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Re: Religious Crisis Hits South West, As Akintola Blasts A Christian Monarch by FatimaAbubakar(f): 10:18am On Jun 30, 2024
Brenbentondiaz:
Igbos. Smh.
Ekperima

Wetin Igbo for here?

Mpama!!!
Re: Religious Crisis Hits South West, As Akintola Blasts A Christian Monarch by PresidObi: 10:21am On Jun 30, 2024
Indabello:
Wow!
Look at how "peaceful" and "logical" you are in your argument; throwing tantrums and hauling insults I believe is part of being peaceful in your culture and believe.

Oga! even the President of Nigeria cannot query anyone for travelling for pilgrimage; why don't you tell us where he was invested with the powers to decide parts of the constitutionally guaranteed rights that Ogbomoso people can enjoy and those they can't.

Is the Imam answerable to him?

As a pastor, what's his business with happenings in the Muslim world?

Just remember, " injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere"

I hope when the Sultan of Sokoto queries the archbishop of Sokoto diocese for traveling to Jerusalem without his permission and orders him to return back immediately, you will say the same thing?
Please dont spread this crisis to Sokoto, this is a south west case.
Re: Religious Crisis Hits South West, As Akintola Blasts A Christian Monarch by Wickeddy: 10:34am On Jun 30, 2024
We will soon ban the king that knelt before adeboye for prayer,and the imam that carry Arab religion for head like gala.this is why we don't want either Christian and islam in Yoruba land.
Re: Religious Crisis Hits South West, As Akintola Blasts A Christian Monarch by PresidObi: 10:36am On Jun 30, 2024
Wickeddy:
We will soon ban the king that knelt before adeboye for prayer,and the imam that carry Arab religion for head like gala.this is why we don't want either Christian and islam in Yoruba land.
What religion did the Late SL. Akintola practice?
Re: Religious Crisis Hits South West, As Akintola Blasts A Christian Monarch by Brenbentondiaz: 10:59am On Jun 30, 2024
FatimaAbubakar:
Ekperima

Wetin Igbo for here?

Mpama!!!
Elede. You think people don't know you and your people's nuisance value? Lolz. Omo obo.
Re: Religious Crisis Hits South West, As Akintola Blasts A Christian Monarch by Richtaiwo(m): 11:02am On Jun 30, 2024
sreamsense:
The matter does not start there, king's imams are always under authority of the kings in Yoruba land, but because there is a quarrel on ground between imam (ayilara), his family that proved him to be bastard to their family and unqualify to be imam and the king they went to to settle the quarrel. Many muslims that have been trying to settle the matter between the imam and the his so called family found out the king is innocent.

Imam supposed to come from ayilara family, but this imam that comes out as present imam is dishown by the extended family that he never comes from them and that they don't know him. The presented facts to prove that imam forged all credentials proving to be from that family.

Many muslims leaders that the king asked to settle the matter for them found out imam was not from that family, but the imam was using logic and his education to instigate Muslims in Ogbomosho to get sympathy shade from Muslims. Many muslims say they want him, but his family say it is their turn and the imam is not from their family.

The imam is also very disrespectful to the king because he is a christian and never wanted to submit to him. Muric that suppose to settle the matter is just supporting violence in Islam. Did any pastor, bishop disrespect Muslim kings in the past that warrant getting query that muric is asking for ?

Christians are law abiding, they give respect to any king irrespective of religion, but Muslims don't like submitting to kings that are not Muslim. King Imam (not all imam) are always carry kings along just like school chaplain will first submit to authority of the school.

