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OgaTheTop2:
So, mortgage is not a home? Toilet cleaner has a better home than she can get in naija. Know this, know peace.

Yes. But not better than a bank manager. You people really under-estimate how much permanent staff at banks earn. They earn well enough by Nigerian standards.

A toilet cleaner in the abroad better than a bank manager in Nigeria? Ah! God forbid! Some comparisons no be am abeg. Please don't say this in the physical public o

ivolt:
It is not about how much earned but how much is left after essential
bills have been paid.

It has been the same with Nigeria since the day of his inauguration that he shouted subsidy is gone

Gerrard59:
Yes. But not better than a bank manager. You people really under-estimate how much permanent staff at banks earn. They earn well enough by Nigerian standards.

A toilet cleaner in the abroad better than a bank manager in Nigeria? Ah! God forbid! Some comparisons no be am abeg. Please don't say this in the physical public o

I've said it. And nothing will happen because it's true.

SaintBishop:
You are a slowpoke... Go be a toilet cleaner in UK,stop displaying your stupidity here, slowpoke...

For most being a toilet cleaner is LIKELY the start of a long climb up the career and skills ladder into the middle class. I myself started as a fast food cook along with many other Nigerians at the time I migrated. Most of us have much better jobs or businesses now.

Simple question...how many of the people in your secondary school class who reside in Nigeria today....own a car, have access 24 hour electricity and earn 1 million naira per month?

And none of them in Nigeria own any landed property because that's the law.

hotwax:
When you are not a briton, how can you own a land in England?

The citizen cards they giving you now can be revoked later. They just need one hardliner like Trump to assume power...

No one can drag my Nigeria citizenship with me.

I personally know Nigerians living in Nigeria, who've never migrated, who own homes in the UK, USA and Switzerland. These are working Nigerians in Nigeria.

Festus Keyamo SAN and Minister of the Federal Republic of Nigeria, owns homes in the USA.

The property owned by these people in the UK and USA is safer and better protected than whatever anyone THINKS they own in Nigeria. That's why they went through the trouble of buying such. They want protection of assets.

They know that nobody owns land in Nigeria. That's the law. Deal with it.

Good Luck to Nigerians.

LordBiden:
But sorry a toilet cleaner wont be able to afford a home.

Even if he takes a mortgage it will take him like 35yrs.

Your statement is contradictory. You said a toilet cleaner wont be able to afford a home and then you turn around to say it would take around 35 years. Where you stand? Well a toilet cleaner at least in western europe is assured of pension without any month being missed. If a toilet cleaner losses his/her job a toilet cleaner is assured of unemployment benefits.

hotwax:
i have started my mama house..will soon complete it...meanwhile, im not placing her on mortgage house..

she is not going to live a fake life..paying mortgage for 35years,,,

Those people living “fake lives” also built houses for their moms in Nigeria and their own houses in Nigeria that they own outright without mortgage just like you . What’s your argument?

This mortgage argument is so dvmb.

Antivirus92:
no, he wouldn't.
But kids from his region will always come out top in any examination in the same country despite going to school only four days a week.

Do you have empirical studies to support your claim? Children of bank managers attend some of the best institutions in Nigeria. Some of which I dare say are better off than schools owned and controlled by the UK government. Except for private schools in the UK and selected public schools in some areas, it's better to study at a top tier or even tier-two secondary school in Nigeria.

LordBiden:
But sorry a toilet cleaner wont be able to afford a home.

Even if he takes a mortgage it will take him like 35yrs.

I am a janitor and I have 3 homes, all fully paid in USA and Nigeria.
Say what you know, dummy.

No wonder MrCork will not allow somebody rest here. That guy na lokito wey miss road.

erico2k2:
Now you are taking the pyssss

Werey

erico2k2:
why will they return? is that your hope or prayer for them? interpretation of what you just said is (Hating)So lets stick to the norm, her hard work and sweat will never go unrewarded can I get an AMEN?
Now I took the route 2000 and I do not rgret one sec of it.I have rose above band 8 in my Engineering field. Let me tell you something like it or not, them Sons are going to do well, get a good jb and build thier mum a mansion and get her a good car anybody wey nor like am can go hug transformer or stand in front of lagos state REd line train.

year 2000 and 2024 are the same circumstances ba. Just say you want to argue for argument sake.

Gerrard59:
Yes. But not better than a bank manager. You people really under-estimate how much permanent staff at banks earn. They earn well enough by Nigerian standards.

