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NaMe4:
But in the present system, the Legislative arm of government has representatives from same tribes; for instance Enugu State or Kano State people are represented at the center by their tribesmen, not someone from another tribe or even State for that matter.
What's stopping the people from removing these their tribesmen from office today?

In fact, it can be argued, regional governance in Nigeria of today may even have a worse outcome. Because same people who make up the 'political elite' and who most Nigerians, including 'intellectuals' aspire to become would hold on to power in such setup with a higher level of impunity, corruption and intimidation.

Imagine a State governor in this Nigeria being in charge of State police.

What would save Nigeria is a change in Orientation of an average Nigerian. Understanding values, dignity, equity, fairness and justice.
Once these are established, no unintelligent riffraff would dream of representing people at any level of governance all because of political or tribal affiliation.

But as long as we have multitudes of Nigerians within the Low socio-economic class who would feel entitled and fulfilled disregarding his compatriots on fuel queues, and collect bribes to open separate gates into the filling stations, or further extort them at the pumps, they have little or no justification pointing at those at the helm of affairs who only replicate their activities at a higher level.

It seems Nigeria is invariably heading for the rocks then.
National re-orientation is not easy to come by, it doesn't happen overnight. Moreover, I don't see the current crop of leaders in Nigeria championing it. They can't be living in opulence from the national treasury and would be asking the populace to endure hardship. Most poor men in Nigeria are waiting for their turn to "grab" their own share of the national cake. That's hypocrisy, and it is counterproductive. It can only take a miracle AKA God's intervention to bring about the type of national re-orientation you are asking for in Nigeria.

The Nigeria of today is highly polarized and divided along ethnic lines. Regional governments will be more effective in this era than it was in the past. It will be easier for groups like ACF, the Oduduwa group, the Ijaw group, Ohaneze, and even IPOB to exert influence on the regional governments than on the whole nation.

Arostar2023:
■ It seems Nigeria is invariably heading for the rocks then. National re-orientation is not easy to come by, it doesn't happen overnight. Moreover, I don't see the current crop of leaders in Nigeria championing it. They can't be living in opulence from the national treasury and would be asking the populace to endure hardship. Most poor men in Nigeria are waiting for their turn to "grab" their own share of the national cake. That's hypocrisy, and it is counterproductive. It can only take a miracle AKA God's intervention to bring about the type of national re-orientation you are asking for in Nigeria.
The Nigeria of today is highly polarized and divided along ethnic lines. Regional governments will be more effective in this era than it was in the past. It will be easier for groups like ACF, the Oduduwa group, the Ijaw group, Ohaneze, and even IPOB to exert influence on the regional governments than on the whole nation.

Stop propagating this lie!
Nigeria and Nigerians spent six years under regional rule and did not even move a finger to stop it from being abandoned altogether back in 1966. So why would you suggest the same solution at this point?

richiemcgold:
So how do we proffer solution to this collateral damage? Abi na like dis we go dey look?

By disintegrating.
Our major problem is the North. Let them have their own country. Too much of backwardness.

Without the contribution of the South . Nigeria would have been like Chad , somalia, Niger republic, Mali , Burkina Faso, Sudan .

Very useless region.

Kobojunkieee:
Stop propagating this lie!
Nigeria and Nigerians spent six years under regional rule and did not even move a finger to stop it from being abandoned altogether back in 1966. So why would you suggest the same solution at this point?

My answer is : The Nigeria of today is highly polarized and divided along ethnic lines. The fallout and the voting pattern observed during the last presidential election confirms that. Ethnic identity rules over national identity and interest in today's Nigeria. When Buhari was president, most of his key appointees were people from ethnic group. And we thought that he was been parochial. The current national leader/president has decided to toe same path.Even you, can't deny that.

Arostar2023:
■ My answer is : The Nigeria of today is highly polarized and divided along ethnic lines. The fallout and the voting pattern observed during the last presidential election confirms that. Ethnic identity rules over national identity and interest in today's Nigeria.
■ When Buhari was president, most of his key appointees were people from ethnic group. And we thought that he was been parochial. The current national leader/president has decided to toe same path.Even you, can't deny that.

