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Re: Why Police Can't Track Kidnapper's Phone Calls by Iykenuwa(m): 3:51pm On Aug 31, 2024
"People in the National Assembly and Villa got hold of the platform and used it to track their enemies and mistresses."

That, beloved Nigerians, is the summary of the story.
Re: Why Police Can't Track Kidnapper's Phone Calls by Kam2021: 3:52pm On Aug 31, 2024
So nah mistresses our politicians were using the tracking system for?This one off me .Naija nah cruise. It's like it's the mistresses that are even enjoying Nigeria's wealth.
Re: Why Police Can't Track Kidnapper's Phone Calls by onuman: 3:53pm On Aug 31, 2024
nlfpmod:
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2024/08/why-our-security-cant-track-kidnappers-calls-investigation/
Why tracking kidnappers were not important beginning from Buhari's govt era in 2015:
Kidnappers, bandits, Boko Haram and armed Fulani herdsmen, as well as political and religious leaders in the 12 northern Nigeria sharia states share a common objective.
The common objective is getting a Nigeria to be governed with Sharia criminal justice system.

What is the big deal in purchase and maintenance of call tracking system?
Call tracking devices should have been provided to every senatorial district in Nigeria.
But govt would not provide it because it's expected that once Nigerians are weakened by these forces acting against them, it shall become easier and quicker to conduct a Talibanization of Nigeria to enforce a Nigeria to be governed with Sharia criminal justice system. Before the Taliban of Afghanistan fully struck, it used the same system being used now in Nigeria.
Re: Why Police Can't Track Kidnapper's Phone Calls by eniteden(m): 3:59pm On Aug 31, 2024
100s of kilometers? Nope CIA can track me and you with just our phone number.

They have Satellites up there dedicated to track even the movement of an Ant.

Apart from that, they have drones, once they track and get a location of Kidnappers or terrorist, they marked that area using Satellite imaging, then send Drones capable of detection any slight movement within that range. The drone can be there for days monitoring movement.

Then Troops are sent to circle that parameter, anyone that come out of that location is captured or killed.

Nigeria should lunch her own satellite and send their troops for trainings simple.

Beside there should be special promotion for those that risk their life in rescue operation plus a thousand bonus of their basic salary.

Pootle:
but CIA can track calls from 100s of kilometer away
Re: Why Police Can't Track Kidnapper's Phone Calls by BeigJawnson(m): 3:59pm On Aug 31, 2024
vanbonattel:
I took time to read the whole article, and as detailed as it is, it still points to what some people have been talking about, THE NEED FOE STATE POLICE.

There are many factors the article pointed out, like the priority of successive police administrators like the IGPs, they said after Arase left the force, other heads of police refused to prioritise technical tracking of crimes. This brings to the fore what the negligence of one head, who may be from a region that loves kidnapping can do to wreck havoc on another region that could have afforded the technology to install the tracking system in their own states or regions. But since everything is centrally controlled, the failure in Abuja will be repeated in Lagos.

If you give the chance to Anambra state government to control their own police postings, they will know who to place in control of Ogbaru, or Onitsha. A person who is well versed in the area, can pick out patterns and make interventions. But place a Sokoto man with his assistants in the top echelon of the police in Delta state, locals will wake up one day and witness crime, they won't know who the criminals and police are, because they speak the same language, look exactly the same, maybe interchange uniform and arms, and collaborate each others activities.

If you check very well, maybe an Ogun state man might have led the team to rescue the Emir of Gobir, a man whose highest crime stopping experience is just catching people who do ritual killings, then you send him to enter a thick forest and catch dare devil kidnappers from maybe Niger Republic etc, he has already failed. He doesn't understand the language or the culture.
I second your thought on this...

We copied Democratic system of government from the USA ... we didn't copy it well... This state police of a thing is what USA is using ...

You hear CHIGOGO POLICE DEPT.
NEW YORK POLICE DEPT and so on ... And FBI at the central ... Each state has its own Police department. But Nigeria, corrupt leaders are going against state police... Like you said, a man from that state will always know more of his state in the force.

And if they can't run state police, there is alternative, officers should only be posted to their state of origin and work in that state till retirement while been transferring from one local government to another in the same state of origin...