A toilet cleaner in the abroad better than a bank manager in Nigeria? Ah! God forbid! Some comparisons no be am abeg. Please don't say this in the physical public o

It has to depend on the bank and the level of management

Bigger better bank, probably better benefits.
Like the general manager of diamond bank can’t be the same as one unit manager in sub division of the bank. Or even a small/medium bank.

That’s the problem with all these generalizations

faceland:
Can our bank manger afford house in USA purely form their honest salary (without stealing)?... I know a toilet cleaner whos children are in private school here in Nigeria. I am sure they can return and buy house here.

Most of the houses the toilet cleaner buys are in run-down, God forbid-God-Punished-areas in the US. A bank manager's children attend good private schools in Nigeria and he owns landed properties in the country. What do you take a bank manager for in the first place?

Compare a toilet cleaner in the abroad to a toilet cleaner in Nigeria not a bank manager as that's a lopsided comparison. No toilet cleaner in the abroad lives a better life than a bank manager in Nigeria. That's absolutely ridiculous!

Notfogotten:
When we say a toilet cleaner in USA, Canada, UK, Australia is better than the manger of zenith bank, what we mean is that the toilet cleaner will never suffer what you are currently suffering in Nigeria.

Example include:

A. A toilet cleaner will never queue for fuel.
B. A toilet cleaner is less likely to be kidnapped in those countries
C. A toilet cleaner has 24/7 electricity.
D. A toilet cleaner has access to excellent Medicare.
E. A toilet cleaner is less likely exposed to armed robbers
F. A toilet cleaner eats better food and fruits than your bank manager.
G A toilet cleaner has access to good amenities
H. A toilet cleaner may have his children schooling for free in primary and high school
I. A toilet cleaner has a longer live expectancy than your bank manager in Nigeria.

May the spirit of toilet cleaner fall on you in one of those countries so you could enjoy all you listed. Congratulations in advance.

faceland:
The only problem is, how can someone be a millionaire in Nigeria and then turn to toilet cleaner overseas. That is the hard adjustment... But the toilet cleaners already here can never reach there.

Then I doubt the legitimacy of the millions. Anyone who made legitimately made millions in Nigeria via career or business should not become a toilet cleaner in the abroad.

And what’s the problem with that?

Must everyone be a king?

Kobicove:
A toilet cleaner is at the lowest rung of the ladder socially anywhere in the world no matter how much he is been paid as salary!

Gerrard59:
When I was in Nigeria, I think the manager at my parents' bank's branch earned more than a million or 1.5M naira per month. Unfortunately, I don't have exact figures. I will ask a friend. But assessing the friend who works in one of the top banks in the country, as at 2019, she participated in the bank management trainee programme where she earned 250K+ per month. Stanbic was even paying graduate trainees 350K then (rumoured to be the highest then amongst all banks). So, now, a bank manager shouldn't earn less than 2 million naira per month, I strongly believe.

P.S. Please don't mention the naira to the pounds or dollar as those currencies aren't spent in Nigeria. Bank managers earn in naira and spend in naira.

Im not silly to ref Naira to pounds, I am fortunate to live in both countries and well equip to compare with no prejudice.
Fuel for a week cost average ofN100k in ur gen, cost Average of N100k a month in ur car.you might spend N500k on food in a month ,security might cost N60k,I paid mine N100k for personal reasons.so in NIgeria I can comfortably say to live a middle class life your outgoings might xceed N500K do you agree?

efighter:
As you have been destined to be a toilet cleaner abroad, go on and fulfil your destiny. There are millions of Nigerian doing great jobs abroad, and there are millions of Whitmen sleeping on the streets in their father’s and mother’s land

Off point.
You lack simple comprehension.

IdeasPro:
But he can save, buy a house in Nigeria and you or someone else will become his tenant.

Save from what?
After paying all the bills from the paycheck to paycheck he earns?

Notfogotten:
When we say a toilet cleaner in USA, Canada, UK, Australia is better than the manger of zenith bank, what we mean is that the toilet cleaner will never suffer what you are currently suffering in Nigeria.

Example include:

A. A toilet cleaner will never queue for fuel.
B. A toilet cleaner is less likely to be kidnapped in those countries
C. A toilet cleaner has 24/7 electricity.
D. A toilet cleaner has access to excellent Medicare.
E. A toilet cleaner is less likely exposed to armed robbers
F. A toilet cleaner eats better food and fruits than your bank manager.
G A toilet cleaner has access to good amenities
H. A toilet cleaner may have his children schooling for free in primary and high school
I. A toilet cleaner has a longer live expectancy than your bank manager in Nigeria.

