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Yes, the Bible teaches that we are all born sinners with sinful, selfish natures. Unless we are born again by the Spirit of God, we will never see the kingdom of God (John 3:3).

Humanity is totally depraved; that is, all of us have a sinful nature that affects every part of us (Isaiah 53:6; Romans 7:14). The question is, where did that sinful nature come from? Were we born sinners, or did we simply choose to become sinners sometime after birth?

We are born with a sinful nature, and we inherited it from Adam. “Sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people” (Romans 5:12). Every one of us was affected by Adam’s sin; there are no exceptions. “One trespass resulted in condemnation for all people” (verse 18). We are all sinners, and we all share the same condemnation, because we are all children of Adam.

Scripture indicates that even children have a sin nature, which argues for the fact that we are born sinners. “Folly is bound up in the heart of a child” (Proverbs 22:15). David says, “Surely I was sinful at birth, / sinful from the time my mother conceived me” (Psalm 51:5). “Even from birth the wicked go astray; / from the womb they are wayward, spreading lies” (Psalm 58:3).

Before we were saved, “we were by nature deserving of wrath” (Ephesians 2:3). Note that we deserved God’s wrath not only because of our actions but because of our nature. That nature is what we inherited from Adam.

We are born sinners, and for that reason we are unable to do good in order to please God in our natural state, or the flesh: “Those who are in the realm of the flesh cannot please God” (Romans 8:. We were dead in our sins before Christ raised us to spiritual life (Ephesians 2:1). We lack any inherent spiritual good.

No one has to teach a child to lie; rather, we must go to great lengths to impress upon children the value of telling the truth. Toddlers are naturally selfish, with their innate, although faulty, understanding that everything is “mine.” Sinful behavior comes naturally for the little ones because they are born sinners.

Because we are born sinners, we must experience a second, spiritual birth. We are born once into Adam’s family and are sinners by nature. When we are born again, we are born into God’s family and are given the nature of Christ. We praise the Lord that “to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God—children born not of natural descent . . . but born of God” (John 1:12–13).

seunowa:
Yes, the Bible teaches that we are all born sinners with sinful, selfish natures. Unless we are born again by the Spirit of God, we will never see the kingdom of God (John 3:3).

Humanity is totally depraved; that is, all of us have a sinful nature that affects every part of us (Isaiah 53:6; Romans 7:14). The question is, where did that sinful nature come from? Were we born sinners, or did we simply choose to become sinners sometime after birth?

We are born with a sinful nature, and we inherited it from Adam. “Sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, and in this way death came to all people” (Romans 5:12). Every one of us was affected by Adam’s sin; there are no exceptions. “One trespass resulted in condemnation for all people” (verse 18). We are all sinners, and we all share the same condemnation, because we are all children of Adam.

Scripture indicates that even children have a sin nature, which argues for the fact that we are born sinners. “Folly is bound up in the heart of a child” (Proverbs 22:15). David says, “Surely I was sinful at birth, / sinful from the time my mother conceived me” (Psalm 51:5). “Even from birth the wicked go astray; / from the womb they are wayward, spreading lies” (Psalm 58:3).

Before we were saved, “we were by nature deserving of wrath” (Ephesians 2:3). Note that we deserved God’s wrath not only because of our actions but because of our nature. That nature is what we inherited from Adam.

We are born sinners, and for that reason we are unable to do good in order to please God in our natural state, or the flesh: “Those who are in the realm of the flesh cannot please God” (Romans 8:. We were dead in our sins before Christ raised us to spiritual life (Ephesians 2:1). We lack any inherent spiritual good.

No one has to teach a child to lie; rather, we must go to great lengths to impress upon children the value of telling the truth. Toddlers are naturally selfish, with their innate, although faulty, understanding that everything is “mine.” Sinful behavior comes naturally for the little ones because they are born sinners.

Because we are born sinners, we must experience a second, spiritual birth. We are born once into Adam’s family and are sinners by nature. When we are born again, we are born into God’s family and are given the nature of Christ. We praise the Lord that “to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God—children born not of natural descent . . . but born of God” (John 1:12–13).

