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Let The Third Tier Breathe: Implications Of The Supreme Court Verdict - Onanuga - Politics (2) - Nairaland

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Re: Let The Third Tier Breathe: Implications Of The Supreme Court Verdict - Onanuga by Anguldi(m): 6:17am On Jul 17, 2024
Why the noise, governors ticket don cut 🔥💯
Re: Let The Third Tier Breathe: Implications Of The Supreme Court Verdict - Onanuga by yinchar(m): 6:18am On Jul 17, 2024
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Re: Let The Third Tier Breathe: Implications Of The Supreme Court Verdict - Onanuga by Sunkyboie(m): 6:19am On Jul 17, 2024
Every allocations send should be publicize to the public for proper monitoring. grin grin cheesy
Re: Let The Third Tier Breathe: Implications Of The Supreme Court Verdict - Onanuga by viralinfo: 6:21am On Jul 17, 2024
A good move....just as the above mention...allocation shld be posted online for public view and scrutiny...also revenue generate per local govt shld be uploaded along side with the allocation...
Re: Let The Third Tier Breathe: Implications Of The Supreme Court Verdict - Onanuga by oluwaseunamos33(m): 6:43am On Jul 17, 2024
Bmaster:
FTC KO ? FCT NI grin
lol check back it has been corrected
Re: Let The Third Tier Breathe: Implications Of The Supreme Court Verdict - Onanuga by Jayhome24: 6:43am On Jul 17, 2024
Kobojunkie:
Onanuga is a liar! This is an attempt to play on the intelligence of the notably gullible Nigerian people to justify the hijacking of power and control over the LGs by the FG itself by way of a supreme court ruling that equally violates Section 162. This is an attempt to use an illegal move to try to rectify another illegal move, of course, to grant greater power in the democracy to the FG. undecided

Section 162 does not give power and control over LG and LG Funds to the State Governors. Rather, the rogue Governors have been taking advantage of the LGs thanks in no way to the corrupt and inept government as well as the populace who have been asleep at the wheels of their democracy. undecided
Go to court oga or keep quiet.
Re: Let The Third Tier Breathe: Implications Of The Supreme Court Verdict - Onanuga by adioolayi(m): 6:45am On Jul 17, 2024
All these Governors raising false alarms...

On one hand,they are saying they are not touching the LGs allocations...on the other hand, they are saying the judgement restraining them from touching the LGs allocations will affect development grin grin grin grin

What exactly is their problemhuh Give these guys their money from IGR and let them add their FAAC to it...allow them do their thing themselves..

Simple!!!
Re: Let The Third Tier Breathe: Implications Of The Supreme Court Verdict - Onanuga by emmyN(m): 6:46am On Jul 17, 2024
Kobojunkie:
Onanuga is a liar! This is an attempt to play on the intelligence of the notably gullible Nigerian people to justify the hijacking of power and control over the LGs by the FG itself by way of a supreme court ruling that equally violates Section 162. This is an attempt to use an illegal move to try to rectify another illegal move, of course, to grant greater power in the democracy to the FG. undecided

Section 162 does not give power and control over LG and LG Funds to the State Governors. Rather, the rogue Governors have been taking advantage of the LGs thanks in no way to the corrupt and inept government as well as the populace who have been asleep at the wheels of their democracy. undecided
What do you suggest should have been the most appropriate action to prevent abuse by both the state government and FG?
Re: Let The Third Tier Breathe: Implications Of The Supreme Court Verdict - Onanuga by adioolayi(m): 6:49am On Jul 17, 2024
Kobojunkie:
Onanuga is a liar! This is an attempt to play on the intelligence of the notably gullible Nigerian people to justify the hijacking of power and control over the LGs by the FG itself by way of a supreme court ruling that equally violates Section 162. This is an attempt to use an illegal move to try to rectify another illegal move, of course, to grant greater power in the democracy to the FG. undecided

Section 162 does not give power and control over LG and LG Funds to the State Governors. Rather, the rogue Governors have been taking advantage of the LGs thanks in no way to the corrupt and inept government as well as the populace who have been asleep at the wheels of their democracy. undecided
Supreme Court is a court of law and also of public policy.

