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| Re: 1300 Pilgrims Die At Hajj Pilgrimage Amid Scorching Temperatures by Calitoscassius(m): 11:01am On Jun 24, 2024 |
These i guess were the people who stoned the so called Devil the Devil probarbly lobbed a massive brick back at them.Many more to follow...... Next time they would learn not to stone the Devil. ![]() |
| Re: 1300 Pilgrims Die At Hajj Pilgrimage Amid Scorching Temperatures by Chetas81(m): 11:02am On Jun 24, 2024 |
| Re: 1300 Pilgrims Die At Hajj Pilgrimage Amid Scorching Temperatures by Chetas81(m): 11:11am On Jun 24, 2024 |
adexosteve:Allah have no meaning in your language lol |
| Re: 1300 Pilgrims Die At Hajj Pilgrimage Amid Scorching Temperatures by Chetas81(m): 11:19am On Jun 24, 2024 |
Greenfaces:you supposed ask yourself, how can someone leave devil in their house and pay millions of money to stone devil in Saudi? |
| Re: 1300 Pilgrims Die At Hajj Pilgrimage Amid Scorching Temperatures by Goddyrichie(m): 11:20am On Jun 24, 2024 |
JoeEeL:they say u worship satan d whites and d Arabs own we black people brain 🧠 they’re our remote they control us with this religion shit they made us believe our religion is evil but theirs is d pure one since my eyes don open 4 d past 4 years now I stop going to church cuz Nigeria church to me is a scam nothing like love helping each other in Nigeria Christian is all about getting d tithes and offering everyday |
| Re: 1300 Pilgrims Die At Hajj Pilgrimage Amid Scorching Temperatures by JoeEeL(m): 11:21am On Jun 24, 2024 |
Goddyrichie:Bro you are more than correct. You'ave said it all. We must begin to look from within ourselves. |
| Re: 1300 Pilgrims Die At Hajj Pilgrimage Amid Scorching Temperatures by Bimpe29(m): 11:53am On Jun 24, 2024 |
Inna lillahi wa inna ilehi rajiun! Allahumo ighifirillahum war'amhum Aameen. |
| Re: 1300 Pilgrims Die At Hajj Pilgrimage Amid Scorching Temperatures by vannessa7(f): 12:19pm On Jun 24, 2024 |
JoeEeL:Hmm, this your write up would have been reasonable and logical if only every nation of people was created by different gods or if there is no God. To us humans we see ourselves different from each other due to many factors such as skin colour, languages, colonization, culture, traditions, locations etc but to the God that made everyone we are same and that was why He selected only few people and sent them to the entire world. He is like the father in a poligamous setting, the father owns all the children and all the children are equal in his sight even though they have different mothers. God decided to choose Abraham then through whom He sent three religion. God does not have the habit of calling the crowd but calls specific person whom He now send to the crowd. I'm sure God chose Abraham and isrealites then. because apart from the holiness found in him, they were among the 'civilized' and existing people then. I'm very sure Yoruba, Hausa or Igbo did not exist then. If you agree that there is God who created the heaven and the earth and everything in it then you will realize it is logical and correct to be a Christian, Muslim or judaist. You are still under the same God who still sustains the world. You won't feel you are accepting something that is not applicable to you, you will realize you are doing the right thing because when you die like every other person you will report to the same God that other tribes and nationals will report to, there is no different heaven or hell for Arab , Jews, whites black, Asians etc. we will all go to the same heaven or hell depending on the work of our hands. Having said that, do you know that some people have a live connection to the spiritual and have confirmed that the Bible and Quran are actually Truth and that worshipping a creature like yourself in any guise will displease your maker? God does not care if you are not Jew or Arab and will not pardon you for rejecting Him because you are not a biological Abraham descendant because He still owns you. Some of us have seen Angels, heaven, hell, and have heard the spiritual enough to know that serving any other god beside the Almighty Creator will take you to hell after life. If you say this is all lies, ask yourself what if it's true? |
| Re: 1300 Pilgrims Die At Hajj Pilgrimage Amid Scorching Temperatures by gloryman91(m): 12:48pm On Jun 24, 2024 |
May Allah forgive them all and grant them Al-Janah Firdawous giving the family fortitude to bear this irreplaceable loss. |
| Re: 1300 Pilgrims Die At Hajj Pilgrimage Amid Scorching Temperatures by JoeEeL(m): 1:05pm On Jun 24, 2024 |
