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Sapasenator:
With all the "GOD" in Nigeria, has our morality index improved over the past 20 years?

Off Point na.

Why are you changing post?

If you cannot validly argue then rest na!

Sapasenator:
I know you would go there and you people never fail to amaze me. So predictable. So Who is a Christian? You?

Please calm down, don't complicate issues.

That post wasn't meant for you, the one having it fear me than you can think of so let's continue with our own conversation without referring to any religion or books!

This world is just full of confusion

DoWhatThouWilt:
How has your organisation drawn out pedophilia from pedophiles?

Is it by hiding them from law enforcement officers and fighting victims in court,

even going as far as pleading with the court not to make the case available to the public, so that people, most especially you its dull gullible brainwashed slaves, dont get to know anything about it?

Who told you i don't know about the sinful nature of imperfect humans?

Ọmọ we are working on their sinful nature and it's a gradual process not automatic but one fine quality that neither your Islam nor any other religion could achieve is removing hatred against their fellow humans from their hearts.
Note that the news regarding pedophilia occur in places where such deeds are common among their people how many of such have you found here in Nigeria?
That's to show you that in each geographical locations there is a certain sinful nature common and such will not disappear because we preached to them!

Busybrain2233:
At the emboldened, you might be referring to the observable universe.

How do you know God was ever present and how do I verify your claim?

No, The big bang was not a theory only for the observable universe, so far all evidences goes against the eternality of the universe.
It is part of what what what God is. I laugh when people ask "who created God" it is like asking why is rectangle not circular?

How do you for sure know that there's no being higher than God?

The people who made that definition how did they come to realise all that about God? Or did they go back in time to check if God actually existed as an eternal being?

Is it possible for something/someone/deity to exist without no cause? Please state your reasons clearly? And if yes, what could have triggered/caused that to happen?

Quoting a passage in the bible to make a point to me isn't wise, why should I take what it says serious?

You question " is there being greater than God" is like asking is there a number greater than infinity or is there a time greater than eternity? You also ask is there a colour whiter than white?
If there is being greater than God or if God was created then God wouldn't be God.

God by basic definition is eternal, uncreated, spaceless, uncaused cause of all creation and of course absolute power.

Since God is not part of space-time then logically you don't expect God to be proven with the scientific method the way material things are proven rather God reveals himself.

MaxInDHouse:
Note that the news regarding pedophilia occur in places where such deeds are common among their people how many of such have you found here in Nigeria?

When your organisation pointed fingers at the Catholic church for having molesters that molested children (young boys) did you wait untill a case was found in Nigeria before you believed them? You must be a very dull person to type the above sentence.

MaxInDHouse:
i'm just laughing over your case because there has never been a time when worshipers of God don't have sinners in their midst.

It is one thing to have sinners in your midst and expose them or acknowledge that they exist.

But hiding them, lying that they dont exist and fighting tooth and nail to makes sure the public doesn't know is completely different and that is what you and your organisation do on a daily basis.

I dont expect you to care though, but people out there should know this dirty things about your organisation before joining, dont you think so?

StillDtruth:
Simple common sense and natural observation. 😆😆😆

You and i and our parents did not make ourselves nor can any human make themselves exactly how our mannequins did not make themselves and could not make themselves.

Exactly how God could not have made himself.

DoWhatThouWilt:
When your organisation pointed fingers at the Catholic church for having molesters that molested children (young boys) did you wait untill a case was found in Nigeria before you believed them? You must be a very dull person to type the above sentence.





It is one thing to have sinners in your midst and expose them or acknowledge that they exist.

But hiding them, lying that they dont exist and fighting tooth and nail to makes sure the public doesn't know is completely different and that is what you and your organisation do on a daily basis.

I dont expect you to care though, but people out there should know this dirty things about your organisation before joining, dont you think so?

wow!!

DoWhatThouWilt:
When your organisation pointed fingers at the Catholic church for having molesters that molested children (young boys) did you wait untill a case was found in Nigeria before you believed them? You must be a very dull person to type the above sentence.

What you failed to know is that Catholics don't have a family of faith rather they are politically divided so when anything happens in their midst it often escalates to WARS which will affect both members of their religion and others who aren't Catholics.
But within JWs there is one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers so nothing can cause a conflict that will lead us into killing anyone talkless our fellow believers.
Ọmọ that's the big difference.