Abeg this is slave mentality. You have been brainwashed to believe that life in the West is Eldorado. A place like US is Eldorado but the suicide rate there is 10 times that of Nigeria. The number of people who died of violent crimes like mass shooting, Gang violence is 5 times more than people killed by kidnapping, banditry and terrorism in Nigeria . Check facts and confirm. West is far better than Nigeria but choosing a low job like cleaner abroad over bank Manager is Slave Mentality

Gerrard59:
Most of the houses the toilet cleaner buys are in run-down, God forbid-God-Punished-areas in the US. A bank manager's children attend good private schools in Nigeria and he owns landed properties in the country. What do you take a bank manager for in the first place?

Compare a toilet cleaner in the abroad to a toilet cleaner in Nigeria not a bank manager as that's a lopsided comparison. No toilet cleaner in the abroad lives a better life than a bank manager in Nigeria. That's absolutely ridiculous!

Why are you attempting to correct the impression of these nitwits?.

Lot of kids are on nairaland these days.

Leave them to their mysteries

ednut1:
year 2000 and 2024 are the same circumstances ba. Just say you want to argue for argument sake.

no 2024 is way better, so 2000 wa a starting point of my conversation, what's yours?

I will never be a toilet cleaner anywhere in the world. People die everyday in the US, robbed and shot almost on a daily in the US. I am not a fan of Nigeria and everyone knows me here for that. But comparing a toilet cleaner to a decent job like a bank manager is crazy.
I have met a lot of americans who felt insecure in the US and ran down to live in Ghana.

Nigeria is a mess, instead of collectively fixing it, a typical black man has no way to solve problems than to run away. That is why most of u work ur ass out in these countries, serving people they turn most of u to slaves.
It cant be me. I rather did software development and started earning decently online than to migrate and be doing care giver job, toilet cleaner and be ass licking whites. I have my passion hatred for Nigeria, yes. But i wont do these una yeye jobs abroad for anything. Not to whites who caused all these problems we face today in Nigeria. Never

erico2k2:
Im not silly to ref Naira to pounds, I am fortunate to live in both countries and well equip to compare with no prejudice.
Fuel for a week cost average ofN100k in ur gen, cost Average of N100k a month in ur car.you might spend N500k on food in a month ,security might cost N60k,I paid mine N100k for personal reasons.so in NIgeria I can comfortably say to live a middle class life your outgoings might xceed N500K do you agree?

Fair assessment depending on location. And yes, that's a middle class lifestyle by Nigerian standards. Every bank manager earned more than 500K even before I did NYSC. So, by now, the minimum should be 1.5M per month. Bank managers are big boys in Nigerian corporate world.

Notfogotten:
When we say a toilet cleaner in USA, Canada, UK, Australia is better than the manger of zenith bank, what we mean is that the toilet cleaner will never suffer what you are currently suffering in Nigeria.

Example include:

A. A toilet cleaner will never queue for fuel.
B. A toilet cleaner is less likely to be kidnapped in those countries
C. A toilet cleaner has 24/7 electricity.
D. A toilet cleaner has access to excellent Medicare.
E. A toilet cleaner is less likely exposed to armed robbers
F. A toilet cleaner eats better food and fruits than your bank manager.
G A toilet cleaner has access to good amenities
H. A toilet cleaner may have his children schooling for free in primary and high school
I. A toilet cleaner has a longer live expectancy than your bank manager in Nigeria.

Oga get sense! It's not about the scenery but the life you live.
I will rather be a king in the village that be a houseboy in a rich man's house.
A leader of men! Stooping so low to wash other people's excreta! because of a few pieces of silver!
Na inferiority complex dey worry you so!

erico2k2:
you know in Nigeria in the name of bashing japa, some are ignorant ,that's those who have the means, and the others do not have the means so just follow tha bandwagon to hating or being deliberately being ignorant. You know the same old story of washing dead bodies and plates etc? in my 24 years in the Uk I have never ever met a Nigerian who wash dead bodies,cos U will have to be paid very well too .

You’re so right. Neither have I. It’s a whole ass mortician degree or mortuary assistant certification required for those jobs but we like to talk about what we don’t know .

Ferdinandu:
Abeg this is slave mentality. You have been brainwashed to believe that life in the West is Eldorado. A place like US is Eldorado but the suicide rate there is 10 times that of Nigeria. The number of people who died of violent crimes like mass shooting, Gang violence is 5 times more than people killed by kidnapping, banditry and terrorism. Check facts and confirm. West is far better than Nigeria but choosing a low job like cleaner abroad over bank Manager is Slave Mentality

you guys read too much meaning to a simple statement, This toilet cleaner might be a starting point for most of out great leaders we have today.
Did you not see grown men selling roasted corn on the street of turkey

cococandy:
It has to depend on the bank and the level of management

Bigger better bank, probably better benefits.
Like the general manager of diamond bank can’t be the same as one unit manager in sub division of the bank. Or even a small/medium bank.

