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| Letter Of Oyo King Begging England Against Extinction Of Race By Dahomians by AcuraZDX(op): 10:11am On Aug 20, 2024 |
October 15th 1881, the Palace of Oyo via King Adeyemi, King of the Yorubas, begs the Imperial Government of England for help against the Dahomians and possible extinction of the Yoruba race. 2 Likes
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| Re: Letter Of Oyo King Begging England Against Extinction Of Race By Dahomians by AcuraZDX(op): 10:11am On Aug 20, 2024 |
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| Re: Letter Of Oyo King Begging England Against Extinction Of Race By Dahomians by AcuraZDX(op): 10:11am On Aug 20, 2024 |
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| Re: Letter Of Oyo King Begging England Against Extinction Of Race By Dahomians by Sirmwill: 10:14am On Aug 20, 2024 |
Everyone from that time Including the Dahomians are all dust now 2 Likes |
| Re: Letter Of Oyo King Begging England Against Extinction Of Race By Dahomians by illicit(m): 10:16am On Aug 20, 2024 |
The few learned people of that time were British stooges Someone wrote this letter for the Alaafin... 4 Likes |
| Re: Letter Of Oyo King Begging England Against Extinction Of Race By Dahomians by Odua4life: 10:21am On Aug 20, 2024 |
Yes the Only empire the Yoruba race have a pact with is England... and we don't hide it. Our first campaigns against the English navy was very successful until the English went to regroup. Thanks to our oba of lagos for his wisdom.he saved his people. Never allow pride to get the best of you . Yorubas remains the greatest and the most civillised tribe in black Africa 9 Likes 3 Shares |
| Re: Letter Of Oyo King Begging England Against Extinction Of Race By Dahomians by Lifestone(m): 10:25am On Aug 20, 2024 |
We need the source for this letter. Secondly the letter is unsigned Thirdly, there is nothing like King of Yoruba especially as an Alafin. Fourthly, the English is too modern for 1881. I suspect that this letter is fake Agreed without conceding that the letter is genuine, I respect Alafin to know his limitations at war and sought for help rather than allowing over 3million of his people to perish. Sense prevailed over arrogance. 8 Likes 3 Shares |
| Re: Letter Of Oyo King Begging England Against Extinction Of Race By Dahomians by tommy589(m): 10:32am On Aug 20, 2024 |
| Re: Letter Of Oyo King Begging England Against Extinction Of Race By Dahomians by CyrusVI(m): 10:49am On Aug 20, 2024 |
No link or source to back this up So at 1881, they were sophisticated in the Western area to write like this They were being ruled by Elite Kings then? Now I know where all these Excellence comes from 4 Likes |
| Re: Letter Of Oyo King Begging England Against Extinction Of Race By Dahomians by misransome: 10:49am On Aug 20, 2024 |
Is this genuine? |
| Re: Letter Of Oyo King Begging England Against Extinction Of Race By Dahomians by CyrusVI(m): 11:06am On Aug 20, 2024 |
Lifestone:This still reflects in the region till today Diplomacy over every sense arrogance that can lead to stupid killings. Even past Isreal and Judah kings of the bible did this Things like this isnt even unheard of in history. Every lovers and readers of history should be familiar with this kinda letters. It fosters relationships between kingdoms and their alliance make them harder to break Aside not being able to verify this, assuming its true, I'm proud of the Alaafin. He took same initiatives like all powerful kings of the Earth before him Guess the Yorubas have a lil more documented history than most around them, maybe bar the Hausa and Fulani 4 Likes 2 Shares |
| Re: Letter Of Oyo King Begging England Against Extinction Of Race By Dahomians by illicit(m): 11:08am On Aug 20, 2024 |
CyrusVI:Yes of course Have you not heard of Samuel Johnson and his brother another Johnson that wrote Yoruba History, he was a correspondence between Yoruba Kings and governors or England, like he helped them write and pass letters, Samuel Ajayi Crowther too Those were elites of that time among others... 1 Like |
| Re: Letter Of Oyo King Begging England Against Extinction Of Race By Dahomians by AndroBlaze: 11:21am On Aug 20, 2024 |
The letter is fake...it is only those who do not know their history that can fall for this. Use google lens and you will see it comes from the usual culprits. 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Letter Of Oyo King Begging England Against Extinction Of Race By Dahomians by kaltonga: 11:31am On Aug 20, 2024 |
