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Very often I am presented with two claims.

Claim #1: The Qur’an copied from the Bible
Claim #2: The Qur’an is a manual for violence.

Those who make these claims do not seem to understand that the only possible conclusion in which both these claims can be true is if the Qur’an’s “violent” verses were copied from the Bible. To help those who hate us understand this point, I often ask the question:

Did the Qur’an Copy the Bible’s Violence?

Quite often the answer is no. Yet if the author of the Qur’an did create a religion for the purpose of warfare, genocide and terrorism, and if this author was copying from the Bible then it stands to reason that the Qur’an at the very least should contain some or most of the Bible’s most violent verses. Yet this is not the case. In fact, the most violent verse in the Bible is not matched by any verse of the Qur’an:

“However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes.” – Deuteronomy 20:16 (NIV)

It would seem very strange that the author of the Qur’an (assuming it is not God as Christians claim) would create a religion for the purpose of warfare and copy from the Bible, while at the same time avoiding copying any verses which allow for violence. Surely, a religion created for the purpose of warfare which had the Bible available for source material would quote the most violent verse possible to support its ideology, yet we find no equal verse to Deuteronomy 20:16 in the Qur’an, or a verse more violent than it altogether.

On the other hand, the Qur’an echoes a teaching once given to a previous messenger (or messengers) to the Children of Israel:

“That is why We ordained for the Children of Israel that whoever takes a life—unless as a punishment for murder or mischief in the land—it will be as if they killed all of humanity; and whoever saves a life, it will be as if they saved all of humanity.” – Qur’an 5:32 (translation by Dr. Mustafa Khattab).

and Allah knows best.

By Ijaz Ahmad

AntiChristian:
Very often I am presented with two claims.

Claim #1: The Qur’an copied from the Bible
Claim #2: The Qur’an is a manual for violence.

Those who make these claims do not seem to understand that the only possible conclusion in which both these claims can be true is if the Qur’an’s “violent” verses were copied from the Bible. To help those who hate us understand this point, I often ask the question:

Did the Qur’an Copy the Bible’s Violence?

Quite often the answer is no. Yet if the author of the Qur’an did create a religion for the purpose of warfare, genocide and terrorism, and if this author was copying from the Bible then it stands to reason that the Qur’an at the very least should contain some or most of the Bible’s most violent verses. Yet this is not the case. In fact, the most violent verse in the Bible is not matched by any verse of the Qur’an:

“However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes.” – Deuteronomy 20:16 (NIV)

It would seem very strange that the author of the Qur’an (assuming it is not God as Christians claim) would create a religion for the purpose of warfare and copy from the Bible, while at the same time avoiding copying any verses which allow for violence. Surely, a religion created for the purpose of warfare which had the Bible available for source material would quote the most violent verse possible to support its ideology, yet we find no equal verse to Deuteronomy 20:16 in the Qur’an, or a verse more violent than it altogether.

On the other hand, the Qur’an echoes a teaching once given to a previous messenger (or messengers) to the Children of Israel:

“That is why We ordained for the Children of Israel that whoever takes a life—unless as a punishment for murder or mischief in the land—it will be as if they killed all of humanity; and whoever saves a life, it will be as if they saved all of humanity.” – Qur’an 5:32 (translation by Dr. Mustafa Khattab).

and Allah knows best.

By Ijaz Ahmad

The Qur'an is a book made by man with all the signatures of the work of a 6th century Arabian man. It is a book of deceit and 419 set up to enrich Mohammed and the leaders of the Muslims.

Quran as said earlier even by the Meccans is a collection of tales of the ancients mixed with tales from the people of the book.

Did The Qur’an Copy The Bible’s Violence?

TenQ:
The Qur'an is a book made by man with all the signatures of the work of a 6th century Arabian man. It is a book of deceit and 419 set up to enrich Mohammed and the leaders of the Muslims.

Quran as said earlier even by the Meccans is a collection of tales of the ancients mixed with tales from the people of the book.

K.

AntiChristian:
Did The Qur’an Copy The Bible’s Violence?



K.

Slam your head on the ground a million times you will discover that you have been scammed by the antichrist himself.
Did Allah not decived Iblis?
This same Allah has succeeded in misleading you.

No wonder Allah promised you Muslims will end up in hell fire: you cannot escape it

AntiChristian:
Very often I am presented with two claims.

Claim #1: The Qur’an copied from the Bible
Claim #2: The Qur’an is a manual for violence.

