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Godons1:
I know these Guys. They are from Aba
See Emeka for right and Chijioke for left

Your brothers with their cone heads

They bear Igbo names and speak better Igbo language than Ebonyi State. Stup!d and shameful elders they have, keep running away from their origin.

They should conduct proper referendum.

Immediately, Anioma State is created and linked to South East, I see more Igbo people from others south east states investing massively in their lands, businesses booming for them and more unity and rest of minds of their children's heritage.

EmeeNaka:
Do they not have a member in the House of Representatives?
Anyway, that's their cup of tea

They have but I tell you he may not know what they are saying 😂

Me as an ukwani man...I don't see myself as an Igbo man...
Period

LOVEALAIGBO:
Your true sentiments were always going to show eventually! It comes as no surprise that one who despises anything Igbo secession or Mazi Kanu (notwithstanding their merits or demerits) would fret and worry over a proposed Anioma state being seen as part of the south-east!

Those busybodies, not from Anioma or the south-east, who are against Anioma being the 6th south-east state are of the same ilk with those who do not look favourably on anything secession, Kanu or even Peter Obi! Expect them to pretend and try to trick observers into thinking they’re Igbo or have the best interests of Ndigbo at heart….like pretending to want a useless Orlu State that add nothing to wider Igbo interests besides creating more slots for thieving and selfish Igbo politicians to feed fat from!

A useless Igbo person would say useless Orlu state because he thinks that transferring Anioma to the southeast, he has gained any advantage in the agitation for restoration of Biafra.
The Thames River does not make the two sides of London different.
River Sein in Paris does not make Parisiens of two sides of River Sein different.
River Niger does not make Igbo man in Asaba different from the Igbo man in Onitsha. The day you want to restore Biafra for Nd'Igbo, Anioma and Igbos in the southeast will join without hesitation.
Meanwhile, on the table is sixth state from Anambra and Imo States or from Imo state where it's most merited. If you propagate hatred against Orlu zone in the issue of 6th
state for the southeast for any reason, your dream may start to be be aborted from Orlu senatorial zone.

FreeStuffsNG:
Strange is an understatement ma. Just the thought that they would rather have SS states become 7 while SE still remains 5 despite being neighbors and some bearing Igbo names is a very very strong expression of rejection and disapproval of being associated with the Igbo. It's like an overkill , more like an expression of disgust at the thought of being regarded as Igbo.

That is the sentiment of the average Ukwuani person.

I wouldn't say the Ukwuani are disgusted at the mere thought of being regarded as Igbo. Rather, I would say they just don't identify with the Igbo ethnic group despite having certain linguistic and cultural similarities with them. Identity is like a covering blanket, if you try to take it away from a people, they will react in the most unpredictable ways because it is akin to stripping them nàked. The vast majority of Ukwuani people do not identify as Igbo so always reject any attempt to classify them as one.

Ishilove:
That is the sentiment of the average Ukwuani person.

I wouldn't say the Ukwuani are disgusted at the mere thought of being regarded as Igbo. Rather, I would say they just don't identify with the Igbo ethnic group despite having certain linguistic and cultural similarities with them. Identity is like a covering blanket, if you try to take it away from a people, they will react in the most unpredictable ways because it is akin to stripping them nàked. The vast majority of Ukwuani people do not identify as Igbo so always reject any attempt to classify them as one.

So, people from Okpanam are ibo?

Inosky:
They bear Igbo names and speak better Igbo language than Ebonyi State. Stup!d and shameful elders they have, keep running away from their origin.

They should conduct proper referendum.

Immediately, Anioma State is created and linked to South East, I see more Igbo people from others south east states investing massively in their lands, businesses booming for them and more unity and rest of minds of their children's heritage.

