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Re: Did The Qur’an Copy The Bible’s Violence? by AntiChristian(op): 11:25am On Jun 08, 2024
TenQ:
I have shown you your main criteria for a Muslim: head slamming before an object.
Do you slam heads? Yes!
Do you face the Kaaba and the black stone? Yes!

I get it, "Muslims don't have their elbows touch their knees", can you show with evidence that Jesus did not have His elbows touch His knees?

BTW:
Your fellow Muslim attached: Is his hands touching his knees?
But what we have in the picture is not how Muslims from the time of Muhammad perform Sujud!
Jesus too head-slammed for his God as we do for same God!
Re: Did The Qur’an Copy The Bible’s Violence? by AntiChristian(op): 11:26am On Jun 08, 2024
TenQ:
Of course, Lives does not matter to you as a Muslim.
May Allah do what!?
I laugh at both you ,your prophet and your Allah to scorn!
You think I am alone!?
I bear the Mark of God in Christ and I am always surrounded by His Angels.

What power do you think Allah has over me?
Zero! Not in this world nor the next!

How do you expect me to be terrified of the him when he can only raise the dead by using the carcass of a Cow!

The truth is bitter!
You will soon die like Jesus!
You never reach 33!
Re: Did The Qur’an Copy The Bible’s Violence? by Expanse2020(m): 12:38pm On Jun 08, 2024
TenQ:
Come and see the Muslim faithfuls doing what they know how to do best.

And you think this is from God!?
Your brother in South East de do d same so stop crying
Re: Did The Qur’an Copy The Bible’s Violence? by Expanse2020(m): 1:00pm On Jun 08, 2024
TenQ:
Jesus did not bring any religion on earth.
Religion is what man does in the hopes of pleasing their God.


With evidence, tell me the name of the religion of Moses or Zahariah or David or Solomon or Isaac or Jacob!
Starting from the forefather
Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian, but he was one inclining toward truth, a Muslim [submitting to Allāh]. And he was not of the polytheists. (imron 67)

“Indeed, We have revealed to you, as We revealed to Noah and the prophets after him. And we revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, the Descendants, Jesus, Job, Jonah, Aaron, and Solomon, and to David We gave the book.” (Holy Qur’an 4:163)

“And We gave to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob - all We guided. And Noah, We guided before; and among his descendants, David and Solomon and Job and Joseph and Moses and Aaron. Thus do We reward the doers of good.” (The Holy Qur’an 6:84)

What did they called people for to WORSHIP ONLY ONE GOD to submit yourself to the almighty God.
And who are the submitters MUSLIM..
JESUS WAS NEVER A CHRISTIAN OR WORSHIP HIMSELF OR TOLD PEOPLE TO WORSHIP HIM ..
HE DIDNT SAID YOU SHOULD WORSHIPS 3 IN 1 NETCAFE ..

MAY ALMIGHTY GUIDE SO THAT YOU DONT DIE ON THAT MISLEADING PATH... IF you die on it toor.. wá gbà inside the grave
Re: Did The Qur’an Copy The Bible’s Violence? by TenQ: 5:06pm On Jun 08, 2024
AntiChristian:
But what we have in the picture is not how Muslims from the time of Muhammad perform Sujud!
Jesus too head-slammed for his God as we do for same God!
Then you must admit using the same criteria that the Buddhists are Muslims. They slam heads don't they?
Re: Did The Qur’an Copy The Bible’s Violence? by TenQ: 5:11pm On Jun 08, 2024
AntiChristian:
You will soon die like Jesus!
You never reach 33!
As a Christian, I am not afraid to die. Death is home coming for me. I can only die when it is my TIME: other than this , no Allah not Muslim nor anyone have power of my life.

Too bad, it is you who is afraid to die. Quran 19:71-72 says what happens to you. You must first stay in hell fire only to discover that Allah has no power to remove you from your imprisonment!

Too bad, as Allah misled Iblis, you have also been mislead
Re: Did The Qur’an Copy The Bible’s Violence? by TenQ: 5:14pm On Jun 08, 2024
Expanse2020:
Your brother in South East de do d same so stop crying
In the name of who!?
Certainly not Jesus.

