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Re: Africa’s Poverty Not An Act Of God — Obasanjo by Brendaniel: 10:40am On Aug 27, 2024
HydraFeeds:
1) chemicals that kill animals don’t destroy plants .

2) solar cctv is around 150k ,it’s a long term investment and will be calculated with other capitals .
Vigilante will serve as deterrent as there will be directives not to engage but to call for back up ,even in developed countries like USA ,they still used vigilantes.

3) there’s difference between fighting and seeking media attention ,in as much as someone like Igboho acted bravely ,he seeks media validation more than the real job and he’s digressing to Yoruba nation ,which no FG will support. Amotekun wins is more than their losses.

4) I’ve stated earlier that it depends on my position and that position is only for if I’m the village head .
That soldiers escorted herdsmen to flog village head doesn’t mean the same soldiers won’t escort village heads to flog herdsmen ,it boils down to how much you’re willing to pay and the people you know .

5) Igboho wasn’t attacked because he was attacking Fulani herdsmen but because of his separatist tendencies.

if you consider reality insulting then you have a long way to go . Nigeria history for instance,if you can mention one thing that’s world class and it’s accepted globally in our history then I will agree that my initial comment is insulting .

In US ,they face different challenges as well and most farmers have guns. Today ,I still watched a video of a U.S. farmer using stick to destroy a drone sent by his neighbor to his farm.

My comments have not defended and government policies or praise politicians,I simply encourage people to work harder and smarter for their own good because no one is coming to save them ,if you think otherwise,you must be suffering from PTSD.
So chemicals that killed cows would not also kill human beings and you want to sell the same crops to human beings?

See how you guys reason, the rest of your stuff is just trash...

You didn't even address the Issue of government taking sides with the herdsmen even up to flogging an Oba...

Read your while write up, you never held the government accountable for anything....

Ofcourse blame the people for everything and leave the government...

See how you guys reason....

The farmers that were killed in their farms were they not working harder or you feel you are better than them?
Re: Africa’s Poverty Not An Act Of God — Obasanjo by KingPure(m): 10:50am On Aug 27, 2024
May you receive the just reward for your comment against someone who barely know of your existence, experiences, and poor state of mind, nor responsible for them.


TableLeg:
Spot on OBJ.
People like Enoch Adeboye of Redeem Christian Church of God are duplicitous characters and a fraudulent religious leader.
Claiming Nigeria's problem is spiritual is gross deception. The same foolish man led protests against Jonathan, is it that he didnt know that time that Nigeria's problems were spiritual and not political?
Useless old man!
Re: Africa’s Poverty Not An Act Of God — Obasanjo by HydraFeeds(m): 11:23am On Aug 27, 2024
Brendaniel:
So chemicals that killed cows would not also kill human beings and you want to sell the same crops to human beings?

See how you guys reason, the rest of your stuff is just trash...

You didn't even address the Issue of government taking sides with the herdsmen even up to flogging an Oba...

Read your while write up, you never held the government accountable for anything....

Ofcourse blame the people for everything and leave the government...

See how you guys reason....

The farmers that were killed in their farms were they not working harder or you feel you are better than them?
going by your logic ,the chemicals that kill weed should keep the crop as well and if it doesn't kill the crops then such crops are bad for your consumption .

No government support herdsmen ,they only support breaking down of order and yes there are many herdsmen languishing in jail or being forced to pay for damages.

In this country ,anybody can hire soldiers and even DSS to carry out their biddings ,if herdsmen hire soldiers to intimidate Obas then such Oba should hire DSS to intimidate herdsmen .

I've addressed most of the issues you raised ,it's either you're retarded or you just want to deflect and pass blame to others .

The farmers being attacked are hard worker but not smart worker ,it's common sense anywhere in the world that if you have investments,you need to protect it by any means necessary.
Re: Africa’s Poverty Not An Act Of God — Obasanjo by OALandAgents: 11:38am On Aug 27, 2024
Some fun facts about Obasanjo:

Obasanjo is a man who gave away our oil rich Bakassi peninsula land to France / Cameroon.

He liquidated our national carrier airline, Nigeria Airways.

He sold Malubu oil block which was worth $1Tn ($1,000Bn ) to foreign oil companies for approx $1Bn.

He budget and collected $16Bn to provide us with light but the darkness increased.

He spent 8years but unable to complete a single notable mega infrastructure project.