Develop more sense, creating Anioma a sixth state in the SE amounts to reducing political representation of Igbos in the National assembly and the Federal Executive Council.
You poorly informed indomie generations of Igbos are doing incalculable harm to Igbo land. Listen to your more informed Igbos in politics who have since 1996 been asking for a sixth state in the southeast area. They never asked for Anioma or any other place outside the SE zone to be created as a state and made the sixth state for the southeast area.
Tufiakwa indomie generation of Igbos. No Biafla no lefelendum. It's Biafla or death.

Maxtipulation:
And what tribe will they say they are?

Asin, what tribe will you refer them as?

Because there nothing like IKa or NDOKWA tribe

Kindly reply,

Ika man and Ndokwa man... Just the way you refer to yourself as an Igbo man

PoloG:
Nobody likes Igbos

This comment is sign of low self esteem

joseph1832:
So, people from Okpanam are ibo?

I am not familiar with what they identify as

Godons1:
I know these Guys. They are from Aba
See Emeka for right and Chijioke for left

Almajiri boy, who dash you data?

Highlights...
—angry that they weren't consulted.
—to remain in Delta State, and if they want new state, it would be named Ndowka State, South South; instead of being included in Anioma State, South East.
#Interesting.

Ishilove:
That is the sentiment of the average Ukwuani person.

I wouldn't say the Ukwuani are disgusted at the mere thought of being regarded as Igbo. Rather, I would say they just don't identify with the Igbo ethnic group despite having certain linguistic and cultural similarities with them. Identity is like a covering blanket, if you try to take it away from a people, they will react in the most unpredictable ways because it is akin to stripping them nàked. The vast majority of Ukwuani people do not identify as Igbo so always reject any attempt to classify them as one.

I see. Thank you ma.

Paraman:
Ika man and Ndokwa man... Just the way you refer to yourself as an Igbo man

Laughable

Slytiger:
So it's Yoruba people that are members of NNU 😂
Truly, ibos are really scared of Yorubas.

I don't even know why they want to give them another state when the whole 5 states are not up to half of Borno state. Yet, they will never be satisfied. Just watch when it's passed.

Ishilove:
That is the sentiment of the average Ukwuani person.

I wouldn't say the Ukwuani are disgusted at the mere thought of being regarded as Igbo. Rather, I would say they just don't identify with the Igbo ethnic group despite having certain linguistic and cultural similarities with them. Identity is like a covering blanket, if you try to take it away from a people, they will react in the most unpredictable ways because it is akin to stripping them nàked. The vast majority of Ukwuani people do not identify as Igbo so always reject any attempt to classify them as one.

YEAH!


THAT SENTIMENT STEMS FROM THE BIAFRA WAR.


WHERE THEY DENIED BEING IGBOS AND POINTED THE SOLDIERS TO THEIR BROTHERS IN ASABA.


THE BIAFRA WAR IS LONG GONE AND THEY REALLY NEED TO SNAP OUT OF IT.


THEY WERE NOT THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT DIENED BEING IGBOS ALONGSIDE URHOBO AND CO.


WE KNOW THAT HISTORY.


IN ACTUAL FACT THEY ARE IGBO PEOPLE WITHOUT A SPEC, SPOT OR BLEMISH. THEY ARE FULL COMPLETE IGBO.

Thewrath:
The senator representing delta north has proposed what he thinks is best for his people,but it’s the iragbiji Dwellers from far away SW that crying 😂😂😂
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He propose without due consultation. Not all delta north speak Igbo. He just want to be governor because it easier through anioma than delta state. Even if he stand a chance to be governor of delta state, he will need to wait at least sixteen years.

kedeojo:
He propose without due consultation. Not all delta north speak Igbo. He just want to be governor because it easier through anioma than delta state. Even if he stand a chance to be governor of delta state, he will need to wait at least sixteen years.

Trash

SoNature:
Were you consulted before you became a part of Delta State? You should be thanking Ned for trying to bring governance close to you fools!

You insulted a whole senatorial district just cause they are trying to choose their own independence, yet you'll go about preaching peace on other threads


Jeez, all of u are worst than the dictators we currently have in power in other countries

You hypocrisy and intolerance stinks

PoloG:
Nobody likes Igbos

Not true, but many Igbos undo Igbos.