But your people relish killing and destroying others as a mark of obedience to both Allah and his messanger
Re: Did The Qur’an Copy The Bible’s Violence? by TenQ: 5:23pm On Jun 08, 2024
Expanse2020:
Starting from the forefather
Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian, but he was one inclining toward truth, a Muslim [submitting to Allāh]. And he was not of the polytheists. (imron 67)

“Indeed, We have revealed to you, as We revealed to Noah and the prophets after him. And we revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, the Descendants, Jesus, Job, Jonah, Aaron, and Solomon, and to David We gave the book.” (Holy Qur’an 4:163)

“And We gave to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob - all We guided. And Noah, We guided before; and among his descendants, David and Solomon and Job and Joseph and Moses and Aaron. Thus do We reward the doers of good.” (The Holy Qur’an 6:84)

What did they called people for to WORSHIP ONLY ONE GOD to submit yourself to the almighty God.
And who are the submitters MUSLIM..
JESUS WAS NEVER A CHRISTIAN OR WORSHIP HIMSELF OR TOLD PEOPLE TO WORSHIP HIM ..
HE DIDNT SAID YOU SHOULD WORSHIPS 3 IN 1 NETCAFE ..

MAY ALMIGHTY GUIDE SO THAT YOU DONT DIE ON THAT MISLEADING PATH... IF you die on it toor.. wá gbà inside the grave
What is the name of the Religion brought by Abraham? What is your evidence?

What is the name of the Religion brought by Moses? What is your evidence?

What is the name of the Religion brought by Adam? What is your evidence?

Talk is cheap!
You can claim all you want, but it doesn't make it the truth!

You are the one who is mislead.
This is why Islam has to be propped up with cascades of lies to exist.

You claim that Allah is unlike anything in creation, yet every characteristics of Allah is not different from that of Iblis.

Ask yourself this Question:
1. Why's did Allah send Jesus to the world only to destroy the message of Christ and creating Christianity?
2. Why was Jesus without a human father? What was Allah trying to achieve?
3. Why is it that Jesus is the only human who creates life as Allah?
4. Why is it that Jesus is the only human with Allah and he is alive for more than 2000 years now?

You don't know BUT you wouldn't ask.
Re: Did The Qur’an Copy The Bible’s Violence? by AntiChristian(op): 6:28pm On Jun 08, 2024
TenQ:
As a Christian, I am not afraid to die. Death is home coming for me. I can only die when it is my TIME: other than this , no Allah not Muslim nor anyone have power of my life.

Too bad, it is you who is afraid to die. Quran 19:71-72 says what happens to you. You must first stay in hell fire only to discover that Allah has no power to remove you from your imprisonment!

Too bad, as Allah misled Iblis, you have also been mislead
We are trying our best to prepare for death! There's no use being afraid of what will come eventually and can even come at any time!

If one of your Gods can die others can too!
Allah is far above all such description!
Re: Did The Qur’an Copy The Bible’s Violence? by AntiChristian(op): 6:33pm On Jun 08, 2024
TenQ:
Then you must admit using the same criteria that the Buddhists are Muslims. They slam heads don't they?
Yeah, right! They are theist too!
Re: Did The Qur’an Copy The Bible’s Violence? by TenQ: 7:14pm On Jun 08, 2024
AntiChristian:
Yeah, right! They are theist too!
They are Muslims because they slam their heads on the ground towards an object. In your case, the Cube in Mecca
Re: Did The Qur’an Copy The Bible’s Violence? by TenQ: 7:17pm On Jun 08, 2024
AntiChristian:
We are trying our best to prepare for death! There's no use being afraid of what will come eventually and can even come at any time!

If one of your Gods can die others can too!
Allah is far above all such description!
So why threaten a person who is saved by God with death: isn't it a lame threat?

It is you who need to be afraid of death: do you have an assurance of salvation?


Quran 19:71
وَإِن مِّنكُمۡ إِلَّا وَارِدُهَاۚ كَانَ عَلَىٰ رَبِّكَ حَتۡمٗا مَّقۡضِيّٗا
There is not one of you who will not go down to it (the fire), that is a fixed Decree of your Lord


This should scare you my friend!

Why will God first have to temporarily put some people in hell fire with the hope of removing them later?

This is a deceit of satan.
Re: Did The Qur’an Copy The Bible’s Violence? by AntiChristian(op): 12:29am On Jun 09, 2024
TenQ:
So why threaten a person who is saved by God with death: isn't it a lame threat?

