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10mobile:
Hello! I'm suing you for killing me. I just died laughing while reading this comment. Thank you (from the great beyond 🤣😭🤣😭)

Nigeria don taya person.

jayce232:
God bless u!
This is why I'm not even happy with NLC
I honestly think they didn't take the inflation & fuel subsidy removal thing seriously & that is the foundation of all these economy woes. Raising minimum wage is never solving anything because the increment is going to come with its own inflation & it is even going to be worse because of the imbalance, majority of Nigerians are not even on govt payroll. Tackling inflation & fuel price is the first step they should have taken before wage increment.

How long do you then think it will take to achieve a low/stable inflation rate. Fight for this, don't fight for that. Let's be realistic the only tenable fight NLC cud wield against this present notorious FG is increment in Minimum wage. Any other fight might take months for effectiveness or rather go unfulfilled/unfruitful

0001Lagos:
Tinubu is the worse president Nigeria ever had
.he's heartless

No Buhari is the worst. And for Tinubu, where still looking for English word to explain his terrible self. Using worse to qualify Tinubu is under statement

N62,000 is not enough and it can’t sustain a worker with family…. NLC and TUC needs to do better if Tinubu is serious then he should cut cost of governance and multiple taxation….

dre11:
° Blasts govs for rejecting N60,000; labels their action wicked

° Pay rise may not bode well for economy – Experts



https://thenationonlineng.net/minimum-wage-labour-awaits-tinubus-decision-on-n62000/

If NLC and TUC mistakenly or stylishly accept 62k from FG, then there have rubbished their reputation and respect to the floor.

How can you put the whole nation in total darkness, shutting down the airport in protest for a good minimum wage, only to return with 62,000. That will be the biggest shame ever.

Let's be watching...

LegendHero:
There is everything wrong with minimum wage. Forget the English, the labor union expect FG to set a minimum wage price and want all 36 state governor to just follow suit irrespective of state standing financially.

That is exactly why labor will demand 100k+ and expect a state like Zamfara to pay it because it is the minimum wage.

All of you just dey deceive unaself for this country. That’s why nothing get done.

NLC should rather start functioning state by state and start setting minimum wage for the states that will be enforceable and workable.

What is the brain behind setting minimum wage every X years and not all 36 state governors and private sector conform to the nonsense and yet we keep doing it again and again?

The hypocrisy of you agbado worshippers is preposterous as it is ridiculous. You guys have been shifting goalpost on every issue since your APC took control of the center. From fuel subsidy to borrowing to corruption to exchange rate, you have changed position on every issue.
Suddenly national minimum wage is no longer good. It should be state by state. For someone who claims to be a researcher, have you heard of the principle of collective bargaining in Labour matters? Which country in the world does not have a national minimum wage?
Nigeria has had national minimum wage since the 70s yet in 2024 that is a bad thing simply because your god is fumbling at it. Meanwhile you were also canvassing for Labour to leave fuel subsidy matter and canvass for minimum wage just last year. Now Labour should go to the states as if it is the states that removed fuel subsidy.
Any state or private sector that does not pay minimum wage is simply breaking the law. That is one law among retinue of laws routinely breached by states and I have not seen any of you say Local Govts should be scrapped because states don't allow them function. Instead you are asking for more power for the states in the name of restructuring and resource control.
How many states are up to date in pensions payment? Is it also because of minimum wage?

optimusprime2:
If the con3 doesn't apply paycuts to "certain people" the economy may not handle the new minimum wage without consequences

Therein lies a major problem. Some people feel it's ok for a set of people to be collecting above 20m monthly while others should agree to a meagre 62k a month. Not to talk about the wastages some use as govs etc

Something is wrong with us in this country.

Come make I give you small thing make you chop remain give obi 🤣🤣🤣😜😜😜

Phiniter:
I can assure you that Obi has eaten today. My guy have you eaten or is ebin paaying thee?

Obi still won't be president 😜😜😜😜😜🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

CrossRhodes:
You will still cry ebinpawaa oo

arinzos:
Why do you feel those from level 11 upwards don't need salary review. So when they go to the market they will tell the sellers; "I'm in level 11 upwards, and the sellers would sell cheaper to them."
Sometimes I try to understand where you guys get your comments from.

Trust me ,you do mot need a salary review base on the 100% been proposed highest to be add to your salary should not be more than 20k if the 100k been proposed is approved on all cadres..you salary increments will be useless in less than 2 months in the market ..we have tried this avenue before it didn't work,why try the samw thing over and over again and expect different result..

