₦airaland Forum

Tflex01:
😂

Igbos nor dey rest onto Lagos matter na. That is why I always give them a very easy option; simply come and carry Lagos. 😆

Tflex01:
Engagements is what these guys seek and you are giving them the attention they want. If somebody says the master bedroom inside your apartment is not part of your house you will quickly realize that it's either the person is completely m@d or plainly mischievous and desperately seek attention.

Better to ignore them until they come around to carry Lagos.

aswani:
You will also find Yoruba spoken in various parts of Kwara, Kogi and Delta states.

T9ksy:
Honestly!!! Best advice, ever.
These guys are just flippin' mischievous . This topic has been deliberated myriad times on this platform but like a nightmare that refuses to go away, they keep bringing it up, again & again.

Okay, Lagos is not part of yorubaland . Can we have some peace, now?

helinues:
Just leave them. Them go soon know say na the same teeth dogs dey take play with his children him dey take bite them.

What's not lost that they have been looking for, hope they would find it

Paraman:
Ikwerre no b igbo

Ikinternational:
Igbos will just stand by as you burn their shops abi.
Funny you .. .... So tuff n don't bleed 👍🏾🔥

Mbanda:
You go explain taya. Benis are the rightful owners of Lagos deal with it.

Stoplying:
^^^^^^The evidence which I provided prove your statement to be completely false, Lagos was just a part of Benin and never a part of your imaginary "yorubaland". The only country called "yoruba" (yarri.ba) was oyo kingdom and it never extended to Lagos.
But de all know that logic doesn't matter to yoruba Dogma driven fanatics.

Stoplying:
Eyewitness writen precolonial text stating clearly that Lagos belongs to Benin:

"Captain Horseley called it Eco, and that is how the yebous refer to it; but it is not their land: it belongs to Benin, whom have named it Korame, you can recognise the Curamo from older Portuguese reports, just like Eko represents the Ichoo from Holland Hydrographs. Long ago Korame was linked to its metropolis by a very narrow piece of land contained between the great Laguna and the sea; but it has been a while since the Yebous have seazed that very narrow piece of land of which the eastern extremity was invaded by ouyo pirates; and Karamé remained isolated at the extremity of the great Laguna, while it continues to receive from Benin it's governor or political chief."

https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k5806879x.r=Y%C3%A9bou?rk=21459;2

Precolonial map of the region showing that Lagos (in its currents form) and its environs were part of Benin (see below)
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8595583b.r=Benin?rk=150215;2


Conclusion: Lagos and its environs were part of Benin.

I am not interested in debating things which have already been proven. Also I am not interested in talking to people whom have been harrassing me. (I also want to add that I am actually the only person whom has commented here who actually speaks french and that I am the person who posted the french caption and the book from which it is to nairaland. Some delusional people who don't speak a word of frecnh were trying to "debate" me on the translation of the text several months ago. Fools can only fool other fools.)

aswani:
Which part of modern day Lagos exactly was a part of Benin?

When did Yorùbá's conquer "Lagos Benin" to the point that the Benin Language was wiped out and replaced with Yoruba?

That there is some nexus between the Palace in Isale Eko and the one in Benin is undeniable, however how large was Isale Eko then compared to Lagos now (this is assuming it was Isale Eko as a whole that was related to Benin and not just the palace). Same as in Benin where there is a link between the palace, and not the people, and the Ooni's palace in Ilé Ifè (which is well documented on Nairaland).

You must he able to say or prove when modern Lagos which was Benin Land suddenly morphed into a Yoruba speaking environment including in its palaces.

You might not want to read it, but it is clear that Lagos is an extreme end of Yorubaland, same as Ekiti and some places in modern day Republic of Benin, and not just full of Yoruba speaking people.

aswani:
Same as in Benin where there is a link between the palace, and not the people, and the Ooni's palace in Ilé Ifè (which is well documented on Nairaland).

Stoplying:
So your level of lack of education is so high that you even admit you learn from nairaland 🤣🤣 dude you are only being indoctrinated by your fellow yoruba supremacists. Ife was nothing but a village ruled by a priest until 1912 when the British started urbanising it. Notice how there is no indigenous house in Ife, even though the British didn't attack Ife. Benin city on the other hand was burnt to the ground by the British.

Benin kingdom was an empire and it's capital is called Benin city. Ife was a village ruled by a priest, in the colonial era, awolowo elevated the Oni of ife into a position which is not his traditional position. The Oni of ife is just a priest, the current Oni of ife's father is still alive by the way, that is an abomination for a "king", but 'ot for a priest.

aswani:
E pa Egharevba's tome has been reposted here over and over again.

aswani:
I only brought Ifẹ up due to the similarity of Royal family only nexus to another kingdom.

Stoplying:
Yet an other case if selective blindness. Here is proof that Lagos was a part of Benin kingdom:

You are asking dumb and irrelevant questions. It is a well known fact that Lagos is a victim of over migration and I already stated this right here. At least read all which I have stated before asking questions which were already answered.

I love how you guys can just go a d start claiming other people's languages as being "yoruba dub language" but Benin kingdom is somehow not allowed to have sublanguages. For your information, all empires were multilingual except a very few modern ones which had a formal school system.

