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A bank manager in Nigeria has a lot of options in his life that the low-wage worker abroad simply does not. There's a lot you can say about the difference in their lifestyle, but I'll hit a few points some may not have. And I'm talking about the US here.

The facilities attendant abroad may be treated pretty poorly. I'm not saying that's always the case, but we know how people are. And I'm not even so much talking about people in the community, more so their managers. And it's pretty hard for them to walk away.

The facilities attendant doesn't really have any leverage because frankly, their skillset is common and there are also tons of illegal immigrants around to do the job for almost nothing. Furthermore, those illegals will accept all kinds of conditions they won't. So the job security isn't really there.

The attendant will most likely live in a dangerous neighborhood and also likely in a housing project or cheap rental. These places are pretty bad. You think most of the danger is outside, but these are very poorly maintained places. Roaches, rats, bed bugs, mold, lead, dirty water. It's likely to make people sick, even give their kids asthma. They may also get off a long shift and come home to a place with no heat or no water, or they've been robbed (again). Fortunately, crime is down, it's not the 70s, 80s, or 90s. But that doesn't mean those neighborhoods are Disneyworld. One of the things that would especially worry me is raising a daughter in those conditions. Even as a grown man. Even if you think you're big and can handle yourself. Imagine every day you step out your door, your head is on swivel, and you have to be ready to fight someone or deal with someone mugging you.

And people in this position can try their best, but it's hard to raise a kid properly in those conditions. The combination of your kid likely being deprived of certain things or suffering, and also being surrounded by people with a certain mentality can easily pull them down the wrong path. Think about all the immigrants who left everything behind because they really thought their kids would have a better life, and their kid is a d0pe boy, gang member, and in and out of prison.

People talk about Medicare. There are people on it who can't afford necessary medication. These people will end up in the ER, and beyond the obvious risks, they're then hit with another bill they can't afford.

Gerrard59:
I do appauld/admire developed countries' elites for ensuring there's upward mobility, to a large extent meritocracy and rule of law. But that cleaner in the US doing better than a bank manager in Nigeria isn't the right comparison.

P.S. I appauld you for what you have achieved.

bro I no de cap
Na fact I de tell you

Cleaner lives
Earn better
And is doing well than a bank manager in Nigeria

I came in 2023
I started working early this year
I bought my first car Chevy Malibu 2015 cash
7,500$
With a warehouse job
By the time I’m done with school and move up the ladder what do you think I’ll achieve next

Even if I buy the on loan at least my salary is enough for me to get it

If no be fraud wan bank manager de do you feel say them go de where them de

Nigeria system is so rotten that even a bank manager sef no de earn according to his status

Gerrard59:
Do you have empirical studies to support your claim? Children of bank managers attend some of the best institutions in Nigeria. Some of which I dare say are better off than schools owned and controlled by the UK government. Except for private schools in the UK and selected public schools in some areas, it's better to study at a top tier or even tier-two secondary school in Nigeria.

no empirical studies needed. Go through jamb, waec and neco best students for the past 15 years and cure your ignorance

Looks like a number of Nigerians who japa'd are still ignorant about certain issues. It appears they project their own experiences of poverty while in Nigeria to every other situation here in Nigeria.

Make no mistake, an average Tier 1 & 2 bank Manager/branch head here earns total emolument of not less than N2-2.5million net per month (bonuses inclusive).

With that amount, a BM in Nigeria can:

- afford to build a good house after a couple of years
- has access to loan facilities of up to a N100m which can fast-track significant capital projects
- buy a very good car. Most typically have 2 or 3 cars on average.
- travel abroad for vacation during summer, with or without family
- employ domestic staff that run errands, queue for fuel etc
- either live in a premium estate with almost 24hour electricity supply or afford or set up a solar inverter system that will guarantee all round energy supply
- afford to go out to fun places regularly
- have free access to premium HMO services for medical care that may cost even up to N2million at a sitting

So under no circumstances would you find an average sensible BM struggling to live a quality life in Nigeria.

The general macro issues that plague Nigeria affects everyone whether BM, toilet cleaner or even Government officials.

In addition, the self-esteem (not arrogance) that a BM will have from being at the top of his career, from being exposed and having valuable social capital is something that cant be quantified but typically exceeds the mental state and exposure of a Janitor abroad.

So capital No, an immigrant toilet cleaner abroad does not live a better life than a BM in Nigeria. But he definitely has better prospects to be something better than many other professionals in Nigeria.

ppogba:
Where is Mmesoma sef?