It is you who need to be afraid of death: do you have an assurance of salvation?


Quran 19:71
وَإِن مِّنكُمۡ إِلَّا وَارِدُهَاۚ كَانَ عَلَىٰ رَبِّكَ حَتۡمٗا مَّقۡضِيّٗا
There is not one of you who will not go down to it (the fire), that is a fixed Decree of your Lord


This should scare you my friend!

Why will God first have to temporarily put some people in hell fire with the hope of removing them later?

This is a deceit of satan.
Foolishness is quoting the Qur'an like John 3:16 without context!

Death doesn't save anyone!
After death it's the grave and judgement!
You thought you're saved!

Wait till you die!
Re: Did The Qur’an Copy The Bible’s Violence? by TenQ: 7:28am On Jun 09, 2024
Is Death annihilation in Islam?

AntiChristian:
Foolishness is quoting the Qur'an like John 3:16 without context!

Death doesn't save anyone!
After death it's the grave and judgement!
You thought you're saved!

Wait till you die!
Why don't you explain the context of
Quran 19:71-72
وَإِن مِّنكُمۡ إِلَّا وَارِدُهَاۚ كَانَ عَلَىٰ رَبِّكَ حَتۡمٗا مَّقۡضِيّٗا
There is not one of you who will not go down to it (the fire), that is a fixed Decree of your Lord .....


You can't escape going to hell fire until Allah later remove you probably after a million years.

This should scare you. Why should you first enter hell before Allah removes you?


You have not answered:
Why will God first have to temporarily put some people in hell fire with the hope of removing them later?

This is a deceit of satan.
Re: Did The Qur’an Copy The Bible’s Violence? by Iamanoited: 8:27am On Jun 09, 2024
NO.
THE LORD IS ONE, THE QURAN TEACHES.
THE QURAN DOESN'T TEACH THE PHILOSOPHY TO UNDERSTAND THE ONENESS OF THE LORD.

ORISA37
THE QURAN DOESN'T TEACH THE EVOLUTION THAT THE BOOK OF GENESIS TEACHES.
THE QURAN DOESN'T KNOW NOTHING CONCERNING LORD, LORDGOD AND GOD.
Re: Did The Qur’an Copy The Bible’s Violence? by AntiChristian(op): 8:27am On Jun 09, 2024
TenQ:
Is Death annihilation in Islam?


Why don't you explain the context of
Quran 19:71-72
وَإِن مِّنكُمۡ إِلَّا وَارِدُهَاۚ كَانَ عَلَىٰ رَبِّكَ حَتۡمٗا مَّقۡضِيّٗا
There is not one of you who will not go down to it (the fire), that is a fixed Decree of your Lord .....


You can't escape going to hell fire until Allah later remove you probably after a million years.

This should scare you. Why should you first enter hell before Allah removes you?


You have not answered:
Why will God first have to temporarily put some people in hell fire with the hope of removing them later?

This is a deceit of satan.
Give the context of the verse!
When your Jesus die where did he go? Paradise or hell?
Re: Did The Qur’an Copy The Bible’s Violence? by Expanse2020(m): 9:26am On Jun 09, 2024
TenQ:
What is the name of the Religion brought by Abraham? What is your evidence?

I know you are blind to see the religion of Abraham in the quoted Quran verse..
Abraham was neither a Jew nor a Christian, but he was one inclining toward truth,[i] a Muslim [submitting to Allāh]. And he was not of the polytheists. (imron 67)[/b]

What is the name of the Religion brought by Moses? What is your evidence? [/b]What given to Abraham was given David, Solomon, Moses, Jesus (which is submitted yourself to only true God ) don't worship idols, don't carve a status and call it God...
Only true (one) God.. it's not 2,3,4,5 but only a supreme being





Ask yourself this Question:
1. Why's did Allah send Jesus to the world only to destroy the message of Christ and creating Christianity? JESUS was only sent to Jew to tell them worship only 1 God and he didn't create Christianity, there is no where in the bible that Jesus called his followers Christianity stop lying

2. Why was Jesus without a human father? What was Allah trying to achieve? It's be and it's be of Allah, tell me who is the father and Mother of Adam..were Adam (A.S) was born a woman because all for in the same categories as human being (PLEASE I DEMAND ANSWER FOR THIS QUESTION)