Kukutente23:
Una well done. It reach una god turn minimum wage became a bad thing. Fuel subsidy became evil. Devaluation of currency became a smart thing. And its not as if most of you are better off for it. Same NLC you used to occupy Ojota in 2012 should be banned now. The level 11 upwards have a special market different from those below them abi? The judges with 300% are not working in the same economy abi. The thunder that will fire you guys is still gathering muscle

my previous post on subsidy, floating are all there for you to see in my previous posts ..am an advocate for subsidy removal,naira floatation although we are not yet floating the naira fully...thats part of the current problems...this disaster that is looming with wage increments is a vicious cycle..and btw some of us are not fans of either your Obi,Atiku nor Tinubu..we are just Nigeria fans or citizen.

masseratti:
Trust me ,you do mot need a salary review base on the 100% been proposed highest to be add to your salary should not be more than 20k if the 100k been proposed is approved on all cadres..you salary increments will be useless in less than 2 months in the market ..we have tried this avenue before it didn't work,why try the samw thing over and over again and expect different result..

So what's the solution?

Kukutente23:
The hypocrisy of you agbado worshippers is preposterous as it is ridiculous. You guys have been shifting goalpost on every issue since your APC took control of the center. From fuel subsidy to borrowing to corruption to exchange rate, you have changed position on every issue.
Suddenly national minimum wage is no longer good. It should be state by state. For someone who claims to be a researcher, have you heard of the principle of collective bargaining in Labour matters? Which country in the world does not have a national minimum wage?
Nigeria has had national minimum wage since the 70s yet in 2024 that is a bad thing simply because your god is fumbling at it. Meanwhile you were also canvassing for Labour to leave fuel subsidy matter and canvass for minimum wage just last year. Now Labour should go to the states as if it is the states that removed fuel subsidy.
Any state or private sector that does not pay minimum wage is simply breaking the law. That is one law among retinue of laws routinely breached by states and I have not seen any of you say Local Govts should be scrapped because states don't allow them function. Instead you are asking for more power for the states in the name of restructuring and resource control.
How many states are up to date in pensions payment? Is it also because of minimum wage?

alot of countries in the world does not allow labor union to exist... minimum wage in the USA and uk was not in history canvass by unions but political stakeholders against feudal system and slavery..read your history I., google is ur friend.

arinzos:
So what's the solution?

the solution is to take the bull by the horns ..float the naira truly don't sell to some parties at one rate and others at another rate,let's work towards things that will reduce inflation. Increase productivity,the solution is not what I can be writing now .one of the reasons we are in this big shit is money printed in excess by CBN...over bloated political appointees....inflated contracts alot my oga ...lets not add wage increase to our problem and cause inflation.

masseratti:
my previous post on subsidy, floating are all there for you to see in my previous posts ..am an advocate for subsidy removal,naira floatation although we are not yet floating the naira fully...thats part of the current problems...this disaster that is looming with wage increments is a vicious cycle..and btw some of us are not fans of either your Obi,Atiku nor Tinubu..we are just Nigeria fans or citizen.

You mean you supported Jonathan's subsidy removal in 2012 or you're a latter day convert?
What exactly is the intended benefit of naira devaluation aka floatation
If you say wage increment is a vicious cycle, what do you think of 300% increment for judges and humongous wages and salaries of politicians? Are those not worse than the wage increment for civil servants yet I have not seen you rail against that

masseratti:
alot of countries in the world does not allow labor union to exist... minimum wage in the USA and uk was not in history canvass by unions but political stakeholders against feudal system and slavery..read your history I., google is ur friend.

Like which countries? Lemme know those countries that do not have labour unions.
What difference does it make how unions came about? The fact is minimum wage in the US was started by FDR in the 1930s in a bid to improve the working conditions of American workers. The idea still remains the same. The reality of Nigerian living costs presently demands that the wage be adjusted. Nigerians are living like paupers presently while the rulers are living like kings.

Kukutente23:
Like which countries? Lemme know those countries that do not have labour unions.
What difference does it make how unions came about? The fact is minimum wage in the US was started by FDR in the 1930s in a bid to improve the working conditions of American workers. The idea still remains the same. The reality of Nigerian living costs presently demands that the wage be adjusted. Nigerians are living like paupers presently while the rulers are living like kings.

new Zealand was the first to introduce minimum wage in 1800s not FDR stop quoting lies online..and yes alot of countries don't practice minimum wages.

