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It Will Take Another War To Bring Back Regions by gidgiddy(op):
If Nigeria can go back to semi-autonomous Region's that are financially independent of government, control their resources and internal security, it will be a good thing

But who is fooling who? The clamour for Regionalism is largely a Southern Nigerian thing, nobody in the North wants it. But beyond that, people have forgotten that it took a civil war to remove Regionalism, and it may require war to bring it back

In 1967 Yakubu Gowon abolished the 4 Region's Nigeria had and created 12 states to replace them. In retaliation, Ojukwu declared Biafra.
It was not until the war ended that the states Gowon created became fully operational.

I have no doubt that those who fought war to remove Regionalism will fight again to see it never comes back.
Re: It Will Take Another War To Bring Back Regions by MrProlific95: 6:36pm On Jun 08, 2024
Tinubu is threatening those who are trying to remind him of next election base on some of his actions.

With the media floating of reverting back to regionalism, hes simply saying do your worst but it will be mutually assured destruction.

2/3rd majority concurrence of all states houses of assembly is needed because this is a constitutional matter plus national assembly which is by simple majority.

but virtually all southern states assemblies will vote in support of it and require 7 Northern State to become effective through the constitution and which Northern states would those be?
Re: It Will Take Another War To Bring Back Regions by undiplomatic: 6:57pm On Jun 08, 2024
MrProlific95:
Tinubu is threatening those who are trying to remind him of next election base on some of his actions.

With the media floating of reverting back to regionalism, hes simply saying do your worst but it will be mutually assured destruction.

2/3rd majority concurrence of all states houses of assembly is needed because this is a constitutional matter plus national assembly which is by simple majority.

but virtually all southern states assemblies will vote in support of it and require 7 Northern State to become effective through the constitution and which Northern states would those be?
It will be a very hard nut to crack, if the entire 17 southern states supports the return to Regionalism, it will be difficult getting the support of an additional 7 Northern states to make up for a total of 24 states required for the constitutional change.
Re: It Will Take Another War To Bring Back Regions by helinues:
That bill of regional whatever go tey for both senate and HOR .

It's not matured yet. Even states within region hardly work together not to talk of some states which can't match up with the other states in the same region .

Let each state put their acts together, let's states within region start partnership development projects, that's when the bill would be feasible
Re: It Will Take Another War To Bring Back Regions by TooMuchStuff: 7:07pm On Jun 08, 2024
it's very easy peazy to get 7 Northern states to concur

Plateau
Taraba
kwara
kogi
Nasarawa
Benue
Adamawa

These states except Kwara have non Muslim majority.
Any act of going back to regionalism is basically hinged on Ethnoreligious difference.
Remember, that Hausa Fulani Kanuri Muslims north are the leprous fingers in the mixed....
Get them out to get a prosperous nation void of killings kidnapping terrorists and jihadists
Re: It Will Take Another War To Bring Back Regions by paramakina202: 7:08pm On Jun 08, 2024
gidgiddy:
If Nigeria can go back semi-autonomous Region's that are financially independent of government, control their resources and internal security, it will be a good thing

But who is fooling who? The clamour for Regionalism is largely a Southern Nigerian thing, nobody in the North wants it. But beyond that, people have forgotten that it took a civil war to remove Regionalism, and it may require war to bring it back

In 1967 Yakubu Gowon abolished the 4 Region's Nigeria had and created 12 states to replace them. In retaliation, Ojukwu declared Biafra.
It was not until the war ended that the states Gowon created became fully operational.

