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Re: Nigeria, A Collateral Damage, Says Burna Boy by Ibehchizzy: 12:27am On Aug 24, 2024
Absolutely right
Re: Nigeria, A Collateral Damage, Says Burna Boy by donbrowser(m): 12:27am On Aug 24, 2024
Can we revisit his murder case?
Re: Nigeria, A Collateral Damage, Says Burna Boy by Xkonzult: 12:33am On Aug 24, 2024
helinues:
Wetin this one dey talk.

Igbolabi
U always talk nonsense for 30k.....
Re: Nigeria, A Collateral Damage, Says Burna Boy by Kobojunkieee: 12:44am On Aug 24, 2024
Morbeta11:
He noted that Nigeria as a country was never meant to exist and it is “nothing but the result of a bad business enterprise entered into by the British”, nothing “but the collateral damage of a business deal gone south.”
He noted that “the area called Nigeria was first known as the Niger Area before the Royal Niger Company acquired it.
“After it was acquired, the Royal Niger Company decided to amalgamate the North and South as against running them as separate entities, and it was at this point that the country Nigeria was birthed.
The Afro-fusion star noted that “when the amalgamation was going to happen, the Niger Company and the British who sold Nigeria didn’t take into consideration those living in the region.
“The two entities that sold and bought the Niger Area, the people living there were nothing but collateral damage.”
Nonsense talk really! You don't hear South Africa and Zambia crying, do you? They were all amalgamations formed by the British. Nigeria's problem isn't the British but division amongst the people sponsored by the political class who employ a divide-and-conquer approach to ruling over them. undecided
Re: Nigeria, A Collateral Damage, Says Burna Boy by Monimaker22: 12:46am On Aug 24, 2024
Burna Boy take for that name, beta oil dey your head while the efulefus keep arguing.
Re: Nigeria, A Collateral Damage, Says Burna Boy by Kushites: 12:49am On Aug 24, 2024
Kobojunkieee:
Nonsense talk really! You don't hear South Africa and Zambia crying, do you? They were all amalgamations formed by the British. Nigeria's problem isn't the British but division amongst the people sponsored by the political class who employ a divide-and-conquer approach to ruling over them. undecided
Don't mind these stupid Nigerians.

Miserable idiots.

Somebody from Rivers or Enugu will be moaning about ''NIGERIA'', meanwhile his state governor is banking their monthly allocation, and buying mansions in America.

But no. The problem is not the governor and his thieving state colleagues.

The problem is ''NIGERIA''.

People in SOKOTO.

''NIGERIA'' made your state governor, who you all trooped out to vote for, to loot your state funds.

IDIOTS.

BURNA SHOULD GO AND FCK HIMSELF.

TODAY, over 60% of national revenues are shared out to the STATES.

They are richer than the FG.

The states are largely autonomous now.

They can generate their own electricity.

Harness their own resources.

Zamfara state today is harnessing its gold, and has gold mines where anybody can go and do business.

I saw an Igbo man there doing gold business freely.

Lagos state is building railway lines everywhere.

What is stopping each state from doing the same and harnessing their resources to generate more revenue?

NOTHING.

But these IDIOTS will ignore their useless state governments to blame ''NIGERIA'' for all their problems.

USELESS THINGS..
Re: Nigeria, A Collateral Damage, Says Burna Boy by Kobojunkieee:
Arostar2023:
■ Dissolution of the union or going back to regional governments. That way, if your tribesman misbehave , you can easily remove him from office without been accused of tribalism.
Nonsense! Stop swimming in what are fairy delusions!

