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Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by okikigsm: 4:55am On Jul 12, 2024
AdexAyanfe:
Please guys, I need either of these usb dc module, who fit help me get abeg. I don find am for Ilorin tired 😫.
There is a man at akure that has it but I dont know how easy d logistic go be .

Also some guys dey ib ,I will help u ask
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by officialfestus(m): 6:29am On Jul 12, 2024
AdexAyanfe:
Please guys, I need either of these usb dc module, who fit help me get abeg. I don find am for Ilorin tired 😫.
I can help you ship directly from aliexpress to your doorstep.
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by dollarnaira(op): 7:29am On Jul 12, 2024
okikigsm:
There is a man at akure that has it but I dont know how easy d logistic go be .

Also some guys dey ib ,I will help u ask
Baba wetin they happen?
No calls?
You no longer receive calls nor reply WhatsApp. May I no the reason(s)?
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by moneymind: 9:08am On Jul 12, 2024
officialfestus:
I can help you ship directly from aliexpress to your doorstep.
Good morning brother, need to talk you. Please message me on WhatsApp 08036761 triple 8.
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by Conner44: 3:40pm On Jul 12, 2024
Please can someone tell me the minimum power/wattage of solar panels that I can connect to a 100 amp pwm solar controller? I fear I have bought one that is too much for my needs.

I want to power 3 devices 24/7 with my setup. I have the charge controller plus

1. Raspberry pi 5 pc drawing 5v 4a

2. Raspberry pi zero 2 drawing 5v 2a

3. Ethernet switch drawing 5v 1a

I am not connecting anything else to the controller as load apart from the above 3 units. I have one 12v 90AH lead acid battery and one 3.2v 72AH CALB LifePo4 battery. I think I can't use the LifePo4 because I made the mistake of getting the pwm charge controller right? I just want to use one out of the two batteries for my setup for now and leave room to upgrade later but my next purchase will be a solar panel to power the setup although I need help to know the right size/power of panel(s) to buy that will power all three of my machines during the day comfortably and also recharge the battery for use during the night when the sun goes down.

My plan is to connect the panel to the 100 amp controller, connect one of the batteries to the controller to recharge and use a step down/up buck converter to give me an output of 5v 10a max. Is tbis possible?
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by Penuelseun(m): 8:46pm On Jul 12, 2024
Conner44:
Please can someone tell me the minimum power/wattage of solar panels that I can connect to a 100 amp pwm solar controller? I fear I have bought one that is too much for my needs.

I want to power 3 devices 24/7 with my setup. I have the charge controller plus

1. Raspberry pi 5 pc drawing 5v 4a

2. Raspberry pi zero 2 drawing 5v 2a

3. Ethernet switch drawing 5v 1a

I am not connecting anything else to the controller as load apart from the above 3 units. I have one 12v 90AH lead acid battery and one 3.2v 72AH CALB LifePo4 battery. I think I can't use the LifePo4 because I made the mistake of getting the pwm charge controller right? I just want to use one out of the two batteries for my setup for now and leave room to upgrade later but my next purchase will be a solar panel to power the setup although I need help to know the right size/power of panel(s) to buy that will power all three of my machines during the day comfortably and also recharge the battery for use during the night when the sun goes down.

My plan is to connect the panel to the 100 amp controller, connect one of the batteries to the controller to recharge and use a step down/up buck converter to give me an output of 5v 10a max. Is tbis possible?
The 12v 90ah battery will work, you can use a 150w panel to charge it up, you will need a buck converter to step down the 12v to 5v so you can use it with your appliances
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by Conner44: 10:09pm On Jul 12, 2024
Penuelseun:
The 12v 90ah battery will work, you can use a 150w panel to charge it up, you will need a buck converter to step down the 12v to 5v so you can use it with your appliances
Okay so what you're saying is that my wiring should look like below:

150w panel -> 100a charge controller -> 12v 90AH battery -> 5v 10a DC to DC buck converter (connected directly to the battery) -> the 3 computers I have as loads? CAN THIS SETUP PROVIDE 5V 10A DURING THE DAY WITH GOOD SUN TO COMPENSATE FOR THE LOAD ON THE BATTERY WHILE ITBIS BEING RECHARGED BY THE SOLAR CONTROLLER?

I am also contemplating buying two of the below items to use in the wiring setup :

Pic 1. 12v automatic low power shut off to stop the battery from discharging past 50% of its capacity (45AH) for longevity of the battery.