I have no doubt that those who fought war to remove Regionalism will fight again to see it never comes back.
But you believe you can get Biafra that was defeated in battlefield back without war?
Who is the fool here?
Re: It Will Take Another War To Bring Back Regions by Esama: 7:09pm On Jun 08, 2024
When a igbo man remove separation claus from our constitution another igbo man still declared war on decentralize system of government. Who is enemy of Nigeria self.
Re: It Will Take Another War To Bring Back Regions by Macdeey: 7:12pm On Jun 08, 2024
Let's simply use that war to Divide ➗ Nigeria

Re: It Will Take Another War To Bring Back Regions by Jagaban2012: 7:18pm On Jun 08, 2024
Why is Hausa Fulani afraid of regionalism. ...is it because they are liability....it only takes a tribe that can't stand on it own to be afraid of these....

I'm very sure Niger- delta people will massively support regional government......

One.Nigeria is scam if.yoi doubt me ask any federal civil servant you know ....
Re: It Will Take Another War To Bring Back Regions by mrvitalis(m): 7:27pm On Jun 08, 2024
gidgiddy:
If Nigeria can go back to semi-autonomous Region's that are financially independent of government, control their resources and internal security, it will be a good thing

But who is fooling who? The clamour for Regionalism is largely a Southern Nigerian thing, nobody in the North wants it. But beyond that, people have forgotten that it took a civil war to remove Regionalism, and it may require war to bring it back

In 1967 Yakubu Gowon abolished the 4 Region's Nigeria had and created 12 states to replace them. In retaliation, Ojukwu declared Biafra.
It was not until the war ended that the states Gowon created became fully operational.

I have no doubt that those who fought war to remove Regionalism will fight again to see it never comes back.
Stop all this no body in the North wants it? So middle belt wont want it?

The only region against this is North West

At best is 4 vs 2 and you are telling me 2 would win 4 ?


The truth is this if you have a president that wants regional government he would achieve it and heavens wont fall

The last people that would want war in nigeria is North, they yhe Fulani know their wont survive it CAR would be child play
Re: It Will Take Another War To Bring Back Regions by Lindlady(f): 3:00am On Jun 09, 2024
helinues:
That bill of regional whatever go tey for both senate and HOR .

It's not matured yet. Even states within region hardly work together not to talk of some states which can't match up with the other states in the same region .

Let each state put their acts together, let's states within region start partnership development projects, that's when the bill would be visible
Need a job?
Re: It Will Take Another War To Bring Back Regions by Fortruth: 3:07am On Jun 09, 2024
gidgiddy:
If Nigeria can go back to semi-autonomous Region's that are financially independent of government, control their resources and internal security, it will be a good thing

But who is fooling who? The clamour for Regionalism is largely a Southern Nigerian thing, nobody in the North wants it. But beyond that, people have forgotten that it took a civil war to remove Regionalism, and it may require war to bring it back

In 1967 Yakubu Gowon abolished the 4 Region's Nigeria had and created 12 states to replace them. In retaliation, Ojukwu declared Biafra.
It was not until the war ended that the states Gowon created became fully operational.

I have no doubt that those who fought war to remove Regionalism will fight again to see it never comes back.
Gowon is a war criminal... and foolish for allowing OYIBO to toy with him....as a result an entire continent and race have been reduced to dancing and shaking nyash on the world stage via social media and music.

Even if you be doctor for Yankee, your Oyibo patients and even your black fellow folks "standing with you in brotherhood " lol don't even trust you or your knowledge.....

Shame on us all
Re: It Will Take Another War To Bring Back Regions by ebufa: 4:33am On Jun 09, 2024
gidgiddy:
If Nigeria can go back to semi-autonomous Region's that are financially independent of government, control their resources and internal security, it will be a good thing

But who is fooling who? The clamour for Regionalism is largely a Southern Nigerian thing, nobody in the North wants it. But beyond that, people have forgotten that it took a civil war to remove Regionalism, and it may require war to bring it back

In 1967 Yakubu Gowon abolished the 4 Region's Nigeria had and created 12 states to replace them. In retaliation, Ojukwu declared Biafra.
It was not until the war ended that the states Gowon created became fully operational.