The same was said of the union under regional government back in the first couple of years after independence. That was one of the primary reasons put forth by Ironsi for pushing for a unified government system. And given that the vast majority of Nigerians at the time, many of them belonging to the minority tribes who were mostly marginalized in that arrangement by the majority ethnic groups, never raised a finger over that decision then, what makes you think anything has changed since then?

2. Sure, sure! But still! What makes you think or believe that the institution of the same divided system that failed the vast majority of each region, in the beginning, would be a solution at this point in time?

Kobojunkieee:
The same was said of the union under regional government back in the first couple of years after independence. That was one of the primary reasons put forth by Ironsi for pushing for a unified government system. And given that the vast majority of Nigerians at the time, many of them belonging to the minority tribes who were mostly marginalized in that arrangement by the majority ethnic groups, never raised a finger over that decision then, what makes you think anything has changed since then?

2. Sure, sure! But still! What makes you think or believe that the institution of the same divided system that failed the vast majority of each region, in the beginning, would be a solution at this point in time?

It's my suggested solution based on where Nigeria is today in her national development. Today is different from the 1960s. A lot has changed since then. Even the so called ethnic minorities are now more vocal than ever. The Ijaw pressure groups of today are different from that of the 1960s and the same is applicable to other minorities. Nigerians are now more politically aware more than ever. It's only the federal that's frustrating people. Imo State in people had an unpopular governor imposed on them by the Supreme Court (that's indirectly controlled by the presidency) and this is just an example...granted that the politicians will try to have their way, as usual ,but they will be more easily dealt with at the regional levels than the federal.

Arostar2023:
■ It's my suggested solution based on where Nigeria is today in her national development. Today is different from the 1960s. A lot has changed since then. Even the so called ethnic minorities are now more vocal than ever. The Ijaw pressure groups of today is different from that of the 1960s and the same is applicable to other minorities.
■ Nigerians are now more politically aware more than ever. It's only the federal that's frustrating people. Imo State has an unpopular governor imposed on them by the Supreme Court and this is just an example...

They are vocal probably because they expect they have a voice in the democratic system. Those voices may have been silenced in the 1960s and all through the military era of the nation. But what does their being vocal now afford them any different from that which was the case back during the failed regional government periods of the 1960s?
Here's an example of what is happening in Nigeria to this day, by the way.

bkmedia:
■ Protest letters from stakeholders have flooded the All Progressives Congress, APC, in Imo State over alleged imposition of aspirants and violation of zoning arrangement by party chieftains ahead of the party’s local government primaries.
In one of such cases, some stakeholders of the party from Ohaji/ Egbema LGA under the aegis of Ohaji Consultative Forum (OCF) staged a protest to the government house over an alleged violation of zoning arrangement between Ohaji and Egbema blocks.
The group accused a former federal lawmaker, Nana GoodLuck Opiah of trying to drag the Chairmanship position of the Council to his Egbema block, an allegation he has denied.
The group in their protest letter signed by its President, Victor Kelvin Amadi, which was received by the Chief of Staff to the Governor, Nnamdi Anyaehie, said that it was the turn of Ohaji block to produce the next Chairman of the Council.
They argued that Egbema Block had continuously occupied the position since 2019 and that the current Sole Administrator of the Council is from Egbema.

What makes you think that dividing Nigeria today will solve something like the above?

2. Are they really, that is more politically aware? If so, why hasn't there been a call for the impeachment of this governor that was imposed on the Imolites by the Supreme Court?

Kobojunkieee:
They are vocal probably because they expect they have a voice in the democratic system. Those voices were pretty much missing back in the 1960s and all though even the military regime. What does their being vocal now afford them any different from what they had back during the failed regional government periods of the 1960s?

2. Are they really, that is more politically aware? If so, why hasn't there been a call for the impeachment of this governor that was imposed on the Imolites by the Supreme Court?