Muric that suppose to settle the matter only knows how to fuel the matter. Islam brought foreign Arab culture to oppose their own culture. King has never violated any rule in this matter and government of oyo state should step in to settle the matter and restore authority back to the king
This one just hauling insults and fuming all over the thread. And to think he is even ignorant of what muric is demanding for is the most amusing part of these his useless epistles. Now, lemme explain to you like a kindergarten, since your problem is all about insulting, same approach you and your ilk adopted in campaigning for obi.
The oba querried the imam for proceeding to Hajj without a letter seeking for permission from him. Muric is now demanding to know if G.Os, Bishops and pastors have been writing similar letters when they travel for their religious obligations. Therefore, the oba should prove with a copy of such letters from the G.Os, Bishops and pastors. Where did muric ask for the query issued to them? I know this is too difficult for people with extremely low IQ to understand. You can now go continue with your insults, after all, that is what you and your ilk are well known for. Bye.
Re: Religious Crisis Hits South West, As Akintola Blasts A Christian Monarch by PresidObi: 11:09am On Jun 30, 2024
Richtaiwo:
This one just hauling insults and fuming all over the thread. And to think he is even ignorant of what muric is demanding for is the most amusing part of these his useless epistles. Now, lemme explain to you like a kindergarten, since your problem is all about insulting, same approach you and your ilk adopted in campaigning for obi.
The oba querried the imam for proceeding to Hajj without a letter seeking for permission from him. Muric is now demanding to know if G.Os, Bishops and pastors have been writing similar letters when they travel for their religious obligations. Therefore, the oba should prove with a copy of such letters from the G.Os, Bishops and pastors. Where did muric ask for the query issued to them? I know this is too difficult for people with extremely low IQ to understand. You can now go continue with your insults, after all, that is what you and your ilk are well known for. Bye.
You are the one throwing insults and claiming victim at the same time.

What's different from what he said and what you said apart from replacing letter with query. You just want to insult him. Stop claiming victim.
Re: Religious Crisis Hits South West, As Akintola Blasts A Christian Monarch by Alliswell248: 11:27am On Jun 30, 2024
agadez007:
“Yoruba is one” in the mud,every one except yoruba Christians know this
Yoruba Christians are naive,they are the ones doing “yoruba is one” while the yoruba Muslims believe they are muslims before being yoruba



Fun fact-majority of agberos in Lagos are Yoruba muslims
Keep deceiving yourself...
You can't divide the Yoruba tribe.

Christians and Muslims relate well here.

Try another gimmick.

Born losers and wailers.
Re: Religious Crisis Hits South West, As Akintola Blasts A Christian Monarch by Richtaiwo(m): 11:58am On Jun 30, 2024
PresidObi:
You are the one throwing insults and claiming victim at the same time.

What's different from what he said and what you said apart from replacing letter with query. You just want to insult him. Stop claiming victim.
So there is no difference between query and letter seeking permission in the context of this report and ensuing comments? Also, It's me insulting and claiming victim at the same time? I'm not surprised, you are not different from the same person you support. When he quoted me with heap of insult, I didn't bother replying him because that's what ipob do for living. I only quoted him when I observed he was spreading nonsense on the thread. If you notice, I don't engage ipob, I try as much as possible to avoid them because that is just like discussing with a stone. Pls don't bother to reply because I won't even read it.
Re: Religious Crisis Hits South West, As Akintola Blasts A Christian Monarch by PresidObi: 12:10pm On Jun 30, 2024
Richtaiwo:
So there is no difference between query and letter seeking permission in the context of this report and ensuing comments? Also, It's me insulting and claiming victim at the same time? I'm not surprised, you are not different from the same person you support. When he quoted me with heap of insult, I didn't bother replying him because that's what ipob do for living. I only quoted him when I observed he was spreading nonsense on the thread. If you notice, I don't engage ipob, I try as much as possible to avoid them because that is just like discussing with a stone. Pls don't bother to reply because I won't even read it.
So you agree you insulted him also?
Re: Religious Crisis Hits South West, As Akintola Blasts A Christian Monarch by Godwin4444: 12:12pm On Jun 30, 2024
Ezeama400:
Show Us Letters Of Permission Written By Pastors In Ogbomoso – Islamic Group, MURIC Tackles Monarch For Querying Chief Imam
Show Us Letters Of Permission Written By Pastors In Ogbomoso – Islamic Group, MURIC Tackles Monarch For Querying Chief Imam
June 29, 2024
NEWS
MURIC was reacting to the query issued by the king to the Chief Imam of Ogbomoso, Yunus Olusina Ayilara, for failing to notify him before embarking on his recent Hajj pilgrimage to Saudi Arabia.

The Muslim Rights Concern (MURIC) has warned the Soun of Ogbomoso, Oba Afolabi Ghandi Olaoye, not to provoke Muslims in his town by his actions.




letters of permission written by church General Overseers (G.Os), bishops and pastors in Ogbomosoland.



MURIC was reacting to the query issued by the king to the Chief Imam of Ogbomoso, Yunus Olusina Ayilara, for failing to notify him before embarking on his recent Hajj pilgrimage to Saudi Arabia.