For example, in this matter of 6th state for the southeast, there's hardly any reasonable Igbo person who does not know that Imo and Anambra States are supposed to contribute local govt areas for the sixth state in the southeast area; or
sixth state in the SE is cut from any of Imo or Anambra State. But some indomie generation Igbos on social media keep yapping nonsense things as if Igbos are at war over state creation.

DevilsEqual:
You insulted a whole senatorial district just cause they are trying to choose their own independence, yet you'll go about preaching peace on other threads


Jeez, all of u are worst than the dictators we currently have in power in other countries

You hypocrisy and intolerance stinks

Can you stop fouling this thread with your demented ignorance!

johbara:
The Wahala giving Ijaw part really got me cracking up 🤣🤣

Something dey worry that guy.

What does he even mean by wahala giving Ijaw

DevilsEqual:
You insulted a whole senatorial district just cause they are trying to choose their own independence, yet you'll go about preaching peace on other threads


Jeez, all of u are worst than the dictators we currently have in power in other countries

You hypocrisy and intolerance stinks

THIS ANIOMA STATE IS AN ANIOMA AFFAIRS.


ORLU STATE IS WHAT THE SE PUT FORWARD AT THE NASS.


IGBO DONT BELIEVE IN FORCE, WE WILL LET THE ANOMA PEOPLE CONSULT AND DECIDE WHEHER IT IS TIME TO STAND AS A MAN OR SQUAT LIKE A BITCHES UNDER URHOBO MAN.


I'M SURE THE URHOBO WANT A STATE LIKE THE AKWA IBOM MAN WHERE THEY CAN PRESENT GOV WITHOUT TURN BY TURN BY TURN BUSINESS.




IF YOU DENY YOURSELF, NOBODY WILL TAKE YOU SERIOUS.

kedeojo:
He propose without due consultation. Not all delta north speak Igbo. He just want to be governor because it easier through anioma than delta state. Even if he stand a chance to be governor of delta state, he will need to wait at least sixteen years.

Is he not the one representing them?
Not only igbos are in SE.

Goodvibes007:
If they call Ebonyi abekeleke and Enugu wawa, what do you expect. As per Anioma, they only need the land not the people on it. Case study, how Ikwerres were treated during the civil war. How how they classify Anambrans as top Igbos, followed by Abia then Imo.

Bro, I live in igboland and I can tell u that's true

Few years back, I used to teach in one Anglican School in Ukpo, ST.Marys, I was raking them Agric sci and was telling my Jss student about the essence of making ridges, asking them if they know how to


These Jss 2 students told me point-blank that "their parents would rather hire an "Nwa Abakaliki" than allow them do that"

So bad to the point that they were even telling me to ask one boy there (their classmates from Ebonyi) about it while they're all laughing and calling him out

They said uncle "Nwonu is an Abakaliki person, he knows how they do it"


I was just there dumbfounded at how they quickly used that opportunity to mock him so much that he was going aggressive on them and I had to stop them all and change the discussion

DevilsEqual:
Bro, I live in igboland and I can tell u that's true

Few years back, I used to teach in one Anglican School in Ukpo, ST.Marys, I was raking them Agric sci and was telling my Jss student about the essence of making ridges, asking them if they know how to


These Jss 2 students told me point-blank that "their parents would rather hire an "Nwa Abakaliki" than allow them do that"

So bad to the point that they were even telling me to ask one boy there (their classmates from Ebonyi) about it while they're all laughing and calling him out

They said uncle "Nwonu is an Abakaliki person, he knows how they do it"


I was just there dumbfounded at how they quickly used that opportunity to mock him so much that he was going aggressive on them and I had to stop them all and change the discussion

Goodvibes007:
If they call Ebonyi abekeleke and Enugu wawa, what do you expect. As per Anioma, they only need the land not the people on it. Case study, how Ikwerres were treated during the civil war. How how they classify Anambrans as top Igbos, followed by Abia then Imo.