Must of the insecurity and problems Nigeria is dealing with originated with his government who introduced the flawed 1999 constitution.

Obasanjo was an unmitigated tragedy!

Re: Africa’s Poverty Not An Act Of God — Obasanjo by TableLeg(m): 11:40am On Aug 27, 2024
KingPure:
May you receive the just reward for your comment against someone who barely know of your existence, experiences, and poor state of mind, nor responsible for them.
Onikuuuure, iwo ati Enoch Adeboye!
Religious zombie!
Re: Africa’s Poverty Not An Act Of God — Obasanjo by Brendaniel: 11:44am On Aug 27, 2024
HydraFeeds:
going by your logic ,the chemicals that kill weed should keep the crop as well and if it doesn't kill the crops then such crops are bad for your consumption .

No government support herdsmen ,they only support breaking down of order and yes there are many herdsmen languishing in jail or being forced to pay for damages.

In this country ,anybody can hire soldiers and even DSS to carry out their biddings ,if herdsmen hire soldiers to intimidate Obas then such Oba should hire DSS to intimidate herdsmen .

I've addressed most of the issues you raised ,it's either you're retarded or you just want to deflect and pass blame to others .

The farmers being attacked are hard worker but not smart worker ,it's common sense anywhere in the world that if you have investments,you need to protect it by any means necessary.
Go back and read my comment again, if you poison he farm to kill the cows, it means means the crops are now toxic and you have to destroy them yourself after killing the cows with it, if you don't understand something you ask questions.

How can you sell a poisoned crop to human beings, so you will destroy your whole investment because you want to kill cows?

See how you guys reason...

Are soldiers not a government body?

How can any person hire them for dirty work and you are comfortable with it ?

Look at way you guys reason now, is that how it is done Canada or UAE?

And you are not even ashamed to even say such, that is how much the government has failed to deliver good governance, it speaks volume on the kind of person you are, I still tell you again you are part of the problem why Africa is the way it is...


So in conclusion what you are trying to say is that everyone in Nigeria that died from insecurity due to herdsmen, banditry and terrorism died because they were stupid, not smart or did not put in enough measures to protect their investment?

So the doctor who came from abroad to invest in farming in Ogun state that was killed was stupid or not smart?

The local farmers who have been killd all over Nigeria who don't have millions to high vigilante or put in security cameras were not smart or were stupid?

That Chief Olu Falae that was kidnapped in his farm, he was also not smart and was also stupid too?

I can go on and on...

What of those that were simply just traveling going about their business that were killed by Fulani herdsmen were they also stupid and not smart?

3 Obas of Yoruba land were killed by Fulani herdsmen in Yoruba land while doing their leadership work travelling, are you also trying to say that they were stupid and not smart?
Re: Africa’s Poverty Not An Act Of God — Obasanjo by AmericanIdiot(m): 12:05pm On Aug 27, 2024
NkanuSon:
The enemies of the black race are the once presently ruling,they sell us for their selfish interests,eyes are now open and the inner enemies will meet their Waterloo very soon

Blacks are the worst set of people u should even think of toiling with
Black man na him own enemy🥲
Re: Africa’s Poverty Not An Act Of God — Obasanjo by Basicend: 12:20pm On Aug 27, 2024
OALandAgents:
Some fun facts about Obasanjo:

Obasanjo is a man who gave away our oil rich Bakassi peninsula land to France / Cameroon.

He liquidated our national carrier airline, Nigeria Airways.

He sold Malubu oil block which was worth $1Tn ($1,000Bn ) to foreign oil companies for approx $1Bn.

He budget and collected $16Bn to provide us with light but the darkness increased.

He spent 8years but unable to complete a single notable mega infrastructure project.

Must of the insecurity and problems Nigeria is dealing with originated with his government who introduced the flawed 1999 constitution.

Obasanjo was an unmitigated tragedy!
Can you count how many multinationals have closed shop and left Nigeria under the current govt of your lord?

Even the major federal govt asset for oil and gas, NNPCL has been captured partly in ownership by your lord. .

Can you imaging how many businesses in Nigeria have fold up since your lord took over? How many businesses are even making profit in Nigeria currently?

He has not used up to 15 months in power. . You can imagine what $billions will go by time he finishes.