The Executive Director of MURIC, Prof. Ishaq Akintola, in a statement, lamented that Oba Olaoye had provoked Muslims by his actions.



“The Soun of Ogbomoso wants the Chief Imam to take permission before going on pilgrimage to Makkah. This is akin to asking the Chief Imam to come to the palace every morning to take permission before going for salat (prayer) because Muslims go to Makkah to worship Allah and they also observe Salat for the same purpose."



“This is a clear infringement on Allah-given fundamental human rights of the Chief Imam and a violation of Section 38(i)&(ii) of the 1999 Constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria which guarantees freedom of worship. It should be noted that Hajj is the fifth pillar of Islam and it is enshrined in the divine scripture of Islam, the Glorious Qur’an (22:27),” Akintola said.



He said the "most annoying" part of the query was where the king commanded the Chief Imam to immediately return to Ogbomoso from faraway Saudi Arabia.



He said such implied that Oba Olaoye commanded the Chief Imam to abandon the worship of Allah in order to come and pay homage to him in his palace.



“Nobody is saying the Imam should disrespect the king but at the same time it should be reciprocal. The post of Chief Imam is an exalted office and Nigerian Muslims will not take kindly to its desecration. By issuing this query to our Chief Imam, the Soun of Ogbomoso has dragged our Chief Imam in the mud and shown complete disregard for his office and faith,” Akintola said.



He said, “We demand the withdrawal of this serpentine query unless he can show the world letters of permission written by church General Overseers (G.Os), bishops and pastors in Ogbomosoland.



"He must show the world applications submitted to past Souns by church leaders who wanted to travel to Jerusalem and other countries as well as those submitted to him since ascending the throne.



“In as much as Soun will not expect applications to travel out to Jerusalem from bishops and pastors, he should not demand same from our Chief Imam Agba.



"This query from Soun has caused the Muslim Community throughout Nigeria excruciating pain and created a wider gulf between Muslims and Christians.



“Soun is behaving as if Ogbomoso Muslims are under the Redeemed Church. As a former pastor of the Redeemed Church, he should know that he is not in the best position to escape suspicion from Muslims.



"The Chief Imam is not a traditional title holder at all. Neither is he one of the palace floor sweepers. So where is this query coming from? This query lacks wisdom, tact and caution. Soun should not set Ogbomoso on fire,” Akintola Said..


https://saharareporters.com/2024/06/29/show-us-letters-permission-written-pastors-ogbomoso-islamic-group-muric-tackles-monarch?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR19R-KMuD_xEsAomADf3YnLZ4bHWwh1zP22vEZV9ak1OhChPGK65hLS4Sw_aem_c9K-tPzc9bkg9SwR_otNaw

Nlfpmod nlfpmod
igbos pulling bullshit from their anus

Everyone is hustling for a better life but in their mind they believe it’s religion they can use to separate yorubas

It’s only a fool that does same thing repeatedly without getting a result, the Christian states dominated by yorubas were d first to win for asiwaju in d election n these fools still holding on to that rubbish
Re: Religious Crisis Hits South West, As Akintola Blasts A Christian Monarch by Godwin4444: 12:13pm On Jun 30, 2024
Chigorkizz:
This is their WORLD CUP
idiot this happened in Bauchi n not Yoruba land

Typical igbo with insensitivity
Re: Religious Crisis Hits South West, As Akintola Blasts A Christian Monarch by BlackyOne: 12:17pm On Jun 30, 2024
I wonder why Mumuric are dragging Christian into their issues with the king!

Can't they use other examples to drive their point?
Re: Religious Crisis Hits South West, As Akintola Blasts A Christian Monarch by FatimaAbubakar(f): 1:00pm On Jun 30, 2024
Brenbentondiaz:
Elede. You think people don't know you and your people's nuisance value? Lolz. Omo obo.
Shut up!!! You chronic ignoramus!!!
Re: Religious Crisis Hits South West, As Akintola Blasts A Christian Monarch by Wickeddy: 1:16pm On Jun 30, 2024
PresidObi:
What religion did the Late SL. Akintola practice?
Judaism like Kanugrin
Re: Religious Crisis Hits South West, As Akintola Blasts A Christian Monarch by Chigorkizz(m): 1:35pm On Jun 30, 2024
Godwin4444:
idiot this happened in Bauchi n not Yoruba land