U LIVE IN IGBO LAND AND YOU ARE NOT IGBO YET INVOLVING YOURSELF IN IGBO PEOPLE AFFAIR.


IF U DEY CLOSE NOW, MY AK47 WILL DO THE REMAININ TALKING.


U SEE, U BLACK MONKEY ARE FULL OF EVIL AND THAT IS WHY NO PROGRESS.

Afonjananawerey:
You are not an Ijebu, tell me where you came from in Ijebu? It's not difficult for your people to switch town and villages as you are doing in Lagos today, normal yorubas hardly understand Ijebu dialect, lick the truth

I'm asking u to mention one notable Yoruba person that ever claimed Lagos even as a non-indigene

I know of celebrities like Dagrin,Olamide, Reminisce, Wizkid,Davido and also politicians like James Faleke,Ambode,Yayi and co that never hide their original state of origin.


Just mention two popular Yoruba figures that ever claim to be lagosian as a non-indigene else u guys are just projecting your land-grabbing fantasy on others

I want factual cases

adamusuleiman1:
Ndokwa, like other Nigerians, were shocked by this rather social media frenzy that had no verifiable source nor government authority to the authorship of the said document. But not wanting to be caught napping, we went into action. The NNU set up a high-powered committee on the subject.

“After extensive consultation with our people and diligent consideration of the pros and cons of Ndokwa in an Anioma State in South East, Nigeria, the committee rejected Ndokwa being included in an Anioma State in the South East geopolitical zone of Nigeria; electing rather, to remain in the present Delta State of the South-South geopolitical zone or as a last option, have an Ndokwa State.

“In the light of the above, it only follows that under the present circumstance, Sen. Nwoko’s proposal is grossly deficient in consultation, lacking in respect for the people of Nation. It’s an effort in futility as far as Ndokwa nation is concerned. You don’t agitate on behalf of a people, let alone a nation of three densely populated local government areas of well-meaning Nigerians.

“Like the 2021 episode, Nwoko’s bill lacks the acceptance, support, and the goodwill of Ndokwa people. Proper consultations would have been a veritable opportunity to appraise the distinguished Senator of Ndokwa long-standing position on the Anioma State discourse,” the statement reads in part.

The General Ndubisi-led group said, “the Senator is on his own” since he sees himself too big to consult Ndokwa political establishment on an issue bothering on the very foundation of Ndokwa nation stressing that:

“To this end, we, the Ndosumili and Ukwuani people, administratively called Ndokwa, who constitute the Ndokwa/Ukwuani Federal Constituency of Delta North Senatorial District of Delta State, Nigeria, and inhabit part of the contiguous geographical sphere of Delta State, Nigeria, often called ANIOMA, in an affirmation by the President Generals of the thirty-eight (38) Ndokwa Clans and under the authority of Ndokwa Neku Union (NNU), our apex socio-cultural organization, hereby vehemently and totally, reject to be included in the creation of an Anioma State as part of the South East geopolitical zone of Nigeria, whether as proposed by the Senator representing Delta North Senatorial District in the Nigerian Senate – Senator Ned Munir Nwoko or by any other arrangement or contraption, whatsoever.

“We elect to remain in our present Delta State of the South-South geopolitical zone of Nigeria if inevitably, an Anioma State in the South-South geopolitical zone of Nigeria is not feasible.

We declare to, in the long run, settle for Ndokwa State in the South-South geopolitical zone of Nigeria or any regional arrangement; an ambition, we, as a people, do not consider impossible nor a tall order. We have the resources, both human and material, to thrive.

“In conclusion therefore, Ndokwa rejects the present agitation for Anioma State as a part of the South East geopolitical zone and as canvassed by Senator Prince Ned Munir Nwoko, the Senator representing Delta North Senatorial District, in the Nigerian Senate.”

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2024/06/delta-group-nnu-rejects-inclusion-in-proposed-anioma-state/

"Ndokwa State"... Sounds melodious to the ear drums.