When Nigeria had a regional governmental system back in the 60s, did tribalism disappear? No, It was even more pronounced then. Majority ethnic groups within each region situated themselves as rulers and masters over the minorities and marginalization was the order of the day. That is one of the reasons for the unification decree of 1966 by Ironsi. Most Nigerians, many of them members of the minority ethnic groups, did not even fight that change because they had nothing to lose with regional rule going away. So, why would you demand that now except you are either ignorant of the country's past or you are confident that your ethnic group is part of the majority that benefitted the most from it. undecided

Make una no dey pretend say history no dey there to teach una fact from fiction abeg! undecided
Re: Nigeria, A Collateral Damage, Says Burna Boy by Kobojunkieee: 1:01am On Aug 24, 2024
Kushites:
■ Don't mind these stupid Nigerians. Miserable idiots. Somebody will be moaning about ''NIGERIA'', meanwhile his state governor is banking their monthly allocation, and buying mansions in America. But no. The problem is not the governor and his thieving state colleagues. The problem is ''NIGERIA''. People in SOKOTO. ''NIGERIA'' made your state governor, who you all trooped out to vote for, to loot your state funds. IDIOTS. BURNA SHOULD GO AND FCK HIMSELF.
I have to disagree with you there. The problem is instead the people. Democracy is the government of the people by the people, after all. Rather than take the helm — sit tightly in the driver's seat of their government —, for the last 25 years, Nigerians have instead occupied a docile seat in the union leaving the goats — their elected officials — to roam free and without a necessary leash. The corruption and decay we see today are the result of that docility. The British had nothing to do with all of that. undecided
Re: Nigeria, A Collateral Damage, Says Burna Boy by Chikel20000(m): 1:02am On Aug 24, 2024
Marvieduke:
Hmmmm Niger-area to Niger-ia, collateral damage indeed...
babe....are u single?
Re: Nigeria, A Collateral Damage, Says Burna Boy by kanupapilo: 1:03am On Aug 24, 2024
Kobojunkieee:
Nonsense! Stop swimming in what are fairy delusions!

When Nigeria had a regional rule back in the 60s, did tribalism disappear? No, It was even more pronounced then. Majority ethnic groups within each region situated themselves as rulers and masters over the minorities and marginalization was the order of the day. That is one of the reasons for the unification decree of 1966 by Ironsi. undecided

Make una no dey pretend say history no dey there to teach una fact from fiction abeg! undecided
True...tribalism was worse under regional government.

Re: Nigeria, A Collateral Damage, Says Burna Boy by Kushites: 1:11am On Aug 24, 2024
Kobojunkieee:
I have to disagree with you there. The problem is instead the people. Democracy is the government of the people by the people, after all. Rather than take the helm — sit tightly in the driver's seat of their government —, for the last 25 years, Nigerians have instead occupied a docile seat in the union leaving the goats — their elected officials — to roam free and without a necessary leash. The corruption and decay we see today are the result of that docility. The British had nothing to do with all of that. undecided
Not really sure I get what you're saying, or that you get what I was saying.

My point is Nigerians need to hold their STATE GOVERNMENTS to account.

Their state governments receive TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS CASH EVERY MONTH in allocation from Abuja.

But every problem the people of the state have, they blame the FG, leaving their state governments to steal freely, knowing that the people will blame ABUJA, the President, and ''NIGERIA'' for their problems.

Example: A state lacks pipe borne water.

It's not the fault of the state government whose job it is to provide pipe borne water to its citizens.

No. The problem is ''NIGERIA''.

Because they amalgamated you with Sokoto and Kaduna.

That is why your state governor in Anambra or Ondo or Abia is a useless thief stealing your funds and doing nothing.

Let that make sense.

I doubt Burna goat even knows the name of his state governor, not to mention his LG chairman.

But he knows ''NIGERIA''.

And ''TINUBU''.

So if we ''break up Nigeria'', their regional leaders will suddenly turn to angels and saints?

Rubbish.
Re: Nigeria, A Collateral Damage, Says Burna Boy by Rinoxy: 1:18am On Aug 24, 2024
History 101
Re: Nigeria, A Collateral Damage, Says Burna Boy by Kobojunkieee: 1:18am On Aug 24, 2024
kanupapilo:
■ True...tribalism was worse under regional government.
It was!

