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Re: JW 016 Why Some In Bible Times Claims Being Saved by MaxInDHouse(op): 9:22am On Jun 16, 2024
johnw47:
lost false jw mad max

his a real dope

so you agree with pope that it's ok to laugh at God
so long as you don't offend believers, of course you do

Pro_11:20 The perverse in heart are an abomination to the LORD
The highlighted makes you stupid so try to be liberal with people whether they agree with you or not.

The Pope is a diplomat as he is responsible for the welfare of all those viewing him as spiritual father. So what he meant is that it's better to mock the God of any God behind it's worshipers not in the presence of it's worshipers.
For instance if you enter your house and start laughing at Muslims bowing towards a direction and repeating the same phrase each time they do so or you mock the Catholics for reciting the same thing always with their rosary in their hands in your closet nothing will happen as you're mocking their God but it's stupidity mocking Muslims right there where they are bowing towards Mecca or Catholics repeatedly saying the same thing over and over with rosary in their hands.

Do you get it now?

However do you believe the Pope is a Christian?
Re: JW 016 Why Some In Bible Times Claims Being Saved by johnw47: 9:40am On Jun 16, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
The highlighted makes you stupid
lost false jw mad max

your highlighted makes me truthful, would you like me to prove it yet again

MaxInDHouse: so try to be liberal with people whether they agree with you or not.
The Pope is a diplomat as he is responsible for the welfare of all those viewing him as spiritual father. So what he meant is that it's better to mock the God of any God behind it's worshipers not in the presence of it's worshipers.
For instance if you enter your house and start laughing at Muslims bowing towards a direction and repeating the same phrase each time they do so or you mock the Catholics for reciting the same thing always with their rosary in their hands in your closet nothing will happen as you're mocking their God but it's stupidity mocking Muslims right there where they are bowing towards Mecca or Catholics repeatedly saying the same thing over and over with rosary in their hands.
Do you get it now?
However do you believe the Pope is a Christian?
very dum defender of the pope who put believers before God

what he said/meant is
quote: "you can laugh at God but don't offend believers", end quote

i say; "you don't laugh at God, whether it offends believers or not"

Pro_11:20 The perverse in heart are an abomination to the LORD
Re: JW 016 Why Some In Bible Times Claims Being Saved by MaxInDHouse(op): 10:06am On Jun 16, 2024
johnw47:
Very dum defender of the pope who put believers before God.
Is the Pope and Catholics Christians? smiley
Re: JW 016 Why Some In Bible Times Claims Being Saved by johnw47: 10:12am On Jun 16, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Is the Pope and Catholics Christians? smiley
lost false jw mad max

you know i'm not interested in chatting with false jw's/the devils mob
i will continue to occasionally show up a few of your many lies and a little of your much confusion etc.
Re: JW 016 Why Some In Bible Times Claims Being Saved by MaxInDHouse(op): 10:25am On Jun 16, 2024
johnw47:
lost false jw mad max
you know i'm not interested in chatting with false jw's/the devils mob
i will continue to occasionally show up a few of your many lies and a little of your much confusion etc.
HYPOCRITE! cheesy
Re: JW 016 Why Some In Bible Times Claims Being Saved by johnw47: 10:34am On Jun 16, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
HYPOCRITE! cheesy
Ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


lost false jw mad max

of course you are a habitual liar and false accuser like the devil and cannot quote the hypocrisy

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

Rev_12:10  Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.
Re: JW 016 Why Some In Bible Times Claims Being Saved by johnw47:
MaxInDHouse:
HYPOCRITE! cheesy
Ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool


lost false jw mad max

that's typical of u false jw's, you scream out a lie and then run:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.
Re: JW 016 Why Some In Bible Times Claims Being Saved by bobestman(m): 11:42am On Jun 16, 2024
LOL
You can be humble but ignorant
You can be humble but lack knowledge of who the true God is
Salvation belongs to the Knowledgeable ones
My ppl are destroyed for lack of knowledge
If you are humble but lack knowledge of who God is and his Ways, you can be destroyed

