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| Re: June 12th Holds No Good Memories For Us Igbos by EcoNews: 7:56am On Jun 13, 2024 |
Arthur Nzeribe gidgiddy: |
| Re: June 12th Holds No Good Memories For Us Igbos by confusedlady(f): 7:56am On Jun 13, 2024 |
gidgiddy:You can do that without your stock in trade of LIES,FALSEHOOD,INNUENDOS AND PROPAGANDA.....lol ![]() Let your ministers,governors, senators,assembly men, house of representatives members, local government chairmen and councillors come together to sponsor a bill for ammendment of the Nigerian constitution in order to insert the referendum clause.....anything other than this is illegal and unlawful.... |
| Re: June 12th Holds No Good Memories For Us Igbos by Thiefobi1: 7:58am On Jun 13, 2024 |
gidgiddy:Inform your representative to initiate the process. Your fore-father put everyone in this mess we are today. |
| Re: June 12th Holds No Good Memories For Us Igbos by ShinnBet: 8:04am On Jun 13, 2024 |
pazienza:This is what Arthur Nzeribe wrote in an OP-ED article he paid an entire page for in several national newspapers. You have been hating and envying Yorubas for a very long time since the days of Zik. This hatred and envy from Ibos is always a good thing because it's a warming that the Ibo are jealous of you and covet all that you have. I say that this envious coveting nature of Ibo is a good thing because the Ibo can never succeed in his criminal coveting of other people's land outside his blighted yeast. See what your useless Nzeribe paid good money to have printed in all major newspapers back in 1992.
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| Re: June 12th Holds No Good Memories For Us Igbos by gidgiddy(op): 9:25am On Jun 13, 2024 |
Thiefobi1:I don't know what is wrong with people like this. We have been fighting, blaming and killing each other since 1960, you are still looking for representatives before before we go our seperate ways and have peace? Were there any representatives when the British was creating Nigeria? Let us come together, agree that the union of Nigeria has been a disastrous failure, hold referendum or plebiscite, go our different ways, as was done in other countries like Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia. This fighting each other forever, looking for representatives, will do nobody any good, now or in the future |
| Re: June 12th Holds No Good Memories For Us Igbos by gidgiddy(op): 9:27am On Jun 13, 2024 |
confusedlady:I don't know what is wrong with people like this. We have been fighting, blaming and killing each other since 1960, you are still looking for Ministers, Governors and representatives before before we go our seperate ways and have peace? Were there any Ministers, Governors and representatives when the British was creating Nigeria? Let us come together, agree that the union of Nigeria has been a disastrous failure, hold referendum or plebiscite, go our different ways, as was done in other countries like Czechoslovakia and Yugoslavia. This fighting each other forever, looking for Governors and representatives, will do nobody any good, now or in the future |
| Re: June 12th Holds No Good Memories For Us Igbos by confusedlady(f): 9:41am On Jun 13, 2024 |
gidgiddy:Here you go with your LIES and MISCHIEF.....you and I know that any referendum talk as the constitution presently stands is ILLEGAL....Your fore bear the ultra unstable Nnamdi Azikiwe saw to that when he opposed the inclusion of referendum and seccessionist clauses in the first constitution. Your other Ibo fore bear the always inebriated Aguiyi Ironsi introduced the Unity government and abolished the true Federation.... Rather than Ibo to blame your inglorious fore bears you would rather blame Obafemi Awolowo or Bola Ahmed Tinubu for your misfortunes.....NEVER ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY....ALWAYS BLAME OTHERS..... Ibos will never ask for a referendum in the proper way because they are a duplicitous and mischievous people.....they want Biafra and they want Nigeria.....lol😆 Very greedy set of people who want Nnamdi Kanu's treason and terrorism as well as the repackaged fraud Peter Lamba Obi as Nigeria president....... ![]() |
| Re: June 12th Holds No Good Memories For Us Igbos by gidgiddy(op): 9:46am On Jun 13, 2024 |
