₦airaland Forum

Kushites:
■But where is the 'peace and prosperity' in the smaller countries around you? The man on the street is NOT calling for the break up of Nigeria. It is IPOB thugs greedy to steal the Niger Delta oil in the guise of 'Biafran freedom' that are calling for the break up of Nigeria.

You aren't listening to them or you haven't been paying attention at all, it seems!

Many on the streets, particularly the older crowd, have dreamed of this break-up. Growing up in Ikorodu in the 80s, many believed it was sure to happen. Ikorodu is not in the SE. During the recent protests, we saw people raising flags of another country while trampling the Nigerian flag. Now, more than ever, many in all regions are pretty much sure a breakup is coming. So, this isn't one region trying to break things up but people in all regions clamoring for a break-up!

mrvitalis:
If our celebrities pay the Tax they are meant to pay they won't be this silent

The tax they don't pay is a bribe to them

You want to tell me burner boy makes 80 million dollars and pays 40 million dollars as tax he would keep quiet like he is today?

No... I have always said it Tax would fix every problem we have in Nigeria

Let's use lagos state as a perfect scenario for your suggestion. Please how has taxation fixed lagos? We would both agree that lagos state is the most taxed obliging state right.

Kobojunkieee:
You aren't listening to them or you haven't been paying attention at all, it seems!

Many on the streets, particularly the older crowd, have dreamed of this break-up. Growing up in Ikorodu in the 80s, many believed it was sure to happen. Ikorodu is not in the SE. During the recent protests, we saw people raising flags of another country while trampling the Nigerian flag. Now, more than ever, many in all regions are pretty much sure a breakup is coming. So, this isn't one region trying to break things up but people in all regions clamoring for a break-up!

That some miscreants raised Russian flags in the north does not mean they want Nigeria to break up.

Also, public demonstrations in which less than 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of the country are in the streets are no indication that Nigerians want the country to break up.

The recent protests were not about people clamouring for the break up of Nigeria.

They just wanted the rise in living costs addressed.

Your discussions with a few people in Ikorodu donkey years ago does not prove a national desire to dismember the federation.

Kushites:
■ That some miscreants raised Russian flags in the north does not mean they want Nigeria to break up.
■ Also, public demonstrations in which less than 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000001% of the country are in the streets are no indication that Nigerians want the country to break up. The recent protests were not about people clamouring for the break up of Nigeria.
They just wanted the rise in living costs addressed.
■ Your discussions with a few people in Ikorodu donkey years ago does not prove a national desire to dismember the federation.

They are not miscreants but Nigerians. You may not agree with their views but they are Nigerians and their views matter just as yours does. Even the views of the Arewa groups up north equally matter.

2. The number that was on the streets in Kano alone was more than that. Let's try to be honest abeg! All of Kano combined was well over 100,000 during the protests, and there is video from many of the different locations to show this. So why do you feel that diminishing the facts would somehow make the issue go away?

3. It was not a discussion but a sort of tradition back then. To this day, we have those who clamor for Yoruba Nation. Even the man who is president today — Tinubu — is on record confessing, back in 1999, that he too did not believe in one Nigeria. Do you think that has changed? When he was asked about it before his election, he said it could wait until after he has had his turn So, I am not certain why you feel that everyone must see this the way you do or else be tagged irrelevant. There are real voices, recognized in all regions, calling for the breaking of Nigeria. Ignoring them will not make them go away.

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mrvitalis:
If our celebrities pay the Tax they are meant to pay they won't be this silent

The tax they don't pay is a bribe to them

You want to tell me burner boy makes 80 million dollars and pays 40 million dollars as tax he would keep quiet like he is today?

No... I have always said it Tax would fix every problem we have in Nigeria

That doesn't work that way, we need strong and accountable institutions to be able to build a tax system

Af0nja:
That doesn't work that way, we need strong and accountable institutions to be able to build a tax system

So why haven't we built them?
Smh

IamtheTruth1:
Let's use lagos state as a perfect scenario for your suggestion. Please how has taxation fixed lagos? We would both agree that lagos state is the most taxed obliging state right.

If they pay real tax in Lagos Lagos would generate 10 trillion minimum

They don't really pay tax in Lagos

franugo:
Why would he pay 50% of his income as tax? What do you think the political office holders pay as tax that someone that actually works for his income will come and pay 50%?

Because that's what he is meant to pay

Kushites:
Don't mind these stupid Nigerians.

Miserable idiots.

Somebody from Rivers or Enugu will be moaning about ''NIGERIA'', meanwhile his state governor is banking their monthly allocation, and buying mansions in America.