Typical igbo with insensitivity
Local Yoruba slowpoke. Go and lift your World CUP. Skull lifting is your hobby.
Re: Religious Crisis Hits South West, As Akintola Blasts A Christian Monarch by Anguldi(m): 2:59pm On Jun 30, 2024
Richtaiwo:
Is a simple question, where is similar Letter of Permission written by G.Os, Bishops and pastors in Ogbomoso? Besides, since when did imams started seeking permission of traditional heads before carrying out religious obligations? Additionally, the Oba was a pastor of Redeemed Church, is the imam now answerable to him on islamic religious matters? Annoyingly, he even ordered the imam to return from Saudi Arabia immediately, wtf. I don’t think even a governor has that power.
Before your outburst, the mosque is under who's control huh. I want to believe it's under the palace.
Just like saying Chief of Army staff can't query Chaplain commander
Re: Religious Crisis Hits South West, As Akintola Blasts A Christian Monarch by Richtaiwo(m): 3:10pm On Jun 30, 2024
Anguldi:
Before your outburst, the mosque is under who's control huh. I want to believe it's under the palace.
Just like saying Chief of Army staff can't query Chaplain commander
The Chaplain Commander is under the chief of army staff because the imam is under the employee of the chief. Village or community imams are not under the traditional chief since he neither employs nor pay them salaries. Now let's even assume the imam is under the oba, it means the churches are also under him, the oba. The question now is, have the pastors, Bishops or G.Os been writing letters for permission to travel for their religious obligations. If yes, muric is demanding a copy of such letters as a proof. Nevertheless, the imam is not answerable to the oba on matters bordering islamic religious obligations. Otherwise, the archbishop of sokoto diocese should be answerable to the sultan of sokoto.
Re: Religious Crisis Hits South West, As Akintola Blasts A Christian Monarch by Anguldi(m): 3:22pm On Jun 30, 2024
Richtaiwo:
The Chaplain Commander is under the chief of army staff because the imam is under the employee of the chief. Village or community imams are not under the traditional chief since he didn't employ them or pay them salaries. Now let's even assume the imam is under the oba, it means the churches are also under him, the oba. The question now is, have the pastors, Bishops or G.Os been writing letters for permission to travel for their religious obligations. If yes, muric is demanding a copy of such letters as a proof. Nevertheless, the imam is not answerable to the oba on matters bordering islamic religious obligations. Otherwise, the archbishop of sokoto diocese should be answerable to the sultan of sokoto.
Some mosque are built and maintained under the Palace. I don't mean the ones owned by different sect.

Don't forget that some shrines are under the palace and that the king is the custodian of his tradition before any other thing
Re: Religious Crisis Hits South West, As Akintola Blasts A Christian Monarch by Philistine(m): 3:33pm On Jun 30, 2024
MASTAkiLLAh:
This man is always threatening people abeg
He is Yoruba Muslim, they are mentally and intellectually superior to Yoruba christians
Re: Religious Crisis Hits South West, As Akintola Blasts A Christian Monarch by Klinee:
Ajens1991:
The Muric man is right in his own judgement, did the king sponsor him to mecca that he would need permission to travel? No..

Likewise, the government (both local,state and federal) should not sponsor such trip AGAIN!

Everybody is free to go to where they want, provided they do not place any financial burden on others for their religious trip ...

Thank you
It's obligatory duty of the Oba to appoint the chief Imam of the town, and the constitution guiding the town states that, if chief Imam will travel to hajj, there must be a permission from the Oba before he embark on such journey with other members of the community.
But the chief Imam went to hajj without his permission probably act of sentiment that Oba is a christian. Therefore Oba should query the chief Imam accordingly because he violated the law of the land.
Re: Religious Crisis Hits South West, As Akintola Blasts A Christian Monarch by Richtaiwo(m): 3:45pm On Jun 30, 2024
Anguldi:
Some mosque are built and maintained under the Palace. I don't mean the ones owned by different sect.