3. Why is it that Jesus is the only human who creates life as Allah? Allah give him his own charisma to do it just like other different prophets... So tell because he summon a bird and what are you going to do if it was human being he created 🤣🤣🤣
Ordinary magician de summon birds,cats, goat so tell me a big deal about that
4. Why is it that Jesus is the only human with Allah and he is alive for more than 2000 years now? Not Only Jesus is in heaven,, there another prophets who goes to heaven with there body and there others who still leav on this Earth but cannot see with our eyes...if Satan is still leaving till today what will you said about that did Satan win Jesus and that why Jesus run to the heavenly father to hide🤣


You don't know BUT you wouldn't ask.
If Jesus is a God he should have stop what happened to him on the cross said by the bible
He should have told Judas that you will betrayed me and remove him from the 12 disciples (because of the unrighteous act)

If Jesus was a God he would have to people to worship him only
If Jesus was a God he would have descent on the earth but not by birth..(Abi when he was a kid who is controlling the earth that time)
Find answers to that first
Re: Did The Qur’an Copy The Bible’s Violence? by TenQ: 9:41am On Jun 09, 2024
Expanse2020:
If Jesus is a God he should have stop what happened to him on the cross said by the bible
He should have told Judas that you will betrayed me and remove him from the 12 disciples (because of the unrighteous act)

If Jesus was a God he would have to people to worship him only
If Jesus was a God he would have descent on the earth but not by birth..(Abi when he was a kid who is controlling the earth that time)
Find answers to that first
You think you have the right or power to decide what God can do or what He cannot do?

Muslims are always creating Allah according to their imagination. This is why you wouldn't recognise Allah when he came to you Muslims in another shape other than you want him to be.

Sahih al-Bukhari 6573
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Some people said, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! Shall we see our Lord on the Day of Resurrection?" He said, "Do you crowd and squeeze each other on looking at the sun when it is not hidden by clouds?" They replied, "No, Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)." He said, "Do you crowd and squeeze each other on looking at the moon when it is full and not hidden by clouds?" They replied, No, O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)!" He said, "So you will see Him (your Lord) on the Day of Resurrection similarly Allah will gather all the people and say, 'Whoever used to worship anything should follow that thing. 'So, he who used to worship the sun, will follow it, and he who used to worship the moon will follow it, and he who used to worship false deities will follow them; and then only this nation (i.e., Muslims) will remain, including their hypocrites. Allah will come to them in a shape other than they know and will say, 'I am your Lord.' They will say, 'We seek refuge with Allah from you. This is our place; (we will not follow you) till our Lord comes to us, and when our Lord comes to us, we will recognize Him. Then Allah will come to then in a shape they know and will say, "I am your Lord.' They will say, '(No doubt) You are our Lord,' and they will follow Him. Then a bridge will be laid over the (Hell) Fire." Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) added, "I will be the first to cross it. And the invocation of the Apostles on that Day, will be 'Allahumma Sallim, Sallim (O Allah, save us, save us!),' and over that bridge there will be hooks Similar to the thorns of As Sa'dan (a thorny tree).....



1. By the way, which of these two shapes is real the shape of Allah?
2. Is Allah entering into his creation?
Re: Did The Qur’an Copy The Bible’s Violence? by Expanse2020(m): 10:04am On Jun 09, 2024
TenQ:
You think you have the right or power to decide what God can do or what He cannot do?

Muslims are always creating Allah according to their imagination. This is why you wouldn't recognise Allah when he came to you Muslims in another shape other than you want him to be.

Sahih al-Bukhari 6573
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Some people said, "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! Shall we see our Lord on the Day of Resurrection?" He said, "Do you crowd and squeeze each other on looking at the sun when it is not hidden by clouds?" They replied, "No, Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)." He said, "Do you crowd and squeeze each other on looking at the moon when it is full and not hidden by clouds?" They replied, No, O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)!" He said, "So you will see Him (your Lord) on the Day of Resurrection similarly Allah will gather all the people and say, 'Whoever used to worship anything should follow that thing. 'So, he who used to worship the sun, will follow it, and he who used to worship the moon will follow it, and he who used to worship false deities will follow them; and then only this nation (i.e., Muslims) will remain, including their hypocrites. Allah will come to them in a shape other than they know and will say, 'I am your Lord.' They will say, 'We seek refuge with Allah from you. This is our place; (we will not follow you) till our Lord comes to us, and when our Lord comes to us, we will recognize Him. Then Allah will come to then in a shape they know and will say, "I am your Lord.' They will say, '(No doubt) You are our Lord,' and they will follow Him. Then a bridge will be laid over the (Hell) Fire." Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) added, "I will be the first to cross it. And the invocation of the Apostles on that Day, will be 'Allahumma Sallim, Sallim (O Allah, save us, save us!),' and over that bridge there will be hooks Similar to the thorns of As Sa'dan (a thorny tree).....