What did Jesus say is the process to become born again?

Michael547:
What did Jesus say is the process to become born again?

5 Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit.

6 Ό,τι γεννιέται από τον άνθρωπο είναι ανθρώπινο, ενώ ό,τι γεννιέται από το Πνεύμα είναι πνευματικό.

6 Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit [17] gives birth to spirit.

seunowa:
5 Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit.

6 Ό,τι γεννιέται από τον άνθρωπο είναι ανθρώπινο, ενώ ό,τι γεννιέται από το Πνεύμα είναι πνευματικό.

6 Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit [17] gives birth to spirit.

How can one be born of water and spirit?

No! We are manipulated and influence and even enslaved into believing garberish.. With the aim of indirect rule and the long awaited white king to rule the world,

Michael547:
How can one be born of water and spirit?

Ephesians 5:25-26 as a basis: 'Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her to make her holy, cleansing her by washing with the water through the word'.
The water here refers to being born again by the words of God. And how can one get that word of God?. My answer is Jesus Christ because is the living water and the spirit that humanity needs for redemption from sinful nature. Jesus Christ said the words that come from my mouth are life and spirit ( John 6:63). Therefore, anyone that is not born again by the spirit and life of Christ Jesus is a walking corpse. Humanity is totally depraved by sinful nature which in turn brought death on all people. Everyone is condemned to death but one can change this if one runs into Christ Jesus because he is the living water and the word that redeems all who are in him. Romans 8:1 says "There is no condemnation for those that are in Christ Jesus who walk no longer according to the flesh but to the spirit". This means that they are now responsible to the work of the spirit that come from the words of Jesus Christ only.

seunowa:
Ephesians 5:25-26 as a basis: 'Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her to make her holy, cleansing her by washing with the water through the word'.
The water here refers to being born again by the words of God. And how can one get that word of God?. My answer is Jesus Christ because is the living water and the spirit that humanity needs for redemption from sinful nature. Jesus Christ said the words that come from my mouth are life and spirit ( John 6:63). Therefore, anyone that is not born again by the spirit and life of Christ Jesus is a walking corpse. Humanity is totally depraved by sinful nature which in turn brought death on all people. Everyone is condemned to death but one can change this if one runs into Christ Jesus because he is the living water and the word that redeems all who are in him. Romans 8:1 says "There is no condemnation for those that are in Christ Jesus who walk no longer according to the flesh but to the spirit". This means that they are now responsible to the work of the spirit that come from the words of Jesus Christ only.

Ok....so if Jesus himself is the water and spirit that he was talking about in John chapter 3, Does a Christian still need to get baptized with literal water? If yes, what is the significance of literal water baptism?

Michael547:
Ok....so if Jesus himself is the water and spirit that he was talking about in John chapter 3, Does a Christian still need to get baptized with literal water? If yes, what is the significance of literal water baptism?

Water baptism symbolizes the believer’s total trust in and total reliance on the Lord Jesus Christ, as well as a commitment to live obediently to Him. It also expresses unity with all the saints (Ephesians 2:19), that is, with every person in every nation on earth who is a member of the Body of Christ (Galatians 3:27–28). Water baptism conveys this and more, but it is not what saves us. Instead, we are saved by grace through faith, apart from works (Ephesians 2:8–9). We are baptized because our Lord commanded it: “Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit” (Matthew 28:19)

Water baptism is a beautiful picture of what our Lord has done for us. As we are completely immersed in the water, we symbolize burial with our Lord; we are baptized into His death on the cross and are no longer slaves to self or sin (Romans 6:3–7). When we are raised out of the water, we are symbolically resurrected—raised to new life in Christ to be with Him forever, born into the family of our loving God (Romans 8:16). Water baptism also illustrates the spiritual cleansing we experience when we are saved; just as water cleanses the flesh, so the Holy Spirit cleanses our hearts when we trust Christ.
The fact that water baptism is not a prerequisite for salvation is best seen in the example of a saved man who was not baptized in water—the criminal on the cross (Luke 23:39–43). This self-confessed sinner acknowledged Jesus as his Lord while dying on a cross next to Him. The thief asked for salvation and was forgiven of his sins. Although he never experienced water baptism, at that moment he was spiritually baptized into Christ’s death, and he then was raised to eternal life by the power of Christ’s word (Hebrews 1:3).