It was clearly stated that because of the overbearing of the Governors, Supreme Court doesn't have a choice but to rule in the interest of public policy...the ruling is a policy.
Let the Governors comply.
Re: Let The Third Tier Breathe: Implications Of The Supreme Court Verdict - Onanuga by 1gbdata: 7:12am On Jul 17, 2024
ok
Re: Let The Third Tier Breathe: Implications Of The Supreme Court Verdict - Onanuga by dydx2020(m): 7:16am On Jul 17, 2024
Tinubu supposed to have meeting with all the available Local Government Chairmen and tell them the importance of good governance in the grassroots.
Re: Let The Third Tier Breathe: Implications Of The Supreme Court Verdict - Onanuga by Emman08: 7:33am On Jul 17, 2024
Government that detests court orders. Automony only on paper. Not even ammending the constitution will make governors and other interested politicians respect this. They will find a way around it
Re: Let The Third Tier Breathe: Implications Of The Supreme Court Verdict - Onanuga by membranus: 8:03am On Jul 17, 2024
Kobojunkie:
Onanuga is a liar! This is an attempt to play on the intelligence of the notably gullible Nigerian people to justify the hijacking of power and control over the LGs by the FG itself by way of a supreme court ruling that equally violates Section 162. This is an attempt to use an illegal move to try to rectify another illegal move, of course, to grant greater power in the democracy to the FG. undecided

Section 162 does not give power and control over LG and LG Funds to the State Governors. Rather, the rogue Governors have been taking advantage of the LGs thanks in no way to the corrupt and inept government as well as the populace who have been asleep at the wheels of their democracy. undecided
Those who knew the constitution and the Law better than you have given their judgement and decisions, and these stands until and if another constitution is fabricated for the country.

So therefore, your ranting and vituperation here is like the scratching of an ant on the ground, it serves no purpose.

When your governor was looting and flexing with what should be used to develop your LGA, there was no whimper from you. But when someone who want to develop your local community fought to rectify this anomaly and bring development to your village, instead of you applauding him, but because he defeated your candidate in the last election, you are here castigating him. Is that not witchcraft?
Re: Let The Third Tier Breathe: Implications Of The Supreme Court Verdict - Onanuga by Kukutenla: 8:10am On Jul 17, 2024
For me, the message one gets from all these triumphalism is that the people who built Lagos are looking for one more scapegoat to hide behind once they are been called out for their incompetence.
The next thing you'll be hearing from their spin-masters is to hold your LG accountable first before fg. They are the closest to you
Re: Let The Third Tier Breathe: Implications Of The Supreme Court Verdict - Onanuga by Kukutenla: 8:37am On Jul 17, 2024
President Tinubu and his administration deserved the praise. President Tinubu has earned double appreciation as a defender of the local councils. As governor of Lagos, he sought the intervention of the same Supreme Court to establish the right of states to create councils in compliance with the provisions of the Constitution. In a reverse role, as president, he has succeeded in seeking another intervention of the apex court to establish the right of the councils to survive and perform the role envisaged by the Constitution.
At least Onanuga was fair enough to expose Tinubu's hypocrisy. The problem is he couldn't resist the urge to lick ass and tell the truth that Tinubu lost the case then but still went ahead to retain the LCDAs despite the SC judgement. The SC ruled then that states do not have the right to create councils. The SC ruled now that three tiers of government are recognised by the constitution. The question now is how LCDAs as a level of government still exists in the face of this judgements
Re: Let The Third Tier Breathe: Implications Of The Supreme Court Verdict - Onanuga by senatordave1(m): 8:50am On Jul 17, 2024
IfnobeGod20:
As good as the judgement is, supreme court overstepped their bounds. The purpose of judiciary is to interpret laws and not to make laws but that judgement misinterpreted the constitution, section 62. Now, the same set of people now want the National Assembly to tinker with the constitution to reflect the judgement delivered.
No country develop in an anticlockwise manner. I said this when the AGF instituted the suit that he should have gone through the National Assembly by sending an executive bill for the amendment of section 62 of the constitution and also amend the section to empowering INEC to conduct their election, as the SIEC is outrightly abolished and also making their tenure at par with other elective officials, instead of the three year tenure. This will ensure that elections are conducted simultaneously same year and same time into all posts and that will remove the overbearing influence of the state governors at monopolizing the local government council election.
This will make more meaning than the back door route.

My fear now is, the governors may not allow the amendment to the constitution to fly because they control the ace of the state assembly and dictate their rhymes. Many times that the amendment had been sought but as soon as it gets to the state assembly, the amendment will not scale through.
You know the governors won't allow the amendment fly so why blame the apex court
Re: Let The Third Tier Breathe: Implications Of The Supreme Court Verdict - Onanuga by jaxxy(m): 9:10am On Jul 17, 2024
The issue here is how the local governments will operate and be monitored after this.
Re: Let The Third Tier Breathe: Implications Of The Supreme Court Verdict - Onanuga by Bulldozer90: 9:16am On Jul 17, 2024
adioolayi:
Supreme Court is a court of law and also of public policy.

