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Dsimmer:
Now you mention ranchers, not open grazers.

That was the point to begin with. Ranching, not backward archaic open grazing. As a matter of fact, open grazing isn't practised in Europe.

In America, the natives in the country side were given some privileges however modern law enacted has brought limitation to it.

One fact to note though, is no useless immigrant has any right to be causing havoc to the native of a place/region, let alone, bringing useless retarded backward practice to disturb the native. That's the case we have in Nigeria.

Ranchers or cow boys are what we call cow farmers irrespective of methods used in raising the cattles.
The natives lives on reserves land. My locations where I work on power substations are not native reserve lands.

Open grazing may not be practiced in Europe maybe due to lack of lands or just their laws are stricter. I don't know, but you probably know best since you live in Europe.

I am not sure Fulanis would agree to be called migrants in Nigeria. Are you saying Buhari is a migrant 😂.

helinues:
Why should government be interfering into private business.

If they have guidelines about how to run business in the country, Cows discussion shouldn't be consuming our time

Government exist to solve problems that affect the people collectively.

The issue of cattle rearing affect millions of Nigeria from Abia to Zamfara. It should be discussed and solved. Government got ivolved in Automobile industry, Oil &Gas Industry, Health Industry, so why not Animal Husbandry sub-sector of the Food Industry?

The UK Government is involved in the British Beef and Dairy Industry

descarado:
Is that what they told you?
Take it from someone who know more than an average of how northern politics is played. The same way northern population is bigger than yours if you are from the south.

Those cows are still roaming around cos you believed this lie.
Else, why wil cows be roaming about if there is no political undertone.

Your consumed cows come from nebouring countries that ranches. I think you do not know what you consume daily as beef and how long it takes for a cow to be born and grow to maturity.

That's not what they told me. It's from research papers. Spam bot might ban me if I post the link but screenshot below.

The report also tallies with what mynd44 talked about on page one of this thread.

oyatz:
Government exist to solve problems that affect the people collectively.

The issue of cattle rearing affect millions of Nigeria from Abia to Zamfara. It should be discussed and solved. Government got ivolved in Automobile industry, Oil &Gas Industry, Health Industry, so why not Animal Husbandry sub-sector of the Food Industry?

The UK Government is involved in the British Beef and Dairy Industry

I got to know today as well that those cows contribute to 5% of our GDP. That is a significant figure as far as GDP is concerned.

helinues:
What is stopping the southern people from starting their own cow business without relying on Northern cows.

Can't we start the solution from there?

Do you understand that over 80% of cattle in the South are owned by southerners?

They only hand them over to herders to take care of for them. When you go meet a lot of the rich folks in the south, you will understand it better.

In a lot of cases, they pay the community leaders money to graze their cattle in the bushes too. Problem arise when community leaders collect money from herders and then turn around to sell the same land to farmers

Dsimmer:
Open grazing is an unproductive useless barbaric practice. In a sane civilized society like Europe, such retarded useless people would be shot dead in the first place.

Anyone who wants to go into animal farming, either pig, goat, cow etc should ranch it. Simple as ABC. This is 21st century. It's not by force to rear animal.

What exactly is your point?

You complain about the problems of open grazing and they are now discussing the solutions to prevent open grazing, yet you are still complaining that they are discussing about cows

As funny as this topic title sounds, I learnt a lot here about grazing and cattle farming in Nigeria and from different part of the world

Mynd44:
Do you understand that over 80% of cattle in the South are owned by southerners?

They only hand them over to herders to take care of for them. When you go meet a lot of the rich folks in the south, you will understand it better.

In a lot of cases, they pay the community leaders money to graze their cattle in the bushes too. Problem arise when community leaders collect money from herders and then turn around to sell the same land to farmers

If the Billions used by Akwa-Ibom to build Church Catheral and the Billions used by Aregbesola to build a non-existent Airport were invested on Cattle ranches in Akwa-Ibom andf Osun States for THEIR PEOPLES,
11) It would have generated jobs for thousands of youths in these States
2) Hunger and poverty would have reduced in these States
3) It would served as role models which can inspire other States.

If the 17 Southern States have massive ranches in their States, they would be competing with Fulani Herdsmen, who by now will have no option than modernize their own cattle business model from traditional open grazing to modernized ranching system.

raskymonojendor:
Ranchers or cow boys are what we call cow farmers irrespective of methods used in raising the cattles.
The natives lives on reserves land. My locations where I work on power substations are not native reserve lands.

Open grazing may not be practiced in Europe maybe due to lack of lands or just their laws are stricter. I don't know, but you probably know best since you live in Europe.

I am not sure Fulanis would agree to be called migrants in Nigeria. Are you saying Buhari is a migrant 😂.