1. By the way, which of these two shapes is real the shape of Allah?
2. Is Allah entering into his creation?
Are you that daft that you cannot understand English again...
The hadiths said when Allah shows some of people what they were worship during the resurrection day, every each people will follow what they worship (Sun,Moon, Scripture of 3 in 1, water, snake,Bull) but only Muslim will remain standing, then another shape will appear and the Muslim will said we seek refuge from this creation from Allah only then Allah will appear on his own true form and said I am your lord which you used to worship...

So what confuses you about simple English..
But Jesus will denied you because you are doing another thing to what he brought during his time... He didn't clap, sing,dance, he didn't false people to paid or instruct them to pay it
He doesn't told you to worship 3in 1 rather didn't call himself a God..It's inside the both bible and Quran that he will denied you..

PLEASE ANSWERS THOSE QUESTIONS I ASKED YOU EARLIER
Re: Did The Qur’an Copy The Bible’s Violence? by TenQ: 10:16am On Jun 09, 2024
Expanse2020:
Are you that daft that you cannot understand English again...
The hadiths said when Allah shows some of people what they were worship during the resurrection day, every each people will follow what they worship (Sun,Moon, Scripture of 3 in 1, water, snake,Bull) but only Muslim will remain standing, then another shape will appear and the Muslim will said we seek refuge from this creation from Allah only then Allah will appear on his own true form and said I am your lord which you used to worship...

So what confuses you about simple English..
But Jesus will denied you because you are doing another thing to what he brought during his time... He didn't clap, sing,dance, he didn't false people to paid or instruct them to pay it
He doesn't told you to worship 3in 1 rather didn't call himself a God..It's inside the both bible and Quran that he will denied you..

PLEASE ANSWERS THOSE QUESTIONS I ASKED YOU EARLIER
Focus on the highlights in Yellow.
1. Did Allah change his shape or not?
2. Did he take permission from you Muslims to change his shape?
3. By the way, which of these two shapes is real the shape of Allah?
2/4. Is Allah entering into his creation?
Re: Did The Qur’an Copy The Bible’s Violence? by Expanse2020(m): 10:58am On Jun 09, 2024
TenQ:
Focus on the highlights in Yellow.
1. Did Allah change his shape or not?
2. Did he take permission from you Muslims to change his shape?
3. By the way, which of these two shapes is real the shape of Allah?
2/4. Is Allah entering into his creation?
Read the hadiths back and read my answer. It's there already


I asked you a questions you didn't answer any of it...it is only a coward will see questions and not answer it.. You have been asking questions try to answer this too if you have balls

If Jesus is a God he should have stop what happened to him on the cross said by the bible

He should have told Judas that you will betrayed me and remove him from the 12 disciples (because of the unrighteous act)

Why did Jesus didn't told people all this event I listed

If Jesus was a God he would have to people to worship him only

If Jesus was a God he would have descent on the earth but not by birth..(Abi when he was a kid who is controlling the earth that time)

Why was Jesus without a human father? What was Allah trying to achieve? It's be and it's be of Allah,

tell me who is the father and Mother of Adam..were Adam (A.S) was born from a woman because all us are in the same categories as human being (PLEASE I DEMAND ANSWER FOR THIS QUESTION)
Re: Did The Qur’an Copy The Bible’s Violence? by TenQ: 12:20pm On Jun 09, 2024
Expanse2020:
Read the hadiths back and read my answer. It's there already


I asked you a questions you didn't answer any of it...it is only a coward will see questions and not answer it.. You have been asking questions try to answer this too if you have balls

If Jesus is a God he should have stop what happened to him on the cross said by the bible

He should have told Judas that you will betrayed me and remove him from the 12 disciples (because of the unrighteous act)

Why did Jesus didn't told people all this event I listed

If Jesus was a God he would have to people to worship him only

If Jesus was a God he would have descent on the earth but not by birth..(Abi when he was a kid who is controlling the earth that time)

Why was Jesus without a human father? What was Allah trying to achieve? It's be and it's be of Allah,

tell me who is the father and Mother of Adam..were Adam (A.S) was born from a woman because all us are in the same categories as human being (PLEASE I DEMAND ANSWER FOR THIS QUESTION)
You think Jesus should have stopped his crucifixion if He was God,
Do you have the power to decide what God will or will not do?
When Allah changed his shape, did he ask you for your permission?
Is it beneath Allah to change into another shape other than his real shape?