Those who make these claims do not seem to understand that the only possible conclusion in which both these claims can be true is if the Qur’an’s “violent” verses were copied from the Bible. To help those who hate us understand this point, I often ask the question:

Did the Qur’an Copy the Bible’s Violence?

Quite often the answer is no. Yet if the author of the Qur’an did create a religion for the purpose of warfare, genocide and terrorism, and if this author was copying from the Bible then it stands to reason that the Qur’an at the very least should contain some or most of the Bible’s most violent verses. Yet this is not the case. In fact, the most violent verse in the Bible is not matched by any verse of the Qur’an:

“However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes.” – Deuteronomy 20:16 (NIV)

It would seem very strange that the author of the Qur’an (assuming it is not God as Christians claim) would create a religion for the purpose of warfare and copy from the Bible, while at the same time avoiding copying any verses which allow for violence. Surely, a religion created for the purpose of warfare which had the Bible available for source material would quote the most violent verse possible to support its ideology, yet we find no equal verse to Deuteronomy 20:16 in the Qur’an, or a verse more violent than it altogether.

On the other hand, the Qur’an echoes a teaching once given to a previous messenger (or messengers) to the Children of Israel:

“That is why We ordained for the Children of Israel that whoever takes a life—unless as a punishment for murder or mischief in the land—it will be as if they killed all of humanity; and whoever saves a life, it will be as if they saved all of humanity.” – Qur’an 5:32 (translation by Dr. Mustafa Khattab).

and Allah knows best.

By Ijaz Ahmad

Liar.

When Mohammed was killing innocent people, did he forget this ayat?


If you study the historical facts surrounding this ayat, you would discover that Mohammed was not sincere.

He didn't copy any Bible. He was motivated by greed, sex and power. These are his Allah and Jubril that gave him revelation.

Sexlam
Lielam

MightySparrow:
Liar.

When Mohammed was killing innocent people, did he forget this ayat?


If you study the historical facts surrounding this ayat, you would discover that Mohammed was not sincere.

He didn't copy any Bible. He was motivated by greed, sex and power. These are his Allah and Jubril that gave him revelation.

Sexlam
Lielam

So what do we call your Yahweh that was given 32 virgins of war booty after killing their families in Numbers 31?
You sabi derail thread when you have nothing upstairs!

TenQ:
Slam your head on the ground a million times you will discover that you have been scammed by the antichrist himself.
Did Allah not decived Iblis?
This same Allah has succeeded in misleading you.

No wonder Allah promised you Muslims will end up in hell fire: you cannot escape it

Yeah i will slam my head like Jesus too did!

I slam my head!
Jesus slammed his head too!
We all slam our head in Islam!

Going a little farther, he (Jesus) slam his face on the ground and prayed, Matthew 26:39

AntiChristian:
So what do we call your Yahweh that was given 32 virgins of war booty after killing their families in Numbers 31?
You sabi derail thread when you have nothing upstairs!

Antichristian will totori die in Sexlam's Al - jaanah. Paraga and d burantashi will be cheap die. . You will dig boreholes tire.

TenQ:
The Qur'an is a book made by man with all the signatures of the work of a 6th century Arabian man. It is a book of deceit and 419 set up to enrich Mohammed and the leaders of the Muslims.

Quran as said earlier even by the Meccans is a collection of tales of the ancients mixed with tales from the people of the book.

Muhammad (SAW) wasn't a rich man. He went hungry many times.

TenQ:
Slam your head on the ground a million times you will discover that you have been scammed by the antichrist himself.
Did Allah not decived Iblis?
This same Allah has succeeded in misleading you.

No wonder Allah promised you Muslims will end up in hell fire: you cannot escape it

May Allah punish you with intense pain for one week for this blasphemy, so you will be careful what you say to Muslims.

MightySparrow:
Liar.

When Mohammed was killing innocent people, did he forget this ayat?


If you study the historical facts surrounding this ayat, you would discover that Mohammed was not sincere.

He didn't copy any Bible. He was motivated by greed, sex and power. These are his Allah and Jubril that gave him revelation.

Sexlam
Lielam

May Allah punish you with abject poverty for three years for this blasphemy. If you are already poor, may you get poorer. May your affairs start going down from the moment you see this post. Ameen.
This is the prayer of a devout Muslim against you for slandering the prophet and insulting Muslims (me included).

