₦airaland Forum

Horus:
The Number one problem in Nigeria is corruption. Public funds that should be allocated for infrastructures end up in someone pocket

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ImmaculateJOE:
Take your campaign to Twitter.

I will be more appreciative if you can tag our Eastern governments.
I care less about the remaining 95%.

Thank you so much for the topic.

No worries, brother. Thanks.

mrvitalis:
Those people in that road pay 50% of their income as tax

Would u be ready to pay 50% of your total income to have such roads?

Or you continue the tax u pay now and manage the road u get?

I live in the US with roads like this. No one pays 50% of their income on tax. Not even half of 50%.

thewinning101:
Same question Ive been asking.

Why will a normal human being build a road and leave the gutter open to fill up within a year and overflow with sand which will start damaging the road right away?

Why keep the gutter open? So that people can sample smell of sewage water?

Honestly I don't get it.

And the sad thing is that all these leaders travel abroad every day, and they don't see any open gutters there.

Yet they come back here and build this garbage. It's pathetic.

mrvitalis:
Bros if u gather all the roads in Rwanda add them to Lagos... U won't see a dam difference that's one

Drainage system is the most difficult thing in road construction especially in places like Lagos and South South even Abia too

The cost of one road in Lagos or bayelsa would do 20 in Abuja or Rwanda

Talk about what u know

I remember when I visited a City my friends where like "you are an expert in fluid mechanics.. How do we solve the flooded road " I looked at it once I told them the solution to this flood would be in a different LGA... They thought I was crazy... 7 years later JB did it and the drainage passed 4 LGA to fix a small flooded road

Drainage system is complex and people like u would prefer 15 roads with open gutter to 1 road with proper drainage

''The cost of one road in Lagos or bayelsa would do 20 in Abuja or Rwanda''

Really?

Can anyone confirm this guy's claim?

mrvitalis:
Those people in that road pay 50% of their income as tax

Would u be ready to pay 50% of your total income to have such roads?

Or you continue the tax u pay now and manage the road u get?

I beg to differ.

I don’t know you brother, and I’d almost never quote anyone on here, but I’ve noticed you’ve got a penchant for using exorbitant indices to support your claims for the reasons why good infrastructure cannot working in Nigeria.

I noticed how you supported a misconceived notion that it was impossible to achieve 24 hours electricity without people paying through their noses and this was the situation world over.

But I’ll call you out on that lie

Most European citizens pay around 12% of their net earnings for energy electricity + gas in winter. Now this is high mostly because they’re energy dependent and not producing countries.
Do Nigerians pay 12% of the minimum wage for energy. 30,000 X 0.12 = 3,600 for 24 hours electricity only.

To the topic at hand, urban development is not fully dependent upon taxes, but a willingness for authorities to maintain standards. How is it that Nigeria of the 70’s and 80’s had these western amenities unlike today?

Cost of government got expensive and infrastructure received less attention.

Kushites:
When these useless entities we call state governors build their roads, it looks nothing like this picture below.

This is the standard way you build a road in any metropolitan area.

There is the road for driving, and then there is a sidewalk for pedestrians.

Then below the sidewalk is the drainage.

The sidewalk hits the wall so it blocks out all sand, meaning the road is SEALED. You don't even need to sweep it.

The drains are covered, so no need for ''ENVIRONMENTAL DAY'', with citizens digging out MUCK from filthy open gutters.

NOW HERE IS THE QUESTION:

What is so hard about building our roads like this??

I LAUGH when I hear Nigerians talking about attracting TOURISTS to the country.

In fact some of you should be stand-up comedians.

NO TOURIST goes to a place where the roads are not built like this road below.

TOURISTS do not travel to a place in order to ride around in cars.

They are there to WALK.

And WALKING is not supposed to be 'SUFFERING' as we regard it here.

It's meant to be enjoyable. PEDESTRIANS are also TAXPAYERS and deserve their own road infrastructure, along with drivers.

Do you know that when you build roads with wide sidewalks, you can walk up to 10 kilometres and not feel it?

But with these useless roads we build with no designated walking space, you can't walk up to 1 kilometre without looking for okada or taxi.

That's why everyone is so desperate to own a car.

How many gutters will you jump?

When will these so-called state governors finally become CIVILISED like their counterparts all over the world?