Look at the States today for an example of what to expect if Nigerians were to back regional rule. In many states, as it is, ethnic tribes are mostly left out of government. In Abia State, for example, the majority group in the state are the Ngwa people found in nine local government areas of Abia State, namely: Obingwa, Osisioma Ngwa, Isiala Ngwa North, Isiala Ngwa South, Aba North, Ugwunagbo, Aba South, Ukwa East and Ukwa West. Most of the governors in the state since 1999 have been from that one group and the minority people in the same state are not happy about it at all. But they at least have a chance to get one of their own into the State and National Assembly as well as the House of Representatives meaning some needed additional constituency money from the Federal is bound to flow into them if all goes well. So, what do they have to gain from a regional governmental arrangement? undecided
Re: Nigeria, A Collateral Damage, Says Burna Boy by Kobojunkieee: 1:24am On Aug 24, 2024
Kushites:
■ Not really sure I get what you're saying, or that you get what I was saying. My point is Nigerians need to hold their STATE GOVERNMENTS to account. Their state governments receive TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS CASH EVERY MONTH in allocation from Abuja.
■ But every problem the people of the state have, they blame the FG, leaving their state governments to steal freely, knowing that the people will blame ABUJA, the President, and ''NIGERIA'' for their problems. Example: A state lacks pipe borne water. It's not the fault of the state government whose job it is to provide pipe borne water to its citizens. No. The problem is ''NIGERIA''. Just because they amalgamated you with Sokoto and Kaduna. That is why your state governor in Anambra or Ondo or Abia is a useless thief stealing your funds and doing nothing. Let that make sense. I doubt Burna goat even knows the name of his state governor, not to mention his LG chairman. But he knows ''NIGERIA''. And ''TINUBU''. Rubbish.
1. It is no secret that the average Nigerian is not civically educated. This problem stems from a dilapidated and destroyed Educational system that is barely funded at all levels of government. undecided

2. I agree with you that all arms of Government should be to blame for the problem — the LG, State Governors, and the FG. Not just one. undecided
Re: Nigeria, A Collateral Damage, Says Burna Boy by Kushites: 1:25am On Aug 24, 2024
Kobojunkieee:
1. It is no secret that the average Nigerian is not civically educated. This problem stems from a dilapidated and destroyed Educational system that is barely funded at all levels of government. undecided

2. I agree with you that all arms of Government should be to blame for the problem — the LG, State Governors, and the FG. Not just one. undecided
Exactly!
Re: Nigeria, A Collateral Damage, Says Burna Boy by kanupapilo: 1:25am On Aug 24, 2024
Kobojunkieee:
1. It is no secret that the average Nigerian is not civically educated. This problem stems from a dilapidated and destroyed Educational system that is barely funded at all levels of government. undecided

2. I agree with you that all arms of Government should be to blame for the problem — the LG, State Governors, and the FG. Not just one. undecided
Gbam
Re: Nigeria, A Collateral Damage, Says Burna Boy by franugo(m): 1:25am On Aug 24, 2024
mrvitalis:
If our celebrities pay the Tax they are meant to pay they won't be this silent

The tax they don't pay is a bribe to them

You want to tell me burner boy makes 80 million dollars and pays 40 million dollars as tax he would keep quiet like he is today?

No... I have always said it Tax would fix every problem we have in Nigeria
Why would he pay 50% of his income as taxhuh? What do you think the political office holders pay as tax that someone that actually works for his income will come and pay 50%?

Re: Nigeria, A Collateral Damage, Says Burna Boy by franvincoop: 1:31am On Aug 24, 2024
Can you also prove in court that he does not smoke, sniff or inject?

bro4u:
Can you prove in court that tinubu smokes??
Re: Nigeria, A Collateral Damage, Says Burna Boy by Kushites: 1:35am On Aug 24, 2024
Kobojunkieee:
It was!

Look at the States today for an example of what to expect if Nigerians were to back regional rule. In many states, as it is, ethnic tribes are mostly left out of government. In Abia State, for example, the majority group in the state are the Ngwa people found in nine local government areas of Abia State, namely: Obingwa, Osisioma Ngwa, Isiala Ngwa North, Isiala Ngwa South, Aba North, Ugwunagbo, Aba South, Ukwa East and Ukwa West. Most of the governors in the state since 1999 have been from that one group and the minority people in the same state are not happy about it at all. But they at least have a chance to get one of their own into the State and National Assembly as well as the House of Representatives. So, what do they have to gain from a regional governmental system? undecided
This is a very important point, and speaks to the fact that Nigeria has over 300 ethnic groups.

