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Re: Should Wages Be Collected For Preaching The Gospel? Jesus Vs Paul! by SIRTee15: 7:24am On Sep 03, 2024
AntiChristian:
Show me where pedophilia is mentioned?
Even Mary was bethrothed as a teenager to Joseph!

And it's clear the 32 virgins given to your lord in numbers 31:40 had young kids among! So was your lordship sinful for sparing virgins young kids for warriors of Israel and himself?
is paedophilia harmful to a child?
does having sex with a child harmful to her?
Re: Should Wages Be Collected For Preaching The Gospel? Jesus Vs Paul! by SIRTee15: 7:31am On Sep 03, 2024
AntiChristian:
Compare what Luke wrote with what others wrote and see the contradiction!

Luke was Paul's person so we Sabi everything Luke wrote was from Paul.
🤣😂🤣😂 Clown
So it's no longer about what Jesus said but who wrote it!!!
Just like advocate jare said, we should only engage U when we want to humour ourselves or troll u.
Re: Should Wages Be Collected For Preaching The Gospel? Jesus Vs Paul! by AntiChristian(op): 9:00am On Sep 03, 2024
SIRTee15:
🤣😂🤣😂 Clown
So it's no longer about what Jesus said but who wrote it!!!
Just like advocate jare said, we should only engage U when we want to humour ourselves or troll u.
You are all the same breed of Christian liars!

This is the humor below!

LUKE 10:5-7
“When you enter a house, first say, ‘Peace to this house.’ If someone who promotes peace is there, your peace will rest on them; if not, it will return to you. Stay there, eating and drinking whatever they give you, for the worker deserves his wages. Do not move around from house to house.

vs

Matthew 10: 8-10
Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse the lepers, drive out demons. Freely you have received; freely give. Do not carry any gold or silver or copper in your belts. Take no bag for the road, or second tunic, or sandals, or staff; for the worker is worthy of his provisions

Luke says "For the worker deserves his wages" as he got from Paul!

Matthew says "For the worker is worthy of his provisions (food)"!

Humor me how wages became food?
Re: Should Wages Be Collected For Preaching The Gospel? Jesus Vs Paul! by AntiChristian(op): 9:01am On Sep 03, 2024
SIRTee15:
is paedophilia harmful to a child?
does having sex with a child harmful to her?
Show me how it is harmful when your God did it?
Re: Should Wages Be Collected For Preaching The Gospel? Jesus Vs Paul! by SIRTee15: 9:18am On Sep 03, 2024
AntiChristian:
Show me how it is harmful when your God did it?
Stick to topic?
I can't find it in my bible that God had sex with a woman not alone a child.
Besides it doesn't matter who did it.

My question is clear, Is having sex with a prepubescent girl harmful.

Is having sex with a child harmful to the girl?
Re: Should Wages Be Collected For Preaching The Gospel? Jesus Vs Paul! by SIRTee15: 9:39am On Sep 03, 2024
AntiChristian:
You are all the same breed of Christian liars!

This is the humor below!

LUKE 10:5-7
“When you enter a house, first say, ‘Peace to this house.’ If someone who promotes peace is there, your peace will rest on them; if not, it will return to you. Stay there, eating and drinking whatever they give you, for the worker deserves his wages. Do not move around from house to house.

vs

Matthew 10: 8-10
Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse the lepers, drive out demons. Freely you have received; freely give. Do not carry any gold or silver or copper in your belts. Take no bag for the road, or second tunic, or sandals, or staff; for the worker is worthy of his provisions

Luke says "For the worker deserves his wages" as he got from Paul!

Matthew says "For the worker is worthy of his provisions (food)"!

Humor me how wages became food?
Clown....🤣😂🤣😂
So U finally admit they deserve to be fed and hosted. I thought initially U were yapping everything must be free when preaching......

9 “Do not get any gold or silver or copper to take with you in your belts— 10 no bag for the journey or extra shirt or sandals or a staff, for the worker is worth his keep.

9 “Don’t take any money in your money belts—no gold, silver, or even copper coins. 10 Don’t carry a traveler’s bag with a change of clothes and sandals or even a walking stick. Don’t hesitate to accept hospitality, because those who work deserve to be fed.


Mathew has spoken, Luke has spoken
Paul has spoken.

A worker for the Lord deserves hospitality and care from those they serve.