AntiChristian:
So what do we call your Yahweh that was given 32 virgins of war booty after killing their families in Numbers 31?
You sabi derail thread when you have nothing upstairs!

Brother, refrain from insulting their religion. God has many names. Almost all languages have a name for God. Yahweh, I believe, is one of his names. Allah is also his name. So, do not make derogatory statements against the names by which Christians call God. Try to not insult their religion no matter the level of provocations. It's not Islamically acceptable to abuse other people's religion.
Just a brotherly advice.

TenQ:
Slam your head on the ground a million times you will discover that you have been scammed by the antichrist himself.
Did Allah not decived Iblis?
This same Allah has succeeded in misleading you.

No wonder Allah promised you Muslims will end up in hell fire: you cannot escape it

You should tell us the religion the Jesus brought to earth
You should tell us the religion the Jesus did on this Earth

DuaWorrior:
May Allah punish you with abject poverty for three years for this blasphemy. If you are already poor, may you get poorer. May your affairs start going down from the moment you see this post. Ameen.
This is the prayer of a devout Muslim against you for slandering the prophet and insulting Muslims (me included).

Nonsense, ...he that blesses me is blessed; he that curses me is cursed. There is no divination against Jacob neither is there any enchantment against Israel. As for me, it shall be said, this is what the Lord is doing.


Warn your people to stop posting nonsense against Christian faith. The thing pains you abi? Is there any Surah or ayat in your Quran that encourages criticizing or twisting Christian scriptures?
If you don't have respect for my religion, this is what you get in return.

My apology goes to Muslims that tout the beauty of Islam not a riffraff like you and few others like you on Nairaland and around the world.

You post any nonsense about my religion, I will give it to you quantum.

DuaWorrior:
Brother, refrain from insulting their religion. God has many names. Almost all languages have a name for God. Yahweh, I believe, is one of his names. Allah is also his name. So, do not make derogatory statements against the names by which Christians call God. Try to not insult their religion no matter the level of provocations. It's not Islamically acceptable to abuse other people's religion.
Just a brotherly advice.

Thanks so much. I am trying but this holy spirit filled people will always step on my legs with abuse all the time!

AntiChristian:
Yeah i will slam my head like Jesus too did!

I slam my head!
Jesus slammed his head too!
We all slam our head in Islam!

Going a little farther, he (Jesus) slam his face on the ground and prayed, Matthew 26:39

You slam your head While facing the black stone in the Kaaba!? What an Irony!

Is the Black stone your prophet kissed not at the Kaaba?
Is the Black stone not your intercessor on the day of judgment?


Quran 19:71-72 already condemn you. There is no escape from hell to you unless you open your eyes , learn the truth. Allah is satan and Mohammed is one of the main antichrists. A 419 whose stomach has mislead you.

Here are Muslims like you who slam their faces on the ground for their deities

MightySparrow:
Nonsense, ...he that blesses me is blessed; he that curses me is cursed. There is no divination against Jacob neither is there any enchantment against Israel. As for me, it shall be said, this is what the Lord is doing.


Warn your people to stop posting nonsense against Christian faith. The thing pains you abi? Is there any Surah or ayat in your Quran that encourages criticizing or twisting Christian scriptures?
If you don't have respect for my religion, this is what you get in return.

My apology goes to Muslims that tout the beauty of Islam not a riffraff like you and few others like you on Nairaland and around the world.

You post any nonsense about my religion, I will give it to you quantum.

I made this prayer because you insulted me an another two billion people worldwide when you post absolute garbage about our religon. Go through my posts and you won't find a single insult against Christians and Christianity. For your information, my mother is a Christian. Her father was a pastor who worked with missionaries. Half of my relations are Christians. We grew up together as kids, ate in the same dish, slept on the same bed, and we still help one another today. If a problem befalls me, my Christian cousins will work harder than my Muslim friends to help me. similarly, I and my Muslim siblings contribute more money than their Chrisitian friends in church whenever one of my Christian cousins needs financial help for school, medical treatment, etc. So, why would I insult Christians and Christianity? We can disagree with one another respectably. But when you start to call Muhammad (SAW) possessed or Allah possessed, or Muslims terrorists, then you are going beyond the limit because you can't prove any of that. You can't find a single historical or scientific findings or investigation reports to support those accusations. This is what makes such accusations offensive. And by doing that, you actually infringe upon our rights and we can pray against you and the prayers will be accepted because you wronged us deliberately (not a mistake). It is because I do not want to wrong any Christians that I'm careful what I say about them, their religion, or their holy book. I don't want any Christian putting a curse on me for wrongfully hurting his/her feelings . . . because such curses may very well take effect.
If one Muslim insults you or your faith, direct your insult at him without targetting the entire Muslim population. They didn't send that Muslim to insult you or your religion.
If you can promise to not insult Muslims or their faith without any solid basis again, I'll reverse the curese, otherwise it stays and let's see if it takes effect or not.

