₦airaland Forum

erico2k2:
No they are not growing,infact there is a clamp down on their means of generating revenues, The pastors now have to get a real Job not just pastor

Zionmdde:
I just hope everybody will learn to mind their business
Nobody is being deceived. His members know exactly what they are doing and even social media will not sway them. A lot of times people tend to stick where they can get hope. Because minus that hope that pastors and prophets give (fake or original) a lot of persons would have been dead by now.

He should be allowed to sell his goods in peace. Let those that buy it decide for themselves if it works or not. Afterall he is not putting gun to anybody head to buy

Keep quoting me. I am very unapologetic on what I said. Those adults in his church choose to be there and consume his products. In the eyes of the law you can't also prove the originality of anything termed "spiritual ". Because you can't also prove that you have fulfilled the terms of engagement

So in simple terms you can't cry more than the bereaved. If people feel happy going there let them continue.

Zionmdde:
↪Oga who are the authors of this your Bible that according to you every action should be evaluated in the lens of

Kobojunkieee:
2. It does not matter whether there are such arguments or not. Their names or any assumed ideas you may have meant absolutely nothing to this conversation.

ceejay80s:
I only read quarter and it's trash

Zionmdde:
Lol
Hearsay as usual
So you attend the church to know they are not expanding worldwide. Na wa oooo. People sef. So pst Chris told u he asked his pastors to get jobs

erico2k2:
No boss I actually live in the Uk and it was in the news. If you go to most churches of other denomination the pastors have jobs, in the bible most of the disciples have jobs

Zionmdde:
Actually most of the disciples left their jobs
You can be in the UK, why don't you attend their church so you can be sure they are not growing
Asides that it's still hearsay

erico2k2:
plz point me to where it was stated that Peter stopped being a fisherman

Zionmdde:
Chiwawa is barking
Hungry chiwawa for that matter.

Quest7777:
Lets get this clear:

-Prophet Fufeyin manufactures soap,
-sends the soap to NAFDAC for certification,
-NAFDAC certifies the soap based on the listed ingredients, that it is OK for use by Nigerians,
-Fufeyin prays over the soap and presumably impacts healing powers into the soap,
-Fufeyin puts up the soap for sale,
-Nigerians who believe Fufeyin has impacted healing powers into the soap buy the soap.

-VDM calls out Fufeyin as a Scammer
-Fufeyin sues him to court for spoiling business for him, restraining him from further speaking against the miracle soap.

My opinion:
*Nafdac only certified the soap as ordinary soap not as miracle soap so Nafdac has nothing to answer

*Court can not convict Fufeyin as a Scammer. I have never seen any pastor jailed on account of failed religious belief or prophecy.
Also it will mean all these pastors who sell Olive Oil as Anointing Oil would have been convicted.

*VDM should be careful. He stands the risk of being convicted for Defamation, cyberbullying or some other criminal charges.

*I'm not in any way justifying Fufeyin. I'm only looking at the legal perspective.

Zionmdde:
What is fraud?
1. A lawyer won't call what most of these pastors do as fraud because there are critical elements that must be present before something is called a fraud

2. If you also delve deep into psychology you will know why a person wrongly diagnosed of cancer will start withering away faster than a person who has cancer but was told he doesn't
3. Am saying that to say this, if 200 people use that soap, at least 5 people will likely come back with testimonies because of number 2

Until the law classifies the Bible as fraud, what the pastors do cannot be called fraud. Ask any lawyer and get their response. Calling a pastor a fraud can land you in jail

Zionmdde:
I just hope everybody will learn to mind their business
Nobody is being deceived. His members know exactly what they are doing and even social media will not sway them. A lot of times people tend to stick where they can get hope. Because minus that hope that pastors and prophets give (fake or original) a lot of persons would have been dead by now.

He should be allowed to sell his goods in peace. Let those that buy it decide for themselves if it works or not. Afterall he is not putting gun to anybody head to buy

Keep quoting me. I am very unapologetic on what I said. Those adults in his church choose to be there and consume his products. In the eyes of the law you can't also prove the originality of anything termed "spiritual ". Because you can't also prove that you have fulfilled the terms of engagement

So in simple terms you can't cry more than the bereaved. If people feel happy going there let them continue.

Zionmdde:

Can you prove objectively that I support scamming

Am only saying let people do what makes them happy. If they leave that church and come to you with their problems, will you give them the hope Jeremiah gives them
Will you pro

GreatOchuks:
The Pastor , Omotor Jeremiah Fufeyin is a Fraud , do your worst or call that your holy spirit.

vanitybutiwanti:
lowlife Bleep off

Zionmdde:
I just hope everybody will learn to mind their business
Nobody is being deceived. His members know exactly what they are doing and even social media will not sway them. A lot of times people tend to stick where they can get hope. Because minus that hope that pastors and prophets give (fake or original) a lot of persons would have been dead by now.

He should be allowed to sell his goods in peace. Let those that buy it decide for themselves if it works or not. Afterall he is not putting gun to anybody head to buy

Keep quoting me. I am very unapologetic on what I said. Those adults in his church choose to be there and consume his products. In the eyes of the law you can't also prove the originality of anything termed "spiritual ". Because you can't also prove that you have fulfilled the terms of engagement

So in simple terms you can't cry more than the bereaved. If people feel happy going there let them continue.

Offpoint1:
Following this your logic, we should allow internet romance scam to continue since the yahoo guy aren't forcing their victim to send them money.

