₦airaland Forum

babasolution:
Oyo had declined and finally fell in 1820s,Yoruba land was in grievous civil war from that time on,what guarantee of safety are you talking about.infact it was the fall of oyo and the Yoruba civil war that drove Yorubas into LAGOS, prior to the time,LAGOS was considered a backwater,Yoruba civillization was never a coastal civilisation but a land based on. The Yoruba prior to the civil war never rated LAGOS

Oyos decline led to the rise of the Powerful Ibadan, and Egbas Kingdoms both of which were formerly under Alaafin Oyo

Ibadan and the Egbado people on the Coast remained loyal to Oyo
Ibadan itself was actually a huge Oyo Refugee Camp that became a Major Military power and Empire itself
The people of Ibadan remained loyal to Alaafin and it was Alaafin who signed the Kiriji Treaty on behalf of Ibadan and Egbado as their Sovereign Overlord
The Egbas has rebelled fully against Oyo and were under Alake

Christistruth02:
Oyos decline led to the rise of the Powerful Ibadan, and Egbas Kingdoms both of which were formerly under Alaafin Oyo

Ibadan and the Egbado people on the Coast remained loyal to Oyo
Ibadan itself was actually a huge Oyo Refugee Camp that became a Major Military power and Empire itself
The people of Ibadan remained loyal to Alaafin and it was Alaafin who signed the Kiriji Treaty on behalf of Ibadan and Egbado as their Sovereign Overlord
The Egbas has rebelled fully against Oyo and were under Alake

Yorubaland was in civil war,there was no guarantee of safety for trade in that axis,the influx of yoruba refugees to LAGOS,was what boosted Lagos, not long-standing international trade

babasolution:
Yorubaland was in civil war,there was no guarantee of safety for trade in that axis,the influx of yoruba refugees to LAGOS,was what boosted Lagos, not long-standing international trade

You don't know Yoruba History
And you don't know how Yoruba were guaranteed safe passage on permission through even Enemy Territory when on Legitimate Business so you can make no Comment

You are only interested in attacking Yoruba History at all casts and it is Obnoxious and offensive

Christistruth02:
You don't know Yoruba History
And you don't know how Yoruba were guaranteed safe passage on permission through even Enemy Territory when on Legitimate Business so you can make no Comment

You are only interested in attacking Yoruba History at all casts and it is Obnoxious and offensive

That is fact,I read Yoruba history from prof akintoyes history of Yoruba book and tayo fanirans Yoruba a new history book,along with numerous other papers and documents.

These are researched history works.

There is no gainsaying that refugees actually catalysed the boosting of Lagos into an economic centre especially after its acquisition by the British.

The war actually made LAGOS a new centre of trade and economic activity.

Prior to that time,Lagos was simply not,Yorubas of that era regarded Lagos as a backwater area

babasolution:
That is fact,I read Yoruba history from prof akintoyes history of Yoruba book and tayo fanirans Yoruba a new history book,along with numerous other papers and documents.

These are researched history works.

There is no gainsaying that refugees actually catalysed the boosting of Lagos into an economic centre especially after its acquisition by the British.

The war actually made LAGOS a new centre of trade and economic activity.

Prior to that time,Lagos was simply not,Yorubas of that era regarded Lagos as a backwater area

You read Yoruba History?
Our People lived it
And we are still living it

You don't know Yoruba History


Ok

Why did the Yorubas build the Sungbo Eredo Kingdom in Lagos and Ogun State between the 6th and 9th Century and which present Yoruba Obas descended from that Kingdom?

Oya tell us we are listening

Please kindly explain it to us
we dey wait

Christistruth02:
You read Yoruba History?
Our People lived it
And we are still living it

You don't know Yoruba History


Ok

Why did the Yorubas build the Sungbo Eredo Kingdom in Lagos and Ogun State between the 6th and 9th Century and which present Yoruba Obas descended from that Kingdom?