confusedlady:Unity beggars and one Nigerianists, always looking for every reason to keep their long failed 'one Nigeria', and still complain about it |
| Re: June 12th Holds No Good Memories For Us Igbos by Thiefobi1: 10:09am On Jun 13, 2024 |
gidgiddy:The country you mention had successions clauses in their constitution which enable them to decide where they want to belong. Did Zik allowed the same No. Did ironsi and ojukwu allowed Niger delta successions No. You can't eat your cake and also have it. Till date no bill or clamour was raise by your representative to have referendum and exit the country. But their are bills flying around proposing additional state for same S.E is that not hypocrisy. |
| Re: June 12th Holds No Good Memories For Us Igbos by confusedlady(f): 10:10am On Jun 13, 2024 |
gidgiddy:Oga, I see you are talking to the man in the mirror...... No tribe is more of unity beggars than the Ibo.... Check your forebears one by one.....Azikiwe,Ironsi,Ekwueme,Ojukwu,and the guest in the kings prison Ekweremadu.....all are unity beggars..... ![]() |
| Re: June 12th Holds No Good Memories For Us Igbos by gidgiddy(op): 11:31am On Jun 13, 2024 |
Thiefobi1:Only a unity begger will be looking for secession clause before he can seperate from people he doesn't even like |
| Re: June 12th Holds No Good Memories For Us Igbos by Orinechi: 11:35am On Jun 13, 2024 |
gidgiddy:U lied all through. Stop writing what u know nothing about. |
| Re: June 12th Holds No Good Memories For Us Igbos by pazienza(m): 12:29pm On Jun 13, 2024 |
ShinnBet:Hubert Ogunde delivered his Yoruba Ronu Igbophobic speech as far back as 1950s. It's on record that Abiola had earlier said he can do without Igbos, a statement that prompted Nzeribe rebuttal. Additionally despite Abiola speech 48% of Igbos still voted for Abiola. Nzeribe has always been pro establishment, the man sold weapons to Nigeria during Biafran civil war. Moreover as I have shown, he wasn't chief among those who opposed Abiola ascension as the likes of Shonekan, etc were the ring leaders. Igbos don't have hate for Yorubas, we are too big for that. We just don't wish to share a country with you guys. At most we have resentment towards you guys. |
| Re: June 12th Holds No Good Memories For Us Igbos by Thiefobi1: 12:53pm On Jun 13, 2024 |
gidgiddy:waste of time discussing with IPOB. Trying to sell an IPOB and a failed governor as presidential candidate peter to Nigerians |
| Re: June 12th Holds No Good Memories For Us Igbos by Thiefobi1: 1:02pm On Jun 13, 2024 |
pazienza:Leave Yoruba region and move back to your region. How many Yoruba live in the S.E Or what is the problem with ibo people. |
| Re: June 12th Holds No Good Memories For Us Igbos by Raf4: 2:34pm On Jun 13, 2024 |
God1blessBiafra:Nobody attacked any Igbo in SW, you people just always present yourselves as universal victims. |
| Re: June 12th Holds No Good Memories For Us Igbos by ablejesus26(m): 2:49pm On Jun 13, 2024 |
phorget:June 12 was not just a Igbo thing,I had a very good Calabar friend We gather move out from SW. Infact our landlord then a man from Kogi run join sef, even some Yorubas from other States outside Lagos follow run too. Although to disprove what ogafactcheck said. The Igbos were majorly targeted by hoodlums and criminals for looting. |
| Re: June 12th Holds No Good Memories For Us Igbos by ablejesus26(m): 2:57pm On Jun 13, 2024 |
gidgiddy:If Ipob is your front,You are on your own. Come rain come shine any Biafra connected to the oppressive destructive Taliban wannabe ipob remains DEAD NAILED AND BURIED. Take it to sambisa forest it will never ever ever be accepted in Igboland. Even if Biafra comes today, groups and criminals claiming freedom fighters who have not even a kiosk as investment in Igboland like your mnk or that fat Buffon ekperima will never ever be on the list for consideration of people to lead. Always sounding daft and brainwashed,so You want outsiders to give you referendum while We continue to vote for leaders who stand against your scam ipob and their referendum, is that not enough to tell you that the region do not want anything to do with you, brainwashed thugs, cultist, kidnapers, drug runners and criminals claiming freedom fighters doing your fruitless scam ipob struggle?? Continue to mumu yourself doing nonsense scam ipob struggle,Igbo has moved on, We are in the stage of channelling the Region for self development bcus no one knows the future of the Country, the cord that holds the Country has been fatally weakened by this Apc calamity. YOU ARE ON YOUR OWN. |