Christians should be baptized out of obedience to and love for our Lord Jesus (John 14:15). Water baptism by immersion is the biblical method of baptism because of its symbolic representation of the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ.

seunowa:
Water baptism symbolizes the believer’s total trust in and total reliance on the Lord Jesus Christ, as well as a commitment to live obediently to Him. It also expresses unity with all the saints (Ephesians 2:19), that is, with every person in every nation on earth who is a member of the Body of Christ (Galatians 3:27–28). Water baptism conveys this and more, but it is not what saves us. Instead, we are saved by grace through faith, apart from works (Ephesians 2:8–9). We are baptized because our Lord commanded it: “Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit” (Matthew 28:19)

Water baptism is a beautiful picture of what our Lord has done for us. As we are completely immersed in the water, we symbolize burial with our Lord; we are baptized into His death on the cross and are no longer slaves to self or sin (Romans 6:3–7). When we are raised out of the water, we are symbolically resurrected—raised to new life in Christ to be with Him forever, born into the family of our loving God (Romans 8:16). Water baptism also illustrates the spiritual cleansing we experience when we are saved; just as water cleanses the flesh, so the Holy Spirit cleanses our hearts when we trust Christ.
The fact that water baptism is not a prerequisite for salvation is best seen in the example of a saved man who was not baptized in water—the criminal on the cross (Luke 23:39–43). This self-confessed sinner acknowledged Jesus as his Lord while dying on a cross next to Him. The thief asked for salvation and was forgiven of his sins. Although he never experienced water baptism, at that moment he was spiritually baptized into Christ’s death, and he then was raised to eternal life by the power of Christ’s word (Hebrews 1:3).

Christians should be baptized out of obedience to and love for our Lord Jesus (John 14:15). Water baptism by immersion is the biblical method of baptism because of its symbolic representation of the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ.

Ok......were faithful servant of God like Abraham, Jacob and David born again?

Bestbrain123:
No! We are manipulated and influence and even enslaved into believing garberish.. With the aim of indirect rule and the long awaited white king to rule the world,

See it. Your Lies and delusion proves it.

If you were God's child ,you would not be able to Lie.

Michael547:
Ok......were faithful servant of God like Abraham, Jacob and David born again?

Faithful means born again. And clearly Abraham and David were.

One can say that Jacob followed God from birth to death.

Michael547:
Ok......were faithful servant of God like Abraham, Jacob and David born again?

What is the meaning of being born again? It means put one trust and faith in the redemptive works of God which He accomplished in the death and resurrection of Christ Jesus.
Were the faithful servants of God like Adam,Abraham, David, Enoch etc born again?
Yes, they were born again because they put their trust in the redemptive works of God.
Since the fall of man, the basis of salvation has always been the death of Christ. No one, either prior to the cross or since the cross, would ever be saved without that one pivotal event in the history of the world. Christ’s death paid the penalty for past sins of Old Testament saints and future sins of New Testament saints
The requirement for salvation has always been faith. The object of one’s faith for salvation has always been God. The psalmist wrote, “Blessed are all who take refuge in him” (Psalm 2:12). Genesis 15:6 tells us that Abraham believed God and that was enough for God to credit it to him for righteousness (see also Romans 4:3-. The Old Testament sacrificial system did not take away sin, as Hebrews 10:1-10 clearly teaches. It did, however, point to the day when the Son of God would shed His blood for the sinful human race.