Truthissupreme:
my bro these guys are from the pit of hell both the Jeremiah and vdm

Their are some they give power to come display like Jeremiah, they are others they give social media

The game is to make Jeremiah look like he is representing christians and vdm the new reality whereas Jeremiah doesn't represent Christianity

Then vdm obviously wins rationally and shallow christians will say why are we even going to church sef

Zionmdde:
I just hope everybody will learn to mind their business
Nobody is being deceived. His members know exactly what they are doing and even social media will not sway them. A lot of times people tend to stick where they can get hope. Because minus that hope that pastors and prophets give (fake or original) a lot of persons would have been dead by now.

He should be allowed to sell his goods in peace. Let those that buy it decide for themselves if it works or not. Afterall he is not putting gun to anybody head to buy

Keep quoting me. I am very unapologetic on what I said. Those adults in his church choose to be there and consume his products. In the eyes of the law you can't also prove the originality of anything termed "spiritual ". Because you can't also prove that you have fulfilled the terms of engagement

So in simple terms you can't cry more than the bereaved. If people feel happy going there let them continue.

Zionmdde:
Still barking like a bitch
Hungry chiwawa.

GreatOchuks:
You should focus on whatever is putting food on your table and leave Legal Perspective for those who studied or know Law ipso facto ....

You think it's just to rush to Court shouting Defamation, can he prove the Ingredients and also disprove the defence of Justification

Quest7777:
Lets get this clear:

-Prophet Fufeyin manufactures soap,
-sends the soap to NAFDAC for certification,
-NAFDAC certifies the soap based on the listed ingredients, that it is OK for use by Nigerians,
-Fufeyin prays over the soap and presumably impacts healing powers into the soap,
-Fufeyin puts up the soap for sale,
-Nigerians who believe Fufeyin has impacted healing powers into the soap buy the soap.

-VDM calls out Fufeyin as a Scammer
-Fufeyin sues him to court for spoiling business for him, restraining him from further speaking against the miracle soap.

My opinion:
*Nafdac only certified the soap as ordinary soap not as miracle soap so Nafdac has nothing to answer

*Court can not convict Fufeyin as a Scammer. I have never seen any pastor jailed on account of failed religious belief or prophecy.
Also it will mean all these pastors who sell Olive Oil as Anointing Oil would have been convicted.

*VDM should be careful. He stands the risk of being convicted for Defamation, cyberbullying or some other criminal charges.

*I'm not in any way justifying Fufeyin. I'm only looking at the legal perspective.

Omenapounds:
Seun if you don't do anything about this paid agents of Tinubu who are going about insulting and attacking everybody who has a different opinion from theirs, a time will come when every thread created on Nairaland will not go beyond one page, cus the sane ones among your members will no longer want to make any post only to be insulted by people collecting less than 10,% of our weekly income per month.

Zionmdde:
A white cloth viewed with a green lens will appear green. Your brains might need some attention

rilKurlinz:
I no sure say U understand wetin da happen VDM and Pst Jeremiah.

Both da water Nd soap (with other commodity ) doesn't have a NAFDAC number at all.

adelafe2019:
Many people don't know that NAFDAC job is just to test any product to ensure that it is not harmful to man when used. Its ability to cure any disease I'is not NAFDAC 's responsibility.

Quest7777:
Lets get this clear:

-Prophet Fufeyin manufactures soap,
-sends the soap to NAFDAC for certification,
-NAFDAC certifies the soap based on the listed ingredients, that it is OK for use by Nigerians,
-Fufeyin prays over the soap and presumably impacts healing powers into the soap,
-Fufeyin puts up the soap for sale,
-Nigerians who believe Fufeyin has impacted healing powers into the soap buy the soap.

-VDM calls out Fufeyin as a Scammer
-Fufeyin sues him to court for spoiling business for him, restraining him from further speaking against the miracle soap.

My opinion:
*Nafdac only certified the soap as ordinary soap not as miracle soap so Nafdac has nothing to answer

*Court can not convict Fufeyin as a Scammer. I have never seen any pastor jailed on account of failed religious belief or prophecy.
Also it will mean all these pastors who sell Olive Oil as Anointing Oil would have been convicted.

*VDM should be careful. He stands the risk of being convicted for Defamation, cyberbullying or some other criminal charges.

*I'm not in any way justifying Fufeyin. I'm only looking at the legal perspective.

Quest7777:
Lets get this clear:

-Prophet Fufeyin manufactures soap,
-sends the soap to NAFDAC for certification,
-NAFDAC certifies the soap based on the listed ingredients, that it is OK for use by Nigerians,
-Fufeyin prays over the soap and presumably impacts healing powers into the soap,
-Fufeyin puts up the soap for sale,
-Nigerians who believe Fufeyin has impacted healing powers into the soap buy the soap.

-VDM calls out Fufeyin as a Scammer
-Fufeyin sues him to court for spoiling business for him, restraining him from further speaking against the miracle soap.

My opinion:
*Nafdac only certified the soap as ordinary soap not as miracle soap so Nafdac has nothing to answer

*Court can not convict Fufeyin as a Scammer. I have never seen any pastor jailed on account of failed religious belief or prophecy.
Also it will mean all these pastors who sell Olive Oil as Anointing Oil would have been convicted.

*VDM should be careful. He stands the risk of being convicted for Defamation, cyberbullying or some other criminal charges.

*I'm not in any way justifying Fufeyin. I'm only looking at the legal perspective.