| Re: June 12th Holds No Good Memories For Us Igbos by OgaFactCheck: 2:59pm On Jun 13, 2024 |
ablejesus26:Let's start disproving from you. Were you attacked while leaving the South-West? I mean attack within the South-West region? Be sincere with your answer. Even Northerners having the same tribe with the person that annulled the election were not attacked. What you needed to pass the mob during the crisis was to show Solidarity with protesters by displaying leaves on your cars. No one was hunted or attacked on the basis of their tribes. By no one, I am talking in general sense. |
| Re: June 12th Holds No Good Memories For Us Igbos by ablejesus26(m): 3:12pm On Jun 13, 2024 |
OgaFactCheck:What?? Are We talking about same June 12 or another one?? Myself and 5 others left very early in a friend's car to Benin so I wasn't directly attacked. Yes solidarity for the protest by leaves was seen but does that change the fact that people's shops and livelihood were raided by hoodlums and criminals?? My roommate who had a shop in Yaba then was a victim. Although it was not politically or tribally motivated just criminals taking advantage of the situatio. |
| Re: June 12th Holds No Good Memories For Us Igbos by OgaFactCheck: 3:56pm On Jun 13, 2024 |
ablejesus26:Riots lead to looting of shops but were the shops looted because they belonged to the Igbos? Big companies like Nichemtex and PZ were looted until curview was declared. Did those companies belong to Igbos? Every riot, touts usually take advantage to loot. The bone of contention is that were they looted because they belonged to any tribe? Hell No! Many shops were looted before the curview was declared irrespective of the tribes or religions of the owners. |
| Re: June 12th Holds No Good Memories For Us Igbos by raumdeuter: 3:59pm On Jun 13, 2024 |
confusedlady:The person you are responding to probably does not stay in the SE, he is probably in SW SS or north unity begging like Azikiwe |
| Re: June 12th Holds No Good Memories For Us Igbos by raumdeuter: 4:01pm On Jun 13, 2024 |
pazienza:What are the wording of Yoruba Ronu by Hubert Ogunde that is anti Ibo? Ogundes song was about Awolowo vs Akintola which was why the song was banned in the western region but Ibos like you who are cursed with victimhood took a song unrelated to him and lied it's about him If you don't want to share a space with them why don't you lead by relocating away from the SW and move to the SE |
| Re: June 12th Holds No Good Memories For Us Igbos by pazienza(m): 6:37pm On Jun 13, 2024 |
raumdeuter:We left your SW for you in 1967-1970. You teamed up with the North to force us back to Nigeria and even gloat about it. What do you expect when you forcefully fought to have us in Nigeria? You don't know that you will have to share your spaces with us? When Malays were tired of Singaporeans, they locked the Singaporean law makers out of their Senate building and did an emergency voting to expell Singapore out of the now defunct Malay Federation! In your own case, we left you and you fought to have us back against our own wish. Then you justify it by claiming that Zik single handedly as a superman he is, removed the secession clause from the constitution. Make it make sense! On the Ronu speech. It was a mistake. It was Akintola who used the Yoruba Ronu mantra to fan the embers of Igbophobia in Yorubaland in the 1960s. |
| Re: June 12th Holds No Good Memories For Us Igbos by raumdeuter: 7:09pm On Jun 13, 2024 |
pazienza:You left in 1967 but what were you looking for in Ore before you were chased back? Or is Ore part of Iboland Why did Onwuatuegwu kill Akintola premier of the west in his bedroom while sparing Okpara the Premier of the East Why did Ademulegun and Sodeinde get killed while Ojukwu and Ironsi were spared The problem with you is you think others are foolish while you are the only smart ones Well that's why they are dealing with you |
| Re: June 12th Holds No Good Memories For Us Igbos by gidgiddy(op): 7:14pm On Jun 13, 2024 |
