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lordfalcao:
Getting dhuran means the club sees Jackson as very important player for present and future.

They are impressed with his improvements last season

Chelsea went from Sesko to Duran, Arsenal went from Sesko to either Victor or Zirkzee

Duran may turn out to be the best option

Ijustwantto:
Just a reminder that Leo messi is the only player to complete football winning the biggest tournament in the history of football. The world cup tournament has always been the most competitive and biggest until messi won it, then a certain fanbase with no world cup medal are trying to explain to us how euro is more bigger and harder to win than world cup. They will still tell us when they can't bear it anymore that nations league is more harder to win than world cup😭.
Ever since messi started winning international trophies(same thing they trolled him for not winning), copa America has become a useless tournament and world cup a non competitive tournament. Something Ronaldo told peirs Morgan it will be a dream for him to win😂
If you have any penaldian sitting beside you, just tell him that "him go explain tire cause him no get evidence" 😹😹😂

Which nonsense lie is only player to complete football

If completing football is winning league, UCl and world cup abeg what happened to Kante, Toni Kross, Iniesta and the rest 🙄😮‍💨

BlueAngel444:
which Nigerian striker

that guy that came to do trial at Cobham,hadiz or whatever his name is

Completing football is not only winning three trophies.
Kroos and kante didn't win euro

BlueAngel444:
Which nonsense lie is only player to complete football

If completing football is winning league, UCl and world cup abeg what happened to Kante, Toni Kross, Iniesta and the rest 🙄😮‍💨

Ihebu4chelsea:
No ooo. Since last 2years!

pin me your contacts

airmark:


Na Bida Tortoise f.c you suppose dey support.

you no kuku sabi

nateevs:
The problem is that you are paying attention to the wrong things. If we conceded half the goals we did from last season, we would be in the CL. The club know this for a fact from data analysis, and Maresca knows this for a fact from data analysis. This is why they are not running after a 100million, high-volume, Oshimhen-like player.

If Arsenal are in the market for a volume poacher, why are they not going in for your Dovbyk? They were trying to sign Sesko. Whilst Sesko is a fine player (I mentioned two seasons ago that we should sign him), he is not a high-volume poacher. I don't see them in the market for Gyokeres either. Why not?

Yes, it is true that we do not have a Vinicius and Bellingham at the same time in the team. But this is exactly what the club is building towards.

If Palmer goes on another 20/30 GA season, with 80% of the performances from last season, he will be on Balon 'dor shortlist instantly. If Micheal Olise equals or betters his CP goal tally from last season, he will be in the 15/20 GA range.

If Jackson equals or betters his GA from last season, then he's also doing 15/20 GA. And if I am right and the club is looking for a high-volume scoring winger like Summerville to add to the cast, then we are there.

No one is shelling 100m on a player that will score only 10 goals more than Jackson. Get with the programme.

The powerful, pacy, left-footed Duran is the next ninjah we are backing. This ninjah we know.

you might need to open airmark head before he sees things

BlueAngel444:
Chelsea went from Sesko to Duran, Arsenal went from Sesko to either Victor or Zirkzee

Duran may turn out to be the best option

the striker position is never a position to spend huge amount in transfer fees and wages.

Smart clubs know this..

That's why we are not going for osimhen or gyokores even though he could have been a better option.

Man u and liver pool spent huge fees on hojlund and Nunez.

But Jackson bought for less is already looking better than them.

lordfalcao:
Getting dhuran means the club sees Jackson as very important player for present and future.

They are impressed with his improvements last season

What improvements?

lordfalcao:
the striker position is never a position to spend huge amount in transfer fees and wages.

Smart clubs know this..

That's why we are not going for osimhen or gyokores even though he could have been a better option.

Man u and liver pool spent huge fees on hojlund and Nunez.

But Jackson bought for less is already looking better than them.

Fraudiola and Man City are not smart by buying Haaland and winning the elusive Ucl immediately, right?

Na only God fit deliver you from demonic spirits tormenting your brain.

airmark:
This is poor comparison and analysis.

Everybody knows that as a CF, you are closer to the goal and have better chance of scoring than players far from it.

Mbappe played only 16 league matches as CF last season and scored 11 non-penalty goals. Jackson played 35 league matches as CF and scored 14. The maths will expose the contrast in quality. It becomes uglier when we consider his numerous chances missed.

I am tired of back and forth on Jackson baba. We know who gets better goal sense, between Mbappe and Jackson. Not even close.



I didn't ask us to sign Mbappe. Anyways, he went to Madrid on a free.

I have already crushed your initial faulty Mbappe and Jackson's comparison, so this your conclusion of 10-goal gap is out of place. The gap between Mbappe and Jackson in scoring, is wider than the Atlantic ocean. Baba, don't go there abeg, you will drown.



I analyse data the right way, by considering the most important metrics.