But no. The problem is not the governor and his thieving state colleagues.

The problem is ''NIGERIA''.

People in SOKOTO.

''NIGERIA'' made your state governor, who you all trooped out to vote for, to loot your state funds.

IDIOTS.

BURNA SHOULD GO AND FCK HIMSELF.

TODAY, over 60% of national revenues are shared out to the STATES.

They are richer than the FG.

The states are largely autonomous now.

They can generate their own electricity.

Harness their own resources.

Zamfara state today is harnessing its gold, and has gold mines where anybody can go and do business.

I saw an Igbo man there doing gold business freely.

Lagos state is building railway lines everywhere.

What is stopping each state from doing the same and harnessing their resources to generate more revenue?

NOTHING.

But these IDIOTS will ignore their useless state governments to blame ''NIGERIA'' for all their problems.

USELESS THINGS..

Please kindly see a doctor as soon as possible.


Just an advise .

Nigeria can exist together.


It's just about good leadership. Even d smallest unit of d society called family has failed to prosper due to bad leadership not to talk of region.

U are a stupid fool, I blame lugard for joining me with a fool like you. Who said fuel subside is gone on his first day in office without planning , is it the State governors (no). Who made some bad economics policies causing dollars rise against naira, is it the State governors (no). Who devalue naira, is it the State governors (no). Who increased tax in every area, even custom duty of 40 fit container is 20 million naira, is it the State governors (no). The president is the commander chief of Army forces but there is insecurity, kidnapping, killing everywhere. There is corruption everywhere but the president promised to kill corruption but he increase rate of corruption. So think very well before you open ur rubbish mouth to talk

Kushites:
Don't mind these stupid Nigerians.

Miserable idiots.

Somebody from Rivers or Enugu will be moaning about ''NIGERIA'', meanwhile his state governor is banking their monthly allocation, and buying mansions in America.

But no. The problem is not the governor and his thieving state colleagues.

The problem is ''NIGERIA''.

People in SOKOTO.

''NIGERIA'' made your state governor, who you all trooped out to vote for, to loot your state funds.

IDIOTS.

BURNA SHOULD GO AND FCK HIMSELF.

TODAY, over 60% of national revenues are shared out to the STATES.

They are richer than the FG.

The states are largely autonomous now.

They can generate their own electricity.

Harness their own resources.

Zamfara state today is harnessing its gold, and has gold mines where anybody can go and do business.

I saw an Igbo man there doing gold business freely.

Lagos state is building railway lines everywhere.

What is stopping each state from doing the same and harnessing their resources to generate more revenue?

NOTHING.

But these IDIOTS will ignore their useless state governments to blame ''NIGERIA'' for all their problems.

USELESS THINGS..

Anytime I read about this and look at the learned people defending the contraption, I get pissed off. Politicians are not the only problem of the country, they are just the current beneficiaries.

helinues:
Wetin this one dey talk.

Igbolabi

STFU STFU..... Men you deserve to be **********

Okay

oyeb15:
↪Nigeria can exist together. It's just about good leadership. Even d smallest unit of d society called family has failed to prosper due to bad leadership not to talk of region.

Who are the leaders in a democracy?

mrvitalis:
If our celebrities pay the Tax they are meant to pay they won't be this silent

The tax they don't pay is a bribe to them

You want to tell me burner boy makes 80 million dollars and pays 40 million dollars as tax he would keep quiet like he is today?

No... I have always said it Tax would fix every problem we have in Nigeria

You are nothing but what Burna Boy just described.
Collateral damage.
If all the loans and crude oil can't fix that road in your place you think it's burnas tax that will fix it?
National Assembly and Executive cum judiciary have finished Nigeria with Salary, allowances and corruption QED

tiwasiaife:
■ You are nothing but what Burna Boy just described. Collateral damage. If all the loans and crude oil can't fix that road in your place you think it's burnas tax that will fix it? National Assembly and Executive cum judiciary have finished Nigeria with Salary, allowances and corruption QED

you conveniently ignore the man's message only to spew what amounts to an emotional rant.

Do you know why Nigerians, the moment they land in a developed country, become advocates for good governance and stand up for their rights? Part of it has to do with the fact that they pay taxes and so feel it is in their interest to voice their opinion and ensure there money is spent well.

If your Nigerian celebrities and workers for instance paid taxes in Nigeria, do you think they would all be as quiet as they have been all this while? Before you respond, try to engage your brain and bypass your emotion center first.

mrvitalis:
If our celebrities pay the Tax they are meant to pay they won't be this silent

The tax they don't pay is a bribe to them

You want to tell me burner boy makes 80 million dollars and pays 40 million dollars as tax he would keep quiet like he is today?