Go and rest oga.
Re: Africa’s Poverty Not An Act Of God — Obasanjo by gudugudumeje: 12:21pm On Aug 27, 2024
Obasanjo and his human commodity trading business spread to other countries are the causes......
Re: Africa’s Poverty Not An Act Of God — Obasanjo by Krankhead: 12:33pm On Aug 27, 2024
Is an Act caused by Obasanjo himself
Re: Africa’s Poverty Not An Act Of God — Obasanjo by Krankhead: 12:35pm On Aug 27, 2024
Lovenorth:
I agree, it's an act of wickedness of politicians against their subjects
including Obasanjo himself. The man that had the opportunity twice yo be president of Nigeria and did nothing
Re: Africa’s Poverty Not An Act Of God — Obasanjo by HydraFeeds(m): 12:42pm On Aug 27, 2024
Brendaniel:
Go back and read my comment again, if you poison he farm to kill the cows, it means means the crops are now toxic and you have to destroy them yourself after killing the cows with it, if you don't understand something you ask questions.

How can you sell a poisoned crop to human beings, so you will destroy your whole investment because you want to kill cows?

See how you guys reason...

Are soldiers not a government body?

How can any person hire them for dirty work and you are comfortable with it ?

Look at way you guys reason now, is that how it is done Canada or UAE?

And you are not even ashamed to even say such, that is how much the government has failed to deliver good governance, it speaks volume on the kind of person you are, I still tell you again you are part of the problem why Africa is the way it is...


So in conclusion what you are trying to say is that everyone in Nigeria that died from insecurity due to herdsmen, banditry and terrorism died because they were stupid, not smart or did not put in enough measures to protect their investment?

So the doctor who came from abroad to invest in farming in Ogun state that was killed was stupid or not smart?

The local farmers who have been killd all over Nigeria who don't have millions to high vigilante or put in security cameras were not smart or were stupid?

That Chief Olu Falae that was kidnapped in his farm, he was also not smart and was also stupid too?

I can go on and on...

What of those that were simply just traveling going about their business that were killed by Fulani herdsmen were they also stupid and not smart?

3 Obas of Yoruba land were killed by Fulani herdsmen in Yoruba land while doing their leadership work travelling, are you also trying to say that they were stupid and not smart?
You need to check your knowledge box because a reasonable person knows that leaves are poisoned but not the tubers or cobs which will also be washed away by rainfall or have short time of potency . Another method used is animal dungs which is just to deter animals from eating it but not to kill them .

So you're saying that herdsmen hiring soldiers to beat up village head is legal but village head hiring soldiers to beat up herdsmen is illegal ? We all know hiring any armed forces is illegal but it's the reality we found ourselves. If anyone use armed forces to threaten you ,you too must use armed forces to retaliate. Simple as that .

Before you invest in any business or locality ,I believe a reasonable person must have done his or her survey to know what's on ground .

A friend invited me to invest in SE recently but I was reluctant because of several factors like insecurity and tribalism. Same happened when someone invited me to invest in Kaduna or when someone invited me to NE.
As a smart investor that won't want to lose his money or head ,I need to know what's on ground and if I have enough resources to protect my assets ,as a capitalist,I don't wait for any third person before I can do my thing .

Only an irresponsible person will not do anything because someone else doesn't do it for him .

And yes ,back to my initial comment ,it's people that become government, government don't fall from heaven . Therefore people are to be blamed for whatever policy the government made because it's people that become government.
Re: Africa’s Poverty Not An Act Of God — Obasanjo by frog12: 12:48pm On Aug 27, 2024
OBJ being honest. corruption don spoil AU. but no be okonjo e dey blow so shocked shocked
Re: Africa’s Poverty Not An Act Of God — Obasanjo by Kobojunkieee: 1:00pm On Aug 27, 2024
Major7:
I know quoting that verse will drag you out of your comfort zone😂,that’s too predictable. Less I forget,is true that you’re a girl 😳huh
Verse? So, what you are attempting to have us believe is the name Nigeria is contained in that book? Oi vey! shocked
Re: Africa’s Poverty Not An Act Of God — Obasanjo by Brendaniel: 1:02pm On Aug 27, 2024
HydraFeeds:
You need to check your knowledge box because a reasonable person knows that leaves are poisoned but not the tubers or cobs which will also be washed away by rainfall or have short time of potency . Another method used is animal dungs which is just to deter animals from eating it but not to kill them .