Many will even want to join the police force. Some one like me, I like to join the force right from childhood but how can I bee in Lagos and yet been transferred to the state I know no atom of?
Re: Why Police Can't Track Kidnapper's Phone Calls by Smartcitizen: 4:09pm On Aug 31, 2024
FreeStuffsNG:
Yinmu. Lagos State Police Command is not part of the reportedly analogue police commands. Since the days of Asiwaju Tinubu as our Governor, Policing in Lagos has always been reliant on technology. This is why we have been clamoring for state police in Lagos.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2024/07/lagos-billionaire-kidnappers-last-minute-conversation-before-they-struck-at-ladipo-2/amp/

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Re: Why Police Can't Track Kidnapper's Phone Calls by OKEIYIOKODU: 4:14pm On Aug 31, 2024
nlfpmod:
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2024/08/why-our-security-cant-track-kidnappers-calls-investigation/
Cock and story everyday. But the truth is that this APC government lack the will and strength to confront and solve any of the problems and challenges bedeviling the country,none of their campaign promises since 2915 APC government came to power they have been able to solve but rather the problems and challenges are becoming chronic and increasing out of portion. Everyone in the government is after his own share of national cake from the Presidency to his footmen.
Re: Why Police Can't Track Kidnapper's Phone Calls by OKEIYIOKODU: 4:14pm On Aug 31, 2024
nlfpmod:
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2024/08/why-our-security-cant-track-kidnappers-calls-investigation/
Cock and bull story everyday. But the truth is that this APC government lack the will and strength to confront and solve any of the problems and challenges bedeviling the country,none of their campaign promises since 2915 APC government came to power they have been able to solve but rather the problems and challenges are becoming chronic and increasing out of portion. Everyone in the government is after his own share of national cake from the Presidency to his footmen.
Re: Why Police Can't Track Kidnapper's Phone Calls by lexy2014: 4:16pm On Aug 31, 2024
vanbonattel:
Yes. Because with state police, the commitment will eliminate the negligence or corruption. Nobody will allow his state to be worse.
Really? So that means in the states of the federation, all forms of negligence and corruption has been eliminated....right?

Since you say "Nobody will allow his state to be worse", how are Nigerian states faring in terms of good governance, corruption and negligence?
Re: Why Police Can't Track Kidnapper's Phone Calls by Konquest: 4:19pm On Aug 31, 2024
nlfpmod:
https://www.vanguardngr.com/2024/08/why-our-security-cant-track-kidnappers-calls-investigation/
The writer of this article and the Editor that allowed the article to be published are ignorant of the current trends in crime and kidnappings or they just wanted to add sensationalism to his report.

It's a known fact that these kidnappers are now using satellite phones instead of cell phones which can easily be tracked through the IRT. So, there's a need for upgrades to the tracking system to pin point the coordinates of the kidnappers.

There's also the need for smaller drones and combat drones for aerial surveillance and attacks on the base of these criminals in the NOTORIOUSLY well-known crime spots. This would deter crimes and help to apprehend criminals. Period.
Re: Why Police Can't Track Kidnapper's Phone Calls by lexy2014: 4:19pm On Aug 31, 2024
BeigJawnson:
I second your thought on this...

We copied Democratic system of government from the USA ... we didn't copy it well... This state police of a thing is what USA is using ...

You hear CHIGOGO POLICE DEPT.
NEW YORK POLICE DEPT and so on ... And FBI at the central ... Each state has its own Police department. But Nigeria, corrupt leaders are going against state police... Like you said, a man from that state will always know more of his state in the force.

And if they can't run state police, there is alternative, officers should only be posted to their state of origin and work in that state till retirement while been transferring from one local government to another in the same state of origin...

Many will even want to join the police force. Some one like me, I like to join the force right from childhood but how can I bee in Lagos and yet been transferred to the state I know no atom of?
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State governments say they can't pay their workers decent minimum wage. How will they be able to fund state police?
Re: Why Police Can't Track Kidnapper's Phone Calls by rigid123: 4:31pm On Aug 31, 2024
Cock and bull story. Just make a comment against them or their Apc ogas, and see them track you to wherever you may think you are hiding across the world. Nonsense.
Re: Why Police Can't Track Kidnapper's Phone Calls by ElevationD: 4:34pm On Aug 31, 2024
One word summarizes all: CORRUPTION.