No... I have always said it Tax would fix every problem we have in Nigeria

the way una dey call money for nigeria dey make even western people fear how do arrive at 80 million dollars in a years

Kobojunkieee:
They are not miscreants but Nigerians. You may not agree with their views but they are Nigerians and their views matter just as yours does. Even the views of the Arewa groups up north equally matter.

2. The number that was on the streets in Kano alone was more than that. Let's try to be honest abeg! All of Kano combined was well over 100,000 during the protests, and there is video from many of the different locations to show this. So why do you somehow feel that diminishing the facts would somehow make the issue go away?

3. It was not a discussion but a sort of tradition back then. To this day, we have those who clamor for Yoruba Nation. Even the man who is president today — Tinubu — is on record confessing, back in 1999, that he too did not believe in one Nigeria. Do you think that has changed? When he was asked about it before his election, he said it could wait until after he has had his turn So, I am not certain why you feel that everyone must see this the way you do or else be tagged irrelevant. There are real voices, recognized in all regions, calling for the breaking of Nigeria. Ignoring them will not make them go away.

YOU are the one exaggerating these sentiments. Blowing them out of all proportion.

100,000 people protesting in Kano is about enough to fill up the National stadium in Abuja.

Hardly 230 million Nigerians.

Secondly, Nigeria is far from being the only country where people fantasize about seceding.

But it's just that. HOT AIR.

FANTASY.

Loose talk.

Here is a list of secessionist groups around the world:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_separatist_movements_in_North_America

There are literally HUNDREDS of them.

They are in France, Holland, Denmark, Australia, Indonesia, Trinidad, New Zealand, Canada, Mexico, Haiti and more.

In America there are at least 15 active secessionist groups.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_separatist_movements_in_North_America#United_States

In fact we are LEARNERS in Nigeria with regard to separatist sentiments.

So secessionist sentiments are a very common phenomenon.

Less than 1% of them achieve secession, and that's a generous figure. Probably more like 0.00001%.

Here's a secret:

No country ''breaks up'' unless its ELITE decide it's no longer in their interest to remain a single political unit.

It doesn't happen by people shouting on the street, abusing the president online, doing 'sit at home', and all that nonsense.

SO LONG AS THE ELITE are fine with Nigeria being NIGERIA, you can FORGET about Nigeria breaking up.

If you try to force it, they will send in the army to crush you.

The ELITE control the forces of coercion, NOT you or the masses on the street.

The only sign you need that the ELITE have ZERO interest in Nigeria splintering is that NOT ONE MOTION FOR SECESSION has been brought before the National Assembly since the return to democracy in 1999.

NOTHING FROM THE SOUTH EAST. So called 'secessionist region'.

Why?

Because the Igbo ELITE are HAPPY TO BE IN NIGERIA.

They KNOW they make more money selling to the NIGERIAN market of 230 million than they will ever make selling to 30 odd million Igbos in a 'Biafra'.

Go and ask the Igbo big shots like INNOSON or Chief Allen Onyema , the Air Peace of CEO if they want Biafra.

They will KICK you out of their office.

I've seen their interviews.

They are all Nigerian PATRIOTS.

NATIONALISTS.

If YOU were in their shoes, and owned a business that spanned or served the entire nation, you would not entertain any idea of Nigeria ''dividing''.

That's just two Igbo business magnates I mentioned. But there are literally THOUSANDS of them if not millions!

They have a stake in Nigeria.

So if I were you, I will stop wasting my years fantasizing about something that won't happen.

You are a NIgerian.

He made sense in every word of it... if only You can read, process and understand. Very simple

helinues:
Wetin this one dey talk.