Don't forget that some shrines are under the palace and that the king is the custodian of his tradition before any other thing
The report says, Chief Imam of Ogbomoso. Does that sound like Chief Imam of Oba's Palace? If the mosque is in his Palace, of course he plays the piper and therefore dictates its tune exactly same way the Chaplain in the army is under the control of the chief of army staff.
Re: Religious Crisis Hits South West, As Akintola Blasts A Christian Monarch by Anguldi(m): 3:51pm On Jun 30, 2024
Richtaiwo:
The report says, Chief Imam of Ogbomoso. Does that sound like Chief Imam of Oba's Palace? If the mosque is in his Palace, of course he plays the piper and therefore dictates its tune exactly same way the Chaplain in the army is under the control of the chief of army staff.
Roger that bro
Re: Religious Crisis Hits South West, As Akintola Blasts A Christian Monarch by efighter: 3:52pm On Jun 30, 2024
Akenzua01:
The most confused tribe grin

Ijebu and Benin people are not among though, because Ijebu people are not yorubas, but attachees by force won't allow them be.
This one is suffering from generational inherited psychiatric disorders
Re: Religious Crisis Hits South West, As Akintola Blasts A Christian Monarch by Richtaiwo(m): 3:53pm On Jun 30, 2024
Klinee:
It's obligatory duty of the Oba to appoint the chief Imam of the town, and the constitution guiding the town states that, if chief Imam will travel to hajj, there must be a permission from the Oba before he embark on such journey with other members of the community.
But the chief Imam went to hajj without his permission probably act of sentiment that Oba is a christian. Therefore Oba should query the chief Imam accordingly because he violated the law of the law.
Where did you get the bolded from? Is it also the oba's obligatory duty to appoint pastors, Bishops and G.Os? Last time I checked, the only obligatory duty of oba's in appointment is the appointment of smaller chieftaincy holders, not religious leaders. And religious leaders are not by any chance answerable to obas. Just like saying it is the duty of Sultan of sokoto to appoint the Archbishop of sokoto diocese and the archbishop must get permission from the sultan before proceedingfor any religiousobligations. How does that sound?
Re: Religious Crisis Hits South West, As Akintola Blasts A Christian Monarch by sreamsense: 7:24pm On Jun 30, 2024
Richtaiwo:
This one just hauling insults and fuming all over the thread. And to think he is even ignorant of what muric is demanding for is the most amusing part of these his useless epistles. Now, lemme explain to you like a kindergarten, since your problem is all about insulting, same approach you and your ilk adopted in campaigning for obi.
The oba querried the imam for proceeding to Hajj without a letter seeking for permission from him. Muric is now demanding to know if G.Os, Bishops and pastors have been writing similar letters when they travel for their religious obligations. Therefore, the oba should prove with a copy of such letters from the G.Os, Bishops and pastors. Where did muric ask for the query issued to them? I know this is too difficult for people with extremely low IQ to understand. You can now go continue with your insults, after all, that is what you and your ilk are well known for. Bye.
You are too ignorant on the matter you claimed you understood. Why repeating same cleared message from muric that was well understood to cover up your ignorance you spit in your first thread? You don't just jump on what Muric is asking for without understanding the matter from onset that makes Muric asked that kind of question.

Where was muric when different Muslims groups went to settle the quarrel only to find out king is never the problem, but imam and his so called family that disown him as bastard to their family? Did any pastor or Bishop disrespect the Muslim kings in Ogbomosho in the first place that muric will be using such analogy to promote Islamic violence?

Christians don't always have problems with any authority, so there is no need for the query for pastor or Bishop to be served. It is only Muslims that usually violate and disrespect authorities with their violence. If traditionalist is there, they will fight and disrespect him. If christians are there, they will fight and disrespect him. Islam can't do without violence, it is inherent in them.
Re: Religious Crisis Hits South West, As Akintola Blasts A Christian Monarch by Akenzua01: 7:30pm On Jun 30, 2024
efighter:
I am suffering from generational inherited psychiatric disorders
I know already.
Re: Religious Crisis Hits South West, As Akintola Blasts A Christian Monarch by Richtaiwo(m):
sreamsense:
You are too ignorant on the matter you claimed you understood. Why repeating same cleared message from muric that was well understood to cover up your ignorance you spit in your first thread? You don't just jump on what Muric is asking for without understanding the matter from onset that makes Muric asked that kind of question.

Where was muric when different Muslims groups went to settle the quarrel only to find out king is never the problem, but imam and his so called family that disown him as bastard to their family? Did any pastor or Bishop disrespect the Muslim kings in Ogbomosho in the first place that muric will be using such analogy to promote Islamic violence?