And even divisions within each ethnic group, like you explained.

If Nigeria breaks up into say 5 countries, that means on average each country will have 60 ethnic groups.

Tell me what will change.

It will still be the same story of one or two majority groups dominating, and the smaller groups feeling 'marginalised'.

Before you know it, trouble has started.

It will be the same story.

We will simply have 5 'NIGERIAS' instead of 1.

Meaning even MORE instability.
Re: Nigeria, A Collateral Damage, Says Burna Boy by nasbiafra(m): 1:36am On Aug 24, 2024
since 1960 them dey play us wayo
Re: Nigeria, A Collateral Damage, Says Burna Boy by Kobojunkieee: 1:40am On Aug 24, 2024
Kushites:
■ This a very important point, and speaks to the fact that Nigeria has over 300 ethnic groups. If Nigeria breaks up say into 5 countries, that means on average each country will have 60 ethnic groups. Tell me what will change. It will still be the same story of one or two majority groups dominating, and the smaller groups feeling 'marginalised'. It will be the same story. We will simply have 5 'NIGERIAS' instead of 1. Meaning even MORE instability.
Exactly! I have said it several times, if indeed dividing Nigeria up is the way to resolve the problem then the country would need to be divided up into a region for each ethnic group to make that happen. 🤔
Re: Nigeria, A Collateral Damage, Says Burna Boy by Kushites: 1:48am On Aug 24, 2024
Kobojunkieee:
Exactly! I have said it several times, if indeed dividing Nigeria up is the way to resolve the problem then the country would need to be divided up into a region for each ethnic group to make that happen. 🤔
Meaning 300 countries!

It would be an absolute nightmare. Utter chaos.

The most sensible thing is to maintain this nation and strive to make it 'a more perfect union', as the Americans would say.,

We have passed through teething stages of nation building, fought a civil war, had the coups etc etc, and now have been a civilian democracy for nearly 30 yrs.

If we throw all that away, and break up, the new nations will have to go through THEIR cycle of teething, and it could end up in coups, civil wars, and far weaker institutions than we currently have, since it takes decades to build up sturdy national institutions like the judiciary, military, national ethos etc.
Re: Nigeria, A Collateral Damage, Says Burna Boy by opamoses1: 1:48am On Aug 24, 2024
He is right. Nigeria is supposed to be at least 20 different countries if divided along ethnic lines.
Re: Nigeria, A Collateral Damage, Says Burna Boy by Kushites: 1:52am On Aug 24, 2024
kanupapilo:
True...tribalism was worse under regional government.
Absolutely.

It was the regional tribalism that led to the civil war!!

Breaking the country up into states is the best thing that ever happened to Nigeria, and was in effect the ''dividing of Nigeria'' that people are calling for now.

It's already happened!

We've already divided Nigeria!!

Every state is a mini-country! Autonomous, apart from having its own military and police.

Even state police is being considered now.

Some states are bigger and richer than some African countries!

So what is all this stuff about moaning endlessly about the 'amalgamation of Nigeria by the British'.

This is not the 'Nigeria' the British left us with.

We have altered it significantly to suit our internal dynamics.
Re: Nigeria, A Collateral Damage, Says Burna Boy by Kobojunkieee: 1:53am On Aug 24, 2024
Kushites:
■ Meaning 300 countries! It would be an absolute nightmare. Utter chaos. The most sensible thing is to maintain this nation and strive to make it 'a more perfect union', as the Americans would say., We have passed through teething stages of nation building, fought a civil war, had the coups etc etc, and now have been a civilian democracy for nearly 30 yrs. If we throw all that away, and break up, the new nations will have to go through THEIR cycle of teething, and it could end up in coups, civil wars, and far weaker institutions than we currently have, since it takes decades to build up sturdy national institutions like the judiciary, military, national ethos etc.
I wouldn't write it off because we have yet to try that at all. grin
Re: Nigeria, A Collateral Damage, Says Burna Boy by Kushites: 2:05am On Aug 24, 2024
opamoses1:
He is right. Nigeria is supposed to be at least 20 different countries if divided along ethnic lines.
Chei...Even Sierra Leone will become your boss, not to mention Ghana or (God help us) South Africa, with your 20 mushroom countries.