If U like do further somersault, that's your headache.
U will soon start hallucinating about Paul like your prophet did with his wives.
Re: Should Wages Be Collected For Preaching The Gospel? Jesus Vs Paul! by AntiChristian(op): 9:42am On Sep 03, 2024
SIRTee15:
Clown....🤣😂🤣😂
So U finally admit they deserve to be fed and hosted. I thought initially U were yapping everything must be free when preaching......
The title of the thread is about wages not feeding abeg face front!

9 “Do not get any gold or silver or copper to take with you in your belts— 10 no bag for the journey or extra shirt or sandals or a staff, for the worker is worth his keep.

9 “Don’t take any money in your money belts—no gold, silver, or even copper coins. 10 Don’t carry a traveler’s bag with a change of clothes and sandals or even a walking stick. Don’t hesitate to accept hospitality, because those who work deserve to be fed.


Mathew has spoken, Luke has spoken
Paul has spoken.

A worker for the Lord deserves hospitality and care from those they serve.

If U like do further somersault, that's your headache.
U will soon start hallucinating about Paul like your prophet did with his wives.
You still refuse to explain how wages became food?

See the humor now?

Busted lying syndicates! grin
Re: Should Wages Be Collected For Preaching The Gospel? Jesus Vs Paul! by AntiChristian(op): 9:46am On Sep 03, 2024
SIRTee15:
Stick to topic?
I can't find it in my bible that God had sex with a woman not alone a child.
Besides it doesn't matter who did it.

My question is clear, Is having sex with a prepubescent girl harmful.

Is having sex with a child harmful to the girl?
Still to what topic on a thread for wages? grin

Olodo gbogbo!
Re: Should Wages Be Collected For Preaching The Gospel? Jesus Vs Paul! by SIRTee15: 4:42pm On Sep 03, 2024
AntiChristian:
The title of the thread is about wages not feeding abeg face front!



You still refuse to explain how wages became food?

See the humor now?

Busted lying syndicates! grin
Let me drag your trouble small.

Jesus clearly state the worker deserves his wages in the gospel.

“When you enter a house, first say, ‘Peace to this house.’ If someone who promotes peace is there, your peace will rest on them; if not, it will return to you. Stay there, eating and drinking whatever they give you, for the worker deserves his wages. Do not move around from house to house.


Whether U believe it or not is not my business.
Re: Should Wages Be Collected For Preaching The Gospel? Jesus Vs Paul! by AntiChristian(op): 5:47pm On Sep 04, 2024
SIRTee15:
Let me drag your trouble small.

Jesus clearly state the worker deserves his wages in the gospel.

“When you enter a house, first say, ‘Peace to this house.’ If someone who promotes peace is there, your peace will rest on them; if not, it will return to you. Stay there, eating and drinking whatever they give you, for the worker deserves his wages. Do not move around from house to house.


Whether U believe it or not is not my business.
You should quote the verse?

If you quote Paul's secretary Luke then of course you are still quoting Paul!

What Jesus said according to Matthew was for the worker is worthy of his provisions!

Provisions is not wages!

It's either you fault one of the verses or accept them as a contradiction!
Re: Should Wages Be Collected For Preaching The Gospel? Jesus Vs Paul! by SIRTee15: 8:28pm On Sep 04, 2024
AntiChristian:
You should quote the verse?

If you quote Paul's secretary Luke then of course you are still quoting Paul!

What Jesus said according to Matthew was for the worker is worthy of his provisions!

Provisions is not wages!

It's either you fault one of the verses or accept them as a contradiction!
So U accept Luke wrote the gospel according to Luke?
So U accept the gospel of Luke has a known author and not anonymous.
Re: Should Wages Be Collected For Preaching The Gospel? Jesus Vs Paul! by Kobojunkie: 4:19am On Sep 05, 2024
AntiChristian:
Paul says in another verse:
If we have sown spiritual seed among you, is it too much for us to reap a material harvest from you? (1 Corinthians 9 :11)
Paul's own is to collect them wages, harvest, money, Kudi, ego,... !!!
To pay wages or not to pay? cool
Read what Paul in fact said.
8 These aren’t just my own thoughts. God’s law says the same thing.
9 Yes, it is written in the Law of Moses: “When a work animal is being used to separate grain, don’t keep it from eating the grain.”[a] When God said this, was he thinking only about work animals? No.
10 He was really talking about us. Yes, that was written for us. The one who plows and the one who separates the grain should both expect to get some of the grain for their work.
11 We planted spiritual seed among you, so we should be able to harvest from you some things for this life. Surely that is not asking too much.
12 Others have this right to get things from you. So surely we have this right too. But we don’t use this right. No, we endure everything ourselves so that we will not stop anyone from obeying the Good News of Christ. - 1 Corinthians 9 vs 8 - 12
The right in question is expressed in the Law of Moses for all who work in the Temple. And that is what Paul was merely pointing out there. — the right of the work ox to eat from the grain he threshes. Paul acknowledges that entry in the Old Law of Moses. However, he did that to deliberately point out that in Jesus Christ, that right does not apply. undecided