Texas was a countryside for example. The point is we've agreed on the fact that open grazing is a backward practice hence why civilized country, including America put limitation on it. Thus the existence of ranching. Modern ranching exist because open grazing is barbaric and backward. A civilized country don't tolerate such harmful barbaric in their civilised society. Open grazing isn't practised in Europe. Point is anyone who wants to go into animal farming, either pig, goat, cow etc should ranch it. Simple as ABC. This is 21st century. It's not by force to rear animal📌

Meanwhile, Fulani are immigrants in Nigeria. They're not indigenous to any place in Nigeria. They came from Sahara & Northern Morocco before settling in the border between Senegal & Mauritania. The Hausa were the ones who allowed them in their land and even let them change the name of some of their territories in the North until Nigeria territories got mapped out under the Europeans, hence, the Hausa should carry their own cross. Point is the Hausa have got it in their hand to either remain dormant while they're trampled upon and murdered by backward criminal ingrates who can't assimilate and respect their host or the Hausa chase the criminal ingrates out of their land.

However, such useless criminal acts won't be tolerated in the Southern Nigeria and Middle belt.

oyatz:
If the Billions used by Akwa-Ibom to build Church Catheral and the Billions used by Aregbesola to build a non-existent Airport were invested on Cattle ranches in Akwa-Ibom andf Osun States for THEIR PEOPLES,
11) It would have generated jobs for thousands of youths in these States
2) Hunger and poverty would have reduced in these States
3) It would served as role models which can inspire other States.

If the 17 Southern States have massive ranches in their States, they would be competing with Fulani Herdsmen, who by now will have no option than modernize their own cattle business model from traditional open grazing to modernized ranching system.

If you ranch without subsidy, you cannot compete with anybody because your cows will be more expensive.

Did you skip economics classes in secondary school?

helinues:
Why should government be interfering into private business.

If they have guidelines about how to run business in the country, Cows discussion shouldn't be consuming our time

I think your account has been hacked. I can’t believe this. Hellanus!! Is that you ?

helinues:
Bro put ranching apart. Why should southerners be selling or buying half yams? Are we disabled in the region that we can't go into extent farming. What is the excuse? Land or money?

Do you have any yam farm? What do you do for a living?

FreeStuffsNG:
Only inferiority complex and low self esteem could make anyone think that discussing about cow is debasing or suddenly makes you have low intelligence quotient. Few weeks ago, there was an outbreak of bedbugs in France and discussion of bedbugs became a national debate , featured on CNN and even carried to US! Discussing bedbugs at a national level is what again? Many of you have not stepped out of Nigeria and Africa yet you debase your own race. Smh


Cow has been a subject of debate in Europe and even India, discussing it is not special. Where I come from in Nigeria, it's better to jaw jaw than to war war. You can come online to form yet if beef scarcity sets in, you will complain of hunger.

My position is that making laws on cow business should go to the states houses of assembly because they are in a better place to monitor the business.

Adamu Aliero tried to make a big issue out of it. The practice is ranching worldwide. How a Senator in this age brought his warped logic, made him disgrace himself. A few out of their greed make a big issue of ranching. Cows are discussed worldwide as it brings plenty of wealth, but roaming with cows from city to city and street to street, must not be discussed, as it is archaic and trouble fetching. Without roaming, security can be better handled too, as herdsmen stand accused of perpetrating kidnaps. Any top official from the north who argues in favour of roaming, could be a kidnapping suspect.

Go around the country and take a look at ranches. Take a look at herdsmen roaming around with their cows. The difference is clear in that cows in ranches are cleaner, healthier and fatter. The owners make more money. For those who prefer to migrate, just like Adamu Aliero, there is a sinister plan. Herdsmen only need to purchase feed for the cows, get Vet Doctors to check them get the best from their businesses.

Open grazing is clearly outdated and it’s no longer working in our already deeply polarized country.

oyatz:
If the Billions used by Akwa-Ib to build Church Catheral and the Billions used by Aregbesola to build a non-existent Airport were invested on Cattle ranches in Akwaand Osun States for THEIR PEOPLES,
11) It woul have generated jobs for thousands of youths in these States
2) Hunger and poverty would have reduced in these States
3) It would served as role models which can inspire other States.

If the 17 Southern States have massive ranches in their States, they would be competing with Fulani Herdsmen, who by now will have no option than modernize their own cattle business model from traditional open grazing to modernized ranching system.

More reason why state governments need to go into farming.

Personally, I don't see why each state government don't have its own state farm and agro industries. Food crops such as cassava, Palm etc with their agro processing factories/industries to produce the end products. And cash crops such as cocoa, coffee etc with their agro industries.

Then livestock ranches which can start with goats for example. The wastes from the food agro industries can be used to feed the livestock.

As for the private sector, it's their own private business hence they should ranch their own animal. Either ranch your animal or forget it. It's not by force to rear animal. No one is disturbing others with his pig farming for example. The pigs are ranched by their owners and they're not disturbing others with their pigs.

As a matter of fact, Nigeria is an ethnography country. Hence, no criminal should come to another region to inconvenient the aborigine with his backward retarded criminal practice. Simple as ABC.

Dsimmer:
More reason why state governments need to go into farming.

