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Re: ISRAEL'S Parliament Overwhelmingly Passes Bill Rejecting Palestine State by Zxcvbnmghtr:
AnyanwuSK:
Only a daft person will compare Israel and Palestine to Igbo and Nigeria.

Fulani Jànjaweed from the Sahel are renaming villages belonging to indigenous people in Plateau State after sacking the villagers, they import foreign Fulani to occupy the villages and you're here mentioning Igbo. Don't you need freedom too?
Haba, you can't be that daft not to understand that it's a reverse psychology. grin

Re: ISRAEL'S Parliament Overwhelmingly Passes Bill Rejecting Palestine State by Ayatullah(m): 2:40pm On Jul 19, 2024
It's ironic that a nation - ISRAEL that will soon cease to exist is passing a bill rejecting the existence of a Palestinian state that is a certainty.

Re: ISRAEL'S Parliament Overwhelmingly Passes Bill Rejecting Palestine State by Ngwamankillyou2(m): 2:48pm On Jul 19, 2024
CatchMeIfUCanMO:
Hello bro, can I discuss something of importance with you?
What is that.
Re: ISRAEL'S Parliament Overwhelmingly Passes Bill Rejecting Palestine State by Ayatullah(m): 3:16pm On Jul 19, 2024
BREAKIBG NEWS:

International Court of Justice exposed Israel injustice and wickedness.

Re: ISRAEL'S Parliament Overwhelmingly Passes Bill Rejecting Palestine State by Empiree: 3:35pm On Jul 19, 2024
I know you tried hard to make sense out of this. Your logic is, Fulani historically lived there. Fine. No argument. Don't forget we are dealing with analogy here and not about Fulanis is real world.

So Fulanis came in 1948 after centuries of absence to reclaim their "ancestral home". Well, there is something called statutory law. To lay claim on a land in 20th century based on ancient documents is statutory barred. The UN and superpowers did not give Fulani Yorùbá land based on historic records but based on persecution of Fulani in Fulani dominated region which led them to be homeless. They became homeless that's why UN gave a new home in Yorùbáland.

If you disagree, will the USA give back America to the native Americans known as red Indians after just few hundred years they were obliterated?

Will Australia give back Australia land to the native Australians known as aboriginals?.

Will Canada and New Zealand give back the land to the natives they obliterated hundreds of years ago?.

If your answer is no, why should Yoruba give back their land to Fulanis after thousands of years?. This is called double standards and inconsistencies.

Pacesetter123:
Your analogy is incomplete.It should have gone thus;
the Fulanis owned and lives in the land for ages.Then a war broke out between them and world Super Power (Roman Empire) and the Fulanis were massacred and about 95% of them driven away from their ancestral land to scatter all over the north.After few years,the Yorubas come and occupy that land.Then in 1948,the Fulanis now said to themselves,now that the Roman Empire has collapsed,the dreaded Gen Titus is no more there and there's no more war again,let us go back to our ancestral land.Then upon coming back,they noticed the Yorubas now live in their land.For peace to reign,they offer voluntarily to give the Yorubas some portion of the land down south of the land instead of sending them back to their land in the neigbouring Yorubas towns which they originally came from.But the Yorubas refused.Claiming the land is theirs and that they want to take from the costal line of Eko to Ile Ife which is the capital.The fulanis then said no,that the yorubas shouldn't even mention Ile Ife,that that is where their Alter for worshipping of their God is.The Yorubas responded that during the time of Fulanis exile that they have also built their Alter for the worship of their God in the same Ile Ife.And they started fighting the Fulanis.Then in 2024,the Fulanis then said that they won't even give part of their land to the Yorubas again as their independent state.The war broke out and continues............

So that is how the analogy should look like,not the incomplete one you drew to whip sentiment.
Re: ISRAEL'S Parliament Overwhelmingly Passes Bill Rejecting Palestine State by Ayatullah(m): 3:37pm On Jul 19, 2024
Holiness2100:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3aOQFbKdRo?si=AlvGZTmQkJBAk0DW


https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-passes-bill-rejecting-palestine-statehood
Breaking news that should let you know that you and your Israeli masters are wicked souls, see facts from ICJ:

Re: ISRAEL'S Parliament Overwhelmingly Passes Bill Rejecting Palestine State by ExudeLoveToAll: 3:54pm On Jul 19, 2024
Empiree:
When they invented internet, they invented it for research studies. Internet supposed to make you more educated but I am surprised how du.mb you are. What you said here is exactly the propaganda the zionists fed you and you can't use your brain to do independent research.

