₦airaland Forum

tunjijones:
It has nothing to do with southwest you idiot.

It's dangote Vs Nigerian govt.

Dangote vs southwest dominated government headed by a tribalistic self centered grand pa

Noo.... You guys overestimated Asiwaju. Fo you know why Prof Yaks didn't rig elections in the South? To show Asiwaju that you can't win without us!

As for 2027.... Let his Govt survive it first that's all I can say!

obaidan:
i see what u are saying but u do not know Bola Tinubu, he will rig his way in and nothing will happen, he does not care about rule of law. That is his way. From the day he was sworn in he has started strategizing for 2nd term, 2nd term agenda is much more important to him than the state of the economy, He is going to have both Wike and Fubara on his side, they are going to be more brutal with the rigging in Lagos in 2027, you will be shocked the numbers that will come out of Kano. Bola Tinubu is the master of creating a 1-party state, watch how PDP will appear weaker than it was in 2023, watch how plenty freedome fighters will start springing up party now, a lot of them are being used by decoy but they do not know, Femi Falana said the other day that him and some people are in the process of floating a party that will save Nigerians, is that not voters of Petre Obi's LP that will be moved again? Tinubu will divide whichever state he can divide and rig all the ones he can rig, the same way they wrote results in Lagos, Plateau and Rivers, now they have power, they have INEC totally, they have military, they have police, watch how he is going to move.
We warned Nigerians, 4 years vote for Tinubu na indirect 8 years

I no get the stretches to this Dangote want to use, yes we got the biggest refinery to keep off competition not like it would reduce the price or cost of pms or other fuel products. He entered cement look at the price of cement today. Abeg anything wey no dey favor common man na extortion. We don’t give a damn about the size.

illicit:
Yeah


But no Nigerian politician is better...

So I don't vote

I tend to think that the problem is, we want servicies to be cheap...which in turn impacts on the provision of such services. I mean, I paid N2000 for my university fees. Cheap, but it meant that I stayed in hostels that were awful, had poorly equipped labs and libraries,(I had to buy my own textbooks to stay ahead), and struggled with reading in poor light sometimes.

If we wanted to be serious, we could end subsidy, and promote industrial development. That however means a long period of suffering. China, Korea and Japan that did such things suffered for a while(JAPAN and Korea used to have large numbers of their people japaing abroad because there were no jobs for them at home...that's why some North and South American countries have large populations of Japanese descendent people as well as Koreans). ....and no Nigerian leader wants to promise that.

Independence was promoted on the idea that we would get more money, instead of sending a huge chunk to london. If our independence leaders had told us the truth, that nation building to the level of being a prosperous first world nation is going to mean harsh conditions for a while, we would still be a british colony today.

PHIPEX:
You said same when Landmark was demolished and same with Gokada. Someday it will get to your turn.

The book "Why Nations Fail" call it destructive destruction

Tinubu government keeps destroying instead of building, na so e take build Lagos so?

helinues:
It be like we don get emergency lovers of everything for Nigeria oo

Between Dangote and FG, who should Nigerians be supporting? Dangote is not the only business man in Nigeria to have been granted some unnecessary waivers. Those must be rectified.

Since those policies have been favouring him, we didn't hear peem

you are not intelligent

Bridget95:
Dangote vs southwest dominated government headed by a tribalistic self centered grand pa

Whatever you like you can say fooool...

Tinubu is different from south west you idiot.

nairalanda1:
I tend to think that the problem is, we want servicies to be cheap...which in turn impacts on the provision of such services. I mean, I paid N2000 for my university fees. Cheap, but it meant that I stayed in hostels that were awful, had poorly equipped labs and libraries,(I had to buy my own textbooks to stay ahead), and struggled with reading in poor light sometimes.

If we wanted to be serious, we could end subsidy, and promote industrial development. That however means a long period of suffering. China, Korea and Japan that did such things suffered for a while(JAPAN and Korea used to have large numbers of their people japaing abroad because there were no jobs for them at home...that's why some North and South American countries have large populations of Japanese descendent people as well as Koreans). ....and no Nigerian leader wants to promise that.

Independence was promoted on the idea that we would get more money, instead of sending a huge chunk to london. If our independence leaders had told us the truth, that nation building to the level of being a prosperous first world nation is going to mean harsh conditions for a while, we would still be a british colony today.