Personally, I don't see why each state government don't have its own state farm and agro industries. Food crops such as cassava, Palm etc with their agro processing factories/industries to produce the end products. And cash crops such as cocoa, coffee etc with their agro industries.

Then livestock ranches which can start with goats for example. The wastes from the food agro industries can be used to feed the livestock.

As for the private sector, it's their own private business hence they should ranch their own animal. Either ranch your animal or forget it. It's not by force to rear animal. No one is disturbing others with his pig farming for example. The pigs are ranched by their owners and they're not disturbing others with their pigs.

As a matter of fact, Nigeria is an ethnography country. Hence, no criminal should come to another region to inconvenient the aborigine with his backward retarded criminal practice. Simple as ABC.

I have read all ur comment regarding this topic, and I can conclude that u are just plain stupid, rude, hungry and angry dumbass, who allowed emotion's to becloud his judgement. People like FreeStuffs, mynnd,helinus have shared there opinions Professionally without emotional attachment or bias against orthers. Just come out openly and say u hate Fulani that is all, not resorting to all sorts of abuse and throwing tantrums in a faceless forum which is childish and act of cowardice. If u know much why can't u contest for senator or president and go there to enact laws that ban grazing? Its foolishness to put ur attention on some Nigerians while ur non backward parents are killing ur brothers bcs of eating last potion of food, ur people are so much hungry. Ipob has ransack ur people 2by2 shops, ur sisters cannot go and write waec and all this are not ur concerne u the indegineous Nigerians.

raskymonojendor:
So the National Assembly should not discuss about cattles and open grazing? If they discuss about it, then the Fulanis will keep pushing their cows everywhere. A country without laws?

The fellow quoted, is it that he’s ignorant or he’s always deliberately mischievous?

System202:
I have read all ur comment regarding this topic, and I can conclude that u are just plain stupid, rude, hungry and angry dumbass, who allowed emotion's to becloud his judgement. People like FreeStuffs, mynnd,helinus have shared there opinions Professionally without emotional attachment or bias against orthers. Just come out openly and say u hate Fulani that is all, not resorting to all sorts of abuse and throwing tantrums in a faceless forum which is childish and act of cowardice. If u know much why can't u contest for senator or president and go there to enact laws that ban grazing? Its foolishness to put ur attention on some Nigerians while ur non backward parents are killing ur brothers bcs of eating last potion of food, ur people are so much hungry. Ipob has ransack ur people 2by2 shops, ur sisters cannot go and write waec and all this are not ur concerne u the indegineous Nigerians.

See tears and wailing just because backward retrogressive retarded criminals are asked to stop their criminality, be civilized and also respect their host.

It's like you're mad!

As I stated already, no pig farmer is disturbing others with his pig farming for example which is a private business. Livestock farming is a private business hence anyone going into it must ranch his animal. Simple as ABC! It's not by force to go into Livestock farming if you can't do it in the right civilized way. Stop inconveniencing and harming others with your backward nonsense because all that barbaric nonsense isn't livestock farming but criminal activity.

Mynd44:
They are not debating cow, they are debating the beef and dairy industry which is a multi-billion industry and affects the lives of millions it also employs thousands of people.

You can't just over-simpkify it to be cow

The debate was on herding and nomadic approach for cattle rearing.

They were not debating anything related to dairy or beef industry

Notice that it's agbado bandits who are advocating for the Fulani terrorists masquerading as herdsmen, none of them is even talking about the bloody carnage those people inflict anywhere they go. Fear agbado 27 times a day

Dsimmer:
See tears and wailing just because backward retrogressive retarded criminals are asked to stop their criminality, be civilized and also respect their host.

It's like you're mad!

As I stated already, no pig farmer is disturbing others with his pig farming for example which is a private business. Livestock farming is a private business hence anyone going into it must ranch his animal. Simple as ABC! It's not by force to go into Livestock farming if you can't do it in the right civilized way. Stop inconveniencing and harming others with your backward nonsense because all that barbaric nonsense isn't livestock farming but criminal activity.

shut up, useless frustrated bingo, u will continue to be angry and upset about the herdsmen and u will not be able to do anything about it. Herdmen are also Nigerians and they gave more stake in this government that u wailing wailers. Wait for Obi that u all supportted to come and remove herdmen from Nigeria. How can u be taking of civilization when u can afford a cup of gari, meat is out of ur league u baby factory bastard.

Mynd44:
They are not debating cow, they are debating the beef and dairy industry which is a multi-billion industry and affects the lives of millions it also employs thousands of people.

You can't just over-simpkify it to be cow

Succinctly stated.

The by-products of the dairy industry alone are more profitable globally (in terms of return on investment) than just selling cow meat got from cows that have been herded over several kilometers in search of grazing land by uncultured and intolerant Fulani herders from countries in the Sahelian regions of West Africa.

Dairy farms have to be set up in the far-Northern parts of Nigeria by industrialists just like the dairy companies such as WAMCO have done in the Western part of Nigeria where cattle owners sell fresh cow milk to the dairy milk processors in Oyo State.