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Re: Throwback: When The 5 Parties Endorsed General Sani Abacha by JuanDeDios: 12:06pm On Jul 18, 2024
eduli:
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Re: Throwback: When The 5 Parties Endorsed General Sani Abacha by omooba969(m):
Racoon:
Like Abacha like the current disaster on seat. The man is using all manners of subtle means to ensure he stays in office for a second time. First is LGA autonomy. Then next is the legislation to force only INEC to conduct LGA elections.

All good developments but trust, they are all laced with hidden motives given the alacrity the wicked NASS are expediting actions on these bills.
You Nigerians are indeed difficult to govern and you guys actually deserve the politicians you get. Just read the crap you typed up there but I doubt you would allow some reflection.

The govt is ensuring that things work accordingly and without delays, but you're here politicising the matter saying that 'it is a subtle means to ensure Mr President stays in office for a second term.

What's wrong with you people sef? undecided

Secondly, you mentioned that All good developments but trust, they are all laced with hidden motives given the alacrity the wicked NASS are expediting actions on these bills. If the NASS were dragging their feet in the bid to frustrate the bill, it is ingrates and ignorant people like you that would start to scream blue murder.

What do you people want sef... WHAT DO YOU WANT??

Nonsense and Buhari. 😒
Re: Throwback: When The 5 Parties Endorsed General Sani Abacha by ToyinDipo(m): 12:07pm On Jul 18, 2024
Five fingers of a leperous hand - Bola Ige
Re: Throwback: When The 5 Parties Endorsed General Sani Abacha by crossbreedwears(m): 12:08pm On Jul 18, 2024
I was not a kid when abacha was in power. Is best approach towards economy as a whole is better than what we face today. How much was exchange rate during his time in power? How much was fuel and diesel? How much was travelling and visa processing and how many people had thought of getting visa to leave Nigeriahuh Una go just dey open mouth speak big grammar to deceive people wey no get sense. I will pick Abacha anytime anyday over Shehu Shagari's government including General Gowon combined together. Abacha reduced our external debt by 35% and till today we haven't had a president to reduce our debts of maintain a stable exchange rate for a whole year. I can go on and tell you his achievements. Abacha was analysing economy problems and our it will be solved and economy experts were clapping because he knew what he was saying. He never read from the book. A whole Regular Officer who had no idea about economy. Sometimes what we need is someone who understands problems and how to solve it not by going to multiple schools. Look at Cardozo speaking english up and down with nothing to prove. Look at our sanusi did extremely well as CBN governor.
theophorus:
Children saying "His Government was better than what we have now".

Well, I no get energy to educate anybody.
Make una go research how much be minimum wage then and why we had "Abacha stove".
Re: Throwback: When The 5 Parties Endorsed General Sani Abacha by Standing5(m): 12:08pm On Jul 18, 2024
crossbreedwears:
You are a fool! You mentioned less loans, less population and it was abacha who was in power
useless amerphrodite
Re: Throwback: When The 5 Parties Endorsed General Sani Abacha by caye(m): 12:10pm On Jul 18, 2024
zedman1:
Well, Nigerians are generally very quick to forget and even forgive. Perhaps you were not born then and simply told about those days, or maybe just like I wrote above, you witnessed but have forgotten like the average Nigerian. God forbid I go back to those days.
Don't mind them.
Do you know how many religious riots were occurring at that time, and even communal wars in the SS, while the military looked the other way?
How did the refineries go moribund? Ppl have forgotten that the refineries started dying under Babangida and Abacha!

You can't just say one time period is better than the other. The seeds of corruption and destruction might had been sown in the 1st period, but had not yet matured.

