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linearity:
This bill is dead on arrival!

Even if it passed the Senate & the House, it will not become law period!

Because there is no way 2/3rd of States would pass the bill which is required for it to become the law of the land.

expect so

It's getting ridiculous. FG now wants to control everything from Abuja .

[quote author=iLoveYouToo post=131013047]FG couldn’t control 36 governors, it’s 774 chairmen they’ll now control right? Interesting

lexy2014:
Is it by "We the people..." that a constitution is deemed a people's constitution?

If that is your criteria, then the 1999 constitution is a people's constitution. Because just like the US constitutions preamble says "We the people", so does ours.

This means you are not even familiar with the contents of Nigerias constitution.

How is the 1999 constitution meant to serve the interest of the north?

How is the US constitution near perfect?

How is Nigerias constitution flawed?

The amendments that have been made on the Nigerian constitution so far, how many have been for the benefit of Nigerians and not politicians?

You decided to latch on to the "we the people" instead of getting understanding.

It's hopeless having discussion with you people. Una brain dey work anticlockwise.

For your info. most of the amendments were based on people's agitation

Segxydube:
So the governors can decide who becomes the local govt chairman abi?

it will still be the same

Kilometres:
∆ Does it occur to you that INEC with "a track record" conducted the election that opposition party have won as Governors even the election that gave your saviour Obi second term? Does is it also occur to you that Obi conducted LG election when he was about leaving the seat of Governor and no opposition won in any LGA?

1. Why is it that everytime you lot are cornered you begin fume in the mouth like crazy people? Who is your savior Obi and what has he to do with this conversation for crying out loud?

You igbos don't seems to amaze me, with you people's bad mouth and hatred toward the other tribe in the country that have not taking you poeple to anywhere, i know for sure that you people cannot progress as a tribe if you don't move away from all this your bigotry and extremism that have been ravaging you personally and your tribes people

Killerofpigs:
Most TINUBU supporters are illiterates. This political dispensation exposed Yoruba literacy level as extremely poor and shallow

Alexiiydon:
did obi conduct local government election as a governor

yes he did, go and verify.

Ironsi decree unified the civil service.

Ironsi was killed in July 1966 and Gowon took over. Gowon promulgated decree 14 and 15 which abolished the regions and divided the 4 regions to 12 states. This happened in 1967. Very wide appart.

Again, Ironsi was killed about 40 days after making his decree and could easily have been reverse if Nigeria never wanted it. Its because of Ironsi that Nigeria is still one today

seanfer:
This has nothing to do with the Ironsi's draconian decree. But to curb the excessive abuse of power by state governors.
Are you now accepting the fact that Ironsi truly abolished the regional system government with the introduction of unitary system?

Kobojunkie:
In over 400 years, the Constitution of the United States has only been tampered with about 27 times. How many times has your government in Nigeria tampered with your Constitution? And how come each of those every times, the Nigerian people have been left with an even shorter end of the stick?!

The Constitution is supposed to be the backbone of the democracy. If it is tampered with and the result of that tampering has been even great levels of corruption which is what exist today, does that not signal a failure in the system that may require a complete overhauling or repeal of all changes made to it?

Has the Americans made a complete repeal of their 1776 Constitution, even with all the amendments made on it. So why should Nigeria do this? We will continue to amend it, as long as the country remains one entity, to rectify any error found in it, or to adjust it to current realities.

However if there is any major political cataclysm, like a regime change, or restructuring, it is then a new Constitution needs to be reenacted.

DMerciful:
Ironsi decree unified the civil service.

Ironsi was killed in July 1966 and Gowon took over. Gowon promulgated decree 14 and 15 which abolished the regions and divided the 4 regions to 12 states. This happened in 1967. Very wide appart.

Again, Ironsi was killed about 40 days after making his decree and could easily have been reverse if Nigeria never wanted it. Its because of Ironsi that Nigeria is still one today

Can you tell us the events that led to Gowon creating the 12 states?
You're trying to hide the true issues that gave birth to creation of the states by Gowon.
Maybe you should tell us the while scenario and not 1 side story.

Hushpuppy20:
You igbos don't seems to amaze me, with you people's bad mouth and hatred toward the other tribe in the country that have not taking you poeple to anywhere, i know for sure that you people cannot progress as a tribe if you don't move away from all this your bigotry and extremism that have been ravaging you personally and your tribes people

You have time to enlighten them. They're the first to abuse other tribes and when those tribes return the abuse they will start crying that they're hated by others.
Imagine that guy generalising a whole tribe just because he disagree with 1 person.
How is he even sure that the person he mentioned is Yoruba?

Seyi makinde in severe pain
This neck pressing of Oyo State Governor is getting too much

Gowon divided the regions to prevent Biafra from succeeding. Imagine doing everything to keep the people you hate!

Most Nigerian major policies have been about Igbos!

seanfer:
Can you tell us the events that led to Gowon creating the 12 states?
You're trying to hid the true issues that gave birth to creation of the states by Gowon.
Maybe you should tell us the while scenario and not 1 side story.

Georgry:

Seyi markinde will be in severe pain

The NASS is now striking the right chord, as it were.