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Tuesday, February 16, 2010
Igbocentrism And Anioma Ethnic Identity
By Reverend (Dr.) Kunirum Osia

FOR decades we, Anioma people, have been buffeted back and forth by people attempting to impose a persona on us. Some described us as being neither here nor there. Others do not give us chance to define and describe who we are as a people. We know exactly who we are. We have no confusions about our geography and genealogy. We know that identity is like gold. Just as the gold bar stands behind a currency as a guarantee of its legal tender, so is identity to an individual or a group. The analogy is only partial, of course, the price of gold may rise or fall, but we tend to pride ourselves on the stability of our identity. Anioma ethnic identity is a value we must guard. In recent times we have contended with the intrusion into Anioma world what we might call the concept of, albeit, reality of Igbocentricism.

By Igbocentrism or Igbocentricity we mean an existential point of view that puts Igbo at the centre of Igbo people's cosmology. Central to Igbocentrism is the idea that people believed or assumed to be Igbo must acknowledge, understand and love their "Igboness" so as to understand and deal with non-Igbo. It is a conceptual approach to human relations from the Igbo point of view. It is an Igbo-centeredness of interpretation of such relations and quotidian realities. Because the vast majority of Anioma people speak dialects derived from the Igbo language, it is assumed that they are "Igbo." Anioma history records individuals from diverse origins. There are in Anioma the "Olukunmi" who speak a variant of Yoruba spoken around Owo. Ebu people in Anioma speak Igala as their mother tongue.

While language delimits cultural fields, it is not permanent because people have mastered more than one language. Language is one of many indices of a culture. Language is not enough to define who a people are. Because Americans or Australians speak English does not make them English. Because Mexicans, Cubans, or Argentineans speak Spanish does not make them Spaniards. The nationals of these countries will not introduce themselves as "English" simply because they speak English nor as Spaniards because they speak Spanish. Those of them who can trace their origin to England or Spain know that over time they have formed a new identity called "American," "Australian," "Mexican," "Cuban," or "Argentinean."

Located at the crossroads of diverse influences, Anioma has developed a syncretic culture rich in varied contributions, and we rightly can talk of an identity that is uniquely Anioma not replicable anywhere in Nigeria. Through culture contact or cultural cross-pollination, borrowing from contiguous neighbours, Anioma displays cultural syncretism in the real sense of the word. History notes that Anioma people trace their origins to Edo, Igala, Yoruba and Igbo. Ibusa (Igbo Uzo) and one part of Ogwashiuku trace their ancestry to Igbo. All other Anioma people trace their origins in entirety to Edo, Igala and Yoruba. From none other than Chief Dennis Osadebay, comes an uncontested account of the origin of 'Ahaba'. Eri, son of Achado, a king of Igala founded the towns of Aguleri, Umuleri, Igbariam and Nteje. If logic is any guide here, Eri we might reason would found a community with the people he knew, namely, Igala. Nnebisi the founder of 'Ahaba' was from Nteje founded by Eri the prince from Igala. Nnebisi married an Igala woman he had won as a prize from the Igala fishermen and traders who frequented 'Ahaba'. This is the verifiable story of the origin of 'Ahaba' (now Asaba).

Osadebay said that another migrant came from Benin and settled in 'Ahaba,' "and so the present natives of Asaba are descendants of Igala in the north, Benin in the west, and Ibo in the east" (Osadebay, Building a Nation, Macmillan, Nigeria Ltd, 1978 p.2). With this from Chief Osadebay, which to our best research has never been denied nor contradicted, we argue that Asaba people are the least Igbo among the very few segments of Anioma that claim Igbo ancestry.