Abacha's era was an era I witnessed my mum weep bitterly, and she was depressed psychologically due to financial stress.
Have you ever seen your Mother weep before? How does that make you feel?
Re: Throwback: When The 5 Parties Endorsed General Sani Abacha by PriceActionZ: 12:10pm On Jul 18, 2024
caye:
Cc: Beremx, seun, naptu2, nap2tu, Throwback, mynd22,

You see all these so-called Gen-Z rabble pikins, they lack understanding. They are repeating the northern youth lies that Abacha was a better leader. Do you know that:

- the Iyalode of Ẹgba, Mama Bisoye Tejuosho, a old woman and frail was cut into pieces ( by bullets , take note) by Sgt. Rogers? Because she was a hidden supporter of NADECO

- Suliat Adedeji, an Oyo state political power house politician, an aged woman was: beaten, tortured, raped numerously and shot to death by Sgt. Rogers & his boys. Unconfirmed reports were that objects were inserted into her vagina during torture!


- Kudirat was wasted at Ikeja. Have you seen a human being riddled with bullets before? Some assault rifles tear off the flesh into different pieces.

- I'm not even going to talk about the numerous individuals privately bombed in Lagos. Oh, what about Sgt. Rogers statement that the Marabouts from Mali or Senegal, advised Abacha to bury 10 female human heads in Aso Rock, to secure his permanent rulership of Nigeria. Check Tell magazine or others of that era.


Is that what these ignorant Indomie generation are calling " a better man"?
Sad.


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Help me tell them. Political killings were very crazy. What of killer petrol that was imported from abroad that was said he vowed to reduce Nigerian population by half especially people from the south. Hunger was so crazy too that time. The only reason it was not circulated was there were no presence of social media. Abacha was brutal in his regime. People that thought abacha regime was better has forgotten that many of the looting and mismanagement that happened during military regime are part in large quantities of what is affecting us today as a nation. They thought the politicians how to loot dry without being questioned.
Re: Throwback: When The 5 Parties Endorsed General Sani Abacha by omooba969(m):
Judolisco:
Don't forget obi worked for abacha
Our journalists who interview these politicians thieves don't like to revisit the past, they're equally complicit just as they inadvertently entrench institutional corruption.

Everyone is complicit! cool
Re: Throwback: When The 5 Parties Endorsed General Sani Abacha by tishbite42: 12:16pm On Jul 18, 2024
crossbreedwears:
I was not a kid when abacha was in power. Is best approach towards economy as a whole is better than what we face today. How much was exchange rate during his time in power? How much was fuel and diesel? How much was travelling and visa processing and how many people had thought of getting visa to leave Nigeriahuh Una go just dey open mouth speak big grammar to deceive people wey no get sense. I will pick Abacha anytime anyday over Shehu Shagari's government including General Gowon combined together. Abacha reduced our external debt by 35% and till today we haven't had a president to reduce our debts of maintain a stable exchange rate for a whole year. I can go on and tell you his achievements. Abacha was analysing economy problems and our it will be solved and economy experts were clapping because he knew what he was saying. He never read from the book. A whole Regular Officer who had no idea about economy. Sometimes what we need is someone who understands problems and how to solve it not by going to multiple schools. Look at Cardozo speaking english up and down with nothing to prove. Look at our sanusi did extremely well as CBN governor.
Sanusi was average. Don't hype nonsense
Re: Throwback: When The 5 Parties Endorsed General Sani Abacha by yemmit90: 12:16pm On Jul 18, 2024
givedemwotowoto:
That’s what Bul@ba is trying to do now. Fake democrat

He hijacked LP, used Wike to hijack PDP, even APGA was not spared.

These structures of criminality cost money to maintain, and Nigerians are paying for them with hunger and extreme poverty from harsh anti-people policies

He learnt from his mentor
This your picture always make me laugh when I remember baba Tinubu still claiming 70 something in 2024.
Re: Throwback: When The 5 Parties Endorsed General Sani Abacha by tishbite42: 12:17pm On Jul 18, 2024
Judolisco:
Don't forget obi worked for abacha
Your 'God' Buhari worked for Abacha

My lil goddess Dora Akunyili worked for Abacha too
Re: Throwback: When The 5 Parties Endorsed General Sani Abacha by crossbreedwears(m): 12:20pm On Jul 18, 2024
Jesus Christ!!! Sanusi averagehuh I rest my case
tishbite42:
Sanusi was average. Don't hype nonsense
Re: Throwback: When The 5 Parties Endorsed General Sani Abacha by PriceActionZ: 12:21pm On Jul 18, 2024
caye:
Don't mind them.
Do you know how many religious riots were occurring at that time, and even communal wars in the SS, while the military looked the other way?
How did the refineries go moribund? Ppl have forgotten that the refineries started dying under Babangida and Abacha!