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Cos they don't want the people to stop praying but to keep binding and casting demons that are not in existence instead of dealing with the political demons in government houses

Constructing roads with closed drainage is possible in Nigeria-and it's done in some major roads across most states. However, the problem lies in how well it fares. The gutters get blocked by plastic waste and when it rains the storm water flows on the road instead of the drains. You'll see a lot of this when you visit big cities like Kano. For closed drains to work well in Nigeria, the usage of plastic packs must be heavily regulated just like it is done in Rwanda.

budaatum:
mrvitalis does make a point.

In UK, Fuel duty is currently levied at a flat rate of 52.95p per litre for both petrol and diesel. 20% VAT is then charged on both the duty and the standard price while Nigeria subsidises.

Unleaded is £144.76p. Enough to make one protest if charged in Nigeria. Road tax is £190 per annum.

Nigerians were pay that amount before it was just inflation. Nigeria will gladly pay that amount if 1naria go back to 1 USD.

Inflation is the problem. Pushing Nigerians into poverty. Before APC van in how much was the exchange rate?

In the 70 to 80 nothing like subsidy. It was introduced after inflation. Bihari remove subsidy more than twice but inflation brought it back. Tinubu remove subsidy but inflation brought it back.

Kushites:
South Africa has no open gutters.

The difference between Nigeria and Rwanda/Kenya is that when they build new roads, they build them the right way.

In Nigeria, apart from Abuja, Lagos and Akwa Ibom, the NEW roads in other states are still built with open drains for the most part, and not a thought for where pedestrians will walk!

It's like they're determined to remain backward.

so is the open drainage your problem now? If so I will let the government know that open drainage is ur problem.. Next please

mrvitalis:
Those people in that road pay 50% of their income as tax

Would u be ready to pay 50% of your total income to have such roads?

Or you continue the tax u pay now and manage the road u get?

Tax is the reason for poor road design? See people I dey share country with.

budaatum:
mrvitalis does make a point.

In UK, Fuel duty is currently levied at a flat rate of 52.95p per litre for both petrol and diesel. 20% VAT is then charged on both the duty and the standard price while Nigeria subsidises.

Unleaded is £144.76p. Enough to make one protest if charged in Nigeria. Road tax is £190 per annum.

We look at the price purchasing parity when looking at tax.
What's 190 pounds tax to a car user in a year. That's around 16 pounds / month. That's not heavy.
Driving in the UK is for convenience, UK has a very efficient public transport system.
So if you want the convenience, you should be able to buy the fuel.

mrvitalis:
Those people in that road pay 50% of their income as tax

Would u be ready to pay 50% of your total income to have such roads?

Or you continue the tax u pay now and manage the road u get?

foolish talk

mrvitalis:
Those people in that road pay 50% of their income as tax

Would u be ready to pay 50% of your total income to have such roads?

Or you continue the tax u pay now and manage the road u get?

The funds for healthy paychecks and funds swallowed by snakes could be used to achieve something far better

mrvitalis:
Those people in that road pay 50% of their income as tax

Would u be ready to pay 50% of your total income to have such roads?

Or you continue the tax u pay now and manage the road u get?

Liar,nowhere In the world do you pay 50% of your income as taxes........there's even a cap for high earners as well. Oya, the 15%-20% they're collecting, show us what they've done with it 😠😠😠

youngrichnigga:
Liar,nowhere In the world do you pay 50% of your income as taxes........there's even a cap for high earners as well. Oya, the 15%-20% they're collecting, show us what they've done with it 😠😠😠

Can you Google stop disgracing yourself

mrvitalis:
Can you Google stop disgracing yourself

You Google and post here since your brain's full of 🌽🌽🌽🌽

Corruption not taxes is the reason. Corruption is the reason why we cannot build such roads, the same Corruption is why there is no functioning refinery, why there is no 24hr electricity, pipe born water etc.

mrvitalis:
Those people in that road pay 50% of their income as tax

Would u be ready to pay 50% of your total income to have such roads?

Or you continue the tax u pay now and manage the road u get?

Tell me those ppl that pay 50% of their income as tax? Mention them here

Baxilexi:
I beg to differ.

I don’t know you brother, and I’d almost never quote anyone on here, but I’ve noticed you’ve got a penchant for using exorbitant indices to support your claims for the reasons why good infrastructure cannot working in Nigeria.

I noticed how you supported a misconceived notion that it was impossible to achieve 24 hours electricity without people paying through their noses and this was the situation world over.

