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Vianna:
Sheath your swords and give tinubu more time. Nigeria is far better than what you think.

Folashade Tinubu my sister no mind them

Nigeria is not the worst country but know that with our high poverty rate, the people that might be more open to the idea of protesting might be high. And guess the region where the poverty rate is the highest? Your guess is good as mine.

budaatum:
Sorry, but I do not rely on "your president to fix the nation" for me.

I get off my ass and fix the portion of the nation that concerns me myself instead of waiting for some president messiah who likely hasn't got a clue to fix my lot for me.

So are you saying the person who saved up 3.6m to buy a vehicle that is now 9m was lazy or the people who were kidnapped while traveling were lazy or the farmers who were killed or kidnapped while farming were lazy?

Since you claim the responsibility lies on you to provide everything for yourself and not wait for the government does that also include guns to fight bandits?

[quote author=Artscollection post=131191280][/quote]Iam sure you are yaba left candidate.

Your words to you and not me...

Vianna:
Sheath your swords and give tinubu more time. Nigeria is far better than what you think.

You and your family should give Tinubu more time. The shit's about to hit the fan.

Brendaniel:
So why them where you blaming the buyer of the vehicle when clearly the government is the cause of the inflation on the vehicle?

The government is not the cause of inflation, but I'm certain you will disagree.

Nigeria has constantly had double digit inflation, and its cause is productivity not keeping up with consumption. If it weren't for that, we wouldn't even be talking about buying a Lexus ES 330 2006, but would instead be talking about buying a Made in Nigeria 2024 car that its Nigerian makers got paid an inflation busting wage to make. Instead, we are taking our low wage to buy what is thrown away by others.

But I'm not blaming the buyer. I even commended the buyer for being in a position of owning a car he bought for 3.6m that is now worth 9m, which makes him a savvy investor if he sells.

budaatum:
The government is not the cause of inflation, but I'm certain you will disagree.

Nigeria has constantly had double digit inflation, and its cause is productivity not keeping up with consumption. If it weren't for that, we wouldn't even be talking about buying a Lexus ES 330 2006, but would instead be talking about buying a Made in Nigeria 2024 car that its Nigerian makers got paid an inflation busting wage to make. Instead, we are taking our low wage to buy what is thrown away by others.

But I'm not blaming the buyer. I even commended the buyer for being in a position of owning a car he bought for 3.6m that is now worth 9m, which makes him a savvy investor if he sells.

Please stop with the lies, Nigeria has not constantly had double digit inflation, since about 2003 Nigeria had single digit inflation till Buhari's regime, so you are talking totally out of point here...

Defending the government doesn't mean you should tell lies for the government to look innocent. For the stats to be going up and down with change of governments in power then it clearly shows that the government is responsible for inflation or are you trying to say the people where just changing the rate of inflation by themselves?

Does it even make sense to you?

So please stop with this nonsense analysis of yours....

Brendaniel:
So are you saying the person who saved up 3.6m to buy a vehicle that is now 9m was lazy or the people who were kidnapped while traveling were lazy or the farmers who were killed or kidnapped while farming were lazy?

Since you claim the responsibility lies on you to provide everything for yourself and not wait for the government does that also include guns to fight bandits?

Nope. I am not saying a person with 3.6m is lazy, since lazy people don't often have 3.6m. And I have not said anything here about "people who were kidnapped while traveling" or "the farmers who were killed or kidnapped".

In fact, I am saying government is me (we) the people, since our government is not elected from planet Mars. And if you asked me, I'd even say the bandits is also me the people, since they too are not from Mars but are amongst us the people.

So, yes, the responsibility does lie with me and we the people to not be lazy, and not kidnap and kill, and instead govern ourselves in ways that would exclude such things.

We are after all responsible for the leaders we elect and the policies they impose on us that results in us being governed well or badly, no?

Perhaps we should open our eyes better so we see next time instead of wailing at our bad choice.

budaatum:
Nope. I am not saying a person with 3.6m is lazy, since lazy people don't often have 3.6m. And I have not said anything here about "people who were kidnapped while traveling" or "the farmers who were killed or kidnapped".

In fact, I am saying government is me (we) the people, since our government is not elected from planet Mars. And if you asked me, I'd even say the bandits is also me the people, since they too are not from Mars but are amongst us the people.

So, yes, the responsibility does lie with me and we the people to not be lazy, and not kidnap and kill, and instead govern ourselves in ways that would exclude such things.

We are after all responsible for the leaders we elect and the policies they impose on us that results in us being governed well or badly, no?

Perhaps we should open our eyes better so we see next time instead of wailing at our bad choice.

So how do you stop another man from kidnapping you in present day Nigeria?

Brendaniel:
Please stop with the lies, Nigeria has not constantly had double digit inflation, since about 2003 Nigeria had single digit inflation till Buhari's regime, so you are talking totally out of point here...

Point is, Nigeria's inflation has been abnormally far too high. America hit post 5% and they are wailing like its 50.