Let's keep it simple maybe you will understand. I am sure you are Nigerian. Let's say you are a Yoruba man. Some Fulani came from North in 1948 to seek refuge in Yorùbáland. In the process they drove out half of Yoruba population with the help of superpowers. You tried to resist them but they overpowered you. Now they said your option is to divide your land. They said 80% of your land is for Fulani. 20% of the land for you. You disagree ofcourse and you rebelled against them and the more you rebel the more they confiscated more land of your 20% for 40 years.

And they are telling you that the 20% of your land is for you to create your state and you said no. The whole land is one for everyone with equality but they said no.

Forty years later, a group of Yoruba started resistance against Fulani till date and Fulani keep telling you that you had the opportunities to create your state on 20% of the land given to you. How sensible this is buddy?. Do the math yourself.

Don't come here to talk me they are Israelites from Moses and the Bible said this and that. I don't want to hear what your Bible says. I want reality
When a person starts an intro with a derogatory statement it shows the critical thinking skills that person exudes. A supposedy educated fellow behaving like a street urchin. I don't blame you
Re: ISRAEL'S Parliament Overwhelmingly Passes Bill Rejecting Palestine State by Empiree: 4:09pm On Jul 19, 2024
ExudeLoveToAll:
When a person starts an intro with a derogatory statement it shows the critical thinking skills that person exudes. A supposedy educated fellow behaving like a street urchin. I don't blame you
Stale
Re: ISRAEL'S Parliament Overwhelmingly Passes Bill Rejecting Palestine State by smokinloud(m): 4:52pm On Jul 19, 2024
Zooposki:
Revelation 2:9
New International Version
9 I know your afflictions and your poverty—yet you are rich! I know about the slander of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan.

Who are the afflicted and wallow in poverty today and all the time? Those are the real Jews.
1.Revelation 2:9 is about the church in Smyrna which is in modern day Turkey/Greece. It's never about the Jews of Israel.
2. The Jews are not black, stop deceiving yourself. Though there are black Jews today just like there are black Americans today.



Revelation 2:8-9
[8]And unto the angel of the church in "SMYRNA" a write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;
[9]I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
Re: ISRAEL'S Parliament Overwhelmingly Passes Bill Rejecting Palestine State by seunayantokun(m): 5:35pm On Jul 19, 2024
Violence doesn't pay. Terrorists, please remove it from your DNA.
Re: ISRAEL'S Parliament Overwhelmingly Passes Bill Rejecting Palestine State by Pacesetter123(m): 5:47pm On Jul 19, 2024
Empiree:
I know you tried hard to make sense out of this. Your logic is, Fulani historically lived there. Fine. No argument. Don't forget we are dealing with analogy here and not about Fulanis is real world.

So Fulanis came in 1948 after centuries of absence to reclaim their "ancestral home". Well, there is something called statutory law. To lay claim on a land in 20th century based on ancient documents is statutory barred. The UN and superpowers did not give Fulani Yorùbá land based on historic records but based on persecution of Fulani in Fulani dominated region which led them to be homeless. They became homeless that's why UN gave a new home in Yorùbáland.

If you disagree, will the USA give back America to the native Americans known as red Indians after just few hundred years they were obliterated?

Will Australia give back Australia land to the native Australians known as aboriginals?.

Will Canada and New Zealand give back the land to the natives they obliterated hundreds of years ago?.

If your answer is no, why should Yoruba give back their land to Fulanis after thousands of years?. This is called double standards and inconsistencies.
Ok,since we are respecting each other by arguing without abusing and insulting ourselves as the case is often is in Nairaland here.
So I will like to engage you further.
The examples you are citing here are quite different from the subject matter (i. e Yorubas and Fulanis analogy) entirely.

1. The Red indies where not driven away and totally forced into exile as the result of war by the Europeans who came and occupied their land.Rather,they were conquered and forced to surrender to the European invaders.So till today,they are still living in their land , totally fused with their conquerors without demanding for a separate state from the people who conquered them some centuries ago.The same thing with Aborigines of Australia and Canada that you mentioned.