Jackson is not hated by me. I still believe he can improve, just that I want him to go on loan, develop and return when he is ripe to lead the line and bury big chances properly.

Scoring majorly tap in goals and missing numerous and crucial big chances, is not what we need as a top club. Not when we can get better strikers that will not even cost a fortune while we wait for him to return from loan as an improved player subsequently.

I really miss Abrahamovic.

Again, you miss the mark. Side-stepping the issue and inserting different topics into the mix.

No one is comparing Jackson with Mbappe as players. I am not sure why you've gone on a tangent. The comparison is with ROI on these players you keep mentioning. Always has been.

Why is this difficult?

It's simple logic. We are not spending 100m plus on a No 9 who will only give us poverty numbers at worst, or marginal improvement over Jackson. It does not make financial sense, and this is the direction of the club.

This has always been the argument.

Instead, we should push those funds towards improving the support casts. Upscaling goal contribution from wingers, midfield, and defence. Not £120m on one single guy, who comes in and scores only 10 goals more than Jackson.

Let Arsenal go and buy Dobvyk.

airmark:
Fraudiola and Man City are not smart by buying Haaland and winning the elusive Ucl immediately, right?

Na only God fit deliver you from demonic spirits tormenting your brain.

compare the goals haaland scored before he came to city with the numbers the strikers you are mentioning is scoring and tell me why we should spend big on them.

WhoDeyHause:
What improvements?

if your eyes cannot see the improvement, leave it

lordfalcao:
if your eyes cannot see the improvement, leave it

Improvements like missing sitters or fumbling in big games right?
Bro you may judge your own centre forward on passes completed, successful dribbles, tackles attempted, long balls, heat map, most saves and the others, me and most of the football world clearly don't.

Ijustwantto:
Completing football is not only winning three trophies.
Kroos and kante didn't win euro

did Messi win euros 😏

By the way Alvarez says hi

nateevs:
Again, you miss the mark. Side-stepping the issue and inserting different topics into the mix.

No one is comparing Jackson with Mbappe as players. I am not sure why you've gone on a tangent. The comparison is with ROI on these players you keep mentioning. Always has been.

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I didn't go on a tangent, you even claimed that "Mbappe scored 20 non-penalty goals last season. That's only 6 more than Jackson", just to show that Jackson did well last season and even an Mbappe would have marginally performed better. I had to destroy that point before the likes of Lordfalcao and Timbros start to echo it - Mbappe's 11 non-pk's goals in 16 matches as CF, is what you should compare with Jackson's 14 goals in 35 league matches.

nateevs:
It's simple logic. We are not spending 100m plus on a No 9 who will only give us poverty numbers at worst, or marginal improvement over Jackson. It does not make financial sense, and this is the direction of the club.

This has always been the argument.

You kept on hammering on 100m as if my main choice - Dobvik is 100m. And Dobvik is not as wasteful as Jackson and will not give poverty numbers as he will bury most big chances unlike Jackson that hasn't even scored a goal for Senegal in like 14 matches.

nateevs:
Instead, we should push those funds towards improving the support casts. Upscaling goal contribution from wingers, midfield, and defence. Not £120m on one single guy, who comes in and scores only 10 goals more than Jackson.

Let Arsenal go and buy Dobvyk.

Dovbyk is not £120m, you are arguing based on wrong information that I wonder where it came from. Probably, your love for Jackson jacked the striker's price up astronomically.

WhoDeyHause:
Improvements like missing sitters or fumbling in big games right?
Bro you may judge your own centre forward on passes completed, successful dribbles, tackles attempted, long balls, heat map, most saves and the others, me and most of the football world clearly don't.

That's what Chelsea have turned to. Chelsea, now in the hands of Lordfalcao and Timbros.

🚨BREAKING: Chelsea have asked for permission on Thursday afternoon to speak to Olise’s representatives with the hope of agreeing personal terms 🔥

(@David_Ornstein)

Chelsea have made a move for Olise Sources claim that Olise’s £60m release clause may only be able to be triggered by Champions League clubs 👀

(@Matt_Law_DT) #CFC

Lionel Scaloni no matter the situation

100% composure, always maintaining steeze

Na water him go dey drink

BlueMann:
Lionel Scaloni no matter the situation

100% composure, always maintaining steeze

Ballzproblem2:
Chelsea have made a move for Olise Sources claim that Olise’s £60m release clause may only be able to be triggered by Champions League clubs 👀

(@Matt_Law_DT) #CFC

Which kind release clause be this?

Is it the player's agent that inserted the clause into the contract to guarantee he plays UCL football, or it is at Crystal palace's instance to ensure they make the most out of his sale?

airmark:

Nothing o. You know we have Bida Lions FC.