As for defending a government, please do not make me laugh. Nigeria has not had a government in my lifetime that I could defend, and I am going back to very close to pre Gowon here.

If you asked me, we suck at governing ourselves. My hope is the trial and error and opportunity to try again that democracy provides will eventually ensure we learn. And my projected date for that, trend considered, is 3024.

Brendaniel:
So how do you stop another man from kidnapping you in present day Nigeria?

Same way I've stopped another man from kidnapping me in present day Nigeria, and the same way you've stopped another man from kidnapping you in Nigeria.

I of course assume another man has not kidnapped you in Nigeria, so correct me if I am wrong. If not, whatever we've been doing seems to have worked so far.

budaatum:
Point is, Nigeria's inflation has been abnormally far too high. America hit post 5% and they are wailing like its 50.

As for defending a government, please do not make me laugh. Nigeria has not had a government in my lifetime that I could defend, and I am going back to very close to pre Gowon here.

If you asked me, we suck at governing ourselves. My hope is the trial and error and opportunity to try again that democracy provides will eventually ensure we learn. And my projected date for that, trend considered, is 3024.

We don't suck at governing ourselves, it is people like you who would not call a spade a spade and be truthful with issues in Nigeria that are part of the problem.

You can see the chart that you posted, are you trying to say it was the citizens that were causing the rise and fall in that chart?

That it was not the decisions and policies from the government that was causing the changes in the chart?

budaatum:
Same way I've stopped another man from kidnapping me in present day Nigeria, and the same way you've stopped another man from kidnapping you in Nigeria.

I of course assume another man has not kidnapped you in Nigeria, so correct me if I am wrong. If not, whatever we've been doing seems to have worked so far.

That's because you have not encountered a kidnapper before....

What would you tell a man who is encountering a kidnap situation to do to stop the kidnappers from kidnappings him?

Brendaniel:
We don't suck at governing ourselves,

You are very welcome to believe the above.

Personally, I look at the results of our self governance and feel we are not very good at it, and hope we take responsibility and learn, or rather, educate ourselves to govern ourselves better so we are not here moaning that a 3.6m Lexus ES 330 2006 is now 9m.

In some countries, wear and tear would have reduced the price of that 3.6m Lexus ES 330 2006 by half.

Brendaniel:
That's because you have not encountered a kidnapper before....

What would you tell a man who is encountering a kidnap situation to do to stop the kidnappers from kidnappings him?

Have you encountered a kidnapper before?

Do you think it wise to wait until you "encounter a kidnap situation" before you do what you currently do to stop the kidnappers from kidnapping you?

Sorry, but since I wouldn't be kidnapping anyone, I sincerely doubt I'd be in a position to be telling a "man who is encountering a kidnap situation" what to do.

In fact, I think being in such a situation to be telling a "man who is encountering a kidnap situation" what to do would be rather stupid because I would be placing myself in the same situation where I would be encountering kidnappers myself, which I doubt would be a smart thing to do.

budaatum:
You are very welcome to believe the above.

Personally, I look at the results of our self governance and feel we are not very good at it, and hope we take responsibility and learn, or rather, educate ourselves to govern ourselves better so we are not here moaning that a 3.6m Lexus ES 330 2006 is now 9m.

In some countries, wear and tear would have reduced the price of that 3.6m Lexus ES 330 2006 by half.

That's because of people like you who will not call a spade a spade..

I mean just look at the country and look at the praise singers of the present government, are they calling a spade a spade? that's because they are just like you...

One was even prasing you here for your comment, that's because you are reasoning and talking like them, that's why the country is where it is...

That's why you believe you guys suck at governance not we who call a spade a spade, we don't believe that...

How can good governance come out of people who don't address issues as it should?

The evidence is very clear, the more you guys keep reasoning and talking like this then expect rubbish governance because the people in government will believe that they are doing right....

When people like you cannot call a spade a spade...

budaatum:
Have you encountered a kidnapper before?

Do you think it wise to wait until you "encounter a kidnap situation" before you do what you currently do to stop the kidnappers from kidnapping you?

Sorry, but since I wouldn't be kidnapping anyone, I sincerely doubt I'd be in a position to be telling a "man who is encountering a kidnap situation" what to do.

In fact, I think being in such a situation to be telling a "man who is encountering a kidnap situation" what to do would be rather stupid because I would be placing myself in the same situation where I would be encountering kidnappers myself, which I doubt would be a smart thing to do.

So who's responsibility is it to protect the man in such a situation?

Brendaniel:
You can see the chart that you posted, are you trying to say it was the citizens that were causing the rise and fall in that chart?

That it was not the decisions and policies from the government that was causing the changes in the chart?

I am saying, we the people who are the citizens, elected the governments that imposed the decisions and the policies that caused the rise and fall and changes in the chart.

And I am saying, if we don't like the decisions and policies that caused the rises and falls in the chart that the governments that we the people elected have imposed on us, we should chose better next time instead of making out the rises and falls in the chart has nothing to do with us the people who elected the governments from amongst ourselves.