You can't just say one time period is better than the other. The seeds of corruption and destruction might had been sown in the 1st period, but had not yet matured.

Abacha's era was an era I witnessed my mum weep bitterly, and she was depressed psychologically due to financial stress.
Have you ever seen your Mother weep before? How does that make you feel?
I remember this one. Abacha was accused of deliberately spoil warri and porthacourt refineries, by pouring may na salt self to them through his proxies, ever since then they have never balanced. They created cabals importers , importing conterminated fuels,Killer petrol were imported that smell like poison and people were dying for just inhaling them. Lots of explosions occur when people started using kerosene to cook because of the conterminated fuels. People can easily forget Bad government sha. 9sBad bad old days. Abacha was never a good option honestly.
Re: Throwback: When The 5 Parties Endorsed General Sani Abacha by Judolisco(m): 12:21pm On Jul 18, 2024
tishbite42:
Your 'God' Buhari worked for Abacha

My lil goddess Dora Akunyili worked for Abacha too
is dat a justification dat obi worked and cashed out under a corrupt tyrant? And who made another tyrant buhari your God?
Re: Throwback: When The 5 Parties Endorsed General Sani Abacha by crossbreedwears(m): 12:21pm On Jul 18, 2024
Tell that to your father at home!
Standing5:
useless amerphrodite
Re: Throwback: When The 5 Parties Endorsed General Sani Abacha by tishbite42: 12:21pm On Jul 18, 2024
crossbreedwears:
Jesus Christ!!! Sanusi averagehuh I rest my case
Even Soludo was average
Stop hyping them
Ten years from now, people will start hyping Emefiele and Cardoso

We know better
Re: Throwback: When The 5 Parties Endorsed General Sani Abacha by theophorus(m): 12:22pm On Jul 18, 2024
crossbreedwears:
I was not a kid when abacha was in power. Is best approach towards economy as a whole is better than what we face today. How much was exchange rate during his time in power? How much was fuel and diesel? How much was travelling and visa processing and how many people had thought of getting visa to leave Nigeriahuh Una go just dey open mouth speak big grammar to deceive people wey no get sense. I will pick Abacha anytime anyday over Shehu Shagari's government including General Gowon combined together. Abacha reduced our external debt by 35% and till today we haven't had a president to reduce our debts of maintain a stable exchange rate for a whole year. I can go on and tell you his achievements. Abacha was analysing economy problems and our it will be solved and economy experts were clapping because he knew what he was saying. He never read from the book. A whole Regular Officer who had no idea about economy. Sometimes what we need is someone who understands problems and how to solve it not by going to multiple schools. Look at Cardozo speaking english up and down with nothing to prove. Look at our sanusi did extremely well as CBN governor.
How much was Minimum wage during Abacha's Govt?
What was Freedom of Speech and association like during his Govt?

Think over this two.
Bye
Re: Throwback: When The 5 Parties Endorsed General Sani Abacha by nkwoemeka(m): 12:22pm On Jul 18, 2024
When the going was good.
Re: Throwback: When The 5 Parties Endorsed General Sani Abacha by Standing5(m): 12:24pm On Jul 18, 2024
crossbreedwears:
Tell that to your father at home!
lol.
Re: Throwback: When The 5 Parties Endorsed General Sani Abacha by caye(m): 12:34pm On Jul 18, 2024
crossbreedwears:
I was not a kid when abacha was in power. Is best approach towards economy as a whole is better than what we face today.
Unfortunately, massive corruption and extreme debt plus nepotism instituted by the ignorant 2015 Gen. Buhari , has made us think Abacha was better .