The people are helpless. Coming out to protest is suicidal as you know. The people in the state house of assembly are the stooges of the governor. What can the people do? They can't even hold their leaders accountable, in any way.The average Nigerian doesn't believe in Nigeria, that's for sure. People identify with their ethnic groups more than the nation. People will be more ready to die for their "ethnic group" than for Nigeria. The minority ethnic groups will surely form an alliance and thrive too. This is all about interests.

Arostar2023:
■ The people are helpless. Coming out to protest is suicidal as you know. The people in the state house of assembly are the stooges of the governor. What can the people do? They can't even hold their leaders accountable, in any way.The average Nigerian doesn't believe in Nigeria, that's for sure. People identify with their ethnic groups more than the nation. People will be more ready to die for their "ethnic group" than for Nigeria. The minority ethnic groups will surely form an alliance and thrive too. This is all about interests.

Really? 😂😂😂😂😂

There are over 250 ethnic groups in Nigeria, so how exactly do we get people motivated along those lines... dying for their particular ethnic group?

Kobojunkieee:
Really? 😂😂😂😂😂

There are over 250 ethnic groups in Nigeria, so how exactly do we get people motivated along those lines... dying for their particular ethnic group?

Hmm, it's theoretically possible anyway. Of course, we just won't rush into creating regional governments without due consultations, legislation and agreements. Every minority ethnic group in Nigeria has something to offer and die for. The northern groups have their solid minerals and arable land while the folks in the south are richly endowed with "oil"

Arostar2023:
■ Hmm, it's theoretically possible anyway. Of course, we just won't rush into creating regional governments without due consultations, legislation and agreements. Every minority ethnic group in Nigeria has something to offer and die for. The northern groups have their solid minerals and arable land while the folks in the south are richly endowed with "oil"

Nonsense! You have yet to make a cogent argument for why Nigeria should return to a governmental system that failed it in the past— a system that only revealed the level of division that truly exists among all the minority tribes in each region. Yet you still feel it should happen anyway? Don't you see the ridiculousness of what you say? It almost seems you are just obsessed with this idea and have lost touch with even reality itself.

Kobojunkieee:
Nonsense! You have yet to make a cogent argument for why Nigeria should return to a governmental system that failed it in the past— a system that only revealed the level of division that truly exists among all the minority tribes in each region. Yet you still feel it should happen anyway? Don't you see the ridiculousness of what you say? It almost seems you are just obsessed with this idea and have lost touch with even reality itself.

So far, my suggestion on the way forward is more practicable and realistic than yours. I understand that there are a lot of intricacies to governance in Africa, with many conflicting interests. And as I have been saying, the Nigeria of today is different from that of the 1960s. The fact that regionalism didn’t work then does not mean it won’t work today. Nigeria has evolved. Ethnic identity reigns supreme. Regionalism is what Nigeria needs today

Arostar2023:
■ So far, my suggestion on the way forward is more practicable and realistic than yours. I understand that there are a lot of intricacies to governance in Africa, with many conflicting interests. And as I have been saying, the Nigeria of today is different from that of the 1960s.
■ The fact that regionalism didn’t work then does not mean it won’t work today. Nigeria has evolved. Ethnic identity reigns supreme. Regionalism is what Nigeria needs today

I truly don't understand how people who reason as you do process things at all. How can a solution that failed the people in the past be considered a practical solution when nothing has changed in all of that time to show this?

You say that minority people have a voice at this point but conveniently ignore the fact that it is all a result of them living in the democratic system of today. And then you follow it up by suggesting they are dragged back into that system which denied them their voice and left them marginalized. Are you people for real?

2. Ethnic identity also held supreme back in the 1960s. Let's not attempt to rewrite things abeg! In the 1960s, minority ethnic groups had no voice because their voices were mostly stifled by the majority ethnic groups in the various regions. This was what led to the eventual dissolution of the regional government in Nigeria as ethnic tensions and violence in some cases(the north and some parts of the south) had become the order of the day. The reason regionalism cannot work today has to do with the fact that nothing of what led to its failure has changed. Nigeria itself may have changed but that has not changed at all.

So, please go back to your thinking box and work on coming up with a more cogent reason for this argument of yours or abandon it entirely abeg!

