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We Can’t Have A Nigerian Compete In Miss SA - South African Sport Minister by God1000(op): 2:50pm On Jul 30, 2024
Minister of sport, arts and culture Gayton McKenzie has entered the debate surrounding Miss South Africa contestant Chidimma Vanessa Adetshina's eligibility to compete for the title.

Adetshina has been subjected to scrutiny on social media due to her bloodline. She is a South African, born at Soweto's Chris Hani Baragwanath Academic Hospital to a Nigerian father and a mother of Mozambican descent.

Many people have questioned her eligibility to contest Miss SA despite being born in South Africa. The debate intensified this week after a video of Adetshina with people, some dressed in Nigerian traditional clothing and celebrating her success in the competition, surfaced online, further fuelling the argument that she was not “South African enough” to compete for the title.

Some people on social media called for McKenzie to intervene. Known for his outspoken views on social media, McKenzie expressed concern about Adetshina's participation, saying he would look into the matter.

I just returned from Paris and will definitely get more information. We truly cannot have Nigerians competing in our Miss SA competition. I want to get all the facts before I comment, but it gives funny vibes already,” McKenzie tweeted.
ActionSA leader Herman Mashaba also joined the debate.

This young woman is compromising herself by identifying with characters who are likely in South Africa illegally. Bad idea,” Mashaba said on X.
EFF leader Julius Malema spoke about the matter during the party's podcast interview last week.

Your citizenship is determined by where you were born, so if she was born here, she’s South African. It doesn’t matter. She’s not her parents, she’s herself. So why say she’s from Nigeria or Mozambique? She was born here,” he said.

“We cannot punish people based on where their parents come from. I’ve not followed the debate closely, but I would assume Miss SA has done the necessary due diligence and determined she is a suitable candidate.

“These are issues stirred up by those who spread hate among Africans. Such people should not be supported.”
The controversy started when Adetshina mentioned her parents were not from South Africa in her Miss SA entry video. She is in the top 11, and the criticism has become more intense as she moves closer to the crown.

The Miss SA organisation is yet to issue a formal statement on the matter. However, it has emphasised its strict requirements on its website regarding Miss SA entries: “Miss South Africa entrants must be South African citizens and in possession of a valid South African ID or passport. If an applicant holds dual citizenship, they must provide details of both on the entry form.

“By entering to compete for the title of Miss South Africa 2024, you will be required to consent to and authorise the Miss South Africa organisation to conduct a psychological wellbeing assessment, including resilience testing and background checks to verify the information provided in your entry form, as well as confirmation that you are an upstanding citizen worthy of representing the country.”

With one week remaining to the official crowning of Miss SA, a petition has been launched to remove Adetshina from the competition.
https://www.timeslive.co.za/politics/2024-07-30-we-cant-have-a-nigerian-compete-in-miss-sa-mckenzie-enters-debate/


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Re: We Can’t Have A Nigerian Compete In Miss SA - South African Sport Minister by God1000(op):
If she was born in South Africa then she is South African. Its common sense. What is all this debate about?


We have Africans Born in Europe and America representing these countries without any issue, where's the love and unity in Africa?
Re: We Can’t Have A Nigerian Compete In Miss SA - South African Sport Minister by EreluRoz: 2:53pm On Jul 30, 2024
I kind of agree with them, she's Nigerian and not south African
Re: We Can’t Have A Nigerian Compete In Miss SA - South African Sport Minister by God1000(op):
EreluRoz:
I kind of agree with them, she's Nigerian and not south African
she's a south African because she was born there
Re: We Can’t Have A Nigerian Compete In Miss SA - South African Sport Minister by EreluRoz: 2:54pm On Jul 30, 2024
God1000:
she's a south African because she was born there.
It doesn't make her a south African simply because she was born there. I take side with them on this
Re: We Can’t Have A Nigerian Compete In Miss SA - South African Sport Minister by Myrrhis: 2:59pm On Jul 30, 2024
EreluRoz:
It doesn't make her a south African simply because she was born there. I take side with them on this
What are you even saying?
Should they ignore the fact that her mother is a South African?

The main reason why they have issues with her is because she's partly Nigerian.
Whether they accept it or not, she's partly South African also, so she's eligible.
Re: We Can’t Have A Nigerian Compete In Miss SA - South African Sport Minister by EreluRoz: 3:01pm On Jul 30, 2024
Myrrhis:
What are you even saying?
Should they ignore the fact that her mother is a South African?