2. But in the case of analogical Yorubas and Fulanis we are talking about here.The Fulanis were never conquered by the Yorubas that now occupy their land.Lets assume Igala fought war with the Fulanis and drove them out of the land but they themselves didn't take over the Fulanis land.When the Igala kingdom fell,they withdrew their government totally from the land.Through out this period,the Yorubas were never in the picture of things there at all.And all of a sudden,the Yorubas emerged from nowhere and lay claim on the land illegally.
Mind you I said "illegally" because their claim of the country/land negate the two ideal methods of establishing a state/community in the olden days.
These methods are;
a. Going into a virgin forest and deforesting it to establish your new kingdom there.

b. Fighting wars with the perceived weaker community/kingdom and subduing them to either be under your new rulership as vassals or forcing them to migrate entirely out of their original land into a new established community.
In either of the cases,they won't come back to the land again.


But in this case,the "Yorubas" didn't conquered the Fulanis land in war neither did they also DISVIRGIN the land to establish their state.You cannot just see an already established community though with scanty population and you lay claim to it when you didn't conquered them militarily nor deforest the land.So the Fulanis in exile still have full legal rights to their homes no matter the length of time they have been in exile.It should interest you to know that if it was the Igalas (Romans )who conquered them that are the ones occupying that land till today,the world would have had a different view of the matter and things would have been handled differently.

So my submission is that the "Yorubas" are the illegal occupiers of the land and as such should abide by whatever conditions given to them by the "Fulanis" the original owner of the state.Period!
Re: ISRAEL'S Parliament Overwhelmingly Passes Bill Rejecting Palestine State by Empiree: 5:50pm On Jul 19, 2024
Righteousness2:
How The devil deceives people like you is so Pitiful.
When i see the way a whole lot of you guys reason and behave, i see clearly How easy and Cheap it will be for the antichrist to deceive you to take his mark.

I see how humanity is heading to hell in droves all because they are blinded to the Word of GOD .


Just imagine you right now.
You leave the Word of GOD, the source of the breath in you to listen to a confuse mere man just like you
You leave the Word of GOD which words are being Fufilled right in your eyes.
It is a mere man who is as Confused as you are that you listen to.

The Devil is really out ti destroy Humanity.
But I Pray for you and your likes. May GOD show you Mercies and Deliver you from Ignorance and Folly before it is too late.

Re: ISRAEL'S Parliament Overwhelmingly Passes Bill Rejecting Palestine State by Dsimmer:
shoodboi2:
This is to all those Israeli supporters who keep claiming Palestinians rejected the two state solution.

Now, everyone else can see that Israel is the one that has always rejected the two state solution.

You stole people's land, set up a country on it, and you're trying to send them away. To where exactly?

Palestinians even agreed to share the land, but Israel has always refused and has done everything to throw the Palestinians out.

The resistance continues.
The land belong to the Israelites to begin with. Palestine people are Arab settlers.

As a matter of fact, Any Israelite who was still remaining there at the time when majority of the Israelites were taken abroad would have simply wanted the name Israel to be back because he's an Israelite. The Palestine are simply settlers. They're Arab settlers who migrated there.
Re: ISRAEL'S Parliament Overwhelmingly Passes Bill Rejecting Palestine State by CatchMeIfUCanMO: 7:23pm On Jul 19, 2024
Ngwamankillyou2:
What is that.
Check your dm
Re: ISRAEL'S Parliament Overwhelmingly Passes Bill Rejecting Palestine State by Ngwamankillyou2(m): 7:43pm On Jul 19, 2024
CatchMeIfUCanMO:
Check your dm
I didn't read dms
Re: ISRAEL'S Parliament Overwhelmingly Passes Bill Rejecting Palestine State by Zooposki(f):
smokinloud:
1.Revelation 2:9 is about the church in Smyrna which is in modern day Turkey/Greece. It's never about the Jews of Israel.
2. The Jews are not black, stop deceiving yourself. Though there are black Jews today just like there are black Americans today.



Revelation 2:8-9
[8]And unto the angel of the church in "SMYRNA" a write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;
[9]I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
You know the Jews have recessive genes, right? Without the dominant genes of black/african people they will die off, right? How can a complex cell organism hated by the sun, which gives life to others on this planet be God’s choosen people?
Re: ISRAEL'S Parliament Overwhelmingly Passes Bill Rejecting Palestine State by Empiree:
Pacesetter123:
1. The Red indies where not driven away and totally forced into exile as the result of war by the Europeans who came and occupied their land.Rather,they were conquered and forced to surrender to the European invaders.So till today,they are still living in their land , totally fused with their conquerors without demanding for a separate state from the people who conquered them some centuries ago.The same thing with Aborigines of Australia and Canada that you mentioned.
Yes, they did and still do but not at the alarming rate and it is very seldom; usually around Thanksgiving festival. I'm not gonna dwell on this. You may research on it.