Christians don't always have problems with any authority, so there is no need for the query for pastor or Bishop to be served. It is only Muslims that usually violate and disrespect authorities with their violence. If traditionalist is there, they will fight and disrespect him. If christians are there, they will fight and disrespect him. Islam can't do without violence, it is inherent in them.
Still flaunting ignorance and lack of comprehension. Go back to the report and read it very slowly, you will see what muric is asking for. Muric is not demanding to know if query was ever issued to pastors or not. Now to help you again. The oba querried the imam for not writing a letter of permission to proceed on pilgrimage. Now muric is demanding to know if pastors and Bishops have also been writing similar letters whenever they are travelling for religious obligations. The oba should prove this with a copy of similar Letter from the pastors. How this should be difficult for even a kindergarten to understand still beats me. Additionally, nobody gives a damn if there is a tussle between the imam and his family and that is nobody's business. People's business is when did imams become answerable to traditional chiefs. Just like saying the Archbishop of sokoto diocese is answerable to the sultan of sokoto which we all know is not the case.
Re: Religious Crisis Hits South West, As Akintola Blasts A Christian Monarch by sreamsense: 8:31pm On Jun 30, 2024
Indabello:
Wow!
Look at how "peaceful" and "logical" you are in your argument; throwing tantrums and hauling insults I believe is part of being peaceful in your culture and believe.

Oga! even the President of Nigeria cannot query anyone for travelling for pilgrimage; why don't you tell us where he was invested with the powers to decide parts of the constitutionally guaranteed rights that Ogbomoso people can enjoy and those they can't.

Is the Imam answerable to him?

As a pastor, what's his business with happenings in the Muslim world?

Just remember, " injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere"

I hope when the Sultan of Sokoto queries the archbishop of Sokoto diocese for traveling to Jerusalem without his permission and orders him to return back immediately, you will say the same thing?
Very unfortunate that you even take pride in your ignorance. This imam is under jurisdiction of the king. The king was not talking to all imam, but particular about the one that falls under his jurisdiction. It like vice chancellor or governor talking to chaplain pastor in charge of government house.

It is because of quarrel on ground that made the imam to misbehaved, it is not new to all the king and imam under jurisdiction of the king. Muslims just like electing thugs as their leaders in many instances. The imam is very unruely and disrespectful. Christians always respect all kings and leaders irrespective of their religions ,but Muslims are always too violent and disrespectful especially once the leader is a christian or traditionalists.

How many pastors and Bishops have disrespected or insulted Muslim kings or their leaders in the past that will even attract query? None! Christians are law abiding. It is usually Muslims that are always disrespecting or fighting with other leaders. They even fight among themselves and keep jailing themselves over minor issues that can be resolved.

Where was muric when different Islamic groups were doing their best to settle the quarrel among the imam, his so called kangaroo family and the king? Different Islamic groups reported that the problem was never the king, but the imam and the family that refered to him as bastard not from their family and faulted all credentials he paraded to prove he belongs to the family as fake.

The imam is just taking the violent ignorant Muslims in Ogbomosho as a shade by inciting them to violence and against the king. Islam only talk about peace with their mouth, but never practice it in their actions, not only in Nigeria but worldwide
Re: Religious Crisis Hits South West, As Akintola Blasts A Christian Monarch by sreamsense: 8:52pm On Jun 30, 2024
Richtaiwo:
Still flaunting ignorance and lack of comprehension. Go back to the report and read it very slowly, you will see what muric is asking for. Muric is not demanding to know if query was ever issued to pastors or not. Now to help you again. The oba querried the imam for not writing a letter of permission to proceed on pilgrimage. Now muric is demanding to know if pastors and Bishops have also been writing similar letters whenever they are travelling for religious obligations. The oba should prove this with a copy of similar Letter from the pastors. How this should be difficult for even a kindergarten to understand still beats me. Additionally, nobody gives a damn if there is a tussle between the imam and his family and that is nobody's business. People's business is when did imams become answerable to traditional chiefs. Just like saying the Archbishop of sokoto diocese is answerable to the sultan of sokoto which we all know is not the case.
You are still ignorant and refuse to learn. The king was not just giving query to random imam. This imam is under jurisdiction of the king. Is like vice chancellor or the state governor giving query to chaplain pastor in the government house. This imam is under jurisdiction of the king's mosque, he is answerable to the king. But because there is quarrel on ground, that is why the imam behaved unruly and disrespectful to the king.