The main reason why they have issues with her is because she's partly Nigerian.
Whether they accept it or not, she's partly South African also, so she's eligible.
We are identified by our paternal root and as such she's Nigerian. Even Nigerians will not allow such
Re: We Can’t Have A Nigerian Compete In Miss SA - South African Sport Minister by DaddyCoool(f): 3:01pm On Jul 30, 2024
OP your title is Misleading. She's saying the opposite
Re: We Can’t Have A Nigerian Compete In Miss SA - South African Sport Minister by God1000(op): 3:01pm On Jul 30, 2024
EreluRoz:
It doesn't make her a south African simply because she was born there. I take side with them on this
according to south Africa nationality law, You automatically qualify for South African citizenship if:

1.you are born in South Africa and at least one of your parents is a South African citizen or SA permanent residency permit holder.

2. if you are adopted by a South African citizen.
Re: We Can’t Have A Nigerian Compete In Miss SA - South African Sport Minister by Massiveglory: 3:02pm On Jul 30, 2024
If you are among the online and offline miscreants who celebrated similar madness in lagos during elections and you come here to insult south africa, THUNDER will strike you.
Re: We Can’t Have A Nigerian Compete In Miss SA - South African Sport Minister by EreluRoz: 3:04pm On Jul 30, 2024
God1000:
according to south Africa nationality law, You automatically qualify for South African citizenship if:

1.you are born in South Africa and at least one of your parents is a South African citizen or SA permanent residency permit holder.

2. if you are adopted by a South African citizen.
But it's clear they ain't ready to follow their law which is why we are Africans. Law or no law you'll be identified by your paternal root as an African
Re: We Can’t Have A Nigerian Compete In Miss SA - South African Sport Minister by Nukilia: 3:06pm On Jul 30, 2024
Mad people full everywhere! It's only when the hear Nigerian that they start foaming in the mouth.

No thanks to our politicians that are making a public ridicule of Nigerians and our criminal gangs embarrassing us all over the world...
Re: We Can’t Have A Nigerian Compete In Miss SA - South African Sport Minister by God1000(op):
EreluRoz:
But it's clear they ain't ready to follow their law which is why we are Africans. Law or no law you'll be identified by your paternal root as an African
what do you mean they ain't ready to follow their law?

What about Nigerians born in Europe that are representing these countries in several sporting events without any problem

Her parents, a Nigerian father and Mozambican mother both permanent residency permit holders gave birth to her there which is one of the requirements to be regarded as south African
Re: We Can’t Have A Nigerian Compete In Miss SA - South African Sport Minister by brain54(m): 3:18pm On Jul 30, 2024
Seems to me south Africans...

Wouldn't have had any problem with her contesting if she had any other country's ancestry.

The grugde here is she having Nigerian ancestry!
Re: We Can’t Have A Nigerian Compete In Miss SA - South African Sport Minister by Pepperdemisback: 3:20pm On Jul 30, 2024
Massiveglory:
If you are among the online and offline miscreants who celebrated similar madness in lagos during elections and you come here to insult south africa, THUNDER will strike you.
Stop shifting post, Chinedu is an apologetic bigot who never associated himself with his father's root. Has no Yoruba name but adopted one just for election, doesn't understand Yoruba and never cared about it, insults his father's land online and offline publicly but hasn't apologized for his bigotry post up till today.
Bianca married Ojukwu for 22 years but denied Election in Anambra. Akeredodu's wife was flogged with canes by Igbos in Imo state. So, go drink cold Fanta.
Go and look at her names well, they are Igbo names and Surname mispelt. So, her father must be another confused Chinedu from Biafra who wants to develop SA.
By the way, you belong to your maternal roots in South Africa and maybe Ghana.
Re: We Can’t Have A Nigerian Compete In Miss SA - South African Sport Minister by Pepperdemisback:
brain54:
Seems to me south Africans...

Wouldn't have had any problem with her contesting if she had any other country's ancestry.

The grugde here is she having Nigerian ancestry!
You nailed it!
Most especially the Igbo names, cos they are not good with them at all because of drugs
Re: We Can’t Have A Nigerian Compete In Miss SA - South African Sport Minister by Pepperdemisback: 3:24pm On Jul 30, 2024
God1000:
she's a south African because she was born there
In South Africa and Ghana, it seems they claim mother land but not father's land. If she wants to represent SA, why displaying Nigeria culture there, she's confused.
Re: We Can’t Have A Nigerian Compete In Miss SA - South African Sport Minister by NSK4U(m): 3:25pm On Jul 30, 2024
Ok
Re: We Can’t Have A Nigerian Compete In Miss SA - South African Sport Minister by raskymonojendor:
She even lost more support in the last 24 hours as a result of a video trending on South African social media.

