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raumdeuter:
Which Yoruba leader invited Ojuku to invade the West

Coldie:
I thought u guys said ojukwu appointed his kin’s man from the east to head the Midwest, so what happened?

T8ksy:
Awo said, if the federal govt allows the Eastern region to leave the Union (by omission or commission) then the western region too, will exit the union.
Now,the question, a rationale mind would ask himself is, " has the federal govt allowed the Eastern region to leave the Union after, Ojukwu declared biafra?

raumdeuter:
English is a problem

The key word by Awo is that If the Eastern region is ALLOWED

raumdeuter:
Ojuku appointed a fellow Ibo to govern the midwest against Banjos advice to appoint a local non Ibo man after toppling David Ejoor

T8ksy:
Did you noticed how these mischievous beings twisted it to "forced out"?

raumdeuter:
They think by rewriting history in their mischievous ways, they will cover the misdeeds of the past

An example is this thread with coldie twisting and turning trying to rewrite history

BentizilL0:
That letter is rubbish and disrespectful.. What's Ojukwu business with Western region or Midwest?.

Is Ojukwu trying to say his Eastern region has eyes and other regions are blind and cannot make decision themselves?.

Coldie:
We are not accessing if ojukwu was right or not. We are accessing the letter, and I broke the letter piece by piece and asked what was wrong in the issues brought up by the letter.

I have broken it down piece by piece and added more context, but u people are just interpreting the parts u want and ignoring other sides.

What is the relationship between the letter and if ojukwu ran away? We only came here to talk about the letter,

If u want to talk about ojukwu actions at the end of the war, u can do that but I am here to talk strictly about this letter and if there’s any Igbo agenda on it

raumdeuter:
They think by rewriting history in their mischievous ways, they will cover the misdeeds of the past

An example is this thread with coldie twisting and turning trying to rewrite history

Intrepid01:
You are being smart by half but some of us can see through your hypocrisy.

I pointed out the areas where you weren’t objective. Secondly, I brought in Ojukwu’s decision to run away because your overall assessment isn’t objective.

BTW there’s a difference between “assessment” and “accessing”….the applicable word here is assessment.

raumdeuter:
They think by rewriting history in their mischievous ways, they will cover the misdeeds of the past

An example is this thread with coldie twisting and turning trying to rewrite history

BentizilL0:
That letter is rubbish and disrespectful.. What's Ojukwu business with Western region or Midwest?.

Is Ojukwu trying to say his Eastern region has eyes and other regions are blind and cannot make decision themselves?.

paramakina202:
It was a tactical move to end the war before it even started.If Banjo had succeeded Biafra war wouldn't have happened because Nigeria army would have been defeated in Lagos and there is no way what was left of Nigeria army can stand Biafra Rep,Midwest and Yoruba independent nations.

Coldie:
The issue is, ojukwu could have told an igbo man to lead the army that marched towards the west, if that happened these people would say it’s an igbo agenda, ojukwu told a Yoruba man to march towards the west, it’s still an igbo agenda.

Ojukwu made many mistakes, but it’s obvious his intentions were not subjugation or annexation.

Confusedlady said I was beating around the bush, but her own interpretation of the letter is lopsided with selective judgements, you can’t say

Someone wants to annex a place when he made this statement:

In other words, our sovereignty and break with Nigeria is irrevocable. Nothing must, therefore be said or done by you or any member of the Liberation Army to give a contrary impression.

You can’t say he wants to subjugate a place when he also made this statement:

4. I do not need to remind you that Biafra regards all Yoruba as friends. As such everything should be done, to ensure the minimum force and loss of life are involved in achieving the objective of liberation.

This here was proven by the biafran forces who refused to utilise absolute force in entering the west. It is on record that the group that stopped the Biafra forces were made up of a few group of hunters.

If they used absolute force they could have torn through them easily. But that wasn’t what they were there for

softy:
It was obvious that Ojukwu was a stagnant problem who had a messianic tendency/syndrome to think that:

1. Yoruba people needed to secede, as at that time, when there is/was no history that supports/supported that claim. who declared Biafra secession? Yoruba or Igbo people??

2. Ojukwu wanted to use Col. Banjo to achieve his aim, instead of him to beg him do it, he was chest beating and very arrogant.
3. Ojukwu wanted to lure Banjo into the dirty water just a like a pig.
4. Ojukwu called Yoruba" Gallant Men". Sometimes, inferiors know the extent of their Superiors' powers
5. The guy called Ojukwu was a very good manipulator, liar, impostor, arrogant, know it all, fanatics, branded with "I better pass you, always' Syndrome.
He knew this, then his dogs went through the miscalculated efforts of trying to get Ore?