What has changed through the ages is the content of a believer’s faith. God’s requirement of what must be believed is based on the amount of revelation He has given mankind up to that time. This is called progressive revelation. Adam believed the promise God gave in Genesis 3:15 that the Seed of the woman would conquer Satan. Adam believed Him, demonstrated by the name he gave Eve (v. 20) and the Lord indicated His acceptance immediately by covering them with coats of skin (v. 21). At that point that is all Adam knew, but he believed it.

Abraham believed God according to the promises and new revelation God gave him in Genesis 12 and 15. Prior to Moses, no Scripture was written, but mankind was responsible for what God had revealed. Throughout the Old Testament, believers came to salvation because they believed that God would someday take care of their sin problem. Today, we look back, believing that He has already taken care of our sins on the cross (John 3:16; Hebrews 9:28).
What about believers in Christ’s day, prior to the cross and resurrection? What did they believe? Did they understand the full picture of Christ dying on a cross for their sins? Late in His ministry, “Jesus began to explain to his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things at the hands of the elders, chief priests and teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and on the third day be raised to life” (Matthew 16:21-22). What was the reaction of His disciples to this message? “Then Peter took him aside and began to rebuke him. ‘Never, Lord!’ he said. ‘This shall never happen to you!’” Peter and the other disciples did not know the full truth, yet they were saved because they believed that God would take care of their sin problem. They didn’t exactly know how He would accomplish that, any more than Adam, Abraham, Moses, or David knew how, but they believed God.

Today, we have more revelation than the people living before the resurrection of Christ; we know the full picture. “In the past God spoke to our forefathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the universe” (Hebrews 1:1-2). Our salvation is still based on the death of Christ, our faith is still the requirement for salvation, and the object of our faith is still God. Today, for us, the content of our faith is that Jesus Christ died for our sins, He was buried, and He rose the third day (1 Corinthians 15:3-4).

seunowa:
What is the meaning of being born again? It means put one trust and faith in the redemptive works of God which He accomplished in the death and resurrection of Christ Jesus.
Were the faithful servants of God like Adam,Abraham, David, Enoch etc born again?
Yes, they were born again because they put their trust in the redemptive works of God.
Since the fall of man, the basis of salvation has always been the death of Christ. No one, either prior to the cross or since the cross, would ever be saved without that one pivotal event in the history of the world. Christ’s death paid the penalty for past sins of Old Testament saints and future sins of New Testament saints
The requirement for salvation has always been faith. The object of one’s faith for salvation has always been God. The psalmist wrote, “Blessed are all who take refuge in him” (Psalm 2:12). Genesis 15:6 tells us that Abraham believed God and that was enough for God to credit it to him for righteousness (see also Romans 4:3-. The Old Testament sacrificial system did not take away sin, as Hebrews 10:1-10 clearly teaches. It did, however, point to the day when the Son of God would shed His blood for the sinful human race.

What has changed through the ages is the content of a believer’s faith. God’s requirement of what must be believed is based on the amount of revelation He has given mankind up to that time. This is called progressive revelation. Adam believed the promise God gave in Genesis 3:15 that the Seed of the woman would conquer Satan. Adam believed Him, demonstrated by the name he gave Eve (v. 20) and the Lord indicated His acceptance immediately by covering them with coats of skin (v. 21). At that point that is all Adam knew, but he believed it.

Abraham believed God according to the promises and new revelation God gave him in Genesis 12 and 15. Prior to Moses, no Scripture was written, but mankind was responsible for what God had revealed. Throughout the Old Testament, believers came to salvation because they believed that God would someday take care of their sin problem. Today, we look back, believing that He has already taken care of our sins on the cross (John 3:16; Hebrews 9:28).
What about believers in Christ’s day, prior to the cross and resurrection? What did they believe? Did they understand the full picture of Christ dying on a cross for their sins? Late in His ministry, “Jesus began to explain to his disciples that he must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things at the hands of the elders, chief priests and teachers of the law, and that he must be killed and on the third day be raised to life” (Matthew 16:21-22). What was the reaction of His disciples to this message? “Then Peter took him aside and began to rebuke him. ‘Never, Lord!’ he said. ‘This shall never happen to you!’” Peter and the other disciples did not know the full truth, yet they were saved because they believed that God would take care of their sin problem. They didn’t exactly know how He would accomplish that, any more than Adam, Abraham, Moses, or David knew how, but they believed God.