vannessa7:I carefully read through your writeup, and without bias. *Sigh*, where do I start from? Okay okay. Most archaeologists, by way of extensive research, agree that human life began in Africa. As a matter of fact, many of them deem this as nearly incontrovertible. For you to so boldly say that you are very sure Yoruba, Igbo and hausa did not exist then seriously makes me shudder. Human species originated in Africa and spread across to other parts of the world. Yorubas... in fact, africans are the first human specie variety. So yes, we existed before Israel. This may very likely be at odds with what you learnt in your book (bible). That we very likely existed before Israel should already set the alarm bells ringing that most of what you believe from that book, from the creation story and all that to believing you are a descendant of abram etc. are very much disputable. Also I cant help but detect that typical inferiority complex of a black man that would justify anything that will place him under the wings of a foreigner. I dont just get some of you. You're just saying, "God said", "God said"... If I ask you now, where did God say? Next thing is to point me to a book, a bible. Why should I believe that as source of authority? A mere canonization of ancient texts when societies tried to govern themselves and mixed religion with law? Is that what you want me to take as source of truth? C'mon cut that crap and snap out of it! I could and will for a fact, tell you "God said / IFA said", "God said / IFA said"... would you believe theirs over mine or mine over theirs? If not why? Simple. 3 reasons: because theirs was written as a book, you were brainwashed from birth, and finally the crowd mentality. You grew up seeing many people around you doing it so you just assumed it must be correct. It's environmental impact. So many people cannot just be wrong you'd say. You didnt verbalise it, your mind subconsciously internalised it. And you and your mind were misled. Simple and short. In fact, your thinking needs serious adjustment and iron-bending. Where did God send 3 religions of which I presume (Judaism, xtianity and islam). See the way you mention it as if it all started at the same time. Judaism had been the culture of the Israelites for a long time and xtianity succeeded it. And after many years Islam did. You leave so many religions out of this. Where will you put hinduism? Taoism, Confucianism, Buddhism, Zoroastrianism, ancient egypt religions, Ifa, Satsana, hammurabi worship, Ra worship and a variety of so-called "pagan" worship and beliefs? You are just a product of colonialism. Say China forms nigeria instead of britain and imposed their religion on your forefathers, today you'd be writing in Mandarin and telling me how God sent Buddha.Finally, truth is relative. If you say people find truth in quran and bible, fair enough. So also is truth in Ifa, Orunmila, Buddhism, Taoism. In the end truth is relative. There are actually alot of good and reasonable things someone can extract from either book you mentioned though. But that doesn't make it real or from God. It's just common sense. Lastly, if God does not care if I'm Jew or Arab, then let the Jews and arabs line up behind my own Gods of my own lands. Why must I be the one to line up behind their own yahweh or allahu. I will never be subservient to them or their gods. Q.E.D. Oh, and did you say you've seen angels? Were they on robes, did they have crown on their hair, were they emitting bright lights? If neither of this, I can surely tell that they looked more of a white than they looked like you a black woman. Come off that brainwashing, Miss/ Mrs. |
| Re: 1300 Pilgrims Die At Hajj Pilgrimage Amid Scorching Temperatures by Kingrshd3: 2:10pm On Jun 24, 2024 |
Greenfaces:Funny but truth |
| Re: 1300 Pilgrims Die At Hajj Pilgrimage Amid Scorching Temperatures by Kingrshd3: 2:12pm On Jun 24, 2024 |
batrhian:Paradise or hell for dieing in somebodys country and dieying without having Jesus Christ 🤣. My brother people do die yearly in that place u called holy land so are u telling me the Allah are using hem for sacrifice yearly ? Or how can Allah allow his people or creatures to die like foul yearly and u expect such to enter heaven 😆😆😆 |
| Re: 1300 Pilgrims Die At Hajj Pilgrimage Amid Scorching Temperatures by Greenfaces: 2:25pm On Jun 24, 2024 |
Chetas81:This is an culture we are talking about here. You do not know or understand everything. Leave alone things that do not concern you and face the ones thst concern you, because verily, your own challenges will not leave you alone just because you are busy paying attention to other people's own |
| Re: 1300 Pilgrims Die At Hajj Pilgrimage Amid Scorching Temperatures by Chetas81(m): 3:28pm On Jun 24, 2024 |
Greenfaces:culture values culture |
| Re: 1300 Pilgrims Die At Hajj Pilgrimage Amid Scorching Temperatures by mamaafrik(m): 3:56pm On Jun 24, 2024 |
Babatunde45:You are using a phone that cannot be verified. |
| Re: 1300 Pilgrims Die At Hajj Pilgrimage Amid Scorching Temperatures by billyG(m): 4:08pm On Jun 24, 2024 |
It beats how a primitive sheepherder living on sheep milk & bread & dwells in a tent in d scorching desert sun can have d ability to scam more than a billion half-witted people on earth? |
| Re: 1300 Pilgrims Die At Hajj Pilgrimage Amid Scorching Temperatures by MrBanner(m): 4:14pm On Jun 24, 2024 |
mamaafrik:That guy is a verified scammer, don't send any money to him |