Perhaps, coming tops in UNN.

she is abroad studying through scholarship.

ednut1:
had a short stint as a graduate trainee in a 9ja bank before moving to an audit firm in in Nigeria . Continued at same audit firm when i got to Canada before moving to the american bank 😉

Ah ok. So you are ex-KPMG or PwC?

steeltrust:
like I said
Do with the info how ever it fits you
And lemme ask what is wrong in buying a car and paying till you own it
We are so gullible in Nigeria and see these things that are put in place to make life easy for us a big deal
Come to chicago and see how the Latinos who dominate the cleaning industry are using to do what a bank manager can never do in Nigeria except he do fraud in it

As a toilet cleaner you’re entitled to benefits
Do you know what that means

Chai
Here a manager isn’t bigger than a toilet cleaner cause both can afford what each other want

A toilet cleaner have vacation leave
A toilet cleaner has PTO which is paid time off
A toilet cleaner can buy ticket and say he or she is going on vacation in Bahamas
How many bank manager can do that
How man bank manager has the kind of benefits a cleaners has here

Here there is dignity in labour
Whatever job you find your self
No one is bigger than you

Any it your choice think and feel how ever you want

I’m just giving you my personal experience
I’ve been to Canada
I know people who stay these countries and when I compare America is doing better
But it is what it is sha

You are so little in thinking.

One, so because you met your "kinds" in Canada, does that mean that everyone in the US is better than Canadians.

I will still blame your comparison on your lack of proper education.

You even invited me to Chicago to see what Latinos do. You have no fact on them, yet you issued this broad statement.

How long is Bahamas to US that seems a big deal to you?

Seriously, like i said, I cannot blame individuals that are nobody in Nigeria but get intoxicated when they earn their first 1000 USD.

And by the way, with the way you hype yourself, I would have expected you to have bought the entire banana island finish and open the first private refinery before Dangote.

Lizard having a feel of a crocodile.

TheChameleon:
With the children being born in baby factories and the females having an absolute monopoly on prostitution and their language being lingua franca in Asian prisons because of the men.

but studies showed that over 53% of kids born in your region (southwest) do not know their fathers. Who impregnated the mothers?
Is there any other definition of prostitution?

Lol...mumu.. dey wait for another 50 years, promised by artificial intelligence.....

Rossikk:
Look. One thing you guys need to understand is that OVER THE LONG TERM, Nigeria will eventually get it right.

Nigeria is an unstoppable train.

I asked AI (ChatGPT)

''TELL ME ABOUT NIGERIA IN THE YEAR 2075''

It's response:

........................

In 2075, Nigeria is a dynamic and influential powerhouse in Africa and globally, shaped by its rich history, vast resources, and resilience. The nation has undergone significant transformations, leveraging its demographic advantage, technological advancements, and natural resources to redefine its role on the world stage.

Population and Demographics
With a population that has surpassed 400 million, Nigeria remains the most populous nation in Africa. The population is youthful but has also aged since the mid-21st century, with life expectancy rising due to improved healthcare. The country's population is diverse, with over 500 ethnic groups, though urbanization has led to a blending of cultures in megacities like Lagos, Abuja, and Kano. Nigeria's urban population exceeds 75%, with sprawling cities that are hubs of innovation, culture, and commerce.

Economy and Infrastructure

Nigeria's economy in 2075 is highly diversified, moving beyond its historical reliance on oil. The country has become a leader in renewable energy, particularly solar power, given its geographical advantages. Advances in agriculture, driven by technology and sustainable practices, have made Nigeria a key player in global food security. The manufacturing sector, supported by automation and AI, is robust, producing everything from advanced electronics to green technologies.

Transportation infrastructure is futuristic, with high-speed rail networks connecting major cities, and autonomous electric vehicles dominating the roads. Lagos, often called the "Silicon Lagoon," rivals global tech hubs like Silicon Valley and Shenzhen, with a thriving ecosystem of startups and tech giants.

Governance and Society

Politically, Nigeria is more stable, having navigated through decades of democratic consolidation. Governance is enhanced by digital transparency, reducing corruption, and fostering greater citizen participation. The political landscape is marked by a strong federal structure, where states have significant autonomy, allowing for tailored approaches to development across the diverse regions.

Socially, the country has made strides in education and gender equality, with women holding significant positions in government, business, and academia. However, challenges remain, particularly in managing the socio-economic disparities that still exist, though these are less pronounced than in the past.


Technology and Innovation

Nigeria is at the forefront of technological innovation in Africa. The country has made significant investments in AI, biotechnology, and space exploration. Nigerian tech companies are global players, and the nation's space agency has launched satellites that contribute to global communications and environmental monitoring.