Don't change the topic.
Address these points then we can go to to wherever you want


Focus on the highlights in Yellow in the hadith.
1. Did Allah change his shape or not?
2. Did he take permission from you Muslims to change his shape?
3. By the way, which of these two shapes is real the shape of Allah?
4. Is Allah entering into his creation?


Are any of these untrue?
Re: Did The Qur’an Copy The Bible’s Violence? by Expanse2020(m): 1:13pm On Jun 09, 2024
[quote author=TenQ post=130380801]You think Jesus should have stopped his crucifixion if He was God,
Do you have the power to decide what God will or will not do?
When Allah changed his shape, did he ask you for your permission?
Is it beneath Allah to change into another shape other than his real shape?

Don't change the topic.
Address these points then we can go to to wherever you want


Focus on the highlights in Yellow in the hadith.
1. Did Allah change his shape or not?
2. Did he take permission from you Muslims to change his shape?
3. By the way, which of these two shapes is real the shape of Allah?
4. Is Allah entering into his creation?


Are any of these untrue?[/quote

The hadiths said when Allah shows some of people what they were worship during the resurrection day, every each people will follow what they worship (Sun,Moon, Scripture of 3 in 1, water, snake,Bull) but only Muslim will remain standing, then another shape will appear and the Muslim will said we seek refuge from this creation from Allah only then Allah will appear on his own true form and said I am your lord which you used to worship...
and we will glorify our Rabb...
When Jesus denied because you call him God not the prophet or the Messiah...

Oya answer my question if you have balls

I asked you a questions you didn't answer any of it...it is only a coward will see questions and not answer it.. You have been asking questions try to answer this too if you have balls

If Jesus is a God he should have stop what happened to him on the cross said by the bible

He should have told Judas that you will betrayed me and remove him from the 12 disciples (because of the unrighteous act)

Why did Jesus didn't told people all this event I listed

If Jesus was a God he would have to people to worship him only

If Jesus was a God he would have descent on the earth but not by birth..(Abi when he was a kid who is controlling the earth that time)

Why was Jesus without a human father? What was Allah trying to achieve? It's be and it's be of Allah,

tell me who is the father and Mother of Adam..were Adam (A.S) was born from a woman because all us are in the same categories as human being (PLEASE I DEMAND ANSWER FOR THIS QUESTION)
Re: Did The Qur’an Copy The Bible’s Violence? by TenQ: 1:22pm On Jun 09, 2024
[quote author=Expanse2020 post=130381510][/quote]You did not answer my Question and I have answered yours.

You determined that you have the power to decide what you think God can or cannot do. You cannot base your premise on falsehood and expect an answer based on it.

Who determined what God can or cannot do? Is it you? On what authority?

To test your sincerity, I brought you this hadith Sahih al-Bukhari 6573
Focus on the highlights in Yellow in the hadith quoted
1. Did Allah change his shape or not?
2. Did he take permission from you Muslims to change his shape?
3. By the way, which of these two shapes is real the shape of Allah?
4. Is Allah entering into his creation?




Did you read this in the Hadith
Sahih al-Bukhari 6573
Allah will come to them in a shape other than they know and will say, 'I am your Lord.' They will say, 'We seek refuge with Allah from you. This is our place; (we will not follow you) till our Lord comes to us, and when our Lord comes to us, we will recognize Him.

Who is the one who will come to you Muslims in a different shape?


Just as your insinuation,
If Allah is God, then he should not have changed his shape!


Do you agree with is statement above?
Re: Did The Qur’an Copy The Bible’s Violence? by SIRTee15: 1:41pm On Jun 09, 2024
AntiChristian:
Did The Qur’an Copy The Bible’s Violence?