| Re: 1300 Pilgrims Die At Hajj Pilgrimage Amid Scorching Temperatures by vannessa7(f): 4:41pm On Jun 24, 2024 |
JoeEeL:My write up is not based on unproven theoretics but personal experience. Do you know that there are some people who still retain a bit of the memory of heaven who still remembers how it was before they were born and who still regularly communicates with heaven because they are servants of God by birth. Ifa, Buddha etc that you mentioned are all creatures of God who if they can talk will still tell you there is a power beyond them. I'm very much aware of the chronological order of the Abrahamic religion, the difference between the books of other religions and the books of the Abrahamic religion is the power inherent in the latter which is very absent in the former. The books of God made known the mind of God and made it clear that worshipping those other gods which were actually created by God is not allowed, moreover the Buddha etc has no heaven to take their followers to and none of them has or can create anything. The Quran said we should ask them what they created. Lest I forget, I am a geographer so I'm well aware of the archaeological findings and all. But logically you will realize that ancient civilizations such as Egypt and environ was being referred to. Even as recent as 200 years ago most part of the area we call Nigeria was still in the bush. And by the way, Angels are transparent like crystal glass, I know they can decide to appear in human form but their original form is like crystal but with human shape and large wings, I have seen hundreds of them and even spoken to one. I just want you to know there are some people who the spiritual is their reality. I can confirm to you that those serving idols called ifa, Buddha etc will spend eternity in hell fire if they don't repent. And all evil people. Not remembering your maker while in this world is a great wickedness against Him. There is nothing like differences when it comes to God. He is one and created all. He allowed His books to be written so the entire world will come to know Him. |
| Re: 1300 Pilgrims Die At Hajj Pilgrimage Amid Scorching Temperatures by mamaafrik(m): 5:07pm On Jun 24, 2024 |
| Re: 1300 Pilgrims Die At Hajj Pilgrimage Amid Scorching Temperatures by BigBizzy(m): 8:19am On Jun 25, 2024 |
Serves them right....I feel no pity. Be staying in your country. God is everywhere |
| Re: 1300 Pilgrims Die At Hajj Pilgrimage Amid Scorching Temperatures by JoeEeL(m): 1:42pm On Jun 25, 2024 |
vannessa7:So if most parts of Nigeria was bushy, what exactly is your point? Does that means humans didn't exist because the areas were bushy? What kind of reasoning is this though? Ancient men were mostly cavemen and hunters and gatherers... They didn't build any modern civilisation but wandered and foraged. If you say you see angels, hope you know there are others who see unicorns, others see flying horses, alicorns, dragons, goblins, ghouls? And how do you see them? If it's via a dream, then anyone can dream anything. If you say you spoke with one, did you speak inside a dream cos if so, anyone can talk to anyone in a dream. But if it's live, then where is your proof? If you do not have a video recording or at the very least, an audio recording, then you and your angel are quite a disappointment. If you call Ifa idol, then your jesus is a mere human sculpture. And if you say others would go to hell for not believing your jesus human sculpture then congratulations! Because you are also going to hell in another person's religion. |
| Re: 1300 Pilgrims Die At Hajj Pilgrimage Amid Scorching Temperatures by Nobody: 1:59pm On Jun 25, 2024 |
Greenfaces:How come you don't wear this perspective when talking about Christianity? What's really the offense?
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| Re: 1300 Pilgrims Die At Hajj Pilgrimage Amid Scorching Temperatures by vannessa7(f): 10:50am On Jun 26, 2024 |
JoeEeL:I am a Muslim |
| Re: 1300 Pilgrims Die At Hajj Pilgrimage Amid Scorching Temperatures by JoeEeL(m): 1:49pm On Jun 26, 2024 |
vannessa7:Okay, thanks for letting me know but still doesn't negate my points. You are only a muslim because somewhere along the line, either you or your parents / ancestors bowed to the superiority of the arabs. That is just the long and short of the whole matter, whether you admit or not. |
| Re: 1300 Pilgrims Die At Hajj Pilgrimage Amid Scorching Temperatures by vannessa7(f): 3:16pm On Jun 26, 2024 |
JoeEeL:Actually no, at the bolded, why don't you read my convertion story under my profile here in nairaland. The danger with this line of thought you have is that by the time life throws you a curve which money and idols cannot handle you will suddenly believe in the Almighty Creator but it may be too late because it takes experience gathered from walking with Him for a while to know how to connect to His power and receive His help fast at that crucial moment. |
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the Devil probarbly lobbed a massive brick back at them.