It was clearly stated that because of the overbearing of the Governors, Supreme Court doesn't have a choice but to rule in the interest of public policy...the ruling is a policy.
Let the Governors comply.
which section of the constitution made it a coury of public policy?
Re: Let The Third Tier Breathe: Implications Of The Supreme Court Verdict - Onanuga by IfnobeGod20(m): 9:28am On Jul 17, 2024
senatordave1:
You know the governors won't allow the amendment fly so why blame the apex court
And you think we have heard it all? All these shenanigans will still past through the state assemblies for input because that clause must be expunged or tinkered on to reflect the judgement, hence many governors will still hide under the same clause to manipulate the local government funds indirectly. The future still much pregnant on this same issue.
Hope you're aware that the FG is not effecting the judgement now till after 3 months from the news I read yesterday. Even those that took the case to supreme court know the enormity of what is at stake and may want to use the 3 months window period to pacify the state assemblies. I had that AGF had meeting with them last week. Many things are hidden to some of you on the same issue.
Re: Let The Third Tier Breathe: Implications Of The Supreme Court Verdict - Onanuga by senatordave1(m): 9:51am On Jul 17, 2024
IfnobeGod20:
And you think we have heard it all? All these shenanigans will still past through the state assemblies for input because that clause must be expunged or tinkered on to reflect the judgement, hence many governors will still hide under the same clause to manipulate the local government funds indirectly. The future still much pregnant on this same issue.
Hope you're aware that the FG is not effecting the judgement now till after 3 months from the news I read yesterday. Even those that took the case to supreme court know the enormity of what is at stake and may want to use the 3 months window period to pacify the state assemblies. I had that AGF had meeting with them last week. Many things are hidden to some of you on the same issue.
The issue of financial autonomy has been settled.next will be electoral autonomy
Re: Let The Third Tier Breathe: Implications Of The Supreme Court Verdict - Onanuga by shinealight(m): 9:53am On Jul 17, 2024
Kobojunkie:
Onanuga is a liar! This is an attempt to play on the intelligence of the notably gullible Nigerian people to justify the hijacking of power and control over the LGs by the FG itself by way of a supreme court ruling that equally violates Section 162. This is an attempt to use an illegal move to try to rectify another illegal move, of course, to grant greater power in the democracy to the FG. undecided

Section 162 does not give power and control over LG and LG Funds to the State Governors. Rather, the rogue Governors have been taking advantage of the LGs thanks in no way to the corrupt and inept government as well as the populace who have been asleep at the wheels of their democracy. undecided
Your comment in bold is nothing but balderdash! undecided
Talking about Section 162, are you claiming to be more knowledgeable or wiser than the Supreme Court Justices? huh
If you realise that the State Governors have been bearing down on the LG Administrations and stealing funds meant for them, shouldn’t we rejoice that someone with balls has introduced legislation to clip their wings and allow the LGs to breathe?
Why must you wish for the status quo to remain merely because you think the FG wants more power….more power to do what exactly? huh Your reasoning is totally illogical and ridiculous! cool cool
Re: Let The Third Tier Breathe: Implications Of The Supreme Court Verdict - Onanuga by adioolayi(m): 9:59am On Jul 17, 2024
I am not a lawyer...but it's a common saying by legal professionals, that the Supreme Court is not just a Court of Law, but also a Policy Court.


So, I may not be able to tell you where exactly in the constitution.

If every lawyer are saying it's a policy court, it means, a section of the constitution would have mandated them to do so.

The next question will be, what is Policy ..short definition is, a course of action proposed and adopted by an organisation or individual.

In other words, since the Governors have not been doing well in allowing democratically elected LG Chairmen to run the affairs of the LGs...then, the Supreme Court found it necessary to correct that wrong through that policy statement. ...and it has now become binding.

See the rate at which all these states are conducting LG elections after that verdict...the question is why have they decided not to before nowhuh
Re: Let The Third Tier Breathe: Implications Of The Supreme Court Verdict - Onanuga by Skyehigher1: 10:12am On Jul 17, 2024
I can remember in 1999 local government is function very well some slangs like gbemu gbemu anytime local government receive their allocation but i think obasanjo greedy of his third term makes him break and collapse the local government autonomy but thank God at last local government is going to function wether the enemy of this country like it or not supreme court verdict is become a law of the land simple
Re: Let The Third Tier Breathe: Implications Of The Supreme Court Verdict - Onanuga by Kobojunkie: 12:13pm On Jul 17, 2024
shinealight:
∆ Your comment in bold is nothing but balderdash! undecided
Talking about Section 162, are you claiming to be more knowledgeable or wiser than the Supreme Court Justices? huh
If you realise that the State Governors have been bearing down on the LG Administrations and stealing funds meant for them, shouldn’t we rejoice that someone with balls has introduced legislation to clip their wings and allow the LGs to breathe?
∆ Why must you wish for the status quo to remain merely because you think the FG wants more power….more power to do what exactly? huh Your reasoning is totally illogical and ridiculous! cool
Try to adequately reason the content of a post before responding. undecided