In the video, She went to visit what sort of looks like an Ibo union association and those ones where chest beating on video in Ibo and English about how chidinma was going to win the contest.

Re: We Can’t Have A Nigerian Compete In Miss SA - South African Sport Minister by YorubaPrince: 3:26pm On Jul 30, 2024
She's a South African with Nigerian parents.

We blacks are our own biggest problems. All the past winners of this useless event have been whites, and these fools had no issues with it till a black lady with Nigerian background.

You wonder why black pple can never progress. angry
Re: We Can’t Have A Nigerian Compete In Miss SA - South African Sport Minister by jchioma: 3:26pm On Jul 30, 2024
“Miss South Africa entrants must be South African citizens and in possession of a valid South African ID or passport. If an applicant holds dual citizenship, they must provide details of both on the entry form.“
The minister is just pandering to the whims of a people who feel jealous and intimidated by her Nigerian connection. The reaction would have been different if she was from Mozambique or somewhere else. Anyways if push comes to shove, she should leave their competition for them.
Re: We Can’t Have A Nigerian Compete In Miss SA - South African Sport Minister by tifirmuny: 3:26pm On Jul 30, 2024
EreluRoz:
But it's clear they ain't ready to follow their law which is why we are Africans. Law or no law you'll be identified by your paternal root as an African
Can you read and understand, no offense?
Re: We Can’t Have A Nigerian Compete In Miss SA - South African Sport Minister by nairalanda1(m):
God1000:
If she was born in South Africa then she is South African. Its common sense. What is all this debate about?


We have Africans Born in Europe and America representing these countries without any issue, where's the love and unity in Africa?
South Africa is a rich country with a large poor black population. After the ANC came to power in 1994, more black people came to South Africa. Most of them were not skilled, and pretty soon were competing with poor south africans in the unskilled and SME Level.

Result, many black SA Lost out. ANC too has not done enough to help matters which is why this last election, voters showed them shege. They won, but not enough and had to go and beg to form a coalition with other parties.

RIghtly or wrongly, many black South Africans view African migrants as taking away opporutnites from them

The Nigeria-born Miss SA candidate filters into that narrative. It does not matter that she was born in SA , and has citizenship, all that matters is she is a foreigner taking away the space a humble Zulu, Xhosa, Thembu, or even Coloured, Afrikaans, or Indian gal should get.

The surprising thing is Malema speaking up in support of her, especially when most of his supporters are poor black South Africans who buy the above narrative.


MODIFIED

This is not about calling one country or group of country evil, this is about raising issues for thought. Maybe I should have made it clear. Sorry if I was not clear enough.
Re: We Can’t Have A Nigerian Compete In Miss SA - South African Sport Minister by Omoawoke(m): 3:26pm On Jul 30, 2024
Black South Africans

Lazy, violent, criminals, HIV, poverty, and hate filled against other blacks from other African countries.
What a people
Re: We Can’t Have A Nigerian Compete In Miss SA - South African Sport Minister by Ttipsy(f):
EreluRoz:
It doesn't make her a south African simply because she was born there. I take side with them on this
but a Nigerian who’s kids are born in America can be called an American ??

You are a joker
Re: We Can’t Have A Nigerian Compete In Miss SA - South African Sport Minister by Ahigbo1: 3:27pm On Jul 30, 2024
Taking xenophobia to another level. Hmmm embarassed
Re: We Can’t Have A Nigerian Compete In Miss SA - South African Sport Minister by Cmanforall: 3:27pm On Jul 30, 2024
If she does not have SA nationality, it is understandable
Re: We Can’t Have A Nigerian Compete In Miss SA - South African Sport Minister by oluwaseyi0: 3:27pm On Jul 30, 2024
I agree

If reversed is the case Nigerians will not agree too

Nigerian shouldn't dish what they can't take

Ghana must go comes to mind
Re: We Can’t Have A Nigerian Compete In Miss SA - South African Sport Minister by madridguy(m): 3:27pm On Jul 30, 2024
lipsrsealed
Re: We Can’t Have A Nigerian Compete In Miss SA - South African Sport Minister by advanceDNA: 3:27pm On Jul 30, 2024
EreluRoz:
It doesn't make her a south African simply because she was born there. I take side with them on this
On a normal day.....u seff nor too normal naa
Re: We Can’t Have A Nigerian Compete In Miss SA - South African Sport Minister by Cmanforall: 3:28pm On Jul 30, 2024
Ahigbo1:
Taking xenophobia to another level. Hmmm embarassed
Not everything is xenophobia.

Someone like you may not allow someone from another state to contest for election in your state, even if he was born there and has lived all his life in your state
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