Kukutente23:
You mean you supported Jonathan's subsidy removal in 2012 or you're a latter day convert?
What exactly is the intended benefit of naira devaluation aka floatation
If you say wage increment is a vicious cycle, what do you think of 300% increment for judges and humongous wages and salaries of politicians? Are those not worse than the wage increment for civil servants yet I have not seen you rail against that

if the subsidy is not for the poor am not in support...subsidize wheat and rice ..price of other things will crash ..price of indomie for the kids will crash , price for spaghetti will crash ,price for bread poor man food will go down ..that's whatsome countries do .not subsidy for fuel that is not being imported and a fraud ...yes I was never a fan for subsidy for fuel.most judges are beyond level 11,most government appointise are beyond level 11..they don't need any salary increase at all... governor security votes are actually illegal..its should be scrapped it's no where in the constitution, emoluments and salary of most political government officials should be reduced by 50%,that's my opinion.

masseratti:
if the subsidy is not for the poor am not in support...subsidize wheat and rice ..price of other things will crash ..price of indomie for the kids will crash , price for spaghetti will crash ,price for bread poor man food will go down ..that's whatsome countries do .not subsidy for fuel that is not being imported and a fraud ...yes I was never a fan for subsidy for fuel.most judges are beyond level 11,most government appointise are beyond level 11..they don't need any salary increase at all... governor security votes are actually illegal..its should be scrapped it's no where in the constitution, emoluments and salary of most political government officials should be reduced by 50%,that's my opinion.

Can you explain how subsidizing the price of wheat and rice will crash the price of other things? Rice, spaghetti and bread are not eaten by the poor alone. Besides, I can confidently say spaghetti and bread are not food for the poor in today's Nigeria. But what about the price of garri, beans, yam, animal protein, milk? How will subsidizing wheat and rice crash their prices? Also, fuel is not being imported? Are you sure or it's a typo? If subsidy on imported fuel can be fraudulent, what makes you think subsidy on imported wheat and rice will not attract same fraud?

Let me shock you. In today's Nigeria, Level 11 in federal service earn less than 200K as net monthly income. Do you really think less than 200k is fair wages for judges and appointees? If salary and emoluments of govt officials is reduced, how does that improve the condition of the common man?

masseratti:
new Zealand was the first to introduce minimum wage in 1800s not FDR stop quoting lies online..and yes alot of countries don't practice minimum wages.

FDR was the first govt to introduce minimum wage in the US. Read what I write carefully before calling me a liar. Kindly mention the countries that don't have minimum wage or you're simply lying

Kukutente23:
Can you explain how subsidizing the price of wheat and rice will crash the price of other things? Rice, spaghetti and bread are not eaten by the poor alone. Besides, I can confidently say spaghetti and bread are not food for the poor in today's Nigeria. But what about the price of garri, beans, yam, animal protein, milk? How will subsidizing wheat and rice crash their prices? Also, fuel is not being imported? Are you sure or it's a typo? If subsidy on imported fuel can be fraudulent, what makes you think subsidy on imported wheat and rice will not attract same fraud?

Let me shock you. In today's Nigeria, Level 11 in federal service earn less than 200K as net monthly income. Do you really think less than 200k is fair wages for judges and appointees? If salary and emoluments of govt officials is reduced, how does that improve the condition of the common man?

if price of things come down 200k has net income will be survivable for a level 11.

Have u noticed when new Yam comes out price of most food items also drop,try and notice basic food items like tomatoes, pepper,garri,meat they drop this year it's going to be high because farmers are just planting yam ..yam that is suppose to come out in July .. that's because the rain this year is coming late ,a good number of places on the country have not had rain this year,it's also one of the factors affecting the price of tomatoes late blossom of the fruit due to lack of rain and the insects affecting it .

Wheat is the most basic food source for most people all over the world .. Nigeria does nog have the capacity for it right now ,apart from rice wheat makes up the most basic food source.petrol subsidy was eazy for those claiming subsidy without buying nor supplying any petrol,wheat will be difficult, subsidy of the food items can come in different forms ..it might be zero tax, payment on metric tonnes imported ..yes I will note the corruption factors of Nigerian govt officials in anything but to me better subsidy on that than on petrol.

It remains to be seen if the labour leaders carry on with their threats or are bought over by the government. Nigerians are suffering.

Kukutente23:
Can you explain how subsidizing the price of wheat and rice will crash the price of other things? Rice, spaghetti and bread are not eaten by the poor alone. Besides, I can confidently say spaghetti and bread are not food for the poor in today's Nigeria. But what about the price of garri, beans, yam, animal protein, milk? How will subsidizing wheat and rice crash their prices? Also, fuel is not being imported? Are you sure or it's a typo? If subsidy on imported fuel can be fraudulent, what makes you think subsidy on imported wheat and rice will not attract same fraud?