What you refer to as the status quo has been of illegal acts, violations of section 162 by your Governors for almost 25 years now that have been largely ignored by a population mostly ignorant of the details of their own Law. Now, to solve that illegality, rather than insist on the Law, your Supreme Court which is tasked with upholding the Constitution completely ignores it altogether to insist on another illegallity. How can that favor the people when the ones who continue to benefit are instead your politicians? undecided
Re: Let The Third Tier Breathe: Implications Of The Supreme Court Verdict - Onanuga by Kobojunkie: 12:20pm On Jul 17, 2024
membranus:
Those who knew the constitution and the Law better than you have given their judgement and decisions, and these stands until and if another constitution is fabricated for the country.
So therefore, your ranting and vituperation here is like the scratching of an ant on the ground, it serves no purpose.
When your governor was looting and flexing with what should be used to develop your LGA, there was no whimper from you. But when someone who want to develop your local community fought to rectify this anomaly and bring development to your village, instead of you applauding him, but because he defeated your candidate in the last election, you are here castigating him. Is that not witchcraft?
That statement in bold ---- the belief that they know your laws and everything else better than you do ---explains why your political class have been able to deceive you all into falling for the same scams from the same set of crooks for the 25 years now. they will continue to do so until you wake your brains the fk up! undecided
Re: Let The Third Tier Breathe: Implications Of The Supreme Court Verdict - Onanuga by shinealight(m): 12:30pm On Jul 17, 2024
Kobojunkie:
Try to adequately reason the content of a post before responding. undecided

What you refer to as the status quo has been of illegal acts, violations of section 162 by your Governors for almost 25 years now that have been largely ignored by a population mostly ignorant of the details of their own Law. Now, to solve that illegality, rather than insist on the Law, your Supreme Court which is tasked with upholding the Constitution completely ignores it altogether to insist on another illegallity. How can that favor the people when the ones who continue to benefit are instead your politicians? undecided
Does it make sense for people like you to seek to maintain the Status Quo (which is demonstrably an illegality) simple because your IMAGINATION suggests to YOU and ONLY YOU and your co-travellers that the SUPREME COURT OF THE LAND may be introducing another illegality.
What makes you think you’re wiser than the Supreme Court Justices? huh huh
Re: Let The Third Tier Breathe: Implications Of The Supreme Court Verdict - Onanuga by Kobojunkie: 12:35pm On Jul 17, 2024
shinealight:
∆ Does it make sense for people like you to seek to maintain the Status Quo (albeit an illegality) simple because your IMAGINATION suggests to YOU and ONLY YOU and your co-travellers that the SUPREME COURT OF THE LAND may be introducing another illegality.
What makes you think you’re wiser than the Supreme Court Justices? huh huh
Use your brain abeg! undecided

If someone is in stack violation of the law, the common sense thing that should happen is for that person to be arrested and prosecuted for thoze illegal acts -- in this case he would need to be impeached first. The fact that I continue to point out the illegallity of the actions of the Governors means I expect common sense to come next. Use your brain. And please stop responding if you are going to continue projecting. undecided
Re: Let The Third Tier Breathe: Implications Of The Supreme Court Verdict - Onanuga by shinealight(m): 12:55pm On Jul 17, 2024
Kobojunkie:
Use your brain abeg! undecided

If someone is in stack violation of the law, the common sense thing that should happen is for that person to be arrested and prosecuted for thoze illegal acts -- in this case he would need to be impeached first. The fact that I continue to point out the illegallity of the actions of the Governors means I expect common sense to come next. Use your brain. And please stop responding if you are going to continue projecting. undecided
You keep telling people to ‘Use Your Brain’ as if you yourself have ANYTHING between your ears! undecided undecided
Are you a Lawyer? Where and when were you called to the Bar to have the audacity of describing the Supreme Court’s pronouncement as an illegality? You’re either sooo much smarter than all the Justices or just another loudmouth slowpoke who should keep his mouth shut in a public discourse! cool cool
Re: Let The Third Tier Breathe: Implications Of The Supreme Court Verdict - Onanuga by Hadisirika: 4:25pm On Jul 17, 2024
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Re: Let The Third Tier Breathe: Implications Of The Supreme Court Verdict - Onanuga by commoditiesnig(m): 5:45pm On Jul 17, 2024
press9jatv:
Yes, let the LG breathe. Enough of Governor’s suffocating them in development in the grassroots areas
Rightly said
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