But I’ll call you out on that lie

Most European citizens pay around 12% of their net earnings for energy electricity + gas in winter. Now this is high mostly because they’re energy dependent and not producing countries.
Do Nigerians pay 12% of the minimum wage for energy. 30,000 X 0.12 = 3,600 for 24 hours electricity only.

To the topic at hand, urban development is not fully dependent upon taxes, but a willingness for authorities to maintain standards. How is it that Nigeria of the 70’s and 80’s had these western amenities unlike today?

Cost of government got expensive and infrastructure received less attention.

Just that electricity is like car or phone... It's production cost is fixed

Reason I said Nigerians are too poor to have 24 hours light
. Focus should be on growing Nigerians wealth till we can have a GDP per capita if minimum 10k dollars

Zihno:
I live in the US with roads like this. No one pays 50% of their income on tax. Not even half of 50%.

How much tax would u pay if u earn 1 million dollars in California

Gerrard59:
A drainage system is not a complex thing. Other people have done it. Invite them, pay them and it will be done. The issue is that Nigeria is not highly economically productive relative to its land mass and population to embark on such long-term projects. Nigerian politicians, just as most Nigerians, think in the short-term rather than long-term. Akpabio was said to have constructed the drainage system in the state or Uyo at least, but the IBB Way road leading to the state secretariat was impassable once rain fell. It took Udom more than four years to initiate the actual reconstruction of the road in his second term. Whether there exist open gutters, I don't know. I think the government even had to ask World Bank for funds, for an oil-rich state o.

Same uyo that 2 land floods? ... It was udom that did the construction of a drainage system for one road

The issue with drainage is u can't do for one street

The drainage system for one road might take works in 5 LGAs

Smartcitizen:
Those people you are talking about doesn't have the abundant natural resources that we have here.

Nigeria and aboundet resources lmao

Nigeria don't have any resources abundant relative to our population

Gerrard59:
Not entirely the basis for having such poorly constructed roads. If so, why are there no such similar well-constructed roads in oil-rich states?

While I do agree that the economy has to grow so public authorities have enough funds to embark on such projects, the existence of states with huge oil windfalls or those with a low population base compared to how much they receive as allocation refutes that notion.

Which state in nigeria makes 500 million dollars from oil

Name one every time we won't hear world with oil rich

A state with a population if 3 million to 8 million making less than 200 million dollars is what u call oil rich?

Lmao

mrvitalis:
Nigeria and aboundet resources lmao

Nigeria don't have any resources abundant relative to our population

We have more than those people building those good roads.

Smartcitizen:
We have more than those people building those good roads.

Lmaooo? U have resources more than UK?.

Oga your oil wealth is less than 15 billion dollars that's less than tax revenue if Manchester UK

mrvitalis:
Same uyo that 2 land floods? ... It was udom that did the construction of a drainage system for one road

The issue with drainage is u can't do for one street. The drainage system for one road might take works in 5 LGAs

Akpabio said he did a drainage system. I don't know who to believe.

But is it not possible to construct a state or city-wide drainage system or say Lagos does something like the Dutch did?

mrvitalis:
Lmaooo? U have resources more than UK?.

Oga your oil wealth is less than 15 billion dollars that's less than tax revenue if Manchester UK

And what have you been doing with the oil wells?


Stealing from it abi? Than using it to build good roads?

Continue looking for the size of oils in Saudi.

nedu666:
Corruption not taxes is the reason. Corruption is the reason why we cannot build such roads, the same Corruption is why there is no functioning refinery, why there is no 24hr electricity, pipe born water etc.

Corruption is everywhere. There is no corrupt-free society. As Mrvitalis stated, it is our unproductive state - Nigeria is not wealthy enough to embark on certain projects. The focus should be on generating wealth, and capitalism, not the crony type, is the answer.

Gerrard59:
Corruption is everywhere. There is no corrupt-free society. As Mrvitalis stated, it is our unproductive state - Nigeria is not wealthy enough to embark on certain projects. The focus should be on generating wealth, and capitalism, not the crony type, is the answer.

Is corruption significantly worse and widespread in African countries than other countries

anonimi:
Is corruption significantly worse and widespread in African countries than other countries

Because Africa Nations depend mostly on resources extraction n recipes for corruption

Read up Norway disease

Smartcitizen:
And what have you been doing with the oil wells?


Stealing from it abi? Than using it to build good roads?

Continue looking for the size of oils in Saudi.

Pay salary with the majority of it
Them run the government
Provide subsidy for u in petrol, electricity
Certain drugs
Cheaper hospital
Cheap universities