AntiChristian:
Thanks so much. I am trying but this holy spirit filled people will always step on my legs with abuse all the time!

May Allah help us against his enemies and our enemies. I understand the level of Islamophobia on Nairaland is frightening. Makes me wonder whether the religion section is only for Christians. You'd read 10 insults against Muslims before you read one against Christians. This tells who the aggressors are. But we must always remember that there are peace loving and respectable Christians on the forum too. I've seen a lot of their civilized arguments, even though they are mostly wrong. Just remember these Christians who debate in a civilized manner whenever you want to reply to an inflammatory statement by one of the low IQ lots on here.

DuaWorrior:
I made this prayer because you insulted me an another two billion people worldwide when you post absolute garbage about our religon. Go through my posts and you won't find a single insult against Christians and Christianity. For your information, my mother is a Christian. Her father was a pastor who worked with missionaries. Half of my relations are Christians. We grew up together as kids, ate in the same dish, slept on the same bed, and we still help one another today. If a problem befalls me, my Christian cousins will work harder than my Muslim friends to help me. similarly, I and my Muslim siblings contribute more money than their Chrisitian friends in church whenever one of my Christian cousins needs financial help for school, medical treatment, etc. So, why would I insult Christians and Christianity? We can disagree with one another respectably. But when you start to call Muhammad (SAW) possessed or Allah possessed, or Muslims terrorists, then you are going beyond the limit because you can't prove any of that. You can't find a single historical or scientific findings or investigation reports to support those accusations. This is what makes such accusations offensive. And by doing that, you actually infringe upon our rights and we can pray against you and the prayers will be accepted because you wronged us deliberately (not a mistake). It is because I do not want to wrong any Christians that I'm careful what I say about them, their religion, or their holy book. I don't want any Christian putting a curse on me for wrongfully hurting his/her feelings . . . because such curses may very well take effect.
If one Muslim insults you or your faith, direct your insult at him without targetting the entire Muslim population. They didn't send that Muslim to insult you or your religion.
If you can promise to not insult Muslims or their faith without any solid basis again, I'll reverse the curese, otherwise it stays and let's see if it takes effect or not.

Beautiful you. You don't need to curse. Just tell your people to stop insulting Christians and Christian faith. To some decent people like you, accept my apology.


To those errant idiots, there is no way they will not attract mudslinging to you people.

They should just come here and preach the beauty of Islam. I have Muslims as well in my family. We live together peacefully and respectfully.

Antichristian, AbuTwins and few others love to throw jabs at us. Please tell them, they are your brothers. They should respect us and our religion.

Again, to all decent Muslims on Nairaland, accept my apology

MightySparrow:
Beautiful you. You don't need to curse. Just tell your people to stop insulting Christians and Christian faith. To some decent people like you, accept my apology.


To those errant idiots, there is no way they will not attract mudslinging to you people.

They should just come here and preach the beauty of Islam. I have Muslims as well in my family. We live together peacefully and respectfully.

Antichristian, AbuTwins and few others love to throw jabs at us. Please tell them, they are your brothers. They should respect us and our religion.

Again, to all decent Muslims on Nairaland, accept my apology

Apology accepted. I reverse my curse, and my Allah rectify your affairs. Have wonderful night.