Lifestone:Which yeye source you dey find, dem tell you say 1000 women chase the entire Yorubas out of their land una begin beg British to come fight for una as usual, una cowardice no start today   1 Like |
| Re: Letter Of Oyo King Begging England Against Extinction Of Race By Dahomians by AndroBlaze: 11:40am On Aug 20, 2024 |
Lifestone:Good post. I deleted the parts of your post that were not necessary as the letter is fake. However the English part is also a good sign as not only is the English too modern, the standard is actually quite poor and again if they bothered with History (or even a simple KJV Bible), they would know there was no way the standard would be this low...especially if it was written by someone trained by missionaries. Ordinary to mimic their great great great grandfathers is difficult for GenZs of nowadays.....man this generation is truly dull. |
| Re: Letter Of Oyo King Begging England Against Extinction Of Race By Dahomians by Kinghenry1315: 12:11pm On Aug 20, 2024 |
Some of the English words are not used today desultory, rapacity,e t c |
| Re: Letter Of Oyo King Begging England Against Extinction Of Race By Dahomians by richiemcgold: 1:39pm On Aug 20, 2024*. Modified: 7:29pm On Aug 21, 2024 |
.. more like Ukraine seeking for a diplomatic support from the United Nations, United States or NATO. BTW, there's nothing like King of the Yorubas 2 Likes |
| Re: Letter Of Oyo King Begging England Against Extinction Of Race By Dahomians by RealityKings: 1:42pm On Aug 20, 2024 |
AcuraZDX:That means he cares about his people 1 Like |
| Re: Letter Of Oyo King Begging England Against Extinction Of Race By Dahomians by RealityKings: 1:43pm On Aug 20, 2024 |
Sirmwill:That the truth about life |
| Re: Letter Of Oyo King Begging England Against Extinction Of Race By Dahomians by Sirmwill: 1:45pm On Aug 20, 2024 |
Lifestone:You seem like an intelligent person |
| Re: Letter Of Oyo King Begging England Against Extinction Of Race By Dahomians by PJtech: 1:53pm On Aug 20, 2024 |
If this useless post hit front page. The mods are crazy |
| Re: Letter Of Oyo King Begging England Against Extinction Of Race By Dahomians by ruggedtimi(m): 2:20pm On Aug 20, 2024*. Modified: 2:38pm On Aug 20, 2024 |
Before the letter go reach london and before london go send steam ship back to west africa, by that time the dahomey warriors go don overrun the yoruba kingdom. Omo see big big grammar. Well i beg to remain "ruggedtimi" 1 Like |
| Re: Letter Of Oyo King Begging England Against Extinction Of Race By Dahomians by ruggedtimi(m): 2:30pm On Aug 20, 2024 |
Lifestone:have you read older letters dated before 1881...that english is not too modern...secondly he was the alaafin of oyo and leader of Yoruba land then. So he was recognized as the leader of the yoruba people by the british, it does mean there were no kings of other yoruba towns. Ģo and read the treaty between the alafin of Oyo and the Queen Victoria of England. richiemcgold:it was his title then...Alafin Of oyo the King of yorubaland. |
| Re: Letter Of Oyo King Begging England Against Extinction Of Race By Dahomians by PureFace1(m): 2:47pm On Aug 20, 2024*. Modified: 3:11pm On Aug 20, 2024 |
AcuraZDX:These Jungle people that their brain were not even developed enough to build an empire are always looking for a way to mock Yoruba Same Dahomey that was under Oyo Empire for many years. You Igbo don't understand warfare, War is not always about chest beating and making noise or just being brave, war is more complex than that. Reason why Ojuwku wasted 3 million Igbo and ran away. Even if the letter was real, the British have better weapons than Yoruba at the time and Yoruba were wise enough to recognize that, everything is not always nsogbu nsogbu like barbarians, just like Israel have USA support and Ukraine have USA support. If tomorrow prime minister of Israel ask for USA help against Iran does that now mean Isreali are cowards or can't fight ? no but in war you utilize all the advantages you have including your allies to crush your enemies. President of Ukraine is always asking for USA help against Russia, does that now mean Ukraine people are weak or cowards? No, are they not the one now invading Russia with the help of USA ? If tomorrow USA want to go to war