I have no doubt that those who fought war to remove Regionalism will fight again to see it never comes back.
State police is an easier low hanging fruit to pick than a revert to regionalism, in fact it may be more impactful on the long run than the regionalism thing sef!
Re: It Will Take Another War To Bring Back Regions by DMerciful(m): 4:48am On Jun 09, 2024
Southern states will not support regionalism. They're silent now because they know its not possible.

You expect southern states to support the abolition of their states? Dey play
undiplomatic:
It will be a very hard nut to crack, if the entire 17 southern states supports the return to Regionalism, it will be difficult getting the support of an additional 7 Northern states to make up for a total of 24 states required for the constitutional change.
Re: It Will Take Another War To Bring Back Regions by DMerciful(m): 4:50am On Jun 09, 2024
I thought you guys dont like Igbos?
paramakina202:
But you believe you can get Biafra that was defeated in battlefield back without war?
Who is the fool here?
Re: It Will Take Another War To Bring Back Regions by raskymonojendor:
gidgiddy:
If Nigeria can go back to semi-autonomous Region's that are financially independent of government, control their resources and internal security, it will be a good thing

But who is fooling who? The clamour for Regionalism is largely a Southern Nigerian thing, nobody in the North wants it. But beyond that, people have forgotten that it took a civil war to remove Regionalism, and it may require war to bring it back

In 1967 Yakubu Gowon abolished the 4 Region's Nigeria had and created 12 states to replace them. In retaliation, Ojukwu declared Biafra.
It was not until the war ended that the states Gowon created became fully operational.

I have no doubt that those who fought war to remove Regionalism will fight again to see it never comes back.
What ought to be a good thread, you ended up trying to revise history at the same time. The coup led by Nzeogwu and Ironsi's unification decree No. 34 destroyed Regionalism. Gowon just finished off what Ironsi started with creation of the 12 states under decree No. 14.

Acting President Nwafor Orizu made a nationwide broadcast, after he had briefed President Nnamdi Azikiwe on the phone about the decision of the cabinet, announcing the cabinet's "voluntary" decision to transfer power to the armed forces. Major General Johnson Aguiyi-Ironsi then made his own broadcast, accepting the "invitation". On 17 January, Major General Ironsi established the Supreme Military Council in Lagos and effectively suspended the constitution.

This unfortunate event was later tagged an "igbo coup" by other ethnic groups in the country based on some chains of events:

i. The Killing patterns - only one of the 22 casualties is of Igbo origin, while notable Igbo politicians like the Premier of Eastern region and military personnel like Ironsi were unharmed.

ii. The handing over of the government to Ironsi by Orizu (the acting president and the senate president who could have called for the formation of another civilian government) made it look like it was planned out all along.

iii. The unification decree No 34 of May 1966 promulgated by Ironsi, leading to the abolition of regional system of government - Historically speaking, the West and North have always believed in the regional system of government as the best form of government for a multiethnic like Nigeria, however this was taken away by Ironsi, leading to a massive outrage and pogrom in the North.

iv. The coup plotters, though kept in jail but were not sentenced

Re: It Will Take Another War To Bring Back Regions by Godons1: 6:34am On Jun 09, 2024
gidgiddy:
If Nigeria can go back to semi-autonomous Region's that are financially independent of government, control their resources and internal security, it will be a good thing

But who is fooling who? The clamour for Regionalism is largely a Southern Nigerian thing, nobody in the North wants it. But beyond that, people have forgotten that it took a civil war to remove Regionalism, and it may require war to bring it back

In 1967 Yakubu Gowon abolished the 4 Region's Nigeria had and created 12 states to replace them. In retaliation, Ojukwu declared Biafra.
It was not until the war ended that the states Gowon created became fully operational.

I have no doubt that those who fought war to remove Regionalism will fight again to see it never comes back.
Hmmm.
Other regions contribute to the economy except the East. The North contribute over 40% to the GDP via Agriculture alone. South South contribute about 35% via Oil, South West contribute something too.

However, South East contribute nothing. As it has always been, it is South East that is solely dependant on FG.