So you're saying that herdsmen hiring soldiers to beat up village head is legal but village head hiring soldiers to beat up herdsmen is illegal ? We all know hiring any armed forces is illegal but it's the reality we found ourselves. If anyone use armed forces to threaten you ,you too must use armed forces to retaliate. Simple as that .

Before you invest in any business or locality ,I believe a reasonable person must have done his or her survey to know what's on ground .

A friend invited me to invest in SE recently but I was reluctant because of several factors like insecurity and tribalism. Same happened when someone invited me to invest in Kaduna or when someone invited me to NE.
As a smart investor that won't want to lose his money or head ,I need to know what's on ground and if I have enough resources to protect my assets ,as a capitalist,I don't wait for any third person before I can do my thing .

Only an irresponsible person will not do anything because someone else doesn't do it for him .

And yes ,back to my initial comment ,it's people that become government, government don't fall from heaven . Therefore people are to be blamed for whatever policy the government made because it's people that become government.
o in conclusion what you are trying to say is that everyone in Nigeria that died from insecurity due to herdsmen, banditry and terrorism died because they were stupid, not smart or did not put in enough measures to protect their investment?

So the doctor who came from abroad to invest in farming in Ogun state that was killed was stupid or not smart?

The local farmers who have been killd all over Nigeria who don't have millions to high vigilante or put in security cameras were not smart or were stupid?

That Chief Olu Falae that was kidnapped in his farm, he was also not smart and was also stupid too?

I can go on and on...

What of those that were simply just traveling going about their business that were killed by Fulani herdsmen were they also stupid and not smart?

3 Obas of Yoruba land were killed by Fulani herdsmen in Yoruba land while doing their leadership work travelling, are you also trying to say that they were stupid and not smart?
Re: Africa’s Poverty Not An Act Of God — Obasanjo by Lovenorth: 1:03pm On Aug 27, 2024
Krankhead:
including Obasanjo himself. The man that had the opportunity twice yo be president of Nigeria and did nothing
He is also a politician
Re: Africa’s Poverty Not An Act Of God — Obasanjo by HydraFeeds(m): 1:09pm On Aug 27, 2024
Brendaniel:
o in conclusion what you are trying to say is that everyone in Nigeria that died from insecurity due to herdsmen, banditry and terrorism died because they were stupid, not smart or did not put in enough measures to protect their investment?

So the doctor who came from abroad to invest in farming in Ogun state that was killed was stupid or not smart?

The local farmers who have been killd all over Nigeria who don't have millions to high vigilante or put in security cameras were not smart or were stupid?

That Chief Olu Falae that was kidnapped in his farm, he was also not smart and was also stupid too?

I can go on and on...

What of those that were simply just traveling going about their business that were killed by Fulani herdsmen were they also stupid and not smart?

3 Obas of Yoruba land were killed by Fulani herdsmen in Yoruba land while doing their leadership work travelling, are you also trying to say that they were stupid and not smart?
Victims of kidnappings on the road are not the original topic .

The topic is based on farmers only and what should be done to prevent Fulani herdsmen atrocities.

The Obas are weak else no one will dare attack them and even if they're attacked ,their Oba friends ,people of the town they govern and their personal deterrents should have revenged .

No matter your status ,if Fulani herdsmen attacked you or your farm , you're stupid and weak . This is not to disparage the memory of Fulani herdsmen barbaric attacks victims but if you know you live among enemies ,the next thing for a wise man to do is to protect himself .

A farmer that can't hire vigilante ,buy gun ,form coalition with other farmers can poison his farm , spread animal dungs ,set trap and do other things he can think of to protect his assets .
Re: Africa’s Poverty Not An Act Of God — Obasanjo by Brendaniel: 1:35pm On Aug 27, 2024
HydraFeeds:
Victims of kidnappings on the road are not the original topic .

The topic is based on farmers only and what should be done to prevent Fulani herdsmen atrocities.

The Obas are weak else no one will dare attack them and even if they're attacked ,their Oba friends ,people of the town they govern and their personal deterrents should have revenged .

No matter your status ,if Fulani herdsmen attacked you or your farm , you're stupid and weak . This is not to disparage the memory of Fulani herdsmen barbaric attacks victims but if you know you live among enemies ,the next thing for a wise man to do is to protect himself .