DoWhatThouWilt:
It is one thing to have sinners in your midst and expose them or acknowledge that they exist.
But hiding them, lying that they dont exist and fighting tooth and nail to makes sure the public doesn't know is completely different and that is what you and your organisation do on a daily basis.
I dont expect you to care though, but people out there should know this dirty things about your organisation before joining, dont you think so?

Do you know the reason why reports are made to the authorities whenever something goes wrong?
Well it's when a family can't manage it take for instance if your own son should steal your own money would you report the child to EFCC?
But if it's one of your workers in fact you will first of all beat the hell out of his head, hand him over to the police and sack him never to allow him anywhere close to your money.
Will you treat your own child the same way?

Ọmọ in Nigerian when a criminal is cut he will not be taken to England or America for them to punish him rather the case will be handled within Nigeria. Back in the days of Israel they don't take cases of their children to pagans no matter what the child does within the family it's left for the pagans to deal with him when he commits a crime against them but within the family ọmọ they will handle the case within!
That's what REAL faith means.
For your information that's why in Catholics and Islam you people failed to settle matters within your faith instead you raise weapons against yourself then both the sinner and those who never knew anything about the case you people will slaughter!

Kingsempires:
wow!!

Na this thing make me runaway for jw.the way they criticise christian especially catholic.if catholic was a human,jws for don kill am tete!!!

Kingsempires:
Na this thing make me runaway for jw.the way they criticise christian especially catholic.if catholic was a human,jws for don kill am tete!!!

Mumu Churchian quoting himself.

Do you think the Muslim see you as a living person?
Wait until their religion orders them to kill kafri you're a dead meat in their hands!

Maxinhouse if you hate CATHOLIC that is your own business.theThread is not about criticise christian or muslim is about atheism

MaxInDHouse:
Mumu Churchian quoting himself.

Do you think the Muslim see you as a living person?
Wait until their religion orders them to kill kafri you're a dead meat in their hands!

that is why people sees your organisation as a false organisation so i am mumu because i left jw.the way you hate catholic and islam is also the way i dislike JW

StillDtruth:
Fallacy/Objection!

Presumptive Question.
Must He be created?

Fallacy/Objection!

Presumptive Question.
Must the universe be created?

MaxInDHouse:
Who is Constantine?
Is he a disciple of Christ?

You people don't reason, instead of verifying what disciples of Christ supposed to be doing as their assigned duty you just feel whenever anyone claims CHRISTIAN it's to be taken.

For your information a Christian is one of the disciples of the Jewish man called Jesus of Nazareth who claims to be the Christ.

So whoever is not following the footsteps of Christ's disciples is not one of the CHRISTIANS!

Actually Constantine made modern christianity and your group emanated from modern Christiendom. So yes u guys were made from Constantine, whoever he was

Steep:
when did I say everything must be created?

You made this comment

The evidences of God are all around us. There is no creation without a creator , no morality without a moral law giver.
If God does not exist then we are just mindless atoms vibrating and moving randomly.
Without God there would be no creation.
Without God no morality, morality becomes mere opinions and the strong and mighty wins.
Secularism and humanism are failing badly because God can never be eliminated. What happens is that people just replaced God with a false god either Government, society, family, themselves, career, sports etc

Steep:
except that evidences do not agree with you.
Earlier scientist had thought the universe was eternal and proposed different theories that support the eternality of the universe until their hopes were shattered recently by the hubbles telescope they found that the universe is expanding and also discovered the cosmic micro wave background.

The universe cannot be eternal because the universe would have experienced heat death in eternity past and we would not have existed.

Guess what you believe there is something called eternity which no one can explain, science can't explain it.

As studies are getting advanced they are starting to see that the universe is more complex than they had thought.

Lets assume the scientists were wrong here(though they arent), how does this post suggest god exists and most importantly your own favorite brand of god exists? Remember there are thousands of gods

Kingsempires:
This world is so mysterious that you can understand it.(1)if you go through the bible you will see that all human came for one man and woman.the age of the world through the bible is about 6000 years.but according to scientist the world is about 4.5 billion years,they will even shall you evidence of human evolution.like if you are a scientist when you are studying more,you will be seeing things that will make you to say God don't exist.as from me i believe that God exist,you can't use your physical sense to check if God exist.it is not by force that God will show his self to me.blessed are those who did not see but believe.don't use the nature of the earth and thick that God is just a folk tale.the is no proof that the is God but there are evidence that the is God.your are looking for proof not evidence,90% of things in the world can not give you prove but evidence.can't you see how people perform miracles and magics,that is the evidence that the is God and the is satan.don't just give up your faith

There is no evidence supernatural thus those magics/miracles are fake. thus no god

Steep:
all current evidences show that the universe had a beginning so the universe can not be said to have had an inifinity past.
God did not pop out of nothing, he is ever present from all eternity to eternity.
There is nothing like a being higher than God, just like saying asking if there is a square circle.