Education in Nigeria has transformed, with a focus on STEM fields, and universities in Nigeria are renowned for their research in medicine, engineering, and environmental sciences. Virtual reality and AI have become integral parts of education, making learning more accessible and tailored to individual needs.


Environment and Sustainability

Nigeria has taken bold steps to address the environmental challenges posed by climate change. The Niger Delta, once plagued by oil spills, has been rehabilitated, and the country has implemented widespread reforestation projects to combat desertification in the north. Nigeria's commitment to green energy and sustainable practices has positioned it as a leader in global environmental initiatives.

Water management and climate adaptation strategies have been crucial in ensuring that the growing population has access to clean water and can withstand the impacts of climate change, such as more frequent and intense droughts or floods.


Culture and Global Influence

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steeltrust:
bro I no de cap
Na fact I de tell you

Cleaner lives
Earn better
And is doing well than a bank manager in Nigeria

I came in 2023
I started working early this year
I bought my first car Chevy Malibu 2015 cash
7,500$
With a warehouse job
By the time I’m done with school and move up the ladder what do you think I’ll achieve next

Even if I buy the on loan at least my salary is enough for me to get it

If no be fraud wan bank manager de do you feel say them go de where them de

Nigeria system is so rotten that even a bank manager sef no de earn according to his status

you bought your car 12,000,000...a bank manager in nigeria go home with 2m or $1,500. A bank manager get upfront payment of 15million in Jnauary.

A bank manager can buy a car worth of 30 or 40m. They are living a good life...

One of my guy that went to canada came home last christmas and saw my second house...he confessed he could have made it in nigeria if he had stayed...after all his years in canada, im still better than him...

You can't have a good career here in nigeria and be carrying load in wharehouse in canada

LordBiden:
But sorry a toilet cleaner wont be able to afford a home.

Even if he takes a mortgage it will take him like 35yrs.

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A toilet cleaner can scale up to have a Janitorial company down the line.

Many times wealth is where many people are not looking.

Is any Bank Manager in Nigeria really safe with all the recent "slump and die" syndrome?

Stress is a silent killer and Nigeria is synonymous with stress.

/

steeltrust:
bro I no de cap
Na fact I de tell you

Cleaner lives
Earn better
And is doing well than a bank manager in Nigeria

I came in 2023
I started working early this year
I bought my first car Chevy Malibu 2015 cash
7,500$
With a warehouse job
By the time I’m done with school and move up the ladder what do you think I’ll achieve next

Even if I buy the on loan at least my salary is enough for me to get it

If no be fraud wan bank manager de do you feel say them go de where them de

Nigeria system is so rotten that even a bank manager sef no de earn according to his status

The bolded explains where you are coming from.

You are still getting freaked by the "neon" signs. It will soon clear.

MT:
You are so little in thinking.

One, so because you met your "kinds" in Canada, does that mean that everyone in the US is better than Canadians.

I will still blame your comparison on your lack of proper education.

You even invited me to Chicago to see what Latinos do. You have no fact on them, yet you issued this broad statement.

How long is Bahamas to US that seems a big deal to you?

Seriously, like i said, I cannot blame individuals that are nobody in Nigeria but get intoxicated when they earn their first 1000 USD.

And by the way, with the way you hype yourself, I would have expected you to have bought the entire banana island finish and open the first private refinery before Dangote.

Lizard having a feel of a crocodile.

chai
Stop being pained
I’m only giving my opinion
It a better life here
How many bank manager fit travel go South Africa for vacation and come back
I’m not saying Senegal or even Ghana sef

You’re acting as if you’re intelligent but you just de make noise

When it comes to benefits
Yes a toilet cleaner lives and earn better than a bank manager in Nigeria

You say 1000$ no be money
How much you don earn this month legally except you’re into fraud

I be lizard
Thank you lion
May your suffering and smiling be short

steeltrust:
like I said
Do with the info how ever it fits you
And lemme ask what is wrong in buying a car and paying till you own it
We are so gullible in Nigeria and see these things that are put in place to make life easy for us a big deal
Come to chicago and see how the Latinos who dominate the cleaning industry are using to do what a bank manager can never do in Nigeria except he do fraud in it

As a toilet cleaner you’re entitled to benefits
Do you know what that means

Chai
Here a manager isn’t bigger than a toilet cleaner cause both can afford what each other want

A toilet cleaner have vacation leave
A toilet cleaner has PTO which is paid time off
A toilet cleaner can buy ticket and say he or she is going on vacation in Bahamas
How many bank manager can do that
How man bank manager has the kind of benefits a cleaners has here

Here there is dignity in labour
Whatever job you find your self
No one is bigger than you

Any it your choice think and feel how ever you want

I’m just giving you my personal experience
I’ve been to Canada
I know people who stay these countries and when I compare America is doing better
But it is what it is sha

But a toilet cleaner inspite having all these things can never be happily associated with the top minded social class of the society.