Today, we have more revelation than the people living before the resurrection of Christ; we know the full picture. “In the past God spoke to our forefathers through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the universe” (Hebrews 1:1-2). Our salvation is still based on the death of Christ, our faith is still the requirement for salvation, and the object of our faith is still God. Today, for us, the content of our faith is that Jesus Christ died for our sins, He was buried, and He rose the third day (1 Corinthians 15:3-4).

Where does the Bible teach that Abraham and David had faith in Jesus and in his death and resurrection?

You clearly stated earlier that being born again in water and spirit means that one had faith in Jesus since Jesus was the water and spirit that he referred to.

StillDtruth:
Faithful means born again. And clearly Abraham and David were.

One can say that Jacob followed God from birth to death.

Did Jesus teach that one can be born again by just being faithful? If yes, where in the bible?

Michael547:
Where does the Bible teach that Abraham and David had faith in Jesus?

They had faith in God. For God himself became a man in Jesus Christ as the of blood of animals could not erase the power of sin completely in humanity.
Those faithful servants of old testament had their hope in God and this hope was accomplished in the death and resurrection of Christ Jesus.
His blood redeems us from the curse of sins according to the riches of God's grace.

Our hope is In Christ Jesus who is God our Savior.

seunowa:
They had faith in God. For God himself became a man in Jesus Christ as the of blood of animals could not erase the power of sin completely in humanity.
Those faithful servants of old testament had their hope in God and this hope was accomplished in the death and resurrection of Christ Jesus.
His blood redeems us from the curse of sins according to the riches of God's grace.

Our hope is In Christ Jesus who is God our Savior.

Are you saying that Jesus on earth was the Almighty God whose name is Jehovah?

Michael547:
Did Jesus teach that one can be born again by just being faithful? If yes, where in the bible?

You have not read the bible, go read it first to and see if truly Jesus did not.say so. Stop looking to be spoon fed.

Michael547:
Are you saying that Jesus on earth was the Almighty God whose name is Jehovah?

Notice that Jesus calls Himself God in the book of Revelation: “He said to me [John]:
It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To him who is thirsty I will give to drink without cost from the spring of the water of life. He who overcomes will inherit all this, and I will be his God and he will be my son.

seunowa:
Notice that Jesus calls Himself God in the book of Revelation: “He said to me [John]:
It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To him who is thirsty I will give to drink without cost from the spring of the water of life. He who overcomes will inherit all this, and I will be his God and he will be my son.

Please what chapter and verse is this in Revelation?

Meanwhile, how can we reconcile Psalms 83:18 in the screenshot below with John 14:28.

StillDtruth:
You have not read the bible, go read it first to and see if truly Jesus did not.say so. Stop looking to be spoon fed.

Oga if you are not going to spoon feed me, why bother responding to my questions?

Michael547:
Oga if you are not going to spoon feed me, why bother responding to my questions?

Nairaland is not for babies Go to nursery school for spoonfeeding.

StillDtruth:
Nairaland is not for babies Go to nursery school for spoonfeeding.

Alright....thanks for attempting my question.

Michael547:
Please what chapter and verse is this in Revelation?

Meanwhile, how can we reconcile Psalms 83:18 in the screenshot below with John 14:28.

What is your understanding of who Christ Jesus is? I think I need to know

seunowa:
What is your understanding of who Christ Jesus is? I think I need to know

John 14:28 and John 3:16 answers that question.

So how can we reconcile Psalms 83:18 and John 14:28?

seunowa:
What is your understanding of who Christ Jesus is? I think I need to know

Shut up you E-diot. You want to preach Christ, but you are an unrepentant bigot filled with hatred for Igbos.

Ogun kee you and your family.