Our dear country needs complete sanitation from the wicked forces of darkness that have enthroned themselves in high places. The citizens, rather than use their ballot papers properly, choose all the time the wrong leaders.

It is a disgrace that when there is a complaint to the police that requires tracking, the officers ask you ton provide sixty thousand naira or more, depending on the matter. Again, they still tell you that there is someone else in charge in another station who they must “settle”. With this mindset, how can they successfully fight crime?

Again, how are kidnappers able to get away from spots, when the police can follow up and arrest real time? For example, the motorbikes demanded by kidnappers cab have trackers installed in the before handing over to the criminals. That way, they can easily be arrested after victims are released.

Decent security agents are overwhelmed, but the horrible ones make security difficult.
Re: Why Police Can't Track Kidnapper's Phone Calls by ElevationD: 4:36pm On Aug 31, 2024
Konquest:
The writer of this article and the Editor that allowed the article to be published are ignorant of the current trends in crime and kidnappings or they just wanted to add sensationalism to his report.

It's a known fact that these kidnappers are now using satellite phones instead of cell phones which can easily be tracked through the IRT. So, there's a need for upgrades to the tracking system to pin point the coordinates of the kidnappers.

There's also the need for smaller drones and combat drones for aerial surveillance and attacks on the base of these criminals in the NOTORIOUSLY well-known crime spots. This would deter crimes and help to apprehend criminals. Period.
Phones are phones. They all are tracked!
Re: Why Police Can't Track Kidnapper's Phone Calls by lexy2014: 4:40pm On Aug 31, 2024
SmartPolician:
Well done, Vanguard! This is how the media is supposed to be helping the government fight crimes through investigative journalism.

I had a good laugh when I read the part that talked about tracking mistresses. 😁😁

But to be fair to Nigerian police, they are tracking criminals. However, you have to pay for that service and pay a certain percentage of the results.

The article raised an important point - lack of motivation. To what end should they track armed criminals when there's no motivation?

Back to the police tracking criminals, a family member lost her phone recently and the person who got hold of the phone withdrew all the money in her account through transfers and POS withdrawals. It was over 800k.

The police in Enugu tracked all the beneficiaries (mostly POS agents) and they denied not knowing the criminal who transferred the money to them because they were mostly POS agents doing business.

However, they had to repay all the money they received from the guy. About 500k was recovered and the police took their commission from the money. After tracking the phone to a location in Lagos, the phone stopped working. The thief probably abandoned it.

If this government can motivate our police, you will see their level of professionalism, but politicians rendered our police useless and they are now bodyguarding riffraffs in society just to survive.
Which government is the media supposed to help to fight crime? Is it the same government that knows what to do but doesn't do it?
Re: Why Police Can't Track Kidnapper's Phone Calls by lexy2014: 4:44pm On Aug 31, 2024
Konquest:
The writer of this article and the Editor that allowed the article to be published are ignorant of the current trends in crime and kidnappings or they just wanted to add sensationalism to his report.

It's a known fact that these kidnappers are now using satellite phones instead of cell phones which can easily be tracked through the IRT. So, there's a need for upgrades to the tracking system to pin point the coordinates of the kidnappers.

There's also the need for smaller drones and combat drones for aerial surveillance and attacks on the base of these criminals in the NOTORIOUSLY well-known crime spots. This would deter crimes and help to apprehend criminals. Period.
How is it a "known fact that these kidnappers are now using satellite phones instead of cell phones"?

Who made it a known fact?

Are you the one that bought the satellite phones for them?

The bandits that were mocking tinubu on TikTok, is it satellite phone they used for that?

When kidnappers use their victims numbers to call families, is it satellite phone that they used?
Re: Why Police Can't Track Kidnapper's Phone Calls by Goldbw122(m): 4:47pm On Aug 31, 2024
Is like they have touch a big man, yeah that is why they are now giving excuses..
Re: Why Police Can't Track Kidnapper's Phone Calls by jendoslim(m): 4:57pm On Aug 31, 2024
BabaO2:
stop acting stewpid, so the security agencies have the solution but they don't just want to implement it? ode.
The kidnappers are even smarter than people like you. Did you read the comment of one of the just released 20 kidnapped medical students? what can you deduce from it if you know anything at all? you are too arrogant for nothing. still waiting for the tracking device that Arase bought and took away when he retired.
You are adding clownish to ignorance

No need of arguing with you cos of your low level of intelligence.