ablejesus26:Characters like this make me laugh. His problem is always IPOB, but never the Nigeria that gets worse with every day. He never stops to think where this will all end Nigeria is only heading for collapse and disintegration, start thinking about where will end up when the time comes because Oduduwa Republic, Arewa Republic, Biafran Republic will all come, IPOB or no IPOB. |
| Re: June 12th Holds No Good Memories For Us Igbos by ElSudani: 7:19pm On Jun 13, 2024 |
ShinnBet:The funniest thing is that throughout the June 12 saga and even after the death of Abiola nobody held Ibos responsible for anything. Nobody tribalized it as something to do with Ibos, not even Nzeribe himself was held accountable. Yoruba saw it strictly as a struggle against dictatorship. Imagine Nzeribe was a Yoruba man fighting to annul an election won by an Ibo man. Imagine Daniel Kanu was a Yoruba man doing PR work for a demented dictator who was killing Ibos. |
| Re: June 12th Holds No Good Memories For Us Igbos by Omoluabi16(m): 7:59pm On Jun 13, 2024 |
I wonder what people gain when they try to rewrite history. The Nigerian civil war and subsequent events have been rewritten and heavily distorted and it is now a truth to them. I've never heard or read that the June 12 crisis was targeted at any tribe. |
| Re: June 12th Holds No Good Memories For Us Igbos by pazienza(m): 10:59pm On Jun 13, 2024 |
raumdeuter:You are only dealing with yourself. To hold someone on the floor, you must also stay on the floor. That has been the case of Yoruba and other gang up against Ndiigbo in Nigeria since 1970. To keep Ndiigbo in Nigeria, you all sacrificed the functional regional systems and created the dysfunctional state system. To keep Igbos out of power, you scored own goals twice by first voting Buhari and now Tinubu. You will suffer Ndiigbo , but you will suffer 10x more too, because the Igbo are more resilient than you. Ndo. |
| Re: June 12th Holds No Good Memories For Us Igbos by Gajagojo: 11:08pm On Jun 13, 2024 |
EmeeNaka:. There was no June 12 violence That is a blatant lie There were strikes and a few protests The strikes were deep and pervasive. There was no fuel and schools did not work but in the middle of that Nigeria qualified for the World Cup for the first time ever Violence started after 1994 when Abacha started arbitrary arrests and assassinations,killed Saro Wiwa ,arrested YarAdua Obasanjo and so on. This was now about democracy and Abacha Violence of the type such as that against Igbo business has never happened in South West Nigeria even though key Igbo figures like Chukwumerije ,Akpamgbo and Nzeribe were used to frustrate June 12 |
| Re: June 12th Holds No Good Memories For Us Igbos by raumdeuter: 2:58am On Jun 14, 2024 |
pazienza:It was an Ibo man who introduced Unitary system of govt It was an Ibo led coup who truncated the First republic and introduced military rule You havent told us what Ibo soldiers were looking for in Ore since it was the Yorubas who brought them back You havent told us why AKintola was marked for death and why Okpara in the East was spared Why Ademulegun and Sodeinde were marked for killing but Ojuku and Ironsi spared We will always be here to burst your lies |
| Re: June 12th Holds No Good Memories For Us Igbos by oyatz(m): 5:20am On Jun 14, 2024 |
Brendaniel:If you were an adult in 1993, you would have understood the scenario. There were tension in the whole country and people thought it could snow ball into a civil war,like what happened in Algeria '1992 presidential election which was cancelled and led to war. Liberia and several other African countries were going through civil wars at that time. Many people packed their properties and returned to their ancestral homelands and waited to see how things would turn out. Many Igbos returning home with some of the valuable goods were attacked by Armed robbers (Fellow Igbos) when they reached their towns or close to their towns and their monies /properties stolen. These criminal acts had nothing to do with Politics but pure criminal activities by local thieves who saw mass returnees of peoples from the cities with lots of cash at a time that there were no E-banking and people even withdrew their monies from the banks. |
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