against China, they will call for support from NATO and other allies, does that now mean USA is weak ? War is more complex than how you Igbo usually portray it, it is not all about just being brave or loud. There was a reason Yoruba had an empire and like every empire in the world they always have their rise and fall like the Roman empire, British empire, Mongol Empire etc it doesn't mean they weren't great. With these mentality from you Igbo if you start another war again you will lose badly again, your brain is just too low for warfare, to your brain if one opponent retreat one time or call for support then he already lose and he must be weak, there's something call stooping low to conquer. Because the Yoruba king at the time utilize all the advantages they have instead of being arrogant and brain dead, Dahomey did not take over south west Nigeria and they also failed to take over Abeokuta in Ogun state, because of the knowledge of Yoruba forefathers Fulani didn't cross Ilorin and take over south west like they took over Hausa Land. Nigeria is now a country we can not just declare all out war on another tribe but if Nigeria ever descend into war again, you will know the true Yoruba. 2 Likes |
| Re: Letter Of Oyo King Begging England Against Extinction Of Race By Dahomians by Lifestone(m): 3:39pm On Aug 20, 2024 |
ruggedtimi:There is NO title such as Alafin of Oyo, King of Yorubaland. Never. The letter was supposedly written by Alafin but no signature Even if that's true, it means diplomacy at its peak. 1 Like |
| Re: Letter Of Oyo King Begging England Against Extinction Of Race By Dahomians by ruggedtimi(m): 3:59pm On Aug 20, 2024 |
Lifestone:boss if you no know oyo empire stretching to other yoruba kingdoms...thus the oba of oyo regarded himself as the Ruler of yoruba land more like an emperor. |
| Re: Letter Of Oyo King Begging England Against Extinction Of Race By Dahomians by Lifestone(m): 5:08pm On Aug 20, 2024 |
ruggedtimi:I said No. All the towns have their own Kings irrespective of the subjugation of the Oyo Empire 1 Like |
| Re: Letter Of Oyo King Begging England Against Extinction Of Race By Dahomians by Elliotwaveforec: 6:50pm On Aug 20, 2024 |
Letter written 188xxx Blockade of the port by the British took place 1852. I doubt the authenticity of this letter. 2 Likes 1 Share
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| Re: Letter Of Oyo King Begging England Against Extinction Of Race By Dahomians by ShoeGetSize: 7:16pm On Aug 20, 2024 |
So why were you begging the British to save your lives? Secondly, how were you able to campaign against the British Navy which had frigates and 88 millimeter canon guns with ordinary canoes? Odua4life: |
| Re: Letter Of Oyo King Begging England Against Extinction Of Race By Dahomians by RedboneSmith(m): 7:31am On Aug 21, 2024 |
Lifestone:No the letter is not fake. It is included in the "History of the Yorubas" which was completed by Samuel Johnson in 1897 although it was not published until 1921. Samuel Johnson, by the way, witnessed the unrest in Yorubaland in the latter part of the 19th century and was a key person in negotiating peace at the end of the Kiriji Wars. So he was a witness to all these events. "King of Yoruba" at the time simply means "King of Oyo". Don't read too much into it. "Yoruba" was more or less synonymous with "Oyo" until Bishop Ajayi Crowther began to promote the use of the term to include all Yoruba-speaking groups. That was why a nineteenth-century newspaper was called "iwe iro in fun awon ara Egba ati Yoruba" - newspaper for the Egba and the Yoruba. A name that suggests that Egba were at the time non-Yoruba in the way they identify. About signatures, Alaafin Adeyemi was illiterate. His letters were written for him by a secretary who at the time was usually a Sierra Leonean returnee. As a result his early letters were usually unsigned. But some of the latter letters he wrote, from the 1890s were marked with an "X" to stand in place of a signature. The English is too modern for 1881? How do you think people were speaking and writing in 1881? Were you expecting to see "thou" and "comest" and "thee"? Read books that were writren about that same period by people like Ajayi Crowther and explorers like Mockler-Ferryman and Harry Johnston, and then come back and talk about the English sounding too modern. 3 Likes 1 Share |
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