Kobojunkieee:
I truly don't understand how people who reason as you do process things at all. How can a solution that failed the people in the past be considered a practical solution when nothing has changed in all of that time to show this?

You say that minority people have a voice at this point but conveniently ignore the fact that it is all a result of them living in the democratic system of today. And then you follow it up by suggesting they are dragged back into that system which denied them their voice and left them marginalized. Are you people for real?

2. Ethnic identity also held supreme back in the 1960s. Let's not attempt to rewrite things abeg! In the 1960s, minority ethnic groups had no voice because their voices were mostly stifled by the majority ethnic groups in the various regions. This was what led to the eventual dissolution of the regional government in Nigeria as ethnic tensions and violence in some cases(the north and some parts of the south) had become the order of the day. The reason regionalism cannot work today has to do with the fact that nothing of what led to its failure has changed. Nigeria itself may have changed but that has not changed at all.

So, please go back to your thinking box and work on coming up with a more cogent reason for this argument of yours or abandon it entirely abeg!

I beg leave to disagree with you. Nigeria has never been as divided as it is today in its history. Saying that ethnic identity held sway in the past is not entirely correct. Of course, the three major ethnic blocs in Nigeria have the population and have always drowned out the voice of the minority ethnic groups. This will remain so until legislation is made to cater for all in the scheme of things, irrespective of the type of government we choose to adopt.

Nigeria has been experimenting with political systems over the years, and a lot has been learned. I advocate for regional governments based on my earlier argument that Nigeria is highly polarized today, more than ever before.

Arostar2023:
■ I beg leave to disagree with you. Nigeria has never been as divided as it is today in its history. Saying that ethnic identity held sway in the past is not entirely correct.
■ Of course, the three major ethnic blocs in Nigeria have the population and have always drowned out the voice of the minority ethnic groups. This will remain so until legislation is made to cater for all in the scheme of things, irrespective of the type of government we choose to adopt.
■ Nigeria has been experimenting with political systems over the years, and a lot has been learned. I advocate for regional governments based on my earlier argument that Nigeria is highly polarized today, more than ever before.

1. That statement(in bold) does not make any sense at all.

2. Since 1999 there are been several legislations to this end. But guess why they are largely ignored even today? Because the major tribes remained concerned only about themselves disregarding the voice and needs of the minority still. The good in the current arrangement for the minority is that now and then they get to send one of their own to the National assembly and house and also to the state assembly and house. That at least helps ensure that some well-needed funds make it down to them even with them being mostly marginalized.

These groups didn't have that under regional government or during the Milteray era of past years. So, your claim that it is irrespective of the type of government is bullsheet and you know this very well but somehow don't care to be honest about even this.

3. Spoken like one of your many politicians— all of them bloody arse liars!

Kobojunkieee:
1. That statement(in bold) does not make any sense at all.

2. Since 1999 there are been several legislations to this end. But guess why they are largely ignored even today? Because the major tribes remained concerned only about themselves disregarding the voice and needs of the minority still. The good in the current arrangement for the minority is that now and then they get to send one of their own to the National assembly and house and also to the state assembly and house. That at least helps ensure that some well-needed funds make it down to them even with them being mostly marginalized.

These groups didn't have that under regional government or during the Milteray era of past years. So, your claim that it is irrespective of the type of government is bullsheet and you know this very well but somehow don't care to be honest about even this.

3. Spoken like one of your many politicians— all of them bloody arse liars!

I agree with you on this, but not on the part about me speaking like them oO. I refuse to identify with them.

Now, coming to regional governments and the interests of ethnic minorities, there will be a legislative assembly of sorts, where every interest group will be represented. Also, aside from the overall leader of the regional government, there will be subdivisions where everyone will have the opportunity to elect grassroots leaders akin to the local government chairmen of today. Let's assume that Edo State is lumped together with the SW. Edo as a subdivision of the region will of course elect their own leaders. And who knows, they also can throw up a charismatic leader that can be widely accepted by all in the region. But like in all democracies, it’s always a game of numbers