Salvation = Knowledge + Humility

Copy that
Re: JW 016 Why Some In Bible Times Claims Being Saved by MaxInDHouse(op): 4:41pm On Jun 16, 2024
bobestman:
LOL
You can be humble but ignorant
You can be humble but lack knowledge of who the true God is
Salvation belongs to the Knowledgeable ones
My ppl are destroyed for lack of knowledge
If you are humble but lack knowledge of who God is and his Ways, you can be destroyed
Salvation = Knowledge + Humility
Copy that
It's humility that will help sincere individuals to gain the knowledge of God so humility comes first with humility accurate knowledge is gained without humility even an insane will claim to be knowledgeable! smiley
Re: JW 016 Why Some In Bible Times Claims Being Saved by johnw47: 10:18pm On Jun 16, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
It's humility that will help sincere individuals to gain the knowledge of God so humility comes first with humility accurate knowledge is gained without humility even an insane will claim to be knowledgeable! smiley
lost false jw mad max

you talking about yourself there

tell us; "Is the Pope and Catholics Christians", and i will show you once again where you are wrong
Re: JW 016 Why Some In Bible Times Claims Being Saved by MaxInDHouse(op): 4:05pm On Jun 19, 2024
Before the decree bring forth, before the day pass as the chaff, before the fierce anger of the LORD come upon you, before the day of the LORD'S anger come upon you.
Seek ye the LORD, all ye MEEK of the earth, which have wrought his judgment; seek righteousness, seek MEEKNESS: it may be ye shall be hid in the day of the LORD'S anger. Zephaniah 2:2-3

Blessed are the MEEK: for they shall inherit the earth. Matthew 5:5


But why is MEEKNESS so important?.

Well humans always find it difficult to humble themselves in the face of knowledge so even though they realized that the person who who is talking is knowledgeable and wiser 99.9% of humans will start arguing blindly they thought by agreeing with facts they've been conquered whereas wisdom builds strong bond between two or more people {Matthew 18:20} but when each person is puffed up with pride there won't be cooperation and lack of cooperation means no progress!
Re: JW 016 Why Some In Bible Times Claims Being Saved by achorladey:
bobestman:
LOL
You can be humble but ignorant
You can be humble but lack knowledge of who the true God is
Salvation belongs to the Knowledgeable ones
My ppl are destroyed for lack of knowledge
If you are humble but lack knowledge of who God is and his Ways, you can be destroyed

Salvation = Knowledge + Humility

Copy that
Na to use his tactics on am

He can claim to be humble and be peddling lies and manipulations as accurate knowledge everywhere even saying others are not humble. grin grin grin grin
Re: JW 016 Why Some In Bible Times Claims Being Saved by MaxInDHouse(op): 8:26am On Jun 27, 2024
Only for the MEEK! Matthew 5:5 smiley

Re: JW 016 Why Some In Bible Times Claims Being Saved by johnw47: 9:20am On Jun 27, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Only for the MEEK! Matthew 5:5 smiley
Salvation Belongs To The Humble Ones Only!
lost false jw mad max

"humble/meek" that makes Salvation unattainable for you, oh defeater of six fully armed combatants single handed
and able to make a soldier eat and drink through his anus

not to mention your blasphemy of the Holy Spirit

u r so deluded, aren't you
Re: JW 016 Why Some In Bible Times Claims Being Saved by MaxInDHouse(op): 9:28am On Jun 27, 2024
Many of Jehovah's servants were once thugs as in violent men but after receiving training from the true God we become the meekest.

For instance Moses was a thug in fact a killer but after Jehovah had completed training him Jehovah could say about this once violent man:

Now the man Moses was by far the MEEKEST of all the men on the face of the earth. Numbers 12:3

Please has Moses been like that all the time?

NO! smiley
Re: JW 016 Why Some In Bible Times Claims Being Saved by johnw47: 9:46am On Jun 27, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Many of Jehovah's servants were once thugs as in violent men but after receiving training from the true God we become the meekest.
For instance Moses was a thug in fact a killer but after Jehovah had completed training him Jehovah could say about this once violent man:
Now the man Moses was by far the MEEKEST of all the men on the face of the earth. Numbers 12:3
Please has Moses been like that all the time?
NO! smiley
lost false jw mad max

more lies from you of course, moses was not a thug or a violent man, he was always meek, he killed a egyptian soldier in defence of a israelite who couldn't defend himself