DuaWorrior:
I made this prayer because you insulted me an another two billion people worldwide when you post absolute garbage about our religon. Go through my posts and you won't find a single insult against Christians and Christianity. For your information, my mother is a Christian. Her father was a pastor who worked with missionaries. Half of my relations are Christians. We grew up together as kids, ate in the same dish, slept on the same bed, and we still help one another today. If a problem befalls me, my Christian cousins will work harder than my Muslim friends to help me. similarly, I and my Muslim siblings contribute more money than their Chrisitian friends in church whenever one of my Christian cousins needs financial help for school, medical treatment, etc. So, why would I insult Christians and Christianity? We can disagree with one another respectably. But when you start to call Muhammad (SAW) possessed or Allah possessed, or Muslims terrorists, then you are going beyond the limit because you can't prove any of that. You can't find a single historical or scientific findings or investigation reports to support those accusations. This is what makes such accusations offensive. And by doing that, you actually infringe upon our rights and we can pray against you and the prayers will be accepted because you wronged us deliberately (not a mistake). It is because I do not want to wrong any Christians that I'm careful what I say about them, their religion, or their holy book. I don't want any Christian putting a curse on me for wrongfully hurting his/her feelings . . . because such curses may very well take effect.
If one Muslim insults you or your faith, direct your insult at him without targetting the entire Muslim population. They didn't send that Muslim to insult you or your religion.
If you can promise to not insult Muslims or their faith without any solid basis again, I'll reverse the curese, otherwise it stays and let's see if it takes effect or not.

I think you are assuming too much especially about the highlighted.
Mohammed isn't who you think he is
What if I can show you historical evidences from your Islamic sources, will you take it seriously?

Expanse2020:
You should tell us the religion the Jesus brought to earth
You should tell us the religion the Jesus did on this Earth

Jesus did not bring any religion on earth.
Religion is what man does in the hopes of pleasing their God.

With evidence, tell me the name of the religion of Moses or Zahariah or David or Solomon or Isaac or Jacob!

DuaWorrior:
May Allah punish you with intense pain for one week for this blasphemy, so you will be careful what you say to Muslims.

If you want to know, Allah is satan himself feigning to be Yahweh the God of Israel.

Jesus raises the Dead by the command of His voice BUT Allah needs the carcass of a cow to do the same: is this your God?
Why is Allah not different in attribute from shaitan?

DuaWorrior:
Muhammad (SAW) wasn't a rich man. He went hungry many times.

1. It seems you do not know that 20% of the spoils of a battle is for mohammed
2. If Mohammed was not a rich man, how come he has several slaves feeding from his household?
3. Mohammed was not a rich man, tell me what he does for a living other than spoils of war?

If you need evidence, I will oblige you sir!

DuaWorrior:
Apology accepted. I reverse my curse, and my Allah rectify your affairs. Have wonderful night.

Cool brother. You are welcome.

I really salute you.
A Muslim indeed.

DuaWorrior:
May Allah punish you with intense pain for one week for this blasphemy, so you will be careful what you say to Muslims.

See exactly how Islam unhindered is

Expanse2020:
You should tell us the religion the Jesus brought to earth
You should tell us the religion the Jesus did on this Earth

Come and see the Muslim faithfuls doing what they know how to do best.

And you think this is from God!?

AntiChristian:
Did The Qur’an Copy The Bible’s Violence?



K.

Behold your brothers in Islam: the religion of peace (only when you are dead)!

TenQ:
Behold your brothers in Islam: the religion of peace (only when you are dead)!

May Allah punish you and them together!

TenQ:
You slam your head While facing the black stone in the Kaaba!? What an Irony!

Is the Black stone your prophet kissed not at the Kaaba?
Is the Black stone not your intercessor on the day of judgment?


Quran 19:71-72 already condemn you. There is no escape from hell to you unless you open your eyes , learn the truth. Allah is satan and Mohammed is one of the main antichrists. A 419 whose stomach has mislead you.

Here are Muslims like you who slam their faces on the ground for their deities

Muslims don't have their elbows touch their knees!
And anyway you look at it na prostration!
Jesus slammed his face like us!

AntiChristian:
May Allah punish you and them together!

Of course, Lives does not matter to you as a Muslim.
May Allah do what!?
I laugh at both you ,your prophet and your Allah to scorn!
You think I am alone!?
I bear the Mark of God in Christ and I am always surrounded by His Angels.

What power do you think Allah has over me?
Zero! Not in this world nor the next!

How do you expect me to be terrified of the him when he can only raise the dead by using the carcass of a Cow!

The truth is bitter!

AntiChristian:
Muslims don't have their elbows touch their knees!
And anyway you look at it na prostration!
Jesus slammed his face like us!

I have shown you your main criteria for a Muslim: head slamming before an object.
Do you slam heads? Yes!
Do you face the Kaaba and the black stone? Yes!

I get it, "Muslims don't have their elbows touch their knees", can you show with evidence that Jesus did not have His elbows touch His knees?

BTW:
Your fellow Muslim attached: Is his hands touching his knees?