Arostar2023:
■ I agree with you on this, but not on the part about me speaking like them oO. I refuse to identify with them.
■ Now, coming to regional governments and the interests of ethnic minorities, there will be a legislative assembly of sorts, where every interest group will be represented. Also, aside from the overall leader of the regional government, there will be subdivisions where everyone will have the opportunity to elect grassroots leaders akin to the local government chairmen of today. Let's assume that Edo State is lumped together with the SW.
■ Edo as a subdivision of the region will of course elect their own leaders. And who knows, they also can throw up a charismatic leader that can be widely accepted by all in the region. But like in all democracies, it’s always a game of numbers

1. Most every Nigerian whose report I have read on this regional government bullsheet not only seems removed from the reality of things for those who are from the minority ethnic groups in Nigeria(both back then and now) but they also all sound so much like politicians that what is clear is that the status quo is bound to continue at a more magnified level if the regional governmental system with the 3 major tribes leading were approved even today. undecided

2. In 2010, an Ijaw man was able to find his way to the presidency, thanks to the maneuverings of Obasanjo. Can such a thing happen if the South East were to get its demand for regional government today? You and I know very well the answer to that. undecided

Laws only work when they are implemented. As it is most of our laws in Nigeria are not implemented and corruption has pretty much become the order of the day. And this is all with three of the major tribes to hold the system accountable. You and I know very well that in a case where there is only one major tribe overseeing the implementation of the legislature— that is what regional government presents —, the situation would be a whole lot worse than we have it today. So, stop trying to trick yourself! undecided

3. For the past 25 years in Abia State, pretty much all of the governors in the state have been produced from the Ngwa tribe. Do you think someone from Isiukwuato or even Umunneochi would have a better chance if the regional government were instead installed? undecided

There are over 250 ethnic groups in Nigeria, the vast majority of them are minority groups who gain nothing but being a part of the regional government. The Tivs in Benue for instance have never had one of their own as state governor in Benue State. They have hope that someday they will get their turn through one of the ministerial slots or maybe a party like APC. One thing they will not want to do, however, is lock themselves up in any particular regional agreement with only one of the major tribes in Nigeria. Why? Because history has shown them that that is a bad arrangement for their tribe. undecided
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Kushites:
Don't mind these stupid Nigerians.

Miserable idiots.

Somebody from Rivers or Enugu will be moaning about ''NIGERIA'', meanwhile his state governor is banking their monthly allocation, and buying mansions in America.

But no. The problem is not the governor and his thieving state colleagues.

The problem is ''NIGERIA''.

People in SOKOTO.

''NIGERIA'' made your state governor, who you all trooped out to vote for, to loot your state funds.

IDIOTS.

BURNA SHOULD GO AND FCK HIMSELF.

TODAY, over 60% of national revenues are shared out to the STATES.

They are richer than the FG.

The states are largely autonomous now.

They can generate their own electricity.

Harness their own resources.

Zamfara state today is harnessing its gold, and has gold mines where anybody can go and do business.

I saw an Igbo man there doing gold business freely.

Lagos state is building railway lines everywhere.

What is stopping each state from doing the same and harnessing their resources to generate more revenue?

NOTHING.

But these IDIOTS will ignore their useless state governments to blame ''NIGERIA'' for all their problems.

USELESS THINGS..

Stop fooling yourself

Kobojunkieee:
1. Most every Nigerian whose report I have read on this regional government bullsheet not only seems removed from the reality of things for those who are from the minority ethnic groups in Nigeria(both back then and now) but they also all sound so much like politicians that what is clear is that the status quo is bound to continue at a more magnified level if the regional governmental system with the 3 major tribes leading were approved even today.

2. In 2010, an Ijaw man was able to find his way to the presidency, thanks to the maneuverings of Obasanjo. Can such a thing happen if the South East were to get its demand for regional government today? You and I know very well the answer to that.

Laws only work when they are implemented. As it is most of our laws in Nigeria are not implemented and corruption has pretty much become the order of the day. And this is all with three of the major tribes to hold the system accountable. You and I know very well that in a case where there is only one major tribe overseeing the implementation of the legislature— that is what regional government presents —, the situation would be a whole lot worse than we have it today. So, stop trying to trick yourself!