Pic 2. 12v to 5v 10a dc converter

OR

Pic 3. 5v 5a & 5v 3a Ubec step down converters (I will use the 5a for the bigger machine and the 3a for the remaining 2 machines)

Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by Penuelseun(m): 11:01pm On Jul 12, 2024
Conner44:
Okay so what you're saying is that my wiring should look like below:

150w panel -> 100a charge controller -> 12v 90AH battery -> 5v 10a DC to DC buck converter (connected directly to the battery) -> the 3 computers I have as loads? CAN THIS SETUP PROVIDE 5V 10A DURING THE DAY WITH GOOD SUN TO COMPENSATE FOR THE LOAD ON THE BATTERY WHILE ITBIS BEING RECHARGED BY THE SOLAR CONTROLLER?

I am also contemplating buying two of the below items to use in the wiring setup :

Pic 1. 12v automatic low power shut off to stop the battery from discharging past 50% of its capacity (45AH) for longevity of the battery.

Pic 2. 12v to 5v 10a dc converter

OR

Pic 3. 5v 5a & 5v 3a Ubec step down converters (I will use the 5a for the bigger machine and the 3a for the remaining 2 machines)
go for 1 & 2, buy a higher current rated buck converter maybe 20a to accommodate all your devices
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by Conner44: 3:15am On Jul 13, 2024
Penuelseun:
go for 1 & 2, buy a higher current rated buck converter maybe 20a to accommodate all your devices
Thank you very much. You've been a giant help
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by ajabani4allah(m): 8:47am On Jul 13, 2024
olaztek:
The buck converter is designed to supply constant voltage / constant current and it's good for charging Lithium battery.

Before connecting the battery, set the output voltage to 12.7v with the help of a multimeter/voltage meter, Then connect the battery, the green light will immediately change to blue light to indicate charging.

Once the battery reaches 12.7v, the green light will turn on to indicate full charge. The buck converter Will not overcharge the battery beyond the set voltage.

And one advantage of the buck converter over pwm cc is that it can be connected to any number of solar power rating be it 100w, 500w or 1000w and it won't burn out because it has a current limiting function ( you should know how to set the charging current within the buck converter limit - 8amp)
Pls can you give more details on how to go about setting the current?
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by akseph1: 10:11am On Jul 13, 2024
tetralogyfallot:
what type of batteries do u have?
I am sorry for responding late. It is due to some circumstances.
I salvaged this from laptop batteries. I should have close to a hundred of it.

Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by tetralogyfallot(m): 10:30pm On Jul 13, 2024
akseph1:
I am sorry for responding late. It is due to some circumstances.
I salvaged this from laptop batteries. I should have close to a hundred of it.
most of these laptop extracted cells have very low amperage I'll advice u to do a capacity test on them before usage.
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by tetralogyfallot(m): 5:28am On Jul 14, 2024
Cell balancing is a very important part of building any powerpack. This will balance the voltage of all the lines.

Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by officialfestus(m): 9:52am On Jul 14, 2024
tetralogyfallot:
Cell balancing is a very important part of building any powerpack. This will balance the voltage of all the lines.
by connecting in parallel?
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by tetralogyfallot(m): 11:01am On Jul 14, 2024
officialfestus:
by connecting in parallel?
exactly boss.
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by okikigsm: 10:24am On Jul 15, 2024
akseph1:
I am sorry for responding late. It is due to some circumstances.
I salvaged this from laptop batteries. I should have close to a hundred of it.
Run one or two basic test on it and use it .don't let that discourage u.start with what u have now.your experience on it will be your guide and be advantage later,u will still use Premium batteries in future build bro.
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by officialfestus(m): 8:54am On Jul 16, 2024
okikigsm:
Run one or two basic test on it and use it .don't let that discourage u.start with what u have now.your experience on it will be your guide and be advantage later,u will still use Premium batteries in future build bro.
my salvaged laptop cells are doing excellently well.
Akseph1
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by okikigsm: 9:49pm On Jul 16, 2024
officialfestus:
my salvaged laptop cells are doing excellently well.
Akseph1
See what I have so far and yet we still dey manage buy second grade small small

Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by NACE13: 10:10pm On Jul 16, 2024
Please, house my li-ion knowledge is quite limited and I have decided to ditch my UPS and build my own battery bank from scratch.
I have gotten a grasp of the set up but I got confused with the buck converter stuff. Do I need a buck converter if I already have an inverter i.e will a 12v inverter do the work of a buck converter? Is the buck converter same as step down module?
Will the BMS protect the batteries from over discharge and over charge as well?
Lastly, where can one source for some items like 12v inverter, battery and
volt/current indicator locally?

Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by Penuelseun(m): 11:25pm On Jul 16, 2024
NACE13:
Please, house my li-ion knowledge is quite limited and I have decided to ditch my UPS and build my own battery bank from scratch.
I have gotten a grasp of the set up but I got confused with the buck converter stuff. Do I need a buck converter if I already have an inverter i.e will a 12v inverter do the work of a buck converter? Is the buck converter same as step down module?
Will the BMS protect the batteries from over discharge and over charge as well?
Lastly, where can one source for some items like 12v inverter, battery and
volt/current indicator locally?
You don't need a buck converter if your charge controller is capable of charging the battery without issues. Yes, your bms is there to protect your cells against overcharge and over discharge but count your bms as a last resort, you should never allow your setup to get to those stages frequently or you risk damaging your cells
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by Penuelseun(m): 11:28pm On Jul 16, 2024
Your accessories can be sourced from alaba if you are in Lagos or order them from Konga
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by officialfestus(m):
Penuelseun:
Your accessories can be sourced from alaba if you are in Lagos or order them from Konga
good morning boss.
If a regular car battery charger can fully charge a lithium ion battery with bms installed without any issues. Then a normal inverter of 24v should be able to charge a 24v 7s battery without issues also?

Cc dollarnaira ewizard1
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by officialfestus(m): 5:20am On Jul 17, 2024
okikigsm:
See what I have so far and yet we still dey manage buy second grade small small
impressive, this should be over 3kwh?
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by odimbannamdi(m): 5:35am On Jul 17, 2024
NACE13:
Please, house my li-ion knowledge is quite limited and I have decided to ditch my UPS and build my own battery bank from scratch.
I have gotten a grasp of the set up but I got confused with the buck converter stuff. Do I need a buck converter if I already have an inverter i.e will a 12v inverter do the work of a buck converter? Is the buck converter same as step down module?
Will the BMS protect the batteries from over discharge and over charge as well?
Lastly, where can one source for some items like 12v inverter, battery and
volt/current indicator locally?
For the 12v inverter, you can check out this product link on Konga. Close the space within the spelling. Product has a demo video in its description and is enabled for Same Day delivery within Lagos

https://www. konga.com/product/easun-pure-sine-wave-inverter-12v-1600w-surge-800w-continuous-with-free-cable-lug-6411492
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by odimbannamdi(m): 5:37am On Jul 17, 2024
officialfestus:
good morning boss.
If a regular car battery can fully charge a lithium ion battery with bms installed without any issues. Then a normal inverter of 24v should be able to charge a 24v 7s battery without issues also?

Cc dollarnaira ewizard1
This your question no clear. Revise it. A battery doesn't charge a battery
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by officialfestus(m): 6:03am On Jul 17, 2024
odimbannamdi:
This your question no clear. Revise it. A battery doesn't charge a battery
thank you for drawing my attention to it, Car battery charger I meant.
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by olaztek(m): 8:51am On Jul 17, 2024
officialfestus:
good morning boss.
If a regular car battery charger can fully charge a lithium ion battery with bms installed without any issues. Then a normal inverter of 24v should be able to charge a 24v 7s battery without issues also?

Cc dollarnaira ewizard1
Lithium ion batteries are very sensitive and requires cc/cv source to charge them safely. A car battery charger does not have the cc/cv function and therefore risky to charge lithium ion batteries.

Many manufacturers are now integrating Lithium charging profile into their charge controllers and inverters to accomodate Lithium battery.

Be careful with Lithium ion battery as any wrong charger or Inverter not designed for it can cause thermal runaway in the battery pack thereby leading to fire and loss of property. Do not solely rely on your bms for maximum protection as it can fail like every other electronics.


And note Lithium fire is difficult to extinguish because it has its own special type of fire extinguisher.
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by NACE13: 10:21am On Jul 17, 2024
Penuelseun:
You don't need a buck converter if your charge controller is capable of charging the battery without issues. Yes, your bms is there to protect your cells against overcharge and over discharge but count your bms as a last resort, you should never allow your setup to get to those stages frequently or you risk damaging your cells
Thank you.
I'm not going solar yet, if that's the charge controller you are talking about. I just want to use normal electricity i.e PHCN or generator to charge it for now.
Before we get to the BMS as the last resort, what should be put in place before then for proper protection of the cells?
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by officialfestus(m):
NACE13:
Thank you.
I'm not going solar yet, if that's the charge controller you are talking about. I just want to use normal electricity i.e PHCN or generator to charge it for now.
Before we get to the BMS as the last resort, what should be put in place before then for proper protection of the cells?
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by omakay(m): 10:57am On Jul 17, 2024
Yhello, house. I just want to know how you guys protect your devices against thunder and lightning. Thanks
Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by Penuelseun(m): 12:06pm On Jul 17, 2024
NACE13:
Thank you.
I'm not going solar yet, if that's the charge controller you are talking about. I just want to use normal electricity i.e PHCN or generator to charge it for now.
Before we get to the BMS as the last resort, what should be put in place before then for proper protection of the cells?
you can use a laptop charger connected to a buck converter for that, or get a cctv power pack like this

Re: Diy Lithium Ion Like-minds by Penuelseun(m): 12:07pm On Jul 17, 2024
omakay:
Yhello, house. I just want to know how you guys protect your devices against thunder and lightning. Thanks
use AC and DC SPDs
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