A farmer that can't hire vigilante ,buy gun ,form coalition with other farmers can poison his farm , spread animal dungs ,set trap and do other things he can think of to protect his assets .
So why do we have security agencies if everyone can provide security for themselves?
Re: Africa’s Poverty Not An Act Of God — Obasanjo by Dsimmer:
Wetin you do about it while you were the President?

Same as Buhari, Jonathan, and the previous ones, especially the military governor such as Aguiyi Ironsi who sunk Nigeria into backwardness!

That being said, I actually expect Tinubu to be working towards restructuring like he promised.

Point is Nigeria can't continue in the same useless stupid setup without making steps towards restructuring which was the best highlight of the country. Tinubu can actually take steps towards it by viewing the country as 6 regional territories (NW, NE, NC, SS, SE, SW) while working towards the emancipation of each region.

For example, create at least one agricultural hub in each region. That's 6 agricultural hubs, considering the 6 regions. Ensure each agricultural hub comprises large scale mechanized farming combined with agro industries while also including animal husbandry in the hub for the aborigines in each region. This will actually solve a lot of problem at once for the country. It will increase Food supply, improve the economy while also tackling insecurity. It will also help the emancipation of each region for restructuring. This is actually the best way. Not distributing food relief which won't get to anyone and besides, distributing food relief is more or less wastage without much productivity. Why not create agricultural hub to provide food instead? That's productivity!
Re: Africa’s Poverty Not An Act Of God — Obasanjo by HydraFeeds(m): 2:34pm On Aug 27, 2024
Brendaniel:
So why do we have security agencies if everyone can provide security for themselves?
The job of security personnel is protect citizens but if they failed due to whatever reason,the next step is to protect oneself .
Re: Africa’s Poverty Not An Act Of God — Obasanjo by Brendaniel: 2:47pm On Aug 27, 2024
HydraFeeds:
The job of security personnel is protect citizens but if they failed due to whatever reason,the next step is to protect oneself .
So you agree the government have failed to protect farmers in Nigeria?
Re: Africa’s Poverty Not An Act Of God — Obasanjo by Major7: 3:23pm On Aug 27, 2024
Kobojunkieee:
Verse? So, what you are attempting to have us believe is the name Nigeria is contained in that book? Oi vey! shocked
Are you truly a lady,I’m curious to find out?
Re: Africa’s Poverty Not An Act Of God — Obasanjo by HydraFeeds(m): 3:51pm On Aug 27, 2024
Brendaniel:
So you agree the government have failed to protect farmers in Nigeria?
Yes .

Government taken from people like farmers .
Re: Africa’s Poverty Not An Act Of God — Obasanjo by frog12: 3:54pm On Aug 27, 2024
constitution is fraud. 6 zones is also fraud

Dsimmer:
Wetin you do about it while you were the President?

Same as Buhari, Jonathan, and the previous ones, especially the military governor such as Aguiyi Ironsi who sunk Nigeria into backwardness!

That being said, I actually expect Tinubu to be working towards restructuring like he promised.

Point is Nigeria can't continue in the same useless stupid setup without making steps towards restructuring which was the best highlight of the country. Tinubu can actually take steps towards it by viewing the country as 6 regional territories (NW, NE, NC, SS, SE, SW) while working towards the emancipation of each region.

For example, create at least one agricultural hub in each region. That's 6 agricultural hubs, considering the 6 regions. Ensure each agricultural hub comprises large scale mechanized farming combined with agro industries while also including animal husbandry in the hub for the aborigines in each region. This will actually solve a lot of problem at once for the country. It will increase Food supply, improve the economy while also tackling insecurity. It will also help the emancipation of each region for restructuring. This is actually the best way. Not distributing food relief which won't get to anyone and besides, distributing food relief is more or less wastage without much productivity. Why not create agricultural hub to provide food instead? That's productivity!
Re: Africa’s Poverty Not An Act Of God — Obasanjo by Brendaniel: 4:23pm On Aug 27, 2024
HydraFeeds:
Yes .

Government taken from people like farmers .
No, the government has failed because of people like you who don't want to hold them accountable and give excuses for them to not be accountable....
Re: Africa’s Poverty Not An Act Of God — Obasanjo by HydraFeeds(m): 4:26pm On Aug 27, 2024
Brendaniel:
No, the government has failed because of people like you who don't want to hold them accountable and give excuses for them to not be accountable....
The question I've asked you since but you failed to provide answer to is "who is the government" ?
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