3. For the past 25 years in Abia State, pretty much all of the governors in the state have been produced from the Ngwa tribe. Do you think someone from Isiukwuato or even Umunneochi would have a better chance if the regional government were instead installed?

There are over 250 ethnic groups in Nigeria, the vast majority of them are minority groups who gain nothing but being a part of the regional government. The Tivs in Benue for instance have never had one of their own as state governor in Benue State. They have hope that someday they will get their turn through one of the ministerial slots or maybe a party like APC. One thing they will not want to do, however, is lock themselves up in any particular regional agreement with only one of the major tribes in Nigeria. Why? Because history has shown them that that is a bad arrangement for their tribe.
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Wether we like it or not, Democracy is all about numbers. Nobody we just hand over leadership to you for been in the minority - unless there is a provision in the law for that. The majority will always carry the day. Through excellence, consultations and building of bridges, a man from a minority group can gain acceptance and rule over the majority in a democracy.

I agree with you that whatever ill that plague Nigeria at the national level today will invariably want to replicate itself at the regional levels. But mind you,bmore will be at stake and people's voices will be more amplified. And minority groups will be more visible.

@Arostar2023, here's something you should recall also happened when the regional government idea was scrapped.

Nigeria's modern police force has its origins in the colonial period, when the British established a police force to maintain law and order and protect their interests. The first police force was a 30-man Consular Guard created in Lagos in 1861. The guard was expanded to 600 men in 1891 and renamed the Hausa Police, and then again in 1879 to the Hausa Constabulary. As the British expanded their control over the country, they established other police forces, including the Niger Coast Constabulary in Calabar in 1894 and the Royal Niger Company Constabulary in Lokoja in 1888. In the early 1900s, the British reorganized these forces into two major police forces: the Northern Nigeria Police Force and the Southern Nigeria Police Force.
During the colonial period, police were often associated with local governments and were expected to be familiar with the local culture and language. However, some say that police forces established during this time have been repressive, corrupt, and inefficient. In 1966, the military took over the government and centralized and militarized the police force.

The Local/State police system which was used by the majority leaders to repress the minority were also scrapped.

Arostar2023:
■ Wether we like it or not, Democracy is all about numbers. Nobody we just hand over leadership to you for been in the minority - unless there is a provision in the law for that. The majority will always carry the day. Through excellence, consultations and building of bridges, a man from a minority group can gain acceptance and rule over the majority in a democracy.
I agree with you that whatever ill plague Nigeria at the national level today will invariably want to replicate itself at the regional levels. But mind you, more will be at stake and people's voices will be more amplified. And minority groups will be more visible.

Through the course of this discussion, I gave you at least 2 examples— from Abia and Benue— showcasing how even today minority groups remain invisible at the regional level n in the Southeast, yet you are trying to argue that adopting regional governmental system knowing all of that would magically resolve such problems. 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Nigerians ehn! 😂😂😂

Kobojunkieee:
Through the course of this discussion, I gave you at least 2 examples— from Abia and Benue— showcasing how even today minority groups remain invisible at the regional level n in the Southeast, yet you are trying to argue that adopting regional governmental system knowing all of that would magically resolve such problems. 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Nigerians ehn! 😂😂😂

You have not proffered any workable solution to the problem of the Nigeria of today and you want me to abandon my idea of the creation of regional governments as the way forward for Nigeria.

Of the two examples you gave, I am most familiar with Abia State’s case. Abians from all the senatorial zones have, at many times, tried to change the status quo but have always had their will subverted by the Nigerian nation through INEC. The last governor of Abia State was a stooge of the outgoing governor, and Otti, the present governor, though identifying as an Ngwa person, is really from a minority group (Arochukwu). He was overwhelmingly voted for by all and sundry. Ngwa people didn’t use their numbers to impose anyone on Abians.

Considering where we are today as a nation, of all the things we could adopt and do to make Nigeria work, I believe that regionalism is the best option for us. The minority groups invariably would have to align with each other or anyone else for things to work for them. They will be better off in a regional government than in the present system Nigeria is operating.