Where people are contributing important intellectual ideas to solve technical problems he is there in the toilet ba?

paxonel:
Obviously, you are a drunk ass fellow who knows not what poor people go through in those countries you mention

a poor man in those countries are better than rich man in your 3rd world nation

It's not safe over here either. Robbery happens here in The US, murder too. The world is unsafe. I think the comparison is biased, clearly an opinion of those Nigerians who have never made it past Benin Republic and Ghana. Who thinks the West is heaven on earth. Here, your car can get stolen in broad daylight. You can get mugged right on the street, things happen here, shitty things.

Notfogotten:
When we say a toilet cleaner in USA, Canada, UK, Australia is better than the manger of zenith bank, what we mean is that the toilet cleaner will never suffer what you are currently suffering in Nigeria.

Example include:

A. A toilet cleaner will never queue for fuel.
B. A toilet cleaner is less likely to be kidnapped in those countries
C. A toilet cleaner has 24/7 electricity.
D. A toilet cleaner has access to excellent Medicare.
E. A toilet cleaner is less likely exposed to armed robbers
F. A toilet cleaner eats better food and fruits than your bank manager.
G A toilet cleaner has access to good amenities
H. A toilet cleaner may have his children schooling for free in primary and high school
I. A toilet cleaner has a longer live expectancy than your bank manager in Nigeria.

Exactly. More than your bank manager, but not more than a business man, not more than an entrepreneur not more than one who chooses the life of freedom than security ( slavery).

steeltrust:
chai
Stop being pained
I’m only giving my opinion
It a better life here
How many bank manager fit travel go South Africa for vacation and come back
I’m not saying Senegal or even Ghana sef

You’re acting as if you’re intelligent but you just de make noise

When it comes to benefits
Yes a toilet cleaner lives and earn better than a bank manager in Nigeria

You say 1000$ no be money
How much you don earn this month legally except you’re into fraud

I be lizard
Thank you lion
May your suffering and smiling be short

Your miserable life just start in the US.

I am a US passport holder who OWNS a tech company in ATL.

You can only dream of who I am and the network I have built over there.

What have you seen in life that made you sound so disparaging to your own country of birth? A bastard behaves that way.

Just go and die as a "toilet cleaner" since that is your destiny.

paxonel:
But a toilet cleaner inspite having all these things can never be happily associated with the top minded social class of the society.

Where people are contributing important intellectual ideas to solve technical problems he is there in the toilet ba?

hahahaha
Na there your brain go 😂🤣

If you decide to move up the ladder
You can be a the head of the toilet cleaning department and make six figures if you don’t want you have a choice to go to school and go into management fully paid for by the company

Electorate:
You are not intelligent enough to comment on this thread...go to children section.

SEE HEAVY UPPERCUT

I see a lot of stupidity, dick measuring,ignorance and plain blindness in all the comments here.

My take has always been, make your choice based on what you think your priorities are, as only posterity can judge who has made the right or wrong choices.

Leave comparisons alone as people face different consequences or benefits of their choices. Different strokes for different folks.

Comparing different life choices and situations is the most stupid trait in humans

MT:
The bolded explains where you are coming from.

You are still getting freaked by the "neon" signs. It will soon clear.

de play
I have all my plans sorted out before coming here and almost achieving all

You can cry all you want
Nigeria is rotten
And it need urgent help

Villa12:
a poor man in those countries are better than rich man in your 3rd world nation

Taaa!

Lies

na wa oooo

Notfogotten:
When we say a toilet cleaner in USA, Canada, UK, Australia is better than the manger of zenith bank, what we mean is that the toilet cleaner will never suffer what you are currently suffering in Nigeria.

Example include:

A. A toilet cleaner will never queue for fuel.
B. A toilet cleaner is less likely to be kidnapped in those countries
C. A toilet cleaner has 24/7 electricity.
D. A toilet cleaner has access to excellent Medicare.
E. A toilet cleaner is less likely exposed to armed robbers
F. A toilet cleaner eats better food and fruits than your bank manager.
G A toilet cleaner has access to good amenities
H. A toilet cleaner may have his children schooling for free in primary and high school
I. A toilet cleaner has a longer live expectancy than your bank manager in Nigeria.