I still maintain that if Nigerian Security Architecture wants to stamp out all these menace, you will be amazed with the results.
Re: Why Police Can't Track Kidnapper's Phone Calls by dododawa1: 5:11pm On Aug 31, 2024
RUBBISH
Re: Why Police Can't Track Kidnapper's Phone Calls by vanbonattel: 5:20pm On Aug 31, 2024
lexy2014:
Really? So that means in the states of the federation, all forms of negligence and corruption has been eliminated....right?

Since you say "Nobody will allow his state to be worse", how are Nigerian states faring in terms of good governance, corruption and negligence?
For most states in the south, they are doing well in most indices, but Federal ineptitude is the disaster. Take for instance a state government doing well on curbing corruption and doing good investments, only to be wrecked by police ineffectiveness in fighting crime, plus judiciary collapse. Don't forget that with Federal inflation, powered by Federal policy stupidity, every state investments can become trash.
Re: Why Police Can't Track Kidnapper's Phone Calls by CodeTemplarr: 5:42pm On Aug 31, 2024
Always knew the NIN and BVN were so useless given the Nigerian factor.
I can bet my last card they also have softwares like Pegasus but prefer to go after mistresses and perceived enemies like the case of NIN and BVN.
It also corroborate what I have always said of Buhari and Tinubu's govt. They are malice driven and too political for such advanced tools.
Re: Why Police Can't Track Kidnapper's Phone Calls by CodeTemplarr: 5:47pm On Aug 31, 2024
Konquest:
The writer of this article and the Editor that allowed the article to be published are ignorant of the current trends in crime and kidnappings or they just wanted to add sensationalism to his report.

It's a known fact that these kidnappers are now using satellite phones instead of cell phones which can easily be tracked through the IRT. So, there's a need for upgrades to the tracking system to pin point the coordinates of the kidnappers.

There's also the need for smaller drones and combat drones for aerial surveillance and attacks on the base of these criminals in the NOTORIOUSLY well-known crime spots. This would deter crimes and help to apprehend criminals. Period.
You are guilty of what you wanted to accuse the journalists and editors of here. All criminals cant afford and be using satellite phones. We have been cases where the suppliers of sex workers to bandits or ammunition suppliers were busted and instead of storming the location of bandits with their help, they come to media to parade them. It still points to a compromised security agency system.
Re: Why Police Can't Track Kidnapper's Phone Calls by Moniya4Real(m): 5:48pm On Aug 31, 2024
When I once said sometimes ago that the problems of Nigeria's state of insecurity is that of underdevelopment, brought about by corruption, nepotism, ineptitude and religion. Someone almost crucified me. Imagine if our rate of technological advancement is Even close to that of mere South Africa, let alone the more technological advanced nations of the world , like the USA, France, Russia, ,China etc...... There was indeed a country.
Re: Why Police Can't Track Kidnapper's Phone Calls by CodeTemplarr: 5:50pm On Aug 31, 2024
BeigJawnson:
I second your thought on this...

We copied Democratic system of government from the USA ... we didn't copy it well... This state police of a thing is what USA is using ...

You hear CHIGOGO POLICE DEPT.
NEW YORK POLICE DEPT and so on ... And FBI at the central ... Each state has its own Police department. But Nigeria, corrupt leaders are going against state police... Like you said, a man from that state will always know more of his state in the force.

And if they can't run state police, there is alternative, officers should only be posted to their state of origin and work in that state till retirement while been transferring from one local government to another in the same state of origin...

Many will even want to join the police force. Some one like me, I like to join the force right from childhood but how can I bee in Lagos and yet been transferred to the state I know no atom of?
What happens when the state police becomes a reflection of the federal policing system we have today whereby those in power use the police for their selfish interests? The best system of policing still remains federal for us.
Re: Why Police Can't Track Kidnapper's Phone Calls by LZAA: 6:11pm On Aug 31, 2024
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Re: Why Police Can't Track Kidnapper's Phone Calls by Mhudi: 6:52pm On Aug 31, 2024
Tackling insecurity should be the main issues concerning next election. The present administration has failed woefully to address increasing crime and seems clueless and confused on how to effectively combat insecurity.
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