Oya tell us we are listening

Please kindly explain it to us
we dey wait

Sungbo eredo was built in ijebu by ancient peoples which was lost in antiquity by a people believed to be autochonos to the area not necessarily of Yoruba extraction.

babasolution:
Sungbo eredo was built in ijebu by ancient peoples which was lost in antiquity by a people believed to be autochonos to the area not necessarily of Yoruba extraction.

Have you heard of the Yoruba Moba Eredo People how dare you claim they were lost to Antiquity?

Your Yoruba History is infuriating

They are in Lagos Ijebu Ekiti and Benin Republic

Christistruth02:
Have you heard of the Yoruba Moba Eredo People how dare you claim they were lost to Antiquity?

Your Yoruba History is infuriating

They are in Lagos Ijebu Ekiti and Benin Republic

I listened to a woman on a program,an elderly woman, indigene of Lagos, she claimed to be from that moba civilisation, she claimed they aren't omo odua ,that they aren't of Yoruba extraction

babasolution:
I listened to a woman on a program,an elderly woman, indigene of Lagos, she claimed to be from that moba civilisation, she claimed they aren't omo odua ,that they aren't of Yoruba extraction

You know that I told you that your version of History of Yoruba is infuriating

I mean it

The Moba Eredo People are Yorubas

They migrated from Ile Ife before Oduduwa ruled Ife as King just like the Ijebu and Owo People

Oore Otun Ekiti is a direct descendant of the Moba Kings
Have the Otun Ekiti people and Ijebu been lost to History?
No!!!


Now please kindly go and face your own People's History and stop trying hard to Mutilate our own Yoruba History

Christistruth02:
You know that I told you that your version of History of Yoruba is infuriating

I mean it

The Moba Eredo People are Yorubas

They migrated from Ile Ife before Oduduwa ruled Ife as King just like the Ijebu and Owo People

Oore Otun Ekiti is a direct descendant of the Moba Kings
Have the Otun Ekiti people and Ijebu been lost to History?
No!!!


Now please kindly go and face your own People's History and stop trying hard to Mutilate our own Yoruba History

Look,what proofs do you have that they migrated from IFE, there's been many researchers that have debunked the IFE "migration " narrative of various Yoruba groups. That is why you should read history books and documents. Many traditional history are myths,that's why it's infuriating to you,cos you have been acculturated to believe that all traditional history is authentic.

Majority Yoruba like to believe in their traditional history alone without doing proper research and get shocked and angry when the narratives they grew up to believe in are debunked

babasolution:
Look,what proofs do you have that they migrated from IFE, there's been many researchers that have debunked the IFE "migration " narrative of various Yoruba groups. That is why you should read history books and documents. Many traditional history are myths,that's why it's infuriating to you,cos you have been acculturated to believe that all traditional history is authentic.

Majority Yoruba like to believe in their traditional history alone without doing proper research and get shocked and angry when the narratives they grew up to believe in are debunked

But you want to hold on to the IPOB lie of being Jewish .


Leave other people's history and focus on your own .

babasolution:
Look,what proofs do you have that they migrated from IFE, there's been many researchers that have debunked the IFE "migration " narrative of various Yoruba groups. That is why you should read history books and documents. Many traditional history are myths,that's why it's infuriating to you,cos you have been acculturated to believe that all traditional history is authentic.

Majority Yoruba like to believe in their traditional history alone without doing proper research and get shocked and angry when the narratives they grew up to believe in are debunked

The Oore Otun Ekiti who is the highest Ruler and Custodian of Moba People doesn't know their own History according to you?

Was it your own Father's that built Sungbo Eredo Kingdom that is the Largest ruins of any City in Sub Saharan Africa??

MossadAgent:
But you want to hold on to the IPOB lie of being Jewish .


Leave other people's history and focus on your own .

The Jewish narrative is crap.
I'm not Igbo though

Christistruth02:
The Oore Otun Ekiti who is the highest Ruler and Custodian of Moba People doesn't know their own History according to you?

Was it your own Father's that built Sungbo Eredo Kingdom?