This is my genuine reply
A. A toilet cleaner will never queue for fuel.
This is because a toilet cleaner don't have a car.

B. A toilet cleaner is less likely to be kidnapped in those countries
This is because a toilet cleaner don't have jealous relatives around that will plan the kidnapping.

C. A toilet cleaner has 24/7 electricity.
This is only when the toilet cleaner can afford paying electricity bills constantly.

D. A toilet cleaner has access to excellent Medicare.
only if the toilet cleaner's papers are genuine and has a clean record.

E. A toilet cleaner is less likely exposed to armed robbers
Why will armed robbers attack a mere toilet cleaner? but they can easily be prone to racist murderers.

F. A toilet cleaner eats better food and fruits than your bank manager.
Toilet cleaners here eat mostly food with preservatives and fruits artificially grown not organic food.

G A toilet cleaner has access to good amenities
Yes because these amenities are already provided and maintained by the indigenous people with sense. Not from your country where every protest is targeted at destroying the only good and useful amenities they have.

H. A toilet cleaner may have his children schooling for free in primary and high school
May you said may which means it is not certain.

I. A toilet cleaner has a longer live expectancy than your bank manager in Nigeria.
Not when there is always a racist psycho that comes out of nowhere to start mudering people because they are blacks.

Notfogotten:
When we say a toilet cleaner in USA, Canada, UK, Australia is better than the manger of zenith bank, what we mean is that the toilet cleaner will never suffer what you are currently suffering in Nigeria.

Example include:

A. A toilet cleaner will never queue for fuel.
B. A toilet cleaner is less likely to be kidnapped in those countries
C. A toilet cleaner has 24/7 electricity.
D. A toilet cleaner has access to excellent Medicare.
E. A toilet cleaner is less likely exposed to armed robbers
F. A toilet cleaner eats better food and fruits than your bank manager.
G A toilet cleaner has access to good amenities
H. A toilet cleaner may have his children schooling for free in primary and high school
I. A toilet cleaner has a longer live expectancy than your bank manager in Nigeria.

And ho estly has more money

hotwax:
you bought your car 12,000,000...a bank manager in nigeria go home with 2m or $1,500. A bank manager get upfront payment of 15million in Jnauary.

A bank manager can buy a car worth of 30 or 40m. They are living a good life...

One of my guy that went to canada came home last christmas and saw my second house...he confessed he could have made it in nigeria if he had stayed...after all his years in canada, im still better than him...

You can't have a good career here in nigeria and be carrying load in wharehouse in canada

😂🤣

Every body can not make it
Sometimes your destiny to succeed is in Nigerian or your friend too
As for me life has way better since I came
And I thank I did
I might be in Nigeria go to school and still achieve nothing while you won’t even go to school in Nigeria and achieve a lot

Go to where your destiny will shine
Mine shined in america and I’ll boldly defend it and say it anywhere

From what I’ve seen and compared both country

Nigeria is rotten deep down and nothing can change that

Imagine me a warehouse worker with a life insurance of 246k$ with no education wan I go leave for my family when I die 😂🤣

Braaaa abeg leave me oh 😂🤣

hotwax:
When you are not a briton, how can you own a land in England?

The citizen cards they giving you now can be revoked later. They just need one hardliner like Trump to assume power...

No one can drag my Nigeria citizenship with me.

citizen wey hunger dey kpai una

steeltrust:
hahahaha
Na there your brain go 😂🤣

ehh, na so na
So, where the happiness there?

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If you decide to move up the ladder
You can be a the head of the toilet cleaning department and make six figures

lwkmo!!

if you don’t want you have a choice to go to school and go into management fully paid for by the company

at this point, toilet cleaning seize to exist.
There comes a new bank manager who may be posted back to Nigeria to earn in dollar, but once a toilet cleaner in the US

I agree with the op 100% but you see, when the bank manager visits USA, Canada or Australia, it's still the toilet cleaner that will do his job where the bank manager stays.

MT:
Your miserable life just start in the US.

I am a US passport holder who OWNS a tech company in ATL.

You can only dream of who I am and the network I have built over there.

What have you seen in life that made you sound so disparaging to your own country of birth? A bastard behaves that way.

Just go and die as a "toilet cleaner" since that is your destiny.

😂🤣
This one is pained already

If you don’t know I own a fintech app I run in Nigeria
You think say me and you na mate idiot

I’ve archive more way more than you in your entire generation

Na me wan cap for
Make God punish you

I agree with the op 100% but you see, when the bank manager visits USA, Canada or Australia, it's still the toilet cleaner that will do his job where the bank manager stays.


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