Igbolabi

Kushites:
■ YOU are the one exaggerating these sentiments. Blowing them out of all proportion. 100,000 people protesting in Kano is about enough to fill up the National stadium in Abuja. Hardly 230 million Nigerians.
Secondly, Nigeria is far from being the only country where people fantasize about seceding. But it's just that. HOT AIR. FANTASY. Loose talk.
Here is a list of secessionist groups around the world: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_separatist_movements_in_North_America
There are literally HUNDREDS of them. They are in France, Holland, Denmark, Australia, Indonesia, Trinidad, New Zealand, Canada, Mexico, Haiti and more. In America there are at least 15 active secessionist groups. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_active_separatist_movements_in_North_America#United_States In fact we are LEARNERS in Nigeria with regard to separatist sentiments. So secessionist sentiments are a very common phenomenon. Less than 1% of them achieve secession, and that's a generous figure. Probably more like 0.00001%. Here's a secret: No country ''breaks up'' unless its ELITE decide it's no longer in their interest to remain a single political unit. It doesn't happen by people shouting on the street, abusing the president online, doing 'sit at home', and all that nonsense. SO LONG AS THE ELITE are fine with Nigeria being NIGERIA, you can FORGET about Nigeria breaking up. If you try to force it, they will send in the army to crush you. The ELITE control the forces of coercion, NOT you or the masses on the street. The only sign you need that the ELITE have ZERO interest in Nigeria splintering is that NOT ONE MOTION FOR SECESSION has been brought before the National Assembly since the return to democracy in 1999.
NOTHING FROM THE SOUTH EAST. So called 'secessionist region'. Why? Because the Igbo ELITE are HAPPY TO BE IN NIGERIA. They KNOW they make more money selling to the NIGERIAN market of 230 million than they will ever make selling to 30 odd million Igbos in a 'Biafra'. Go and ask the Igbo big shots like INNOSON or Chief Allen Onyema , the Air Peace of CEO if they want Biafra. They will KICK you out of their office. I've seen their interviews. They are all Nigerian PATRIOTS. NATIONALISTS. If YOU were in their shoes, and owned a business that spanned or served the entire nation, you would not entertain any idea of Nigeria ''dividing''. So if I were you, I will stop wasting my years fantasizing about something that won't happen. You are a NIgerian.

No point dragging this issue further than we already have. The fact is some people wish for separation; the current president happens to be one of them and yes, countries can and do break up for different reasons. We recently saw Sudan do it less than 20 years ago. So, it would be daft/unintelligent to conclude without concrete evidence that it can never happen in the Nigerian case.

Morbeta11:
https://punchng.com/nigeria-a-collateral-damage-says-burna-boy/

Let more of these influential people in Nigeria speak up.

More than 200 million humans are burning up in a country, Nigeria, formed for the administrative convenience of the Colonial masters then.

The populations, positions and unshared value systems of the major ethnic groups in Nigeria unarguably deny nationhood to Nigeria. The magnitude of the centrifugal forces from these diverse Nigerian groups acting on Nigeria has wrecked the country. The far north states of Nigeria had since 1999 led the march for dissolution of Nigeria through their sidelining of the constitution of Nigeria to adopt unconstitutional Islamic sharia criminal justice system.
Sharia criminal justice system includes stoning blasphemous persons to death, stoning women to death for adultery and other obsolete but harsh punishment systems. The Fulani led the rest in the far north to adopt sharia criminal justice system in a multi religious society. Fulani also wouldn't accept the fact that cattle is no more reared by herdsmen wandering about in the bushes, as Fulani cows wreck havoc in the farms all over the country. Acute hunger in the land followed.
Bandits and kidnappers for ransome are offshoots of Boko Haram; the three groups have practically wrecked Nigeria. Boko Haram says that it's fighting for a Nigeria to be governed with Sharia criminal justice system. It's like the Taliban of Afghanistan.
No messiah of a leader can emerge from the extant political structure and governance system of Nigeria. Politicians from all divides are sure of their meals from revenues to the country, hence their feelings of all is well with Nigeria.
After the fall of the Berlin Wall, Europeans started to dissolve nearly all the countries of Europe made up of multi religious and multi ethnic groups. Nigeria's politicians need to save the humans in Nigeria by agreeing to dissolution of the most dysfunctional country called Nigeria.

Kobojunkieee:
No point dragging this issue further than we already have. The fact is some people wish for separation; the current president happens to be one of them and yes, countries can and do break up for different reasons. We recently saw Sudan do it less than 20 years ago. So, it would be daft/unintelligent to conclude without concrete evidence that it can never happen in the Nigerian case.

I never said secession cannot happen in Nigeria. I said it can only happen by ELITE CONSENSUS.

Sudan broke up into two nations by ELITE consensus following a bloody, intractable civil war in which over 2.5 million lives were lost.

The unity of the country became untenable in the eyes of the ELITE, and they agreed to part ways.

A civil war IS NOT about to break out in Nigeria.

We've been there, done that, and survived intact.

So forget about Nigeria breaking up.

helinues:
Wetin this one dey talk.

Igbolabi

Igbolabi wey get sense pass ur pa.pa and all his anc.estors conbined

Kushites:
■ I never said secession cannot happen in Nigeria. I said it can only happen by ELITE CONSENSUS. Sudan broke up into two nations by ELITE consensus following a bloody civil war in which over 2.5 million lives were lost.The unity of the country became untenable in the eyes of the ELITE, and they agreed to part ways. A civil war IS NOT about to break out in Nigeria. We've been there, done that, and survived intact. So forget about Nigerian breaking up.