Many Islamic groups had been sent before to settle the quarrel between the king, imam and his so called kangaroo family. Different Islamic groups found out the fault was not from the king, but imam and his so called family that disown him as bastard not from their family, and faulted all credentials he paraded to prove he is from the Ayilara family that suppose to present current imam.

Muric knew this quarrel that is ungoing, but purposely came out with that message to logically insult the king and defend the imam. But since you are too ignorant, you picked what you like in the message to cover up your ignorance about the real matter and its root. Even the imam knows he is answerable to the king, but because he hates the king from the onset being christian and pastor.

The imam becomes more unruely and started using Muslims in Ogbomosho as shade to coverup for his attrocities and then using logic to instigate people against the king. It is not a must to comment if you don't understand root of the matter, you can just join Online Comment Reader Association (OCRA) or try to get better understanding before you comment.

Christian pastors and Bishops never disrespected Muslims kings in the past, so there was no need for query to be served as muric expected. It is only muslims that are always unruely or disrespectful to authority especially christians or traditionalists leaders. Traditionalists have proven many times that they are even more matured and peaceful than Muslims. Violence is in them, there is no court in Nigeria Muslim Alfa have not even carried another Alfas to due to inhouse Islamic fighting among themselves not to talk of others
Re: Religious Crisis Hits South West, As Akintola Blasts A Christian Monarch by sreamsense: 9:06pm On Jun 30, 2024
Richtaiwo:
Where did you get the bolded from? Is it also the oba's obligatory duty to appoint pastors, Bishops and G.Os? Last time I checked, the only obligatory duty of oba's in appointment is the appointment of smaller chieftaincy holders, not religious leaders. And religious leaders are not by any chance answerable to obas. Just like saying it is the duty of Sultan of sokoto to appoint the Archbishop of sokoto diocese and the archbishop must get permission from the sultan before proceedingfor any religious obligations. How does that sound?
You still continue to display your ignorance out of religion sentiment. This king is under jurisdiction of the king. The king was not just talking to any imam. Putting mosque under jurisdiction of the king has been faulted by many knowledgeable Islamic scholars in Yoruba land due to many loopholes. Christians are more organized, tolerant, educated and structured, there won't be issue like this happen to christians. Islam is structured in that way thinking all kings will always be Muslims or someone they like. Even imam knows he is answerable to the king, he purposely disrespect the king because of quarrel on ground and his hatred to the christian king from onset
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sreamsense:
You are still ignorant and refuse to learn. The king was not just giving query to random imam. This imam is under jurisdiction of the king. Is like vice chancellor or the state governor giving query to chaplain pastor in the government house. This imam is under jurisdiction of the king's mosque, he is answerable to the king. But because there is quarrel on ground, that is why the imam behaved unruly and disrespectful to the king.

Many Islamic groups had been sent before to settle the quarrel between the king, imam and his so called kangaroo family. Different Islamic groups found out the fault was not from the king, but imam and his so called family that disown him as bastard not from their family, and faulted all credentials he paraded to prove he is from the Ayilara family that suppose to present current imam.

Muric knew this quarrel that is ungoing, but purposely came out with that message to logically insult the king and defend the imam. But since you are too ignorant, you picked what you like in the message to cover up your ignorance about the real matter and its root. Even the imam knows he is answerable to the king, but because he hates the king from the onset being christian and pastor.

The imam becomes more unruely and started using Muslims in Ogbomosho as shade to coverup for his attrocities and then using logic to instigate people against the king. It is not a must to comment if you don't understand root of the matter, you can just join Online Comment Reader Association (OCRA) or try to get better understanding before you comment.

Christian pastors and Bishops never disrespected Muslims kings in the past, so there was no need for query to be served as muric expected. It is only muslims that are always unruely or disrespectful to authority especially christians or traditionalists leaders. Traditionalists have proven many times that they are even more matured and peaceful than Muslims. Violence is in them, there is no court in Nigeria Muslim Alfa have not even carried another Alfas to due to inhouse Islamic fighting among themselves not to talk of others
This one is still here talking about query. Muric is asking if pastors and Bishops have been writing letters seeking permission to travel for their religious obligations and you are still her typing epistles about query. Answer this and stop typing useless epistles. And if you can't answer that, don't quote me again, enough of the meaningless circus.
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