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, that is his natural way of speaking, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

there is nothing meek in you calling people; mor on
there's nothing meek in you making the Holy Spirit to be a liar

you blind as can be:
2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them
Re: JW 016 Why Some In Bible Times Claims Being Saved by MaxInDHouse(op): 9:55am On Jun 27, 2024
johnw47:
he was always a meek man, he killed a egyptian soldier in defence of a israelite.
Someone singlehandedly killed a man buried the body and when he discovered it has been known he ran away yet you say he is always MEEK.
Is that Jesus' definition of Meekness? Luke 6:27-28
Chai, is it a must that you join others to accuse Jehovah's Witnesses? cheesy

Re: JW 016 Why Some In Bible Times Claims Being Saved by johnw47: 10:11am On Jun 27, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
Someone singlehandedly killed a man buried the body and when he discovered it has been known he ran away yet you say he is always MEEK.
Is that Jesus' definition of Meekness? Luke 6:27-28
Chai, is it a must that you join others to accuse Jehovah's Witnesses? cheesy
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool



lost false jw mad max

oh duh dum dum, all his life moses was a meek man
God's word says; "the man Moses was very meek, more than all people who were on the face of the earth"

and you oppose God's word trying to show that moses wasn't meek

just like you tried to show that Jehovah isn't all knowing, and tried to show that
Jehovah isn't Almighty


truly i don't accuse Jehovahs witnesses, i accuse you false Jehovahs witnesses



a senseless man has no knowledge, nor does a stupid man understand
Re: JW 016 Why Some In Bible Times Claims Being Saved by MaxInDHouse(op): 10:13am On Jun 27, 2024
johnw47:
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool



lost false jw mad max

oh duh dum dum, all his life moses was a meek man
God's word says; "the man Moses was very meek, more than all people who were on the face of the earth"

and you oppose God's word trying to show that moses wasn't meek

just like you tried to show that Jehovah isn't all knowing, and tried to show that
Jehovah isn't Almighty


truly i don't accuse Jehovahs witnesses, i accuse you false Jehovahs withennes



a senseless man has no knowledge, nor does a stupid man understand
If you're not a liar and idiot quote Jesus nah and prove how Moses was meek by killing a person and burying the body all by himself! cheesy
Re: JW 016 Why Some In Bible Times Claims Being Saved by johnw47:
MaxInDHouse:
If you're not a liar and idiot
lost false jw mad max

see how meek you are, oh deluded one

MaxInDHouse: quote Jesus nah and prove how Moses was meek by killing a person and burying the body all by himself! cheesy
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool

dum dum, i already proved moses was a meek man:

Num 12:3  Now the man Moses was very meek, more than all people who were on the face of the earth.


now false jw, go on trying to prove moses wasn't meek, like you tried to prove that Jehovah isn't all knowing
and like you tried to prove that Jehovah is not Almighty

Pro_11:20 The perverse in heart are an abomination to the LORD



you mad max would accuse Jesus of being a violent man because He overturned
tables in the temple, wouldn't you oh accuser like the devil:

Rev_12:10  Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.


over turning the table of sinners in the temple doesn't make Jesus a violent man, just like
moses defending a israelite doesn't make him a thug and a killer and a violent man, as you accused

God's word say's moses was a meek man, and of course you false jw try to prove that He wasn't
Re: JW 016 Why Some In Bible Times Claims Being Saved by MaxInDHouse(op): 11:21am On Jun 27, 2024
johnw47:
lost false jw mad max

see how meek you are, oh deluded one



ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool

dum dum, i already proved moses was a meek man:

Num 12:3  Now the man Moses was very meek, more than all people who were on the face of the earth.


now false jw, go on trying to prove moses wasn't meek, like you tried to prove that Jehovah isn't all knowing
and like you tried to prove that Jehovah is not Almighty

Pro_11:20 The perverse in heart are an abomination to the LORD



you mad max would accuse Jesus of being a violent man because He overturned
tables in the temple, wouldn't you oh accuser like the devil:

Rev_12:10  Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.


over turning the table of sinners in the temple doesn't make Jesus a violent man, just like
moses defending a israelite doesn't make him a thug and a killer and a violent man, as you accused

God's word say's moses was a meek man, and of course you false jw try to prove that He wasn't
You're just a fool because i asked you to quote Jesus and prove that Moses who killed and buried a man was MEEK at that point in time before his training.
For the benefit of other sincere followers Moses was not meek rather was a violent man but God saw in him the willingness to rescue the Israelites that's why God allowed him to become a shepherd for 40 years and there he learned to be MEEK!