Nigeria is fvcked...

LDaVinci:
The good aspect of it is that BAT is gatheing powerful enemies and at this rate, the chances that he will return in 2027 keep reducing as powerful and wealthly forces coaslesce with the masses to work against him. That bodes well for the common man because BAT is the worst thing to befall this country since independence.

Obi go just dey smile, cos it is getting more easier for him to win coming election.
But I fear BAT, that man will do anything possible to remaining in power. Either through restructuring, rigging, the six year single term we are hearing about.
Except things turn around to be good and better in Nigeria

Racoon:
The humongous corruption waiting to be unearthed in this imbralgo is gonna nerve wrecking. It has all been mute from the minster of Petroleum. Fingers crossed!

You may dislike Dangote, because he has been with Govt patronages all this while but,he has outsmarted those in Power- by Creating Jobs, Employments for Millions of Nigerians,which Many Politicians in Nigeria both (Past and Present- especially the Governos,the Ministers and other States Executives,etc,) can't do,but have been taking the same Resources in Dollars to- UAE, Europe, USA,London, Dubai - with many having Properties in these Countries,thereby providing Jobs for other Citizens,while Nigerians Youths remains jobless because of our blind- leaders!
Just imagine the Youths today- without jobs, and without a say- in their affairs!
-Nigerians should not throw away the baby with water nor shall we look at the Messager ( Alh Dangote but his Message to be a True and Patriotic Nigerian.
• His Productions in the Key Areas of:
- Salt Productions,
- Sugar Production
- Cement Production and
- Now Oil and Gas Productions ( the largest in Africa) and the Foreign Exchange Income ( FOREX) that will follow.
Now,he has stated his intention to build Iron Productions and the govt and their Fraudulent Agencies and Footsoldiers -are fighting to be relevant,by calling him different names- Monopoly ' and they couldn't think beyond name calling,as if he is suppressed today, another Monopoly or even Oligopoly -will not rise up in Nigeria!
-It is those still in NNPC- Management and it's Subsidiaries -are the real enemies of Nigerian People,as they don't want average Nigerians to enjoy this God given Oil- with reduced Prices!
They should be fired because they are holding Nigerians to ransom - imagine out of OPEC Members - only Nigeria - Couldn't maintain a Functioning Refinery - is that a good report?
- these are People that can't maintain Functional Refineries for Decades but are just occupying certain Interests - not the Masses interests.
- these NNPC-should go and learn from Petrobass of Brazil and go to learn from ARAMCO of Saudi Arabia.
We have rotten Ministry, Agencies and Depts - all over Nigeria,as they represent their Selfish Interests and Foreign alibi and it's the likes of Dangote-that can save the Common Man,if the Common man,is really ready,to join hands with him for their liberation.

illicit:
Nigeria is fvcked...

We say that because we can't have what we want.

We somehow want good roads, good electricity, good office jobs, and so forth, and we don;t want to wake up and realize that it takes time to get there.

That is why tinubu government is paying a subsidy of 700 million a month, and owing fuel companies 6 billion dollars in import costs, simply because if he does not do that, he would be forced to end subsidy raise prices, and lose votes. That is why Buhari borrowed to hide the cracks, and GEJ caved to the ojota protesters.

I hate saying that we need to get things the hard way. But look at Russia...in the good old days, under communism, everything was cheap. Until the debt rose to a point in the 1980's when sustaining cheap became difficult. Result...bare shelves, food scarcity, etc.

Now Russia does capitalism. Nothing like scarcity again.

When the financial romance was on we were not invited. God is gonna settle the fight for them.

Didi2d:
Obi go just dey smile, cos it is getting more easier for him to win coming election.
But I fear BAT, that man will do anything possible to remaining in power. Either through restructuring, rigging, the six year single term we are hearing about.
Except things turn around to be good and better in Nigeria

Nothing good can happen under BAT because he actually wants to strangle the country to death and kill most Nigerians through hunger.

datola:
This is really bad for Nigeria and the economy.

Things might get so worse for Nigeria if Tinubu does not take decisive actions to calm things down.

No matter the accusation against Dangote, it is still far far better than reallying on foreign products and foreigners.

How will someone that has personal interest be expected to take decision to calm things down. It's either one party capitulates.

helinues:
It be like we don get emergency lovers of everything for Nigeria oo

Between Dangote and FG, who should Nigerians be supporting? Dangote is not the only business man in Nigeria to have been granted some unnecessary waivers. Those must be rectified.

