. Smh


Cow has been a subject of debate in Europe and even India, discussing it is not special. Where I come from in Nigeria, it's better to jaw jaw than to war war. You can come online to form yet if beef scarcity sets in, you will complain.

Same in North America. The dairy industry almost caused a rift between USA and Canada.

They sometimes almost fight over beef production too.

kYjelly2:
Dude, it's just cow.

They are not debating any industry, if not you would have heard terms like preservation, pricing, processing, standards...

They are talking about whether or not, COW should be allowed to roam the streets.

Something that has a simple answer, "NO" and a simple solution, "RANCHING"



The issue with Nigeria is we make simple problems look like Rocket Science, so simple problems with simple solutions keep piling up unsolved.


NO! COWS SHOULD NOT BE HERDED ON THE STREETS , simple, then move on to the next problem.


If in 2024 we can't figure out whether or not COWs should be herded on public streets, then what year do you think we will solve problems like Electricity and pipe borne water? In year 3000?

God have mercy on us.

It is not a matter of "no cow should be on the street"

It is a matter of if you will ranch, where do you get funding for it? If you want to do large scale semi-open grazing where animals can open-graze but within the confines of a place, where do you get the land and how far is the lands to the markets and consumers?

It is a matter of if you dance totally, you will need to buy feeds, these will increase the cost of production therefore increasing the cost of beef

Do you understand that Western countries subsidize animal farmers per head of animal they have just so their cost of production can reduce will will keep the price of the food down?

Do you understand these or you just want to shout cow 🐄 cow 🐄 cow 🐄?

Why should government be interfering into private business.

If they have guidelines about how to run business in the country, Cows discussion shouldn't be consuming our time

FreeStuffsNG:
Only inferiority complex and low self esteem could make anyone think that discussing about cow is debasing or suddenly makes you have low intelligence quotient. Few weeks ago, there was an outbreak of bedbugs in France and discussion of bedbugs became a national debate , featured on CNN and even carried to US! Discussing bedbugs at a national level is what again? Many of you have not stepped out of Nigeria and Africa yet you debase your own race. Smh


Cow has been a subject of debate in Europe and even India, discussing it is not special. Where I come from in Nigeria, it's better to jaw jaw than to war war. You can come online to form yet if beef scarcity sets in, you will complain of hunger.

My position is that making laws on cow business should go to the states houses of assembly because they are in a better place to monitor the business.

It should go to the states alone, they should be involved as on the national level, it needs to be discussed.

If cattle are ranked, it means they buy feed, it means less grains for human consumption that is a problem too.

Cow (and animal farming) should not just be discussed, a conference should be held about it

Every society have their own issues,it's not just cow but herder farmers crisis. It's not late for such discussions and even if well handled,herders will be educated on the need for advancement,other business men will come into the ranching business.
If I had the capital sef I would go into ranching.
So don't just see it as COW.

Mynd44:
They are not debating cow, they are debating the beef and dairy industry which is a multi-billion industry and affects the lives of millions it also employs thousands of people.

You can't just over-simpkify it to be cow

Open grazing is an unproductive useless barbaric practice. In a sane civilized society like Europe, such retarded useless people would be shot dead in the first place.

Anyone who wants to go into animal farming, either pig, goat, cow etc should ranch it. Simple as ABC. This is 21st century. It's not by force to rear animal.

helinues:
Why should government be interfering into private business.

If they have guidelines about how to run business in the country, Cows discussion shouldn't be consuming our time

Same way government build garages for private bus drivers
Same way government build airports for private aviation companies
Same way government build grain reserves to store private farm produce.

Food is matter of national security. It needs to be discussed.

Dsimmer:
Open grazing is an unproductive useless barbaric practice. In a sane civilized society like Europe, such retarded useless people would be shot dead in the first place.

Anyone who wants to go into animal farming, either pig, goat, cow etc should ranch it. Simple as ABC. This is 21st century. It's not by force to rear animal.

Not entirely true. I do alot of field work and I have seen open grazing here in the USA and Canada. Sometimes I have to stop for the cows to cross some roads.

It's not uncommon to see cow boys on horses or ATVs herding cows in rural America.

Not supporting open grazing as the environment are different. It would be hard for a Nigerian farmer to fence his/her property all around due to cost to prevent cattles invading their farms, and the menace of Fulani herdsmen commiting crimes.

That's why the discussion in the national assembly is more than just cows like OP is trying to make it seem like.

Dsimmer:
Open grazing is an unproductive useless barbaric practice. In a sane civilized society like Europe, such retarded people would be shot dead in the first place.