With such a background, one would have thought that the identity of Anioma people would never be a matter of debate nor an issue that might unsettle the tranquility of informed mind. Yet, writings about Anioma people are replete with misconceptions, distortions, selectivity, inaccuracies and just blatant falsehood. Even some Anioma writers peddle stories diffracted into multiple and apocryphal histories that present every Anioma person originating from Nri in Igboland. May we remind the few of Igbo ancestry how much distance the passage of time and the vicissitudes of history have placed between them and their origin? Similarly, we would remind one or two traditional leaders who argue for extension of Igbo hegemony to Anioma, that they are bartering their honour and royalty for vacuous glory in Igboland, and that they do not represent Anioma people.




We reject attempts to Igbonize Anioma. We do not inhabit the same historical and cultural space with Igbos. When ethnicity becomes subject to the elaborations of cultural identity politics, it often develops into a focus of symbolic contestation. Those wanting Anioma to become "Anioma-Igbo" undermine the efforts of our founding fathers who christened us "ANIOMA." Osadebay puts everything in perspective when he stated, "Strictly speaking, Ibo is a linguistic group or a language, not a tribe, as all Ibo-speaking people do not claim origin from any common ancestor" (Osadebay op. cit. 1978, p.14).


Reckless utterances and writings coming from some Igbo people, through Ohaneze Ndigbo and their internet forum intellectuals, that the creation of Anioma state would increase Igbo states, damage Anioma cause. The quest for the creation of Anioma state preceded the creation of the 36 Nigerian states.

Identity is built on choices and commitments. By committing ourselves to Anioma causes our real selves develop. An obstacle to achieving identity is the temptation to avoid choices and postpone decisions. Let us proclaim Anioma by the Enu Ani language that we speak; by the Ika language that we speak; by the Ndokwa language that we speak; by the Olukunmi language that we speak and by the Igala language that we speak.


We should intensify our efforts on the creation of Anioma state where our people will be central characters rather than simple bit players, where the importance of our history lies in its significance for us rather than for others. We do not want to be a pawn simply to checkmate the contending and competing interests of other nationalities in the larger Nigerian collectivity. Our journey involves more than navigating the geography of political boundaries. It is a continuous mapping and remapping of the geography of our culture and identity. We no longer wish to be objects in the history of others rather we wish to be subjects of our own history. Our Anioma ethnic identity is cultural self-definition and philosophical affirmation of our self-determination as a people who see themselves at the crossroads of contemporary Nigeria. It is a refusal to accept the transposition of other people's interpretive categories on Anioma. We bear the name of Anioma with exalted pride, dignity and fidelity. We cherish our distinct identity and unique culture. So, efforts to fit Anioma into the constructs and schemata of Igbo provenance are futile.

Kunirum Osia is the former Founding National President of Anioma Association, USA, Inc.
ASABA POST NEWSWIRE at 5:22 PM


Source: AsabaPost dot Blog^spot dot com

DevilsEqual:
I'm asking u to mention one notable Yoruba person that ever claimed Lagos even as a non-indigene

I know of celebrities like Dagrin,Olamide, Reminisce, Wizkid,Davido and also politicians like James Faleke,Ambode,Yayi and co that never hide their original state of origin.


Just mention two popular Yoruba figures that ever claim to be lagosian as a non-indigene else u guys are just projecting your land-grabbing fantasy on others

I want factual cases

U ARE A BASTARD THAT DONT KNOW YOUR FATHER COMPOUND, IF YOU DO, U WONT BE HERE BECAUSE THIS IS A WASTED VENTURE.


I REPLY U, SO U DONT MISLEAD PEOPLE THAT'S ALL.

legitnow:
U LIVE IN IGBO LAND AND YOU ARE NOT IGBO YET INVOLVING YOURSELF IN IGBO PEOPLE AFFAIR.


IF U DEY CLOSE NOW, MY AK47 WILL DO THE REMAININ TALKING.


U SEE, U BLACK MONKEY ARE FULL OF EVIL AND THAT IS WHY NO PROGRESS.

I'm Yoruba and I live in Igboland
I mentioned my place of residence already, and it s Ukpo in Anambra state, Arthur Eze town and I even mentioned the school....

I can meet u in Awka if u so wish


I'm too big to come online to lie