I know, that is where I grew up.

airmark:
I didn't go on a tangent, you even claimed that "Mbappe scored 20 non-penalty goals last season. That's only 6 more than Jackson", just to show that Jackson did well last season and even an Mbappe would have marginally performed better. I had to destroy that point before the likes of Lordfalcao and Timbros start to echo it - Mbappe's 11 non-pk's goals in 16 matches as CF, is what you should compare with Jackson's 14 goals in 35 league matches.





You kept on hammering on 100m as if my main choice - Dobvik is 100m. And Dobvik is not as wasteful as Jackson and will not give poverty numbers as he will bury most big chances unlike Jackson that hasn't even scored a goal for Senegal in like 14 matches.



Dovbyk is not £120m, you are arguing based on wrong information that I wonder where it came from. Probably, your love for Jackson jacked the striker's price up astronomically.

Sir, this is not a matter of opinion. I am telling simple FACTS with empirical evidence. Jackson did so well. I am not making it up.

Nicolas Jackson scored more goals in his debut season at Chelsea, than every other striker in recent history. And this stretches back to include JFH and TAF that preceded the Abramovic era. The only striker that beat him is Diego Costa, with only 6 more goals in his debut season.

This sort of analysis goes unspoken about, because we are more interested in making memes and pushing an agenda.

The question is can he be coached into being better and less profligate? Can the team structure itself and play better to allow him better these numbers?

This is the story of stuff we should be talking about, not asking us to buy Vlahovic for £80m.

The comparison with other players, is to put his debut season performance into perspective. I don't care if others played CF or not. Jackson also played in midfield, left wing, right wing, and defence many times, helping the team.

And yes, if we ever mentioned we want to buy Gyokeres and Dovbyk, they will quote us £100m.

[quote author=Itsrm post=130453508][/quote]None of them hit Jackson numbers

Actually crazy🥲

Ballzproblem2:
Chelsea have made a move for Olise Sources claim that Olise’s £60m release clause may only be able to be triggered by Champions League clubs 👀

(@Matt_Law_DT) #CFC

that's why others are reporting it's complicated and chelsea may pay more than £60m

Chelsea to offer Crystal Palace more money so that a repeat of last summer doesn't occur again

Is Olise worth anything close to €75m?

BlueRayDick:


Which kind release clause be this?

Is it the player's agent that inserted the clause into the contract to guarantee he plays UCL football, or it is at Crystal palace's instance to ensure they make the most out of his sale?

omo I can't say

timbros:
Let's start with the debate going on before your analogy.

Who was leading the poll before the voting time became extended? Ronaldo or any other candidate?

Let's deal with that one first.

Ribery and Ronaldo were the favorites

Conor Gallagher has been named Crystal Palace Player of the Season for 2021/22

People shouting about Olise forget that Gallagher was there best player and still had a bad season for us.

The way teams dey chase Olise, even Bayern is interested likely because of kompany.

Among RWs where does Olise rank?

nateevs:
Sir, this is not a matter of opinion. I am telling simple FACTS with empirical evidence. Jackson did so well. I am not making it up.

With the volume of chances (both big and half) he missed, he didn't do well sir.

In Senegal where he didn't get such high number of scoring chances, he is yet to score a goal in 14 matches (including friendly matches). Such striker shouldn't be our main striker at Chelsea.

nateevs:
Nicolas Jackson scored more goals in his debut season at Chelsea, than every other striker in recent history. And this stretches back to include JFH and TAF that preceded the Abramovic era. The only striker that beat him is Diego Costa, with only 6 more goals in his debut season.

This sort of analysis goes unspoken about, because we are more interested in making memes and pushing an agenda.

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This is inconsequential, as Jackson's 14 goals, without considering the number of minutes played and the volume of chances missed, is not enough to rate him highly above Flo and Hasselbaink's debuts. I watched these two strikers in our colours and it would amount to insult to bring this Nicolas to their debuts. In future, he may surpass them, no doubt.

Many Chelsea fans just saw 14 goals on a debut and shouted eureka! I watched almost all Chelsea matches and I can't be hoodwinked by a 14 that should have been 24.

nateevs:
The question is can he be coached into being better and less profligate? Can the team structure itself and play better to allow him better these numbers?

This is the story of stuff we should be talking about, not asking us to buy Vlahovic for £80m.

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I want the best for him and I believe he can improve while he is on loan. He can't continue to use Chelsea as experiment, learning the basics of scoring goals in the box. It got us to a les-fancied conference league.

nateevs:
The comparison with other players, is to put his debut season performance into perspective. I don't care if others played CF or not. Jackson also played in midfield, left wing, right wing, and defence many times, helping the team.

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You should have cared where Mbappe played, before bringing his non-penalty goals near Jackson's. It matters if we are to analyse and conclude without bias.

nateevs:
And yes, if we ever mentioned we want to buy Gyokeres and Dovbyk, they will quote us £100m.

Dovbyk has a release clause, and the amount is less than half of £100m sir.