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SIRTee15:
Drop it, U now sounding like a crack cd.
U want to delve into history. Which history? Are U better than bible scholars when it comes to history. They already told U the 4th beast is Greece and I agree.
The 4th beast had 10 horns representing kings. One of the king usurp the authorities of 3 others and invaded the holy place.

This is what Anthiochus did, he killed the incumbent, made sure the heir to the throne was trapped in Rome and later killed his joint heir.
Hadrian that U are pushing had no problem becoming emperor and had nobody challenged him to the throne.
He wasn't even among the first 10 emperors of Rome, he was number 15.

Daniel also said in the next chapter that the goat who desecrated the holy temple had ten horns and the atrocity was committed by the 4th one.
He called the goat greek empire. What more evidence do U want?
The great horn on the 4th beast couldn't have been talking about Hadrian. Titus even fit the picture better- he destroyed the temple, sacked Jews and called himself Messiah. But the problem is he did all those as a General and not Emperor.

This case is done and dusted. Argue with bible scholars who are natural historians.
Let me bust your next lie...
The prophet Moses spoke about.

The prophecy is not even about Hadrian. I only gave you Hadrian as an example of Roman emperor that desecrated the temple mount.

The real deal is Constantine with his blasphemous mouth he used to chant "homoousios" at the council of Nicea.

Qasim6:
The prophecy is not even about Hadrian. I only gave you Hadrian as an example of Roman emperor that desecrated the temple mount.

The real deal is Constantine with his blasphemous mouth he used to chant "homoousios" at the council of Nicea.

So who is the horn who desecrated the holy temple? He was mentioned 2ce.
Knowing him gives to cue to the prophecy.
He must be relevent to have been mentioned 2ce.

Qasim6:
The prophecy is not even about Hadrian. I only gave you Hadrian as an example of Roman emperor that desecrated the temple mount.

The real deal is Constantine with his blasphemous mouth he used to chant "homoousios" at the council of Nicea.

Wetin concern me with Constantine. He can shout whatever he likes, not my business.

Instead I will show U trinity in the bible and would prove it to U that ancient Jews also believed in trinity.
I will bring the evidence, he go shock U.
Ancient Jews used to read about trinity from their scriptures in the synagogue.
Challenge me and I go shock U.
In fact challenge me on any of Christian belief and I will bring evidence ancient Jews also believed in the doctrine.

I can even show U evidence that the ancient Jews believed someone was going to die and reassurect on the 3rd day in their scriptures.

That's why Paul quoted the verse in 1 Corinthians 15

3 For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures

Challenge me on this verse and I will bring evidence ancient Jews believed the scripture mentioned someone will die and resurrect on the 3rd day.

EVERY SINGLE ONE OF OUR BELIEFS CAN BE TRACED TO THE PREVIOUS SCRIPTURES.

UNLIKE ISLAM THAT CANT BE TRACED TO ANY ABRAHAMIC FAITH DOCTRINE.
ISLAM IS PAGANISM, BOWING TO A STONE IS NOTHING BUT PAGAN PRACTICE COPIED FROM NEAR EAST ANCIENT IDOLATERS.

THAT'S WHY GOD HATE IT AND FORBID BOWING DOWN TO STONES.

Deut 16
22 and do not erect a sacred stone, for these the Lord your God hates.

Leviticus 26
Do not make idols or set up an image or a sacred stone for yourselves, and do not place a sacred stone in your land to bow down before it. I am the LORD your God.

Qasim will soon come here and say above verses cannot be trusted...
Bunch of jokers....

So since Qasim won't take up the challenge, let's close the case and move to another topic.
Summary
We have been able to prove without any iota of doubt that
Ancient Judaism believed in the divine Messiah.
Ancient Jews believed a Messiah is coming who will die for their sin according to Isaiah 53. They call him the redeemer.
Daniel 7 and 8 is reference to Greece and desecration perpetrated by Anthiochus Epiphanes.

Thank u

SIRTee15:
So since Qasim won't take up the challenge, let's close the case and move to another topic.
Summary
We have been able to prove without any iota of doubt that
Ancient Judaism believed in the divine Messiah.
Ancient Jews believed a Messiah is coming who will die for their sin according to Isaiah 53. They call him the redeemer.
Daniel 7 and 8 is reference to Greece and desecration perpetrated by Anthiochus Epiphanes.

Thank u

great Job

SIRTee15:
So since Qasim won't take up the challenge, let's close the case and move to another topic.
Summary
We have been able to prove without any iota of doubt that
Ancient Judaism believed in the divine Messiah.
Ancient Jews believed a Messiah is coming who will die for their sin according to Isaiah 53. They call him the redeemer.
Daniel 7 and 8 is reference to Greece and desecration perpetrated by Anthiochus Epiphanes.

Thank u

If this is your summary, I now understand perfectly why you are a Christian.

- U take Isaiah 53 as a prophecy about Jesus despite the fact that the suffering servant of Isaiah 53 is supposed to have offspring. and Isaiah 53 is at loggerheads with Psalm 91 a confirmed prophecy about Jesus.

- you agree with some "concensus of scholars" rather than the prophecies of prophets in the Bible.

- you use your Christian understanding of some terms like "Son of God", "Son of man" to claim divinity for Jesus in ancient Jewish writings.

But make we no finished all the discussion on this thread.

Enjoy your day bro.

Qasim6:
If this is you summary, I now understand perfectly why you are a Christian.

- U take Isaiah 53 as a prophecy about Jesus despite the fact that the suffering servant of Isaiah 53 is supposed to have offspring. and Isaiah 53 is at loggerhead with Psalm 91 a confirmed prophecy about Jesus.

- you agree with some "concensus of scholars" rather than the prophecies of prophets in the Bible.

- you use your Christian understanding of some terms like "Son of God", "Son of man" to claim divinity for Jesus in ancient Jewish writings.

But make we no finished all the discussion on this thread.

Enjoy your day bro.

so which servant was isalah 53 talking about

Kingsempires:
so which servant was isalah 53 talking about

Isaiah 53 is about Prophet Jeremiah.

Qasim6:
Isaiah 53 is about Prophet Jeremiah.

Were are you bring all this from