The very definition of God denotes finality, there is nothing greater than him neither can be, he is the cause of all there is while he himself has no cause.

Revelation 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

At least there is evidwnceof a universe. Where is evidence of this god?

Sapasenator:
We share a lot in common. I have a deeply religious background and after a deep introspection, I realized nothing in the Bible and religion makes any sense. I won't call myself an atheist at this time just that organized religion is dead for me. I have witnessed EVIL and the supernatural growing and I cannot deny the existence of evil.

If evil exists, there must be a greater good out there somewhere and I am still making my findings. At some point, I even prayed for and received what I would term " miracles". I will attend a church in the future to socialize but I will never go near any Pentecostal church.

How did you witness evil

DoWhatThouWilt:
Definitely not one that habors pedophiles and child abusers.

He'll say they are all lies

MaxInDHouse:
As you're a Muslim i'm just laughing over your case because there has never been a time when worshipers of God don't have sinners in their midst but one thing makes them unique:

They are fulfilling what God promised!

So i have all the evidences that JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES are fulfilling what God promised in this time of the end despite having sinners in their midst {Matthew 9:13} and what they've achieved Islam can never ever achieve a quarter in a million years from now.

Are you willing to know their achievements?

I was in Islam when i began noticing the fine WORKS of God's organization despite the fact that their members are imperfect humans!

But u said they were all lies

Kingsempires:
that is why people sees your organisation as a false organisation so i am mumu because i left jw.the way you hate catholic and islam is also the way i dislike JW

Wetin Musa no go see for gate?

You self wan tok say you be former JW?

Who baptized an idiot like you?

StillDtruth:
Simple common sense and natural observation. 😆😆😆

You and i and our parents did not make ourselves nor can any human make themselves exactly how our mannequins did not make themselves and could not make themselves.

So it wasn't your parents that made u?

StillDtruth:
You are talking nonsense. All the bad shit happening are happenning because when God was ruling and it was good, you people told God to go away and leave you alone; that you can rule yourselves.

And God finally answered that prayer.

So, now it is bad you are now looking for Him.

So why do u pray?

jaephoenix:
Actually Constantine made modern christianity and your group emanated from modern Christiendom. So yes u guys were made from Constantine, whoever he was

Calm your nerves and learn!

Constantine hijacked the group that apostates formed by the time Constantine walked the earth Christianity has disappeared completely!

jaephoenix:
But u said they were all lies

Have you seen it happening here?
If it's not happening here you can't accuse JWs here of what isn't happening here!

MaxInDHouse:
Wetin Musa no go see for gate?

You self wan tok say you be former JW?

Who baptized an idiot like you?

Na JohnW the Baptist

MaxInDHouse:
Wetin Musa no go see for gate?

You self wan tok say you be former JW?

Who baptized an idiot like you?

This is why most people on nairaland sees you as a mad man.the way you hate People criticising your religion is the way people hate when someone criticising their religion.so stop being a fool,i know it pains you when people live your so called JW ORGANISATION.

MaxInDHouse:
Calm your nerves and learn!

Constantine hijacked the group that apostates formed by the time Constantine walked the earth Christianity has disappeared completely!

You are talking about constantine,his he not better than you.in roman empire christianity was illegal.he was the one that made christianity the biggest religion in roman empire.so you tell me how many people you have deceived with your JW DOCTRICES?

Kingsempires:
You are talking about constantine,his he not better than you.in roman empire christianity was illegal.he was the one that made christianity the biggest religion in roman empire.so you tell me how many people you have deceived with your JW DOCTRICES?

Kingsempires:
This is why most people on nairaland sees you as a mad man.the way you hate People criticising your religion is the way people hate when someone criticising their religion.so stop being a fool,i know it pains you when people live your so called JW ORGANISATION.

Responding to this idiot is a waste of time so it is over!

MaxInDHouse:
Responding to this idiot is a waste of time so it is over!

Thank God you know that you are a fool that is why you are quoting me