crossbreedwears:
I
How much was exchange rate during his time in power?
How much was fuel and diesel? How much was travelling and visa processing and how many people had thought of getting visa to leave Nigeriahuh
The Japa syndrome was actually building up by that time! Infact, Nigerians were already dying in the Sahara desert, when travelling to Libya! I hope you know sir.
Infact, there was a reverse-japa post 2002 under Obasanjo, when it seemed that Banking industry ( [new graduates were being paid ₦100-150k as salary then, how much are graduates paid now with inflation?!], oil and Pharmaceutical industry [Late Dear Dora Akunyili ] were being re-vitalised.
Hope you know that this was what made ppl like : Don Jazzy, Dbanj, Jide Chord, Ikechukwu, Weird MAV etc and many music industry giants to come back to Nigeria and create a firestorm in the music industry ! You know that sir!

crossbreedwears:
I
I will pick Abacha anytime anyday over Shehu Shagari's government including General Gowon combined together.
But why did you skip Gen. Buhari- Idiagbon? Was it because of the nepotism ( Chief Adebisi Onabanjo was sentenced to over 100 yrs imprisonment, he died! While the corruption master Alhj. Shehu Shagari was sentenced to HOUSE ARREST BY BUHARI ! )and high inflation plus excessive force which was exhibited btw 80-83?

crossbreedwears:
I
Abacha reduced our external debt by 35% and till today we haven't had a president to reduce our debts of maintain a stable exchange rate for a whole year.
You didn't talk about Chief Obasanjo that reduced our external debt to 0%. DO YOU HAVE AN AGENDA HERE?!

crossbreedwears:
I
I can go on and tell you his achievements. Abacha was analysing economy problems and our it will be solved and economy experts were clapping because he knew what he was saying.


He never read from the book. A whole Regular Officer who had no idea about economy. Sometimes what we need is someone who understands problems and how to solve it not by going to multiple schools. Look at Cardozo speaking english up and down with nothing to prove.
Can you bullet-point just 2 good economic successes he achieved? Just 2.

crossbreedwears:
I

Look at our sanusi did extremely well as CBN governor.
By going against southern banking leaders who were corrupt, but left the northern corrupt bank leaders?

- shared money millions or billions of ₦ to Kano victims of Boko haram Bomb blasts without authorization, but kept mute during tragedies in the south, especially SE?

- was fraudulently paying and overpaying one of his girlfriends at CBN?

Come on, brother, you can't be this biased!

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Re: Throwback: When The 5 Parties Endorsed General Sani Abacha by OALandAgents: 12:39pm On Jul 18, 2024
Abacha's was the best government in almost the last 40 years.

That is why he was poisoned he was about to introduce a constitution that would have fixed many of Nigeria's problems we are facing today.

The Caucasian racist globalist colonisers sponsored his assassination via poisoning to preventing him taking Nigeria to where we can start to approach our potential.
Re: Throwback: When The 5 Parties Endorsed General Sani Abacha by crossbreedwears(m): 12:41pm On Jul 18, 2024
Anybody that hypes Emefiele should be jailed
tishbite42:
Even Soludo was average
Stop hyping them
Ten years from now, people will start hyping Emefiele and Cardoso

We know better
Re: Throwback: When The 5 Parties Endorsed General Sani Abacha by SaLongs1(m): 12:41pm On Jul 18, 2024
eduli:
After all his government was better than we have it today

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To the contrary he laid the foundation for the rot we have today, and a IBB.
Re: Throwback: When The 5 Parties Endorsed General Sani Abacha by crossbreedwears(m): 12:43pm On Jul 18, 2024
There is no freedom of speech in any military era in the world my brother and my point is Abacha had was a good man even though he did a lot of evil things. The fact people were able to afford 3 square meal that time is enough to prove his achievements
theophorus:
How much was Minimum wage during Abacha's Govt?
What was Freedom of Speech and association like during his Govt?

Think over this two.
Bye
Re: Throwback: When The 5 Parties Endorsed General Sani Abacha by SaLongs1(m): 12:43pm On Jul 18, 2024
Throwback:
Actually, by now the 5parties = 1party state government would have continued to rule without any democratic freedoms that you now enjoy.