Ojukwu thought that Yoruba people are clueless....lolz

Coldie:
I thought offers were made to some people and they declined?

Before ojukwu settled with okonkwo?

Outright molestation, harassment and killing of non-Ibo civilians occurred on a daily basis. At night "suspected saboteurs" were fished out of their homes and arrested. The Hausa community in the Lagos street area of Benin and other parts of the state were targeted for particularly savage treatment, in part a reprisal for the pogroms of 1966, but also out of security concerns that they would naturally harbor sympathies for the regime in Lagos. But non-Hausas were just as badly treated.

In a pattern of behavior that can only be described as self-destructive, the "liberation" force went molesting, raping, kidnapping, torturing, detaining and even killing local figures whose support they badly needed (14, 17). For example, Mr. J. O Adeola (Commissioner of Police), Mr. Olu Akpata (Permanent Secretary), Mr. Sam Umweni (of Radio Nigeria, Benin) and Mr. J Imoukhuede (Head of the civil service), were abducted from Benin and taken back to Biafra. They remained in prison (without trial) until the end of the war (17).

In addition to the scourge and humiliation of the occupation itself, fleeing Biafran soldiers carried out all kinds of unspeakable acts of brutality against the local population (17, 18). At the Urhonigbe Rubber Plantation, for example, hundreds of Midwesterners were summarily shot by regular and militia units which had already blazed a 'scorched-earth' trail of terror through Benin-West division

Coldie:
The north accused Igbos of a certain domination, in a country that was based on merit that saw the country flourish.

Only for them to do exactly the same thing and even do it worst, just to plunge the country into a mess.

Between 1967 and 2000 that the Igbos were sidelined and they dominated, let everyone be the judge.

People would say I am twisting history, but isn’t the facts there. Since you say there was igbo domination and you started a campaign to dominate the country, what happened to Nigeria since then?


Corruption took over, nepotism, everything sank completely.


Is this here a lie?


I don’t say igbos were saints and I don’t say we made the best decisions. But the truth remains that what ojukwu predicted in number 1 part of this letter happened before all our eyes. You saw all this happened and still had a way to still blame ojukwu who told u so for it.

raumdeuter:
Offer were made to 3 people, 2 declined, Ojuku refused one and chose his fellow Ibo to rule the midwest

Below was the experience of the midwesterners during the occupation

Coldie:
Bro you are not coming out plainly, the Biafran installation in the Midwest didn’t wake up and start attacking the people at the Midwest, there was some resistance from some people in the Midwest, especially the place Okotie Eboh hailed from, who still harboured some resentment over the killing of their son in the January 1966 coup.


Would u read this and say am lieing or twisting history.

I break things down so everyone reading this can understand the context of certain things happening and that happened.

raumdeuter:
Was that not the time Alex Ekwueme was Vice President of Nigeria

raumdeuter:
Was that not the time Alex Ekwueme was Vice President of Nigeria

raumdeuter:
Do you expect resistance from people who you invaded their land uninvited or you expect them to hand you roses?

The main question should be what was Ojukus forces looking for in the midwest and did he get permission from midwesterners to do that?

When midwesterners resisted, the Biafran occupotion forces went ahead to murder them in numbers

Coldie:
It took 30years for them to realise everything ojukwu said in that letter was true, didn’t a Hausa/fulani domination eventually happen?


They would skip those parts and focus on the parts that are based on assumptions.

Coldie:
My point here is you guys selective judgement and interpretation of the letter.

Same u guys said ojukwu wanted to meet victor banjo after he accomplished his goals so he could assassinate him, but no where in history was it ever written where ojukwu broke any agreement he had with anybody.

What history knew ojukwu for was he honoured agreement.

It was in history that northern soldiers who were in the east were allowed to return homes with their weapons, but when igbo soldiers were returning home, the moment the northern soldiers heard that their kinsmen had crossed the borders of the east, they descended on them.


But yeah ojukwu was the one with an agenda

Coldie:
The reason for this thread is not to talk about y ojukwu marched west, or y he invaded the Midwest.

I was mentioned here cause the op opened a thread about the letter in the heading and tagged it an igbo agenda. I went forward to break down every single thing written in the letter and asked you guys to tell me how the content of the letter meant any harm?

paramakina202:
Well the Yoruba nation prefer Hausa/Fulani domination and satisfied by playing second fiddle to them as far ndi Igbo are relegated in national politics.

Coldie:
My question to you is what is the relationship between ojukwu running away at the end of the war and this letter? How is this hypocrisy?

Since you say am being smart?

Please enlighten me?

tommy589:
As a Lagos boy that speaks Yoruba fluently, Ojukwu planned to help Yoruba in displacing Hausa-Fulani troops from Yorubaland