It's possible, many tribes and groups today cannot exactly know or authenticate their history because it was largely undocumented, there's been a lot of mix up ,loss and addition as time goes by

Christistruth02:
The Oore Otun Ekiti who is the highest Ruler and Custodian of Moba People doesn't know their own History according to you?

Was it your own Father's that built Sungbo Eredo Kingdom that is the Largest ruins of any City in Sub Saharan Africa??

Even the ekiti you speak about,if you read the history of Yoruba by prof Akintoye, he narrated that there's a narrative that most of the root ekitis were not originally yoruboid speaking or yoruboid extraction, it was an influx of yoruboid groups that mixed up with them that made them yoruboid speaking, look the Yoruboid speaking groups actually met autochonos aborigine non yoruboid speaking groups in most places they call home today

babasolution:
It's possible, many tribes and groups today cannot exactly know or authenticate their history because it was largely undocumented, there's been a lot of mix up ,loss and addition as time goes by

When it comes to Yorubas you yourself know that they never Joke with their Ancient Ancestral lineage or History

Christistruth02:
When it comes to Yorubas you yourself know that they never Joke with their Ancient Ancestral lineage or History

Not only Yorubas,even still,mix ups definitely occurs

MossadAgent:
See this one

Calabar was the first capital of Nigeria until WW1 and German Cameroun next door forced Lugard to move the capital to Lagos

Calabar was reduced to a mere province under the Old Eastern Region with Enugu built from scratch using the resources from minority provinces.

It's now you remember Calabar. When Calabar was trapped in your eastern Region it was totally neglected for Enugu project.

Where is that your Enugu today in the scheme of things ?


It's good that you are all now seeing the tribal bigotry and Ibo supremacist ideology and practices of Zik and his minions.

Instead of ensuring Calabar compete with Lagos, Zik was more bothered dragging Lagos and building Enugu .

It's now you see the strategic geo-economic relevance of calabar.

Good morning.

Thanks for your historical submission!

MossadAgent:
See this one

Calabar was the first capital of Nigeria until WW1 and German Cameroun next door forced Lugard to move the capital to Lagos

Calabar was reduced to a mere province under the Old Eastern Region with Enugu built from scratch using the resources from minority provinces.

It's now you remember Calabar. When Calabar was trapped in your eastern Region it was totally neglected for Enugu project.

Where is that your Enugu today in the scheme of things ?


It's good that you are all now seeing the tribal bigotry and Ibo supremacist ideology and practices of Zik and his minions.

Instead of ensuring Calabar compete with Lagos, Zik was more bothered dragging Lagos and building Enugu .

It's now you see the strategic geo-economic relevance of calabar.

Good morning.

What Azikiwe did to Calabar to be honest with you the Leaders of the SE are supposed to gather themselves together and go to beg the Calabar People for forgiveness

What Azikiwe did to damage the leadership Position of Calabar in the East was not just 123456 or 7 things
It was a Constant Policy of Azikiwe followed up by Gen Ironsi and Ojukwu
It backfired when they tried to takeover Calabar Ancestral Homeland completely and Ojukwu was deporting the Calabar people into Concentration Camps to die of Starvation while being guarded by Ojukwu's troops.

A wholesale Slaughter of their leaders opposed to Ojukwu had preceded that.


The descendants of those wicked men will soon turn up to deny it but that was the Truth

Christistruth02:
What Azikiwe did to Calabar to be honest with you the Leaders of the SE are supposed to gather themselves together and go to beg the Calabar People for forgiveness

What Azikiwe did to damage the leadership Position of Calabar in the East was not just 123456 or 7 things
It was a Constant Policy of Azikiwe followed up by Gen Ironsi and Ojukwu
It backfired when they tried to takeover Calabar Ancestral Homeland completely and Ojukwu was deporting the Calabar people into Concentration Camps to die of Starvation while being guarded by Ojukwu's troops.

A wholesale Slaughter of their leaders opposed to Ojukwu had preceded that.


The descendants of those wicked men will soon up to deny it but that was the Truth

The truth will set you free

babasolution:
The truth will set you free

God's truth has already set us free