Brendaniel:
So who's responsibility is it to protect the man in such a situation?

I can not tell you about some other man, Brendaniel.

It is my responsibility to protect myself from kidnappers Or better still, and to be more accurate, I take responsibility for protecting myself from kidnappers.

No one cares about me more than I care for myself such that they will protect me from kidnappers. And I am far too responsible for my self than to leave my protection from kidnappers to others.

budaatum:
I am saying, we the people who are the citizens, elected the governments that imposed the decisions and the policies that caused the rise and fall and changes in the chart.

And I am saying, if we don't like the decisions and policies that caused the rises and falls in the chart that the governments that we the people elected have imposed on us, we should chose better next time instead of making out the rises and falls in the chart has nothing to do with us the people who elected the governments from amongst ourselves.

Sorry, but I do not rely on "your president to fix the nation" for me.

I get off my ass and fix the portion of the nation that concerns me myself instead of waiting for some president messiah who likely hasn't got a clue to fix my lot for me.

Read you comment again up there, going by what you said there, why do you need a government or even election if you are willing to do everything for yourself, what do you need the government for in your life?

If you don't need the government to fix anything for you why are you bothered about elections or the type of leaders that get elected?

budaatum:
I can not tell you about some other man, Brendaniel.

It is my responsibility to protect myself from kidnappers Or better still, and to be more accurate, I take responsibility for protecting myself from kidnappers.

No one cares about me more than I care for myself such that they will protect me from kidnappers. And I am far too responsible for my self than to leave my protection from kidnappers to others.

And still you could not tell me how you would protect yourself from a kidnapper?

And you want me to believe that you prepared to protect yourself?

Brendaniel:
And still you could not tell me how you would protect yourself from a kidnapper?

And you want me to believe that you prepared to protect yourself?

My preparation does not start when I am "encountering a kidnap situation". It starts so I don't encounter a kidnap situation at all in the first place.

I have not been kidnapped and neither have you, so we have either protected ourselves or have not been worth kidnapping, which is as good as, don't you think?

budaatum:
My preparation does not start when I am "encountering a kidnap situation". It starts so I don't encounter a kidnap situation at all in the first place.

I have not been kidnapped and neither have you, so we have either protected ourselves or have not been worth kidnapping, which is as good as, don't you think?

So you think the people who got kidnapped prepared to get kidnapped?

Bankowner:
Yeah!
With a loaf of bread going for #2k.

Don't mind the dead slave, zombified creature

Brendaniel:
Read you comment again up there, going by what you said there, why do you need a government or even election if you are willing to do everything for yourself, ....

Everything for myself includes governing and government, Brendaniel.

As I said, government is not some people we bring from Mars to govern us, but are people elected by ourselves from amongst ourselves.

Think of the government of Nigeria as me buda and you Brendaniel all the other citizens of Nigeria from amongst who some are elected by us all to hold office. It might make you understand that buda and Brendaniel and all the other citizens of Nigeria are responsible for our governance or misgovernance and inflation and the kidnapping of ourselves by ourselves.

Brendaniel:
So you think the people who got kidnapped prepared to get kidnapped?

Nope, I don't think "the people who got kidnapped prepared to get kidnapped", and neither have I said any such nonsense.

budaatum:
Everything for myself includes governing and government, Brendaniel.

As I said, government is not some people we bring from Mars to govern us, but are people elected by ourselves from amongst ourselves.

Think of the government of Nigeria as me buda and you Brendaniel all the other citizens of Nigeria from amongst who some are elected by us all to hold office. It might make you understand that buda and Brendaniel and all the other citizens of Nigeria are responsible for our governance or misgovernance and inflation and the kidnapping of ourselves by ourselves.

So what then is the responsibility of the government if the citizens are responsible for everything happening to themselves?

Brendaniel:
So what then is the responsibility of the government if the citizens are responsible for everything happening to themselves?

In a democracy, the citizens are the government, and are responsible for everything happening to themselves.

If we the citizens do not like what is happening to ourselves, we thankfully have an opportunity every 4 years to vote for a government that will make something better to happen to ourselves, if we are wise at least, and responsible citizens, and don't just stupidly vote for ọmọ wa ni emilokan.

But if they, or rather, we the people, choose to be stupid, then we will lay on the crooked hurtful bed we did not make how we'd have preferred we made it.

budaatum:
In a democracy, the citizens are the government, and are responsible for everything happening to themselves.

If we the citizens do not like what is happening to ourselves, we thankfully have an opportunity every 4 years to vote for a government that will make something better to happen to ourselves, if we are wise at least, and responsible citizens, and don't just stupidly vote for ọmọ wa ni emilokan.

But if they, or rather, we the people, choose to be stupid, then we will lay on the crooked hurtful bed we did not make how we'd have preferred we made it.

So what if the leader rigs himself into power?

Is that still the responsibility of the citizens?

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