K.
Unfortunately muhammed copied some old testament verses in the bible and put them inside koran without understanding the context of those biblical verses.
That's how Islam became an eternal violent religion while Christianity and Judaism has moved away from the old testament laws.
Re: Did The Qur’an Copy The Bible’s Violence? by Expanse2020(m): 1:58pm On Jun 09, 2024
TenQ:
You did not answer my Question and I have answered yours.

You determined that you have the power to decide what you think God can or cannot do. You cannot base your premise on falsehood and expect an answer based on it.

Who determined what God can or cannot do? Is it you? On what authority?

To test your sincerity, I brought you this hadith Sahih al-Bukhari 6573
Focus on the highlights in Yellow in the hadith quoted
1. Did Allah change his shape or not?
2. Did he take permission from you Muslims to change his shape?
3. By the way, which of these two shapes is real the shape of Allah?
4. Is Allah entering into his creation?
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Where is the answer provided by you to all those questions I posted there...
Highlights all the answers so that I can see it clearly 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Re: Did The Qur’an Copy The Bible’s Violence? by TenQ: 2:00pm On Jun 09, 2024
Expanse2020:
If Jesus was a God he would have descent on the earth but not by birth..(Abi when he was a kid who is controlling the earth that time)
Unlike Allah,
*God is everywhere as a Spirit
*God is on His throne in Heaven as the Father
*God is His word which became Jesus here on earth.

In other words, Jesus being a baby did not Change the nature of the Omnipresence, Omnipotent and Omniscient nature of God.

Can Allah enter his creation without ceasing to be God!



Expanse2020:
Why was Jesus without a human father?
If he had a human father, he would have been a human being like the rest of us.
If Jesus had a human father, he would have needed freedom from the sin of Adam and Eve.
If Jesus had a human father, he would have been a sinner Luke the rest of us and therefore cannot atone for the sins of others.

In Islam, what is the wisdom from Allah that Jesus shouldn't have a Father?



Expanse2020:
What was Allah trying to achieve? It's be and it's be of Allah,
You will tell me about Allah.

But the Father made Jesus unique because
1. Jesus was to be the Atonement and Ransome for our guilt of Sin against the integrity of God.
2. If He was our ransom, he must be perfect and without sin.

What was Allah trying to achieve by
1. Making Jesus a co-creator of Life with Allah (Jesus created a bird exactly as Allah created Adam)
2. Jesus did not have a Father: why?
(even though there was no reason for it).
If there is , please say it.
3. Jesus is the only human being raised up to Allah (above the 7th heaven): why?
4. Jesus is the only one called "Spirit of Allah" and the "Word of Allah": why?
5. Jesus is the only prophet who knows what a man hides in his house (this is the power Allah alone should possess): why?





Expanse2020:
tell me who is the father and Mother of Adam..were Adam (A.S) was born from a woman because all us are in the same categories as human being (PLEASE I DEMAND ANSWER FOR THIS QUESTION)
Adam and Eve couldn't have a Father or mother because no single human being existed. Hence, God took the clay/mud and moulded them before breathing into them.
Re: Did The Qur’an Copy The Bible’s Violence? by TenQ: 2:01pm On Jun 09, 2024
Expanse2020:
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Where is the answer provided by you to all those questions I posted there...
Highlights all the answers so that I can see it clearly 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Your questions have been answered:

To test your sincerity, I brought you this hadith Sahih al-Bukhari 6573
Focus on the highlights in Yellow in the hadith quoted
1. Did Allah change his shape or not?
2. Did he take permission from you Muslims to change his shape?
3. By the way, which of these two shapes is real the shape of Allah?
4. Is Allah entering into his creation?
Re: Did The Qur’an Copy The Bible’s Violence? by Expanse2020(m): 2:15pm On Jun 09, 2024
TenQ:
Unlike Allah,
*God is everywhere as a Spirit
*God is on His throne in Heaven as the Father
*God is His word which became Jesus here on earth.

In other words, Jesus being a baby did not Change the nature of the Omnipresence, Omnipotent and Omniscient nature of God.

Can Allah enter his creation without ceasing to be God!
[b]Allah said am nearer and responsive (So he didn't need to come to this earth to settled things but it did everywhere as possible

In another verse Allah said am near you more than your jugular vein [/b] so he doesn't need to enter human form to do it work ....just like it doesn't need to animals, ants others to do whatever he need to do[/b]



If he had a human father, he would have been a human being like the rest of us.
If Jesus had a human father, he would have needed freedom from the sin of Adam and Eve.
If Jesus had a human father, he would have been a sinner Luke the rest of us and therefore cannot atone for the sins of others.