Let me shock you. In today's Nigeria, Level 11 in federal service earn less than 200K as net monthly income. Do you really think less than 200k is fair wages for judges and appointees? If salary and emoluments of govt officials is reduced, how does that improve the condition of the common man?

I think you are discussing with a half literate person.

masseratti:
if price of things come down 200k has net income will be survivable for a level 11.

Have u noticed when new Yam comes out price of most food items also drop,try and notice basic food items like tomatoes, pepper,garri,meat they drop this year it's going to be high because farmers are just planting yam ..yam that is suppose to come out in July .. that's because the rain this year is coming late ,a good number of places on the country have not had rain this year,it's also one of the factors affecting the price of tomatoes late blossom of the fruit due to lack of rain and the insects affecting it .

Wheat is the most basic food source for most people all over the world .. Nigeria does nog have the capacity for it right now ,apart from rice wheat makes up the most basic food source.petrol subsidy was eazy for those claiming subsidy without buying nor supplying any petrol,wheat will be difficult, subsidy of the food items can come in different forms ..it might be zero tax, payment on metric tonnes imported ..yes I will note the corruption factors of Nigerian govt officials in anything but to me better subsidy on that than on petrol.

You started with an "IF". I don't think it's reasonable to fix workers salaries on "if"
Does it make sense to you that Nigeria in 2024 is still practicing subsistence, seasonal farming? Yet Tinubu and his minister claimed they are already doing 200 hectares of all year round farming. If the president and the cabinet can be using lies as a policy on food, you see why your "if" is empty?

How will it be difficult to claim subsidy on wheat? The fact is the subsidy removal has been a bad idea as I've always said from the time of Jonathan. Subsidy removal is a problem not a solution. Our politicians brainwashed the populace to think subsidy removal was for their benefit. Today, the elites are gaining more by increasing salaries, running costs, allowances etc, while sermonizing patience and goodness somewhere down the road. All the trumpeted palliatives ended up as audio. Now the minimum wage which is supposed to be the lifeline for workers is being trashed as well. What is now the gain of the generality of Nigerians in subsidy removal?

Kukutente23:
You started with an "IF". I don't think it's reasonable to fix workers salaries on "if"
Does it make sense to you that Nigeria in 2024 is still practicing subsistence, seasonal farming? Yet Tinubu and his minister claimed they are already doing 200 hectares of all year round farming. If the president and the cabinet can be using lies as a policy on food, you see why your "if" is empty?

How will it be difficult to claim subsidy on wheat? The fact is the subsidy removal has been a bad idea as I've always said from the time of Jonathan. Subsidy removal is a problem not a solution. Our politicians brainwashed the populace to think subsidy removal was for their benefit. Today, the elites are gaining more by increasing salaries, running costs, allowances etc, while sermonizing patience and goodness somewhere down the road. All the trumpeted palliatives ended up as audio. Now the minimum wage which is supposed to be the lifeline for workers is being trashed as well. What is now the gain of the generality of Nigerians in subsidy removal?

subsidizing a commodity came to be in Nigeria in the 80s the decade Nigeria economy started going down ..the USA subsidize their famers inputs not the products..the USA produce more corn than it needs the government subsidize it by buying it from the farmers same with soy beans.. Nigerian government subsidy is mainly for corrupt officials..infact subsidy came into petrol because the military government wanted a uniform price for the product all over the country..thats a very unwise move..if price of tomato in kano is cheaper than in PH why should price of petrol be the same in PH and Kano .. that's how subsidy came in ...remove it and focus on how to improve the value of the naira .. increasing wages now is not the solution and it has never worked.

You guys were criticizing labour because they withdrew their workers from national grid and now their morale is deflated.

They can't mobilize anymore, Nigerian masses f00lishly sided with govt because on national grid that collapses all the time

Honestey:
Still awaiting Tinunu decision on that take-let-me-rest peanut minimum wage?
Honestly I thought Labour had their own decision, but now they are awaiting Tinubu's own decision ?
If they knew they don't Have a threshold amount they would fight for as minimum wage, why wasting time instead of just telling government at all level to just dish out whatever they wanted in the first place?
TUC+NLC = Toothless dog

masseratti:
the solution is to take the bull by the horns ..float the naira truly don't sell to some parties at one rate and others at another rate,let's work towards things that will reduce inflation. Increase productivity,the solution is not what I can be writing now .one of the reasons we are in this big shit is money printed in excess by CBN...over bloated political appointees....inflated contracts alot my oga ...lets not add wage increase to our problem and cause inflation.

All these will take lots of time.

Apel147:
Obi still won't be president 😜😜😜😜😜🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

And you will keep on wailing till High BP finish you off

arinzos:
All these will take lots of time.

we don't have a choice.