2. But in the case of analogical Yorubas and Fulanis we are talking about here.The Fulanis were never conquered by the Yorubas that now occupy their land.Lets assume Igala fought war with the Fulanis and drove them out of the land but they themselves didn't take over the Fulanis land.When the Igala kingdom fell,they withdrew their government totally from the land.Through out this period,the Yorubas were never in the picture of things there at all.And all of a sudden,the Yorubas emerged from nowhere and lay claim on the land illegally.
Mind you I said "illegally" because their claim of the country/land negate the two ideal methods of establishing a state/community in the olden days.
These methods are;
a. Going into a virgin forest and deforesting it to establish your new kingdom there.

b. Fighting wars with the perceived weaker community/kingdom and subduing them to either be under your new rulership as vassals or forcing them to migrate entirely out of their original land into a new established community.
In either of the cases,they won't come back to the land again.


But in this case,the "Yorubas" didn't conquered the Fulanis land in war neither did they also DISVIRGIN the land to establish their state.You cannot just see an already established community though with scanty population and you lay claim to it when you didn't conquered them militarily nor deforest the land.So the Fulanis in exile still have full legal rights to their homes no matter the length of time they have been in exile.It should interest you to know that if it was the Igalas (Romans )who conquered them that are the ones occupying that land till today,the world would have had a different view of the matter and things would have been handled differently.

So my submission is that the "Yorubas" are the illegal occupiers of the land and as such should abide by whatever conditions given to them by the "Fulanis" the original owner of the state.Period!
You see, when I started, I started out with UN and superpowers. These entities do not recognize "ancient records". Their reason(s) for giving Yoruba land (Palestine) to Fulanis (European Jews) was because Fulanis were persecuted by their Fulani Christians (European Christians) and were rendered homeless and not because of their ancestry link.

The British and international community aka superpowers did not declare Fulani state in Yorùbáland for religious or ancestral reasons but for political and military interest. They clearly started the reason Fulani state was created in 1948. We already know what or who Fulani represents in this analogy.

In a nutshell, the Fulani are not related to Yorùbáland by ethnicity but by religious affiliation. Nothing more.

Re: ISRAEL'S Parliament Overwhelmingly Passes Bill Rejecting Palestine State by Empiree: 10:21pm On Jul 19, 2024
That's it

Re: ISRAEL'S Parliament Overwhelmingly Passes Bill Rejecting Palestine State by BatinHisoki: 10:35pm On Jul 19, 2024
Israel's actions against Palestinians are nothing short of brutal and inhumane. The relentless bombings, forced evictions, and military aggressions amount to genocide. Entire families are wiped out, homes reduced to rubble, and lives shattered daily. The world cannot remain silent while Israel continues to oppress and annihilate Palestinians. The Palestinian people deserve freedom, dignity, and the right to live without fear of violence and persecution. Israel often seems to bring chaos to the world... They're the ones who killed Jesus. I don't know why some Christians support Israel while there's many Christians in Palestine.
Re: ISRAEL'S Parliament Overwhelmingly Passes Bill Rejecting Palestine State by Empiree: 10:58pm On Jul 19, 2024
Even supermarket recognizes Israeli genocide

Re: ISRAEL'S Parliament Overwhelmingly Passes Bill Rejecting Palestine State by Empiree: 10:58pm On Jul 19, 2024
Even supermarket recognizes Israeli genocide ..

Re: ISRAEL'S Parliament Overwhelmingly Passes Bill Rejecting Palestine State by AnyanwuSK(m): 12:49am On Jul 20, 2024
Zxcvbnmghtr:
Haba, you can't be that daft not to understand that it's a reverse psychology. grin
It's silly, it doesn't make sense because it's sensitive!
Re: ISRAEL'S Parliament Overwhelmingly Passes Bill Rejecting Palestine State by Empiree: 1:52am On Jul 20, 2024
Re: ISRAEL'S Parliament Overwhelmingly Passes Bill Rejecting Palestine State by Empiree: 1:56am On Jul 20, 2024
For those who said it was Israel that always wanted a two state solution, you are free to watch this for yourself or shut up


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwG-L7qv0ZY?si=z6Z4F9PGDWYZgfEO

Re: ISRAEL'S Parliament Overwhelmingly Passes Bill Rejecting Palestine State by Empiree: 2:13am On Jul 20, 2024

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