Arostar2023:
■ You have not proffered any workable solution to the problem of the Nigeria of today and you want me to abandon my idea of the creation of regional governments as the way forward for Nigeria.
■ Of the two examples you gave, I am most familiar with Abia State’s case. Abians from all the senatorial zones have, at many times, tried to change the status quo but have always had their will subverted by the Nigerian nation through INEC. The last governor of Abia State was a stooge of the outgoing governor, and Otti, the present governor, though identifying as an Ngwa person, is really from a minority group (Arochukwu). He was overwhelmingly voted for by all and sundry. Ngwa people didn’t use their numbers to impose anyone on Abians.
■ Considering where we are today as a nation, of all the things we could adopt and do to make Nigeria work, I believe that regionalism is the best option for us. The minority groups invariably would have to align with each other or anyone else for things to work for them. They will be better off in a regional government than in the present system Nigeria is operating.

1. Regional Governmental system shouldn't even be on the table as far as a possible solution is what I have tried to make you see. As for my preference for an alternative solution, any solution that minimizes the place of minority groups in the country should not be on the table at all - not even for any reason.

2. Come on! 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Do you wish to pin the fault on INEC? Do you believe INEC is the reason why all of the governors in the last 25 years have been from the Ngwa majority in Abia State? That's hilarious! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Alex Otti is from IsialaNgwa https://www.alexotti.com/about-us/

3. Any third party reading through this entire conversation of ours would realize you are far from genuine in your agitation for regional government. Why do I say that? Well, presented here in clear text are more than enough valid reasons in Nigeria today against such an idea as a solution forward. You holding firm to this desire for regional, without being able to provide even a single pro in favor of it for well over 2 pages means 1 or 2 things about you.
↪ You are either from one of the three majority tribes and have high hopes to benefit greatly from the arrangement
↪ and/or you are one of the many Nigerians who were indoctrinated into these ideas by those around you or before you.

43Ronin:
U celebrities should start talking. People are suffering. Every other company country put together by UK found their way out of the contraption except Nigeria
E.g India split into India/Pakistan/Bangladesh/Nepal. Rhodesia- zimbabwe/botswana/angola; congo- DRC/Congo

Though you make sense but your argument falls flat when you consider other entities like ours that's still together eg. Canada and Australia.
I prefer a strong Nigeria to weak balkanized nations that will emerge from its dissolution. For instance In the former East India company, it's only India that's a strong country and others still depend heavily on it economically, you wouldn't want to live in bangladesh or Nepal or even Pakistan
Or is it in former Rhodesia? Many states in Nigeria are far better than those former Cecil Rhodes plantations

Kobojunkieee:
1. Regional Governmental system shouldn't even be on the table as far as a possible solution is what I have tried to make you see. As for my preference for an alternative solution, any solution that minimizes the place of minority groups in the country should not be on the table at all - not even for any reason.

2. Come on! 😂😂😂😂😂😂

Do you wish to pin the fault on INEC? Do you believe INEC is the reason why all of the governors in the last 25 years have been from the Ngwa majority in Abia State? That's hilarious! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Alex Otti is from IsialaNgwa https://www.alexotti.com/about-us/

3. Any third party reading through this entire conversation of ours would realize you are far from genuine in your agitation for regional government. Why do I say that? Well, presented here in clear text are more than enough valid reasons in Nigeria today against such an idea as a solution forward. You holding firm to this desire for regional, without being able to provide even a single pro in favor of it for well over 2 pages means 1 or 2 things about you.
↪ You are either from one of the three majority tribes and have high hopes to benefit greatly from the arrangement
↪ and/or you are one of the many Nigerians who were indoctrinated into these ideas by those around you or before you.

Firstly, Alex Otti is an Aro man whose father settled in Ngwaland decades ago. Everyone in Abia State knows that and it was one of the things that those canvassing for an Ngwa governor used against him when he contested against Okezie Ikpeazu, whom they believe was a true born Ngwa person. His Aro (Abia North) heritage was also what made him all the more appealing to the majority of Abians.