That’s the problem with all these generalizations

Yes. It's why I asked my friend as I don forget how much Nigerian corporate workers earn. I hope she replies. Those days, I had the raw data but inflation and Buhari have rendered them obsolete

sgtponzihater1:
A toilet cleaner can live in a good neighbourhood if they like abroad.

A bank manager in Nigeria cannot afford a house in Ikoyi or Banana Island

So a toilet cleaner can afford a rent in Chelsea and Kensington? By comparison, that’s the equivalence of Banana Island in Nigeria.

Why are people so dull ?

I moved to america with out an education or skill
I got a part time job with ups and at same time was eligible for career choice meaning any school I want to go they will pay
I decided to get my CDL to drive a truck which pays better
After that I I found another job with Amazon full time while I’m still working with ups and hold my CDL and about transitioning to trucking department but when I got to Amazon the feeling was different

I got a whole lot more offers
Like learning how to drive forklift
Learn Amazon robotics
Learn Amazon web services and also got a career choice to choose from list of schools to advance my self and move to the management team if I want to
Currently I’m doing a bsc on cybersecurity
Fully paid for by Amazon
And mind you I’m still with ups part time
I’m planning on leaving ups and move to Amazon full time once I get my schedule changed from Monday to Friday cause my normal schedule are Tuesday to Saturday
I’ve 60hours work week and I earn 23$ an hour In Amazon while I earn 21$ with ups
Why I choose Amazon everything is automated
From picking to stowing
To packing, buffering, sorting etc
But ups is all manual and the management are too hostile but In a I love ups still cause it my first job in the US

Come to Amazon or ups and see cars small boys or 19-23 years drive and you will wonder if it a warehouse job

I’ve meet some nigeria and all of them have their own cars and living on their and doing very well

I’m not downgrading Nigeria but the truth is our leaders are wicked and the worst part their are some evil people who support their wickedness just for selfish and wicked reasons
And yes a cleaner in Amazon is doing so well than a bank manger in Nigeria
Even before I started school and all that I’ve access to benefits in both ups and Amazon but I picked Amazon cause their benefits are top notch
If you’re not a billionaire or a millionaire in Nigeria you can’t even think of having a life insurance
As I’m talking to you I’ve 246,000$ worth of life insurance which I service with just 0.34$ every week to stay updated so when I die my family will have something to fall back on
I got all this as a mere warehouse worker
I’ve not even mentioned other benefits cause you will be shocked

When people come online and talk nonsense Nigeria is better I just laugh
I had that mind set till reality set in and I moved and I thank God I wasn’t late

Here in America you can be a school dropout and still make six figures
No one is bigger than anyone here
If you like drive Lamborghini no one cares

In every country they have their own up and down but you see america, Canada, Australia, uk, New Zealand, Norway,Switzerland, Denmark, Poland, Sweden, Germany, France, Italy are better but America na the king of all

Do with this little information how ever you deem fit
Those who have eyes let them see

It is not necessary. A good rented apartment is good. If can afford buying or build to God be the glory.

Where is Wigwe multi-Billion naira mansion. OP is absolutly correct.

LordBiden:
But sorry a toilet cleaner wont be able to afford a home.

Even if he takes a mortgage it will take him like 35yrs.

cococandy:
You’re so right. Neither have I. It’s a whole ass mortician degree or mortuary assistant certification required for those jobs but we like to talk about what we don’t know .

You know, Nigerians like to talk big even when they are clearly ignorant, this i why I join conversations like this to shed a wee hope and light to those who have the means so they too don't get left behind.
You will find those who have never left their cave describing the inside of Buckingham palace or telling you the colours of the inside of the empire state building.

Shawarmagirl:
What a caregiver earn here in UK monthly, is Nigeria bank manager 3 months salary.

In otherwords, what a caregiver earn weekly, is what a bank manager in Nigeria earn monthly.

Chineke nna!
This is a wrong way to look at things.

The toilet cleaner in the UK spends in pounds, while the bank manager in Nigeria spends in naira. A better comparison is between a caregiver in the UK vs the caregiver in Nigeria. A bank manager in Nigeria supercedes a caregiver in the UK by any financial, humanitarian and personal assessment.