Never gonna happen.

From African giant to little unviable maggots.

Get the hell outta here!!! angry
Re: Nigeria, A Collateral Damage, Says Burna Boy by Twoclans(f): 2:09am On Aug 24, 2024
Burna talking about Nigeria shocked Are they sure ?
Re: Nigeria, A Collateral Damage, Says Burna Boy by Kushites: 2:10am On Aug 24, 2024
Kobojunkieee:
I wouldn't write it off because we have yet to try that at all. grin
Nah...In today's world, SIZE matters.

Nigeria is about to join BRICS.

Her President is always invited for G20 meetings, to speak for Africa.

When you destroy Nigeria, all that is GONE.

You will become less important than Sierra Leone.

Even Togo will be ordering you around in ECOWAS.

From grace to smithereens.

It's simply not an option.

The smaller countries like South Sudan and Liberia have not turned into El Dorado because they are small, and neither will your tiny countries.

You will massively miss the days of being NIGERIA.

Don't take this giant for granted. You are the envy of all Africa due to your massive size, potential, and cultural impact on the continent, and increasingly, on the world.

Do you know that Nigeria is projected to become the 3rd most populous nation on earth after China and India by 2050?

That will make it an absolute MAGNET for major investors all over the world.

No company in their right mind can ignore the world's 3rd largest consumer market.

The sky is the limit for this country.
Re: Nigeria, A Collateral Damage, Says Burna Boy by RealityKings: 2:17am On Aug 24, 2024
kestolove95:
People that smoke weed make sense more than people that don't smoke weed... Tinubu is d only person that smoke and don't make sense
You forgot to add even tho you are not a Christian?
Re: Nigeria, A Collateral Damage, Says Burna Boy by Kobojunkieee: 2:20am On Aug 24, 2024
Kushites:
■ Nah...In today's world, SIZE matters. Nigeria is about to join BRICS. Her president is always invited for G20 meetings, to speak for Africa. When you destroy Nigeria, all that is GONE. You will become less important than Sierra Leone. Even Togo will be ordering you around in ECOWAS. From grace to smithereens. It's simply not an optios. The smaller countries like South Sudan and Liberia have not turned into El Dorado because they are small, and neither will your tiny countries. You will massively miss the days of NIGERIA. Don't take this giant for granted.
I am not concerned about any of those things at all. And I suspect a lot of Nigerians clamoring for division are equally not concerned either. All that you point out are just meaningless ideas to the average man on the streets of Nigeria hoping the hell that is Nigeria will come to an end. Such things only matter to those who are enjoying life and country something the vast majority of Nigerians can only dream of. So, even if peace and prosperity can be found in a tiny nation, many will take that instead of all of the big dreams you seem lured by. undecided
Re: Nigeria, A Collateral Damage, Says Burna Boy by Kushites:
Kobojunkieee:
I am not concerned about any of those things at all. And I suspect a lot of Nigerians clamoring for division are equally not concerned either. All that you point out are just meaningless ideas to the average man on the streets of Nigeria hoping the hell that is Nigeria will come to an end. Such things only matter to those who are enjoying life and country something the vast majority of Nigerians can only dream of. So, even if peace and prosperity can be found in a tiny nation, many will take that instead of all of the big dreams you seem lured by. undecided
But where is the 'peace and prosperity' in the tiny countries around you?

Name ONE of them that you can migrate to now, to live the happy prosperous life that eludes you in Nigeria.

The man on the street is NOT calling for the break-up of Nigeria.

It is IPOB thugs greedy to steal the Niger Delta oil in the guise of 'Biafran freedom' that are calling for the break-up of Nigeria, NOT the average Nigerian on the street.

If you stop the average guy on the streets of Kaduna, Lagos, Ibadan, Jos, Benin, Abuja, Sokoto, Lokoja, or Calabar, and ask him if Nigeria should break up, he will say 'why'?

Don't mistake the feelings of IPOB supporters in Aba and Onitsha for the sentiments of the ''average Nigerian on the street''.
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