His son would have been preparing to take over from him like it happened in Togo with the Eyadema family.

Maybe Peter Obi would have continued working for the Abacha civilian regime, managing all the ports.

OBJ would have died in prison like Shehu Musa Yar'Adua.

Diya, Olanrewaju, and Adisa would have been executed later in 1998.

Sgt Rogers would have continued with his killer squad to eliminate any high profile Nigerian that oppose the Abacha government.

Abacha would have continued to promise that workers will smile soon, but would have continued to fight inflation better than the actual governments that came after him.

N1 coins could have remained useful, while labour might now have been fighting for N11,500 minimum wage.
Not many people are willing to be as objective as you are in this country which is very unfortunate.
Re: Throwback: When The 5 Parties Endorsed General Sani Abacha by crossbreedwears(m): 12:44pm On Jul 18, 2024
If the minimum wage during Abacha could afford a bag of rice, beans and garri and still little change over then it was fair enough. As we speak today a minimum wage can't buy a bag or rice talkless of beans. GEJ minimum wage was able to buy bag of rive and beans bro
theophorus:
How much was Minimum wage during Abacha's Govt?
What was Freedom of Speech and association like during his Govt?

Think over this two.
Bye
Re: Throwback: When The 5 Parties Endorsed General Sani Abacha by caye(m): 12:44pm On Jul 18, 2024
PriceActionZ:
I remember this one. Abacha was accused of deliberately spoil warri and porthacourt refineries, by pouring may na salt self to them through his proxies, ever since then they have never balanced. They created cabals importers , importing conterminated fuels,Killer petrol were imported that smell like poison and people were dying for just inhaling them. Lots of explosions occur when people started using kerosene to cook because of the conterminated fuels. People can easily forget Bad government sha. 9sBad bad old days. Abacha was never a good option honestly.
The killer Petrol was imported by Mohammad Abacha, his son. Significant number of ppl died in the SW and SE. It was covered up.
And the northern cabals were being reinvigorated at that time. Shell plc , nothing concern them, dem dey export sweet crude to their own European refineries steadily. Infact, anytime there's oil spillage in the Naija-delta, shell will just dole out money to the SS chiefs , and shut everybody's mouth. So much corruption was going on.
Re: Throwback: When The 5 Parties Endorsed General Sani Abacha by 43Ronin: 12:45pm On Jul 18, 2024
caye:
Cc: Beremx, seun, naptu2, nap2tu, Throwback, mynd22,

You see all these so-called Gen-Z rabble pikins, they lack understanding. They are repeating the northern youth lies that Abacha was a better leader. Do you know that:

- the Iyalode of Ẹgba, Mama Bisoye Tejuosho, a old woman and frail was cut into pieces ( by bullets , take note) by Sgt. Rogers? Because she was a hidden supporter of NADECO

- Suliat Adedeji, an Oyo state political power house politician, an aged woman was: beaten, tortured, raped numerously and shot to death by Sgt. Rogers & his boys. Unconfirmed reports were that objects were inserted into her vagina during torture!


- Kudirat was wasted at Ikeja. Have you seen a human being riddled with bullets before? Some assault rifles tear off the flesh into different pieces.

- I'm not even going to talk about the numerous individuals privately bombed in Lagos. Oh, what about Sgt. Rogers statement that the Marabouts from Mali or Senegal, advised Abacha to bury 10 female human heads in Aso Rock, to secure his permanent rulership of Nigeria. Check Tell magazine or others of that era.


Is that what these ignorant Indomie generation are calling " a better man"?
Sad.


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So what point are you trying to make? That Abacha was a demon. My friend more people have died in civilian rule since 1999 than anything you thought abacha killed. Odi, zak-ibiam, Obigbo, Ipob massacres in Aba & Onitsha, Okuama, Shiites in Abuja, #Endsars. Bro the army has killed more people than Abacha ever dreamed of even in a military regime. Economically Abach was 10x better than buhari & tinubu administration. Inflation was brought down from a whooping 56% under IBB to 8 % (despite numerous sanctions). Not a single loan was taken by abacha and he stopped paying those useless IMF interest on loans. This is not to say abacha was a saint, this is just to let you know that as bad as Abacha was, his regime was100 times better than what we currently have- it's actually a sad reflection
Re: Throwback: When The 5 Parties Endorsed General Sani Abacha by Nobody: 12:48pm On Jul 18, 2024
givedemwotowoto:
That’s what Bul@ba is trying to do now. Fake democrat

He hijacked LP, used Wike to hijack PDP, even APGA was not spared.