Since those policies have been favouring him, we didn't hear peem

But I thought he was the darling of APC and buhari who needed the hurried commission of the refinery so that buhari could take credit for it before handing over. I thought dangote was a darling of Tinubus asslickers who saw dangote refinery as Tinubus achievement because it is sighted in LFTZ? What has gone wrong?

helinues:
It be like we don get emergency lovers of everything for Nigeria oo

Between Dangote and FG, who should Nigerians be supporting? Dangote is not the only business man in Nigeria to have been granted some unnecessary waivers. Those must be rectified.

Since those policies have been favouring him, we didn't hear peem

The waivers are why cement is not costing 49999 naira for a 25 kg bag now.

Badgers14:
I really feel bad for Dangote, I really do but when he was enjoying during OBJ, GEJ and Buhari regime.. he was smiling while others were crying..

Just like they say, it is turn by turn..

I remember when Obj withdrew Ibeto cement license and dangote cement rose in popularity because Ibeto covered most of the SE, SS and some SW and these are the region with the most new construction.. so , somehow ibeto was squeezed out of the game..

During ObJ tenure, once Dangote sugar refinery was almost complete.. obasanjo banned importation of sugar.. then later ban this and that because it was alleged dangote was involved in those business enterprises...

for clarication ibeto cement license to import was withdrawn because government.had a policy to only license cement that is made in Nigeria,ibeto didn't invest in a cement plant and his imports was stopped,now Nigeria is exporting cement to other countries,monopoly is when you are the only source of that product and can dictate the prices you want,dangote refinery is not a monopoly,there are other turnkey refineries in Nigeria,if they want to let them reduce the price of their Diesel to #700 naira a litre and compete with dangote,the worst mistake tinubu will make is picking a fight with dangote,he is challenging the north and it will not end well at the polls

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Bestmanfornow:
I thought Southwest is safe for investment see how they grab Dangote for balls

nairalanda1:
Basic problem is, the government does not want to remove subsidy.

If Dangote refinery comes on line, it means that fuel would be sold at a high price of over N1000 for it to work well. The government knows that, hence the delay tactics.

Also, those who benefit from the importation of refined products and the subsidy money would lose out. The winners would be Dangote and other domestic refineries that are coming up.

The truth is, most Nigerians prefer cheap fuel, most of the elite prefer the subsidy mechansim and imports to continue. Their interests coincide. The result is that we never ever get to domestic refining.

All because of cheap fuel.

Oh, so you're finally starting to have sense?

When you spent endless months on this space arguing in favour of subsidy removal, some of us tried opening your eyes to the Nigerian reality, but you were too fettered to your textbook convictions to reason otherwise.

Every single Nigerian is going to learn very hard lessons under this government. That is a promise!

Bestmanfornow:
I thought Southwest is safe for investment see how they grab Dangote for balls

Sore losers....

What is the biz of SW with FG agency and Dangote?
We are your landlord.

No investors joke with us.....

We have asked u to take your biz away , u refused. We won't missed you

nairalanda1:
How much is the cost of doing business in NIgeria?

How is our road network, transport network, power supply, etc?

Nothing is cheap. If I underpaid you for work done, and you complained, would you like it if I told you that I am poor, therefore you rich man must keep shut and collect your money?

Let's be realisitc.

You are right. I love your reasoning and analysis

nairalanda1:
Basic problem is, the government does not want to remove subsidy.

If Dangote refinery comes on line, it means that fuel would be sold at a high price of over N1000 for it to work well. The government knows that, hence the delay tactics.

Also, those who benefit from the importation of refined products and the subsidy money would lose out. The winners would be Dangote and other domestic refineries that are coming up.

The truth is, most Nigerians prefer cheap fuel, most of the elite prefer the subsidy mechansim and imports to continue. Their interests coincide. The result is that we never ever get to domestic refining.

All because of cheap fuel.

Keep quiet and stop inserting your own propaganda into a conversation that has nothing to do with it.
The average Nigerian is on Dangote's side except for agbadorians because of their master
NNPC are the ones refusing to give Dangote crude for their selfish need to control the market else they lose relevance. It has nothing to do with subsidy or not

wittywriter:
Dangote is just a government stooge tool to impoverish so many Nigerian Masses.