Re: It Will Take Another War To Bring Back Regions by Goodvibes007: 6:49am On Jun 09, 2024
gidgiddy:
If Nigeria can go back to semi-autonomous Region's that are financially independent of government, control their resources and internal security, it will be a good thing

But who is fooling who? The clamour for Regionalism is largely a Southern Nigerian thing, nobody in the North wants it. But beyond that, people have forgotten that it took a civil war to remove Regionalism, and it may require war to bring it back

In 1967 Yakubu Gowon abolished the 4 Region's Nigeria had and created 12 states to replace them. In retaliation, Ojukwu declared Biafra.
It was not until the war ended that the states Gowon created became fully operational.

I have no doubt that those who fought war to remove Regionalism will fight again to see it never comes back.
Decree #34 by Ironsi destroyed regionalism. It was the decree that transferred all the autonomous power of the four regions then to the centre.

Before the military putsch of January 15, 1966, which ended the First Republic and foisted the first military rule on the country, Nigeria operated as a true federal state. The regions were strong and took full responsibility for determining their destinies.

Each region developed at its pace; each was responsible for generating its own resources, merely paying tax to the centre.

No region waited on the Federal Government for monthly handouts, No-one called on the Federal Government to fix any road, furnish any school or equip any hospital. The regions were responsible for determining their own affairs and by so doing contributed to the strengthening of the centre.

That was the only period in the history of Nigeria that we had it so good until it was destroyed.
Re: It Will Take Another War To Bring Back Regions by Mercenary123: 6:55am On Jun 09, 2024
Esama:
When a igbo man remove separation claus from our constitution another igbo man still declared war on decentralize system of government. Who is enemy of Nigeria self.
. This is why I love the igbos. Them too get mind

And for this fact, they are only the ones who can be courageous enough to revert Nigeria back to regionalism

I can't say the same with any other southern or northern tribe. Only the igbos are brave enough to do it. You yourself know this too
Re: It Will Take Another War To Bring Back Regions by StreetFight: 7:02am On Jun 09, 2024
gidgiddy:
If Nigeria can go back to semi-autonomous Region's that are financially independent of government, control their resources and internal security, it will be a good thing

But who is fooling who? The clamour for Regionalism is largely a Southern Nigerian thing, nobody in the North wants it. But beyond that, people have forgotten that it took a civil war to remove Regionalism, and it may require war to bring it back

In 1967 Yakubu Gowon abolished the 4 Region's Nigeria had and created 12 states to replace them. In retaliation, Ojukwu declared Biafra.
It was not until the war ended that the states Gowon created became fully operational.

I have no doubt that those who fought war to remove Regionalism will fight again to see it never comes back.
Major General Aguyi Ironsi abolished the Regional Government using the devilish Decree 34 of 1966. Stop telling lies so that Ogun no go kee you there.

Meanwhile if you start another senseless war, you will get the same treatment you got in your first senseless war
Re: It Will Take Another War To Bring Back Regions by Skooltynz: 7:05am On Jun 09, 2024
Then let there be war angry
Re: It Will Take Another War To Bring Back Regions by Skooltynz: 7:05am On Jun 09, 2024
Then let there be war! angry
Re: It Will Take Another War To Bring Back Regions by AcadaWriter: 7:19am On Jun 09, 2024
Let's simply use that war to Divide ➗ Nigeria
Re: It Will Take Another War To Bring Back Regions by Feldie: 8:45am On Jun 09, 2024
It didn't take civil war to remove regional govt. Southerners were the ones who abolished regional government
Re: It Will Take Another War To Bring Back Regions by gidgiddy(op): 9:00am On Jun 09, 2024
StreetFight:
Major General Aguyi Ironsi abolished the Regional Government using the devilish Decree 34 of 1966. Stop telling lies so that Ogun no go kee you there.