This is so because without first extricating the LGs from the vice grip of State Governors using the so-called State "Independent" Electoral Commissions (SIECs) to install their stooges and puppets, financial autonomy would be a mirage.



State Governors need to be demystified by checking their excesses.



@hotseat

Kilometres:
You decided to latch on to the "we the people" instead of getting understanding.

It's hopeless having discussion with you people. Una brain dey work anticlockwise.

For your info. most of the amendments were based on people's agitation

According to you “Because United States' constitution is a people's constitution. Their constitution reads..."we the people".
That means a constitution is a people’s constitution because it reads “we the people”.
so why should I not latch on it? Am I the one who asked you to say it?
Which understanding did I not get? Can you pls shed some light?
Since your brain is not working anticlockwise, you should have no issues answering the questions I asked you.
Is it by "We the people..." that a constitution is deemed a people's constitution?

If that is your criteria, then the 1999 constitution is a people's constitution. Because just like the US constitutions preamble says "We the people", so does ours.

This means you are not even familiar with the contents of Nigerias constitution.

How is the 1999 constitution meant to serve the interest of the north?

How is the US constitution near perfect?

How is Nigerias constitution flawed?

The amendments that have been made on the Nigerian constitution so far, how many have been for the benefit of Nigerians and not politicians?

hotseat:
The NASS is now striking the right chord, as it were.



This is so because without first extricating the LGs from the vice grip of State Governors using the so-called State "Independent" Electoral Commissions (SIECs) to install their stooges and puppets, financial autonomy would be a mirage.



State Governors need to be demystified by checking their excesses.



@hotseat

if states become less powerful as a result of INEC conducting local government elections, how powerful do you think the FG will now be?

ITbomb:
If Tinubu can bypass the 2/3rd and change a national statue (anthem) which should be changed only through a constitutional amendment
And also
Bypass the 2/3rd and remove State LG Joint Account from the constitution through a court ruling

There's nothing more he cannot do

We are in animal farm, don't be surprised when you wake up tomorrow and see another underground change in the constitution

State LG Govt joint account does not mean State and LG money together in one account. The federal government will be the one paying into the state LG joint account and not the State government.

Kobojunkie:
Bullsheet move! Is this not the same INEC that dubiously foisted the current President on the Nigerian people? This is why all of these criminals in office need to be completely removed and done away with, and all laws enacted reversed. They violate the very Constitution upon which the Nation was established as they see fit all to rule as they see fit. How can Nigerians sit back like zombies as their lives and futures are trampled upon by the worst, least qualified, or most unscrupulous citizens?

U are wrong man, the present president won his election wella and mostly from northern states

Shantyken:
U are wrong man, the present president won his election wella and mostly from northern states

Storyland!

BERNIMOORE:
Wike 3: Fubara 1

We will continue to teach them Politics

Kobojunkie:
Storyland!

Storyland to you but for others is true

AcuraZDX:
Same court judgment can be upturned. Are you this naive?

Shut up jor!! Look at the way you are so proud typing arrant nonsense. Someone keeps giving you logical points and you are there showcasing your ignorance even with pride....

babaedo:
Nigeria can never get it right, Nigeria have a better laws but poorly implemented. Just imagine INEC conduct local group elections in Nigeria with the way things are going now, what will be the fate of state like porthacourt will Wike allow free and fair transparent election? It would have been better for INEC to conduct LG elections if federal might wouldn't be involved and it is impossible for a federal might not to be involved.

The same way Gov. SIM FUBARA is misusing State High Court

Incrediblekutty:
Shut up jor!! Look at the way you are so proud typing arrant nonsense. Someone keeps giving you logical points and you are there showcasing your ignorance even with pride....

When you see your father, tell him to shut up.

Baba is seriously preparing for 2027.... If Mr. Yakubu fix baba's allies in all the 774 LGA in the country what is to stop these chairmen from using the newly acquired federal money and power to make sure he wins? He is cutting the governors down to size, they have become too powerful. Imagine Fubara of yesterday giving almighty Wike and APC sleepless nights. But Baba na master tactician sha aswear... He is called Jagaban for a reason. See politics!

BERNIMOORE:
Wike 3: Fubara 1

when I tell people wike knows how to play his game properly they think am buffing.... I see wike becoming the president of this country some days

Ebigwei007:
Its finish already, nw the fed can nw becum lord of all, they will control the LGA's directly, leavinging the governors helpless

Do you guys even understand what you typed at all?

So, you are okay when the Governors manipulate the state electoral officers to rig his party in in all the local government?

What do you mean by leaving the "governors helpless" ?

This internet has allowed all sort of people to air their silly opinion.

[quote author=AcuraZDX post=131010255]The way you guys rant ehh.

So if Fubara conducts election tomorrow and his camp clears it all, INEC will sack the LGA chairmen ?[/quote

It then means that a party in power can not just declare all his party members winner…because they control the state power

Nigeria will be great again. The era of selection instead of election will soon be over. An era where any competent Nigerian can win election in the council without the annoniting of a state governor.

Nigeria will be great again. The era of selection instead of election in the LGAs will soon be over. Any competent Nigerian should be able to win a local election with any party without the the anointing of a state governor.