You don't comprehend....my point isn't about cheap or expensive.



Wittyness.

It is, and you know it.

LIke I said, I know you Nigerians. Berry berry well. I've been looking at this for years, it's making me amused.

You want cheap things. As much as you deny it. You are also angry with dangote because you think he gets favored by government...forgetting there are other companies that make cement, and even Ibeto that people love to cite as an example of how government is harsh on unfavoured businessmen.....is now working and his cement is available.

Kukutenla:
Keep quiet and stop inserting your own propaganda into a conversation that has nothing to do with it.

But as we know, you support girls being beaten up by their army boyfriends when they exercise their rights to leave

That's why you are angry with me right now.

Pride works.

Racoon:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2024-07-23/aliko-dangote-and-nigeria-are-in-dispute-over-his-20-billion-oil-refinery

If this man leaves this country, just be prepared for the real recession.

nairalanda1:
Basic problem is, the government does not want to remove subsidy.

If Dangote refinery comes on line, it means that fuel would be sold at a high price of over N1000 for it to work well. The government knows that, hence the delay tactics.

Also, those who benefit from the importation of refined products and the subsidy money would lose out. The winners would be Dangote and other domestic refineries that are coming up.

The truth is, most Nigerians prefer cheap fuel, most of the elite prefer the subsidy mechansim and imports to continue. Their interests coincide. The result is that we never ever get to domestic refining.

All because of cheap fuel.

Trash analysis. None of the parties involved have the masses at heart. The sooner you know this the better. Interest kọ, excited ni

Kukutenla:
Keep quiet and stop inserting your own propaganda into a conversation that has nothing to do with it.
The average Nigerian is on Dangote's side except for agbadorians because of their master
NNPC are the ones refusing to give Dangote crude for their selfish need to control the market else they lose relevance. It has nothing to do with subsidy or not

Plus you are not on the side of dangote.(I am not on any side, I just know that for a business to run it has to make a profit. Something that is anathema to you communists and marxists)

You always abuse me for advocating for subsidy removal...yet if you were on dangote side, you would support subsidy removal....because it is the only way to make refineries work.

But then again, you do have support for bulliying those that disagree with you, as evidenced by your supporting the chaining of girls who leave a relationship they no longer want.

nairalanda1:
But as we know, you support girls being beaten up by their army boyfriends when they exercise their rights to leave

That's why you are angry with me right now.

Pride works.

What is this one saying?

CorrectionFLuid:
Trash analysis. [b]None of the parties involved have the masses at heart. The sooner you know this the better. Interest kọ, excited n[/b]i

So, if you did a job for one of the masses, and he paid you half of what you quoted, and asked you to forget the rest because he knows you have the masses at heart, not like tinubu who wants votes, or dangote who wants money.....you would accept his argument, and take half your money

You know you would be out of money, and out of a business if you did that for the masses.

Or you would, to ensure you have enough money to even live...be like Dangote.

I don't like dangote ,myself, but I know that businesses needs to make profits.


But then again, that is trash to you.

nairalanda1:
Plus you are not on the side of dangote.(I am not on any side, I just know that for a business to run it has to make a profit. Something that is anathema to you communists and marxists)

You always abuse me for advocating for subsidy removal...yet if you were on dangote side, you would support subsidy removal....because it is the only way to make refineries work.

But then again, you do have support for bulliying those that disagree with you, as evidenced by your supporting the chaining of girls who leave a relationship they no longer want.

Has Dangote called for subsidy removal? Share one quote where he called for subsidy removal

helinues:
It be like we don get emergency lovers of everything for Nigeria oo

Between Dangote and FG, who should Nigerians be supporting? Dangote is not the only business man in Nigeria to have been granted some unnecessary waivers. Those must be rectified.

Since those policies have been favouring him, we didn't hear peem

But he's the first one in bring something new that'll benefit alot. To your suprise Dangote will win this game.

This i have believe

Kukutenla:
What is this one saying?

Well

Kukutenla:
I support him
Sebi Simi don sing am before
Dem no dey hear word

SO when a girl leaves a relationship with a man , and the man decides to chain her up, you support him?

Well, nothing less than expected from a guy who has abused me over the years for holding a view...just a view, that he does not like.


Well, I guess I have a lot to fear from you....should you rule this country, Comrade leader....