Elites ke? I have Sudanese friends here and none of them have ever suggested the Elites played any part in the splitting of their country. You are the first person who has ever offered up such an explanation. You are free to hold that opinion though.

Burna boy just keep singing your songs and don’t let buju Banton gaslight you into throwing your career away. Ever since buju banton said afrobeats is rubbish because they sing about rubbish instead of singing about issues and uplifting Africa, ever since then burna has been gaslighted

First of all you don’t qualify to talk about Nigeria because I am sure you don’t pay taxes in Nigeria

Secondly these talking points of Nigeria being created is a dummy’s talking point. Every country in this world was put together and created by humans for business purposes at one point or the other. Take the USA for example ? They added Texas from Mexico and Hawaii recently to their landmass as a country and everything is fine. So nigerias problem is not the country created but the people inside that country are plagued by numerous demons , demons have found a comfortable home in that geographical region called Nigeria. We need demon slayers, the Orunmilas, to cleanse the whole land

In conclusion? Burna boy just keep quiet and stop trying to sound intelligent because you are not intelligent. You are just vomiting what you read somewhere on ipob page

chigo32:
U are a stupid fool, I blame lugard for joining me with a fool like you. Who said fuel subside is gone on his first day in office without planning , is it the State governors (no). Who made some bad economics policies causing dollars rise against naira, is it the State governors (no). Who devalue naira, is it the State governors (no). Who increased tax in every area, even custom duty of 40 fit container is 20 million naira, is it the State governors (no). The president is the commander chief of Army forces but there is insecurity, kidnapping, killing everywhere. There is corruption everywhere but the president promised to kill corruption but he increase rate of corruption. So think very well before you open ur rubbish mouth to talk

Look at this compound dunce.

Your corrupt Pandora demigod Peter Obi promised to remove fuel subsidies ''ON DAY ONE'' if he was elected. So he had no ''plan'' either.

He also promised ''a religious war daddy'', which would have caused an imbeci.le like you to be in a REFUGEE CAMP by now, collectIng food aid from the International Red Cross, assuming you're actually alive.

So kindly STFU and go do something useful with your useless IPOB hate-filled life.

Worthless shiit.

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mrvitalis:
If our celebrities pay the Tax they are meant to pay they won't be this silent

The tax they don't pay is a bribe to them

You want to tell me burner boy makes 80 million dollars and pays 40 million dollars as tax he would keep quiet like he is today?

No... I have always said it Tax would fix every problem we have in Nigeria

If he kept quiet according to you, would you be on this thread?

kestolove95:
People that smoke weed make sense more than people that don't smoke weed... Tinubu is d only person that smoke and don't make sense

Either you nor Burna is making sense sir because Nigeria is not the only multi tribal country that was joined together by the British. The US was also joined together by the British even China, India and South Africa were all multi racial and tribal countries and they are doing well.
Citizens blaming the Brit for our failure is a country is just a reflection of our irresponsibility that contributed to our failure.
The problem of Nigeria is greed and that begins from each citizens down to the government, just imagine how every retailers are using inflation as an opportunity to exthort buyers. Bottom line most of us Nigerians are as
good as our bad leaders. Even Burna how significantly has he used his wealth to help his community, just take a look at how Sadio Mane has single handedly transform his community.
Just because it's coming out of a celeb doesn't mean that it makes sense

diamond68:
Burna boy just keep singing your songs and don’t let buju Banton gaslight you into throwing your career away. Ever since buju banton said afrobeats is rubbish because they sing about rubbish instead of singing about issues and uplifting Africa, ever since then burna has been gaslighted

First of all you don’t qualify to talk about Nigeria because I am sure you don’t pay taxes in Nigeria

Secondly these talking points of Nigeria being created is a dummy’s talking point. Every country in this world was put together and created by humans for business purposes at one point or the other. Take the USA for example ? They added Texas from Mexico and Hawaii recently to their landmass as a country and everything is fine. So nigerias problem is not the country created but the people inside that country are plagued by numerous demons , demons have found a comfortable home in that geographical region called Nigeria. We need demon slayers, the Orunmilas, to cleanse the whole land

In conclusion? Burna boy just keep quiet and stop trying to sound intelligent because you are not intelligent. You are just vomiting what you read somewhere on ipob page

If he doesn't pay taxes in Nigeria, how does that disqualify him from speaking on the issues plaguing Nigeria?

Has he said anything that is out of place?