In Islam, what is the wisdom from Allah that Jesus shouldn't have a Father?




You will tell me about Allah.

But the Father made Jesus unique because
1. Jesus was to be the Atonement and Ransome for our guilt of Sin against the integrity of God.
2. If He was our ransom, he must be perfect and without sin.

What was Allah trying to achieve by
1. Making Jesus a co-creator of Life with Allah (Jesus created a bird exactly as Allah created Adam)
2. Jesus did not have a Father: why?
(even though there was no reason for it).
If there is , please say it.
3. Jesus is the only human being raised up to Allah (above the 7th heaven): why?
4. Jesus is the only one called "Spirit of Allah" and the "Word of Allah": why?
5. Jesus is the only prophet who knows what a man hides in his house (this is the power Allah alone should possess): why?






Adam and Eve couldn't have a Father or mother because no single human being existed. Hence, God took the clay/mud and moulded them before breathing into them.
So if you that Adam and eve didn't have parents so what is the big deal about the one who has only mother... atleast he had a mother to cater for him when he can't do anything on his own... And you call that God.. he was breast feeding when he was a toddler just like me and you and you call it God.

Are you tell me Jesus was the only one raised to heaven what of Elijah 🤣🤣
Re: Did The Qur’an Copy The Bible’s Violence? by Expanse2020(m): 2:35pm On Jun 09, 2024
TenQ:
Your questions have been answered:

To test your sincerity, I brought you this hadith Sahih al-Bukhari 6573
Focus on the highlights in Yellow in the hadith quoted
1. Did Allah change his shape or not?
Show me where Allah change his shape in the Quran too and if not he didn't change shape.
He doesn't need to change his form to come down to do anything. He is capable of everything from his throne.

2. Did he take permission from you Muslims to change his shape? He never take permission from anything ever rather in his jesture he will asked us form him to reveal himself in the best form visible to human being....
It's also in your bible when Moses asked to see God in his visible being... He didn't see him rather he fainted ..
JESUS also said my father no naked eyes have ever see or heard...
BUT HE PROMISE WE MUSLIM HE WILL REVEAL HIMSELF IN THE BEST FORM FOR US TO SEE IT.

3. By the way, which of these two shapes is real the shape of Allah?
Which shape are you talking about (Jesus shape or what🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣)
4. Is Allah entering into his creation?
he doesn't need to enter his creation to do anything for on this earth...
Re: Did The Qur’an Copy The Bible’s Violence? by TenQ: 2:45pm On Jun 09, 2024
Expanse2020:
So if you that Adam and eve didn't have parents so what is the big deal about the one who has only mother... atleast he had a mother to cater for him when he can't do anything on his own... And you call that God.. he was breast feeding when he was a toddler just like me and you and you call it God.

Are you tell me Jesus was the only one raised to heaven what of Elijah 🤣🤣
See how you avoided answering my questions after I answered Allah yours.

It's a big deal that Jesus didn't have a human Father except you can state exactly what Allah was trying to achieve!
If you can't, then you have no case!

Did Elijah go to heaven according to Islamic doctrines?
Even if he did, that is not the issue except you can find anyone else who has a combination of unique miracles all accumulated in a single person.
According to Islam
1. Jesus alone had a mother without a Father
2. Jesus alone is a co-creator of Life with Allah
3. Jesus is the only one one who Allah took to himself (above the seventh heaven)
4. Jesus is the only one who went bodily to heaven without passing through death.
5. Jesus is the only spirit of Allah and the only word of Allah
6. Jesus is the only one who spoke as a baby (meaning that he wasn't truly a baby)


Just find me any human being that has one quarter of this characteristics.



Unfortunately, you refused to answer my questions for the same questions you asked me.


Is it because, they don't have any answer in Islam?
Re: Did The Qur’an Copy The Bible’s Violence? by TenQ: 2:46pm On Jun 09, 2024
Expanse2020:
he doesn't need to enter his creation to do anything for on this earth...
This is not the question:

Does Allah have the power to enter his creation without ceasing to be God?

It's a simple question!
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