I won't respond to your madness anymore because it's obvious you're just hungry and thirsty for my response! wink
Re: JW 016 Why Some In Bible Times Claims Being Saved by johnw47: 11:39am On Jun 27, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
You're just a fool because i asked you to quote Jesus and prove that Moses who killed and buried a man was MEEK at that point in time before his training.
For the benefit of other sincere followers Moses was not meek rather was a violent man but God saw in him the willingness to rescue the Israelites that's why God allowed him to become a shepherd for 40 years and there he learned to be MEEK!
I won't respond to your madness anymore because it's obvious you're just hungry and thirsty for my response! wink
Pro_16:30  He who winks his eyes does so to devise perverse things;


anything but meek, lost false jw mad max

truly jw imposter

moses was a meek man, God's word say so, and of course you oppose God Himself Who inspired this to be said:

Num 12:3 Now the man Moses was very meek, more than all people who were on the face of the earth.

but run away as you said, you always do oh fearful one:

rev 21:8 But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone; which is the second death.
Re: JW 016 Why Some In Bible Times Claims Being Saved by johnw47: 1:35pm On Jun 27, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
If you're not a liar and idiot quote Jesus nah and prove how Moses was meek by killing a person and burying the body all by himself! cheesy
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool



very dum lost false jw mad max

oh duh, moses wasn't meek because he killed a person
moses was meek because for one thing, God inspired to be said:
Num 12:3 Now the man Moses was very meek, more than all people who were on the face of the earth.

God said david was a man after God's heart
but you false jw would say; david
wasn't a man after God's heart because david had a man killed

u mad max often opposes God just like the devil does:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil,

Isa_32:6  For a fool speaks nonsense,
Re: JW 016 Why Some In Bible Times Claims Being Saved by MaxInDHouse(op): 2:24pm On Jun 27, 2024
Have you been trained to become one of the MEEK!
Re: JW 016 Why Some In Bible Times Claims Being Saved by MaxInDHouse(op): 7:38am On Aug 03, 2025
Our salvation is sure if we remain in the truth but in the first century the first set of disciples back then were majorly born again.
What does it mean to be a born again Christian?
Jesus supposed to rule the earth for one thousand years with 144,000 Israelites but both the Israelites and Jews rejected him so this delayed the selection of Christ's corulers as the choosing was to be extended to the people of other nations. Christ's corulers can no longer stay to rule with him in Jerusalem (the supposed signt of God's earthly Kingdom) because the city was rejected for their lack of faith in Christ and killing of God's prophets {Matthew 21:43; 23:37-38} that is why Jesus told his first sets of disciples that he is going back to heaven to prepare a place where they will stay to rule with him! John 14:1-3
This set of humans can't go to heaven (a place designed for spirit beings) with human bodies {1Corinthans 15:50} for this reason they need to be transformed into spirits meaning they need another body {1Corinthans 15:44} this is what Jesus meant by the term "born again" John 3:3-5
This first set of humans will escape what the Bible refers to as the final test.
After the destruction of wicked people the earth will be renovated into paradise and for a thousand years Jesus will rule the earth from heaven with his corulers who has been transported there as spirit beings or angels {Luke 20:34-36} but immediately after Jesus' thousand years reign Satan will be let loose again.
Remember that imperfect humans has been redeemed through the blood of Jesus Christ but this time each person will stand on his or her own to defend his faith in God as a perfect human at that time there is nothing Jesus blood can do again because those living then would have become perfect so whatever each person chooses to do is to be accounted for.
Satan will try everything in his power to make people follow him sadly most people will still follow Satan then the wrath of God will consume both Satan and all those that followed him then God will declare everlasting life on those that survive the final test.
But what about those who has been taken to heaven as Christ's corulers?
Remember Satan can't reach these ones because by then he has no means of going back to heaven {Revelations 12:11-12} that's why the scriptures says those in heaven at that time are SAVED! Revelations 20:5-6
So when the first set of disciples use that word "SAVED" they are referring to the chance they have as Christ's corulers who have nothing to do with Satan after their earthly mission!
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