These structures of criminality cost money to maintain, and Nigerians are paying for them with hunger and extreme poverty from harsh anti-people policies

He learnt from his mentor
How is Tinubu a mentee to Abacha?
Hardship has turned ya opposition to bitterness!
Receive healings!

Re: Throwback: When The 5 Parties Endorsed General Sani Abacha by crossbreedwears(m): 12:49pm On Jul 18, 2024
Abeg no dey ever mention Buhari when it comes to economy issues. Hes doesn't have much knowledge about it bro.

Obansanjo printed currency to pay debt bro which we started experiencing inflation gradually bro. His moves were quesionable and that is why he retired General Victor Malu( fomer COAS) because he confronted him and said "Sir, you need to reverse some policy or we won't get it right". Years later, General Victor malu said he regret not removing Obasanjo in power because he had the power and opportunity.

Sanusi did his best better than we mumu we have today and the previous and Sanusi is not a saint as well bro. He helped his brothers in the north but his policies were top notch
caye:
Unfortunately, massive corruption and extreme debt plus nepotism instituted by the ignorant 2015 Gen. Buhari , has made us think Abacha was better .



The Japa syndrome was actually building up by that time! Infact, Nigerians were already dying in the Sahara desert, when travelling to Libya! I hope you know sir.
Infact, there was a reverse-japa post 2002 under Obasanjo, when it seemed that Banking industry ( [new graduates were being paid ₦100-150k as salary then, how much are graduates paid now with inflation?!], oil and Pharmaceutical industry [Late Dear Dora Akunyili ] were being re-vitalised.
Hope you know that this was what made ppl like : Don Jazzy, Dbanj, Jide Chord, Ikechukwu, Weird MAV etc and many music industry giants to come back to Nigeria and create a firestorm in the music industry ! You know that sir!


But why did you skip Gen. Buhari- Idiagbon? Was it because of the nepotism ( Chief Adebisi Onabanjo was sentenced to over 100 yrs imprisonment, he died! While the corruption master Alhj. Shehu Shagari was sentenced to HOUSE ARREST BY BUHARI ! )and high inflation plus excessive force which was exhibited btw 80-83?



You didn't talk about Chief Obasanjo that reduced our external debt to 0%. DO YOU HAVE AN AGENDA HERE?!



Can you bullet-point just 2 good economic successes he achieved? Just 2.



By going against southern banking leaders who were corrupt, but left the northern corrupt bank leaders?

- shared money millions or billions of ₦ to Kano victims of Boko haram Bomb blasts without authorization, but kept mute during tragedies in the south, especially SE?

- was fraudulently paying and overpaying one of his girlfriends at CBN?

Come on, brother, you can't be this biased!

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Re: Throwback: When The 5 Parties Endorsed General Sani Abacha by caye(m): 12:51pm On Jul 18, 2024
crossbreedwears:
There is no freedom of speech in any military era in the world my brother and my point is Abacha had was a good man even though he did a lot of evil things. The fact people were able to afford 3 square meal that time is enough to prove his achievements
Any leadership or rulership ( in the case of Nigeria) where there is little or none-existing:

- freedom from want ( food, clothing and shelter)
- freedom of speech ( to a degree)
- freedom of association
- freedom of worship ( as long as it doesn't involve injury to others)
- freedom from fear

Is not a forward- moving leadership or rulership.
It's a terror.

3-square meal is not a privilege, but a right to every working person.
Once it becomes privilege ( just like governors boasting of paying salaries), you are under a tyrant.

Is this my submission agreeable in Islamic doctrines too, AntiChristian?
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