It is funny how you guys don't realise your indoctrination when you are claiming parts of Benin republic were in "yorubaland". Did you not notice the word "Benin" in Benin republic ? Why isn't it "oyo" republic or "Ife" republic or "Ibadan" republic or "yoruba" republic?
Your yorubaland is a work of fiction, as I already stated, "yoruba" is an other name for oyo and it is derived from "yarri.ba"

Stoplying:
Egheravba was a storyteller, his work was a yoruba-cebtruc work which can not be qualified as historical research. Though his yoruba professor's and his yoruba university as a whole was very happy with his propaganda. You see, unlike you, I'm intellectually evolved enough to do the historical research rather than quoting someone whom I claim did the historical research. We just don't operate at the same level of intellect.

aswani:
Now I know you are lumping two and two together and are getting twenty two.

E pa Egharevba can at no point be suggested to be writing Yoruba centric stuff, if anything, it is his words that provides a balance to the overtly Yoruba centric story that has been in play all this while.

Stoplying:
Which similarity? You absolutely have no idea of what you are talking about. This is what I find annoying with Nigerians, you want to comment on things before learning the first thing about them, and you want to be taken seriously while you are making a fool of yourself.

Stoplying:
Egheravba can only look neutral to a yoruba extremist who was fed on fairytales of how "Benin migrated from Ife" right from his birth.
You are not of a sufficient intellectual level to understand most of what I say. But let me repeat: egheravba did a poor work, his work was unsubstantiated and pro-yoruba. Actual historical research proves egheravba to be wrong. So to conclude with, egheravba did a yoruba-cebtruc propaganda.

aswani:
You find Nigerians not learning about things before commenting annoying, you that are saying E pa Egharevba is writing Yoruba centric stuff? Honestly I can't laugh. Log of wood, speck of dust.

Anyway, my point is, if you care to read and understand, there is clearly a nexus between Benin Royal family and Ilé Ifè. There "might" be a similar nexus between the palace at Isale Eko and Benin

The Benin Royal family connection to Ilé Ifẹ doesn't extend to the people, same as any potential Isale Eko palace connection to Benin certainty doesn't extend to the people .

Stoplying:
So, you just repeat your claim ? 🤣
How old are you ? It seems you are a teenager. You see, rather than repeating "nexus connection" again and again, if you had some sense, you would actually develop and explain what you mean.
I have explained to you how ridiculous your claim is. But you don't really understand my statement because you are not smart enough.
Again: while Ife was a village, Benin was an empire. How you could see a similarity between "nexus connection" between the emperor of Benin and the priest of Ife village is beyond me. Where exactly is that "nexus connection" ? Boy if you start talking about some fairytale like oduduwa 😤

aswani:
At this point, I think it's best to leave the stage for you. You jus dey catch cruise.

biaframaster200:
Ibo people are the problem of this country wetin consign Una with someone land....

You are pained by people progress anf advancement ... because of this wrong information...most of the official activities in Lagos is translate and done in Yoruba language ...still you are not pained and not convinced...

If Yoruba speaking state is not a Yoruba. .. the. An English-speaking country like England is not an English country ....

Oni kiure

biaframaster200:
Ibo people are the problem of this country wetin consign Una with someone land....

You are pained by people progress anf advancement ... because of this wrong information...most of the official activities in Lagos is translate and done in Yoruba language ...still you are not pained and not convinced...

If Yoruba speaking state is not a Yoruba. .. the. An English-speaking country like England is not an English country ....

Oni kiure

Mbanda:
Have you seen how you shot yourself in the leg by saying the bolded?

You yorubas don't want to acknowledge that Igbos in rivers and delta states are actually Igbos, but in the other hand you want the Igbos to acknowledge that yorubas are the rightful owners of Lagos.
And you want us to believe that you agents of division are not the problem of Nigeria?

No wonder emir sanusi said what he said about yorubas.

Stoplying:
The people told you they are not Igbos, but you must force them to be Igbos. Why don't you just let people be ?

Why always "their language is similar to our igbo languages therefore they must be igbo no matter what they say. We know them better than they know themselves !"

Stoplying:
I guess an English speaking country like Nigeria is British, right ? Or America is British, right ?

Mbanda:
Lagos indigenes came out few weeks ago to tell you that, they don't want sad waste again. What this means is that they've cut ties with the rest of sad waste.

Why are you still attaching them by force?

biaframaster200:
Yes. We are saying the same thing.... England also is not an English country ... England is owned by the Chinese.....

Oponu

During the civil war, your IBo ancestors left Lagos state ...and the real owners of Lagos state .... lived in peace and harmony...but the moment Your ancestors and tribe came back to Lagos state ....chaos started again...

Tell me one state in the southeast that is experiencing peace and progress...

You can't give what you don't have

Mbanda:
Have you seen how you shot yourself in the leg by saying the bolded?

You yorubas don't want to acknowledge that Igbos in rivers and delta states are actually Igbos, but in the other hand you want the Igbos to acknowledge that yorubas are the rightful owners of Lagos.
And you want us to believe that you agents of division are not the problem of Nigeria?

No wonder emir sanusi said what he said about yorubas.

biaframaster200:
What is Yoruba problem with what is happening in Delta and port Harcourt....may Gos punish Aguyi Ironsi for his atrocities of destroying Regional government..... because if Regionals government still exist ...there is no point of some people from poto poto regional coming to the Yoruba state to seek an Asylum....many of them were brought on trucks and lorry for ashewo businesses in Lagos...