As for the merits of regional system of government, governance will be easier and people will be able to hold elected officials accountable. The issue of tribalism that has been the very bane of our existence as a nation, in recent times will be mitigated. I didn't say that it will cease to exist, no, it would only be more manageable. It will be easier and more practicable for a Tiv man to hold the president or governor of the Middle-belt region accountable than for him to hold accountable the president of the federal republic of Nigeria.

Arostar2023:
■ Firstly, Alex Otti is an Aro man whose father settled in Ngwaland decades ago. Everyone in Abia State knows that and it was one of the things that those canvassing for an Ngwa governor used against him when he contested against Okezie Ikpeazu, whom they believe was a true born Ngwa person. His Aro (Abia North) heritage was also what made him all the more appealing to the majority of Abians.
■ As for the merits of regional system of government, governance will be easier and people will be able to hold elected officials accountable. The issue of tribalism that has been the very bane of our existence as a nation, in recent times will be mitigated. I didn't say that it will cease to exist, no, it would only be more manageable. It will be easier and more practicable for a Tiv man to hold the president or governor of the Middle-belt region accountable than for him to hold accountable the president of the federal republic of Nigeria.

The man's own website states that he is an Ngwa man. This is a man who switched parties in 2022 — went from APC to LP —so that he might win the election. This makes me believe his claim and not the stories you are telling me of him not being a Ngwa man.

2. There is no evidence to this day that any of these have been mitigated at the regional level in our times meaning that all these claims of yours are not based on facts but make belief, something I know you are aware of too.

Kobojunkieee:
The man's own website states that he is an Ngwa man. This is a man who switched parties in 2022 — went from APC to LP —so that he might win the election. This makes me believe his claim and not the stories you are telling me of him not being a Ngwa man.

2. There is no evidence to this day that any of these have been mitigated at the regional level in our times meaning that all these claims of yours are not based on facts but make belief, something I know you are aware of too.

3. To show how impactful, pressure groups would be on regional governments. Consider the impact of IPOB on the South East of Nigeria. Also remember MEND and how much pressure the exerted on the federal government that led to amnesty for ex militants...

1. Ask any Abia State person you know about Alex Otti's heritage. He is a naturalized Ngwa man, originally from Arochukwu, in Abia North senatorial zone.

2. Yes, my idea/position may sound utopian and naive to the politically suave. But it is the most viable option for Nigerians, at a time like this. Also, you may ask around and you will discover that majority of Nigerians support my stance and point of view. Remember this is democracy, majority carry the day

mrvitalis:
Sometimes reason before you type

If government can effectively tax n steal it why are they not doing it.

Human reasoning is different, there is reason America n Europe done deduct your tax automatically they make u withdraw n pay it.. You can't steal such money n walk away

American creates path for people to succeed but Nigeria you hustle and bribe ur way to succeed.
When you do they expect u to pay and they will embezzel it. Tax in Nigeria should be of u wish.

The collateral damaged country gave immense wealth, fame, fortune and global acceptance and recognition, but you still want us to believe that the same country is a collateral damaged country and shouldn't exist.

I don't know why it's always hard for these over bloated ego and ungrateful people to use their platform to inspire, help and promote a better Nigeria.

There are countries facing all manner of hardships and social problems, but you don't see their citizens both successful and poor abuse, trash, denigrate and rubbish their country.

It's really sad.

Difrent:
Though you make sense but your argument falls flat when you consider other entities like ours that's still together eg. Canada and Australia.
I prefer a strong Nigeria to weak balkanized nations that will emerge from its dissolution. For instance In the former East India company, it's only India that's a strong country and others still depend heavily on it economically, you wouldn't want to live in bangladesh or Nepal or even Pakistan
Or is it in former Rhodesia? Many states in Nigeria are far better than those former Cecil Rhodes plantations

You do realise those Rhodesia states including India & Pakistan at the moment are way better than Nigeria right? Even Afghanistan is currently better than Nigeria economic wise. Nigeria is FUBAR at the moment you can't even compare. Remeber how we used to laugh at zimbabwe? Dude if you get a legit white-collar job in zimbabwe take it. You would save more

mrvitalis:
So why haven't we built them?
Smh

Exactly same reason you made this comment.