Paul never said he collected wages, neither did he suggest that any man do so using the name of Jesus Christ. undecided
Re: Should Wages Be Collected For Preaching The Gospel? Jesus Vs Paul! by AntiChristian(op): 6:01am On Sep 05, 2024
SIRTee15:
So U accept Luke wrote the gospel according to Luke?
So U accept the gospel of Luke has a known author and not anonymous.
Luke wrote his gospel according Paul!

I don't accept anything on your Bible!

As all of the authors are fictitious and can't be readily confirmed or authenticated!
Re: Should Wages Be Collected For Preaching The Gospel? Jesus Vs Paul! by AntiChristian(op): 6:42am On Sep 05, 2024
Kobojunkie:
Read what Paul in fact said.
The right in question is expressed in the Law of Moses for all who work in the Temple. And that is what Paul was merely pointing out there. — the right of the work ox to eat from the grain he threshes. Paul acknowledges that entry in the Old Law of Moses. However, he did that to deliberately point out that in Jesus Christ, that right does not apply. undecided

Paul never said he collected wages, neither did he suggest that any man do so using the name of Jesus Christ. undecided
Is accepting wages for preaching forbidden according to Paul?

Is it forbidden according to Jesus?
Re: Should Wages Be Collected For Preaching The Gospel? Jesus Vs Paul! by SIRTee15: 6:44am On Sep 05, 2024
AntiChristian:
Luke wrote his gospel according Paul!

I don't accept anything on your Bible!

As all of the authors are fictitious and can't be readily confirmed or authenticated!
Since u admit that Luke wrote the gospel according to Luke.
what are his sources? Did he tell us his sources?
Did he mention Paul as one of his sources?
Re: Should Wages Be Collected For Preaching The Gospel? Jesus Vs Paul! by AntiChristian(op): 7:49am On Sep 05, 2024
SIRTee15:
Since u admit that Luke wrote the gospel according to Luke.
what are his sources? Did he tell us his sources?
Did he mention Paul as one of his sources?
Does he need to mention Paul for you to explain how wages and provisions became the same?

Luke never met Jesus. And the eyewitness he mentioned he received his gospel from in Luke 1:1-4 was also not mentioned!

So we still have Paul to fill in the gap!
Re: Should Wages Be Collected For Preaching The Gospel? Jesus Vs Paul! by SIRTee15: 1:23pm On Sep 05, 2024
AntiChristian:
Does he need to mention Paul for you to explain how wages and provisions became the same?

Luke never met Jesus. And the eyewitness he mentioned he received his gospel from in Luke 1:1-4 was also not mentioned!

So we still have Paul to fill in the gap!
Like said his sources were eye witnesses...people who met and spoke to Jesus.
Did Paul meet Jesus?
Re: Should Wages Be Collected For Preaching The Gospel? Jesus Vs Paul! by Kobojunkie: 8:39pm On Sep 05, 2024
AntiChristian:
■ Is accepting wages for preaching forbidden according to Paul? Is it forbidden according to Jesus?
Paul is not the Law; the Law of God in the Kingdom of God is Jesus Christ. And as Paul asserted in the context of that passage which you quoted from, those who are under Jesus Christ do not use the right given instead to those who are under the Old Law of Moses. The Law under Jesus Christ is entirely different from the Old Law of Moses. undecided

Jesus Christ did not tell any of His followers to accept wages from anyone as His follower. He said, those who follow Him no longer work for food that perishes— wages of this world from your many jobs/careers/business, etc., — but rather for food that endures to eternity — righteousness - John 6 vs 25 - 35.
Re: Should Wages Be Collected For Preaching The Gospel? Jesus Vs Paul! by AntiChristian(op): 9:38am On Sep 06, 2024
Kobojunkie:
Paul is not the Law; the Law of God in the Kingdom of God is Jesus Christ. And as Paul asserted in the context of that passage which you quoted from, those who are under Jesus Christ do not use the right given instead to those who are under the Old Law of Moses. The Law under Jesus Christ is entirely different from the Old Law of Moses. undecided

Jesus Christ did not tell any of His followers to accept wages from anyone as His follower. He said, those who follow Him no longer work for food that perishes— wages of this world from your many jobs/careers/business, etc., — but rather for food that endures to eternity — righteousness - John 6 vs 25 - 35.
My question is not that stressful! Why stress your answer this much?