Anyone who wants to go into animal farming, either pig, goat, cow etc should ranch it. Simple as ABC. This is 21st century. It's not by force to rear animal.

Do you know in the UK, Scotland, Norway, Belgium, Germany etc a large amount of their animals are raised based on open grazing?

It is called open pasture. Even in Canada.

This is because ranching is expensive and the government wants the cost of food to be low so they provide these lands where your animals can graze without hindrance.

Mynd44:
Same way government build garages for private bus drivers
Same way government build airports for private aviation companies
Same way government build grain reserves to store private farm produce.

Food is matter of national security. It needs to be discussed.

My point is, if we have guidelines in regulating businesses in Nigeria whether cows, garages or whatever we shouldn't be having back and forth arguments about cow grazing or ranching in particular.

How many years have we been discussing this same issue when we could have resolved it long time?

Nigeria has the highest population of educated illiterates in the world... If it is about the beef and diary industry as mynd44 is asserting, they should be talking about building ranches for the cows. That way they cows will be fed better and giving they best health care for healthy beef and diary products which will generate more incomes but no, northerners have an evil agenda to take over the country and are going about killing innocent people in their homelands and farms in a bid to achieve their alterior motive.

raskymonojendor:
Not entirely true. I do alot of field work and I have seen open grazing here in the USA and Canada. Sometimes I have to stop for the cows to cross some roads.

It's not uncommon to see cow boys on horses or ATVs herding cows in rural America.

Nigerians act like open grazing is something that should be forbidden when what we need are laws separating herders from farmers and cities.

These laws must be discussed extensively

Mynd44:
Do you know in the UK, Scotland, Norway, Belgium, Germany etc a large amount of their animals are raised based on open grazing?

It is called open pasture. Even in Canada.

This is because ranching is expensive and the government wants the cost of food to be low so they provide these lands where your animals can graze without hindrance.

That's a lie. Show an example where the Europeans were roaming around with cows like uncivilised retards.

In fact, it's high time the people in Nigeria are enlightened on the fact that Open grazing is even unproductive even to the uncivilised barbaric practiser, apart from their caustic effect on the society.

Ranching is more productive.

Mynd44:
Nigerians act like open grazing is something that should be forbidden when what we need are laws separating herders from farmers and cities.

These laws must be discussed extensively

100%. That's why the discussion in the national assembly is more than just cows like OP is trying to make it seem like. That cattle/dairy industry is a big one.

helinues:
My point is, if we have guidelines in regulating businesses in Nigeria whether cows, garages or whatever we shouldn't be having back and forth arguments about cow grazing or ranching in particular.

How many years have we been discussing this same issue when we could have resolved it long time?

Do you know why we have the farmer-herder crisis?

Do you understand that it is because

1. Places that used to be farms are not becoming towns due to population growth
2. So because of the first point, places that used to be free for herders are now farms and the farms need to grow
3. The herders now have nowhere to go because they have more animals (population that consumes has increased) and the farms are now in places where they normally graze without issues.

How do we solve this? Remember when the former president suggested RUGA which would have separated animals from farms but it was resisted

Afamsi:
Nigeria has the highest population of educated illiterates in the world... If it is about the beef and diary industry, they should build ranches for the cows, that way they cows will be fed better and giving they best health care but no, northerners have an evil agenda to take over the country and are going about killing innocent people in their homelands and farms

This is not about having any evil agenda, it's just the level of illiteracy or perhaps exposure about cows business ( no disrespecting) .

If those who are into cow business consider of having their own ranch, feed their cows with nourished grass, hays or whatever the cows might been eating, they would make more money from diary, having healthy cows and more reproductions.

Cows eating anyhow grass might even affect their reproductions, diseases and infections which might be harmful to.the consumers

Dsimmer:
That's a lie. Show an example where the Europeans were roaming around with cows like uncivilised retards.

In fact, it's high time the people in Nigeria are enlightened on the fact that Open grazing is even unproductive even to the uncivilised owners, apart from their caustic effect on the society.

Ranching is more productive.

There are open pasture in the western countries. The only thing is that where the open pasture is are defined and you can't turn there.

Mynd44:
There are open pasture in the western countries. The only thing is that where the open pasture is are defined and you can't turn there.

I asked you to show an example. People ranch their animals in Europe. They don't roam around like uncivilised retards. Open grazing is highly unproductive to start with. Not to mention such retarded person disturbing the society with his useless retarded barbaric ways. This is 21st century for crying out loud.