Meanwhile if you start another senseless war, you will get the same treatment you got in your first senseless war
Some day, Google Decree 34, read it, and find out that it is not true
Re: It Will Take Another War To Bring Back Regions by gidgiddy(op): 9:02am On Jun 09, 2024
Goodvibes007:
Decree #34 by Ironsi destroyed regionalism. It was the decree that transferred all the autonomous power of the four regions then to the centre.

Before the military putsch of January 15, 1966, which ended the First Republic and foisted the first military rule on the country, Nigeria operated as a true federal state. The regions were strong and took full responsibility for determining their destinies.

Each region developed at its pace; each was responsible for generating its own resources, merely paying tax to the centre.

No region waited on the Federal Government for monthly handouts, No-one called on the Federal Government to fix any road, furnish any school or equip any hospital. The regions were responsible for determining their own affairs and by so doing contributed to the strengthening of the centre.

That was the only period in the history of Nigeria that we had it so good until it was destroyed.
That means you have never read decree 34, it was nothing but a civil service decree
Re: It Will Take Another War To Bring Back Regions by gidgiddy(op): 9:05am On Jun 09, 2024
raskymonojendor:
What ought to be a good thread, you ended up trying to revise history at the same time. The coup led by Nzeogwu and Ironsi's unification decree No. 34 destroyed Regionalism. Gowon just finished off what Ironsi started with creation of the 12 states under decree No. 14.
Some day, use your phone and Google Decree 34, read it rather than read third party comment, and you will find out that decree 34 was just a civil service decree
Re: It Will Take Another War To Bring Back Regions by Anguldi(m): 9:11am On Jun 09, 2024
MrProlific95:
Tinubu is threatening those who are trying to remind him of next election base on some of his actions.

With the media floating of reverting back to regionalism, hes simply saying do your worst but it will be mutually assured destruction.

2/3rd majority concurrence of all states houses of assembly is needed because this is a constitutional matter plus national assembly which is by simple majority.

but virtually all southern states assemblies will vote in support of it and require 7 Northern State to become effective through the constitution and which Northern states would those be?
One thing I like about Tinubu is his daring exploits, ain't his fan though . I only wish his government will revive the economy. His street credibility is top notch
Re: It Will Take Another War To Bring Back Regions by Asebaba1(m): 9:15am On Jun 09, 2024
Gowon really finished this country, removing regional system is what brought Nigeria to this mess, he is the one that brought Naira which is depreciating daily, he built refinery that cannot refine Nigeria crude oil. Haba Gowon Thank God he kept you alive to see the effect of your decision as a young man.
Re: It Will Take Another War To Bring Back Regions by EmperorCaesar(m): 9:42am On Jun 09, 2024
Lindlady:
Need a job?
Try be creative abeg
It's getting stale already

Get a life yourself
Re: It Will Take Another War To Bring Back Regions by Maazieze(m): 10:09am On Jun 09, 2024
mrvitalis:
Stop all this no body in the North wants it? So middle belt wont want it?

The only region against this is North West

At best is 4 vs 2 and you are telling me 2 would win 4 ?


The truth is this if you have a president that wants regional government he would achieve it and heavens wont fall

The last people that would want war in nigeria is North, they yhe Fulani know their wont survive it CAR would be child play
People really should distinguish what they men by north when they say so, the middle belt has its own direction to take
Re: It Will Take Another War To Bring Back Regions by ElSudani: 11:03am On Jun 09, 2024
Mercenary123:
. This is why I love the igbos. Them too get mind

And for this fact, they are only the ones who can be courageous enough to revert Nigeria back to regionalism

I can't say the same with any other southern or northern tribe. Only the igbos are brave enough to do it. You yourself know this too
You are talking nonsense. The easiest thing in the world is to destroy things rather than build them. Ibo officers are responsible for destroying Nigeria.
We had a constitution similar to Australia and Canada, some of the countries many Nigerians would rather run to today.
Being foolhardy is different from bravery.
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