Is accepting wages for preaching forbidden according to Paul?

Is it forbidden according to Jesus?

Just a Yes or No answer and maybe one line in each case and we round up the thread!
Re: Should Wages Be Collected For Preaching The Gospel? Jesus Vs Paul! by Kobojunkie: 2:03pm On Sep 06, 2024
AntiChristian:
■ My question is not that stressful! Why stress your answer this much? Is accepting wages for preaching forbidden according to Paul? Is it forbidden according to Jesus? Just a Yes or No answer and maybe one line in each case and we round up the thread!
But I more than answered your "not that stressful" question! Paul already answered your "not that stressful" question in that passage from which you lifted your one line out of context. Even Jesus Christ, whom Paul attests to be His Savior gave a clear enough answer to your "not that stressful" question. So, why do you not accept the fact that Paul asserted the same answer as Jesus Christ in response to your "not that stressful" question? undecided
Re: Should Wages Be Collected For Preaching The Gospel? Jesus Vs Paul! by AntiChristian(op): 5:09pm On Sep 06, 2024
Kobojunkie:
But I more than answered your "not that stressful" question! Paul already answered your "not that stressful" question in that passage from which you lifted your one line out of context. Even Jesus Christ, whom Paul attests to be His Savior gave a clear enough answer to your "not that stressful" question. So, why do you not accept the fact that Paul asserted the same answer as Jesus Christ in response to your "not that stressful" question? undecided
See Stress o!

Just answer yes or No!
Re: Should Wages Be Collected For Preaching The Gospel? Jesus Vs Paul! by AntiChristian(op): 5:12pm On Sep 06, 2024
SIRTee15:
Like said his sources were eye witnesses...people who met and spoke to Jesus.
Did Paul meet Jesus?
Paul said he saw and spoke to Jesus as a bright light on the way from Damascus!

Jesus didn't meet Paul but Paul said he met him!
Re: Should Wages Be Collected For Preaching The Gospel? Jesus Vs Paul! by SIRTee15: 8:11pm On Sep 06, 2024
AntiChristian:
Paul said he saw and spoke to Jesus as a bright light on the way from Damascus!

Jesus didn't meet Paul but Paul said he met him!
We are both saying the same thing.
Paul never met Christ when Christ was alive.
But Luke said he documented accounts of eye witnesses.
So how can Luke depend on Paul to write his gospel when Paul wasn't an eye witness.
Re: Should Wages Be Collected For Preaching The Gospel? Jesus Vs Paul! by AntiChristian(op): 7:06am On Sep 07, 2024
SIRTee15:
We are both saying the same thing.
Paul never met Christ when Christ was alive.
But Luke said he documented accounts of eye witnesses.
So how can Luke depend on Paul to write his gospel when Paul wasn't an eye witness.
Who are they eye witnesses? Did he mention them?

Paul did say his message is from Jesus. Didn't he meet him to proclaim message from him?

Or you are saying Paul lied and he never met Jesus at all?
Re: Should Wages Be Collected For Preaching The Gospel? Jesus Vs Paul! by SIRTee15: 9:57pm On Sep 07, 2024
AntiChristian:
Who are they eye witnesses? Did he mention them?

Paul did say his message is from Jesus. Didn't he meet him to proclaim message from him?

Or you are saying Paul lied and he never met Jesus at all?
Did Paul say he met Jesus physically or in revelation?
Luke said he based his memoir on eye witness account, was Paul an eye witness?
Re: Should Wages Be Collected For Preaching The Gospel? Jesus Vs Paul! by AntiChristian(op): 5:42am On Sep 08, 2024
SIRTee15:
Did Paul say he met Jesus physically or in revelation?
Luke said he based his memoir on eye witness account, was Paul an eye witness?
The bright light na revelation?
Re: Should Wages Be Collected For Preaching The Gospel? Jesus Vs Paul! by LIVINGICONREBOR: 11:18pm On Sep 12, 2024
Kobojunkie:
But I more than answered your "not that stressful" question! Paul already answered your "not that stressful" question in that passage from which you lifted your one line out of context. Even Jesus Christ, whom Paul attests to be His Savior gave a clear enough answer to your "not that stressful" question. So, why do you not accept the fact that Paul asserted the same answer as Jesus Christ in response to your "not that stressful" question? undecided
Kobojunkie, I hope you have beaten your meat today. This great tinubulation suppose don dey touch u for dat Yankee wey u dey so.🥱
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