Mynd44:
Do you know why we have the farmer-herder crisis?

Do you understand that it is because

1. Places that used to be farms are not becoming towns due to population growth
2. So because of the first point, places that used to be free for herders are now farms and the farms need to grow
3. The herders now have nowhere to go because they have more animals (population that consumes has increased) and the farms are now in places where they normally graze without issues.

How do we solve this? Remember when the former president suggested RUGA which would have separated animals from farms but it was resisted

In all sincerity, we are lazy in southern Nigeria.

Why should we be relying on Northern cows if we have ours? Funnily, even some of the southerners who are into cow business, most of their cows are raised in North, they are same people funding the terrorists herders to allow their cows to feed wherever without considering the consequences.

We have so many unused lands across Nigeria regions. If all regions have their plans about cows ranching, we wouldn't be wasting time discussing this almost yearly when there are more important issues to discuss about.

helinues:
This is not about having any evil agenda, it's just the level of illiteracy or perhaps exposure about cows business ( no disrespecting) .

If those who are into cow business consider of having their own ranch, feed their cows with nourished grass, hays or whatever the cows might been eating, they would make more money from diary, having healthy cows and more reproductions.

Cows eating anyhow grass might even affect their reproductions, diseases and infections which might be harmful to.the consumers

Abeg, na open grazing dey sweet pass and produce healthy meat pass..free range chickens, eggs from free range birds, open grazing lean goats e.t.c are common in stores. Infact, na dem dey cost pass

kYjelly2:
Dude, it's just cow.

They are not debating any industry, if not you would have heard terms like preservation, pricing, processing, standards...

They are talking about whether or not, COW should be allowed to roam the streets.

Something that has a simple answer, "NO" and a simple solution, "RANCHING"



The issue with Nigeria is we make simple problems look like Rocket Science, so simple problems with simple solutions keep piling up unsolved.


NO! COWS SHOULD NOT BE HERDED ON THE STREETS , simple, then move on to the next problem.


If in 2024 we can't figure out whether or not COWs should be herded on public streets, then what year do you think we will solve problems like Electricity and pipe borne water? In year 3000?

God have mercy on us.

You’re right 💯.
These malos are really drawing us back in this country. They want us to be as backward as India. I thought our situation in Africa is completely hopeless and the worst in the world, until I visited India and realized we still have hope.

Cows, dogs and all manner of animals roam about aimlessly in New Delhi and other cities, and they eat from rubbish bins scattered all over their streets. Country of weirdos🤮

India is something else and anyone that wants to bring us to their level is a bastard!

raskymonojendor:
Abeg, na open grazing dey sweet pass and produce healthy meat pass..free range chickens, eggs from free range birds, open grazing lean goats e.t.c are common in stores. Infact, na dem dey cost pass

Open ranch can't be controlled. Cows no dey hear words

helinues:
Open ranch can't be controlled. Cows no dey hear words

They do. All those Fulani kids dey speak to their cows and they listen.

it's just the way we abuse the system in Nigeria. Nigeria is a special country and issues of open grazing needs to be controlled and laws put in place. Criminals hide under grazing and cows destroy people's farms. Hence, the discussion about cows in the national assembly.

raskymonojendor:
Abeg, na open grazing dey sweet pass and produce healthy meat pass..free range chickens, eggs from free range birds, open grazing lean goats e.t.c are common in stores. Infact, na dem dey cost pass

Mumu post. Over 90% of the cow we have in Nigeria are malnourished and skinny, simply because they’re suffering from being moved about in long distances. They’re also poorly fed. A single cow in Netherlands, will produce 3x more meat and milk than an average cow from Nigeria. Same with cow from other places that practice healthy ranching.

Stop living in Stone Age.

raskymonojendor:
They do. All those Fulani kids dey speak to their cows and they listen. it's just the way we abuse the system in Nigeria. Nigeria is a special country and issues of open grazing needs to be controlled and laws put in place. Hence, the discussion about cows in the national assembly.

Bro, let's be realistic.

MrEverest:
Mumu post. Over 90% of the cow we have in Nigeria are malnourished and skinny, simply because they’re suffering from being moved about in long distances. They’re also poorly fed. A single cow in Netherlands, will produce 3x more meat and milk than an average cow from Nigeria. Same with cow from other places that practice healthy ranching.

Stop living in Stone Age.

There is a different between dairy cattle and cattle reared for beef consumption. If you don't know thid basic differences about different breed of cows, I can't even engage you.