₦airaland Forum

MT:
Those opportunities available for those you mentioned are not available to you. You are black and occupy the lowest rung of the ladder.

Do not deceive yourself. You need to work in certain settings, be part of the elites for you to imagine yourselves in those space. I am a US passport holder but I do not receive myself.

You were not even birthed in the states, there’s a ceiling place on your head without you knowing. Most Americans are poor and the wealth of that nation is concentrated in the hands of the few. You guys are sharing the remnants among yourselves. Do some research and you will see the bubble.

Do you think you have the same chance as the whites in the US?

what you are saying makes zero sense
A black immigrant family can become multimillionaires in two generations in the United States if they play their cards right

Patel family are an example
there are many many other migrant families that has been able to do same
But Africans have bad culture (financial) and wrong priorities
hence making such feat more difficult for us

The owner of Calendy is of Nigerian origin and he has more wealth than 95% of white folks will ever see
so what are u saying
abeggi

to add
for a Nigerian in Nigeria
what's his pathway to the top?
is it not the same glass ceiling (to use your own words)

EcoNews:
Will a toilet cleaner be sitting at home every Monday ?!

You're trying to be too wicked. You carried ipob matter join.
The fact is Nigeria is damaged beyond repair

Timmi:
Antivirus92, the Esu from the land of rising wailers. It’s obvious that you are educated illiterate for you don’t understand statistics, nor comprehend numbers. You need to go and collect your tuition back from Enugu, then go back to elementary school until you can interpret numbers and the meanings behind it. I believe I’ve schooled you enough

as usual, shifting the goalpost. A graduate of lautech lecturing me on statistics... Imagine!
Your redemption begins from the very moment u accept that you are actually lagging behind and that's one bitter pill you people from the south west find very difficult swallowing.

Emetex22:
I live in Bay area California and a Med Surgical Nurse, 😆 🤣 😂, I was an Industrial Chemist before emigrating to the US way back 😆 🤣, I am telling you, if you have struggled in Nigeria and see how the West run their system and don't get angry with ur politicians, then you are worse than a bandit. Even a herdsmen will turn new leaf if given a chance for a fresh start over here, move away mugu, California is not heaven and have homeless problems lol, but you can't even discriminate when they ask for services, ooh sorry you can't comprehend that mugu

Stop smoking weed. I know it is legal but you don't have to smoke that sh!t man. It's not good for you. Peace out ✌🏾

TheChameleon:
Ask Nnamdi Kanu, your god why he described your mother, sisters and wives this way

we are talking about statistics not opinion of Nnamdi Kanu. Chances are very high that you don't also know your father but you're here on Nairaland pointing to others as prostitutes where as you're a product of one.

erico2k2:
if I dont go to Nigeria often enough I would have started considering what is being said here as facts.

indeed...

Nuzo1:
Just make your point and move on.

No need to be proud of using minors for slave labor and maltreating them at the same time.

How do most people who poorly treat and pay their househelps (maids) peanuts sleep well at night?

Worst of all, how do you manage to be so proud of it?

the person you quoted is not a serious person

Gerrard59:
Do you have empirical studies to support your claim? Children of bank managers attend some of the best institutions in Nigeria. Some of which I dare say are better off than schools owned and controlled by the UK government. Except for private schools in the UK and selected public schools in some areas, it's better to study at a top tier or even tier-two secondary school in Nigeria.

I'm not so sure I'll agree with you on this one Gerrard.

CoronaVirusPro:
I am giving you facts and what you know.

Are saying there is no fraud in the US too?

How did Nancy Oelosi become so rich?

How did Lauren Boebert become a millionaire is a short term in senate?

The pentagon has not been able to defend its spending in last 5 years. So let’s exclude fraud and corruption, it plays out everywhere.

If you must compare both, you must fully compare it!

I am sure you hear about the fraud that happened in Amazon? It’s not the only one, just the one that was exposed. Fraud and corruption is everywhere.

what stop Nigeria govt In Giving it people benefits abi na only to come defend bad governance ny you sabi

Which Amazon was in fraud
E be like dis one don ment
Where you get that lie from

You de talk of pentagon
Even when them thief them still de care and support their people
Do you know how much a reserve soldier earn in a months here plus benefits

A Nigeria soldier can’t even dream of earning it till he dies except he go involve em self for corruption

Praise singer of bad leadership and you de see am norm

Say the truth
No de sugar quote am

Antivirus92:
Antivirus92 to his useless homosexual father and his spermbank wh0re mother:

we are talking about statistics not opinion of Nnamdi Kanu. Chances are very high that you don't also know your father but you're here on Nairaland pointing to others as prostitutes where as you're a product of one.

I don't know why you're crying ? Is it because he described your mother perfectly?

Rossikk:
Unlikely to own a car in the first place.



A toilet cleaner won't be kidnapped in Nigeria either. Use your brain.



Anyone in Nigeria with a cheap generator can have 24/7 electricity.



Not necessarily. There are very long waiting lists for operations and surgery in the UK's NHS for example. You have to wait YEARS for an operation in some cases. Many perish before their turn. Only the rich who can afford the monstrously expensive private hospitals can be guaranteed of ''excellent medicare''. SAME AS IN NIGERIA.



A toilet cleaner is more likely to be shot in America or stabbed in the UK, or get his house burgled, than meet any armed robbers in Nigeria.



WRONG. Toilet cleaners in the west are among the underclass who tend to eat cheap, processed foods like frozen pizza, frozen chips, and eat junk food. A Nigerian bank manger eats fresh, highly nutritious, natural, organic foods.



Not necessarily. Some of them live in terrible places a Nigerian bank manager could never live.



Free education is not new to Nigeria. How old are you?



What studies have you conducted to make that claim?

You can't just come online and make outrageous claims from your big, loud IPOB terrorist OUTCAST lips.

When people make this kind of comment, they think they are "intelligent" but when you read such comment, you would obviously know that the commenter has not step of Nigeria.

FYI, I have seen Toilet cleaner with multiple cars and home owners, I have seen toilet cleaner living well and earning decent compared to bank managers in Nigeria.

Let me tell you how things works outside African (like in USA), the less you earn, the more benefits you get from government, you pay less for insurance and even bills, you get support to buy car or house from government, you get monthly stipends and support from government, you get access to lots of tax credits, you get free food self from NGOs and government. Also, some toilet cleaners are even doing it for free (volunteering).

Dont deceive people by sounding or looking "smart" but we know there is no wisdom in your comment

LordBiden:
But sorry a toilet cleaner wont be able to afford a home.

Even if he takes a mortgage it will take him like 35yrs.

cleaners in dubai are paid 1500aed .... That's about 645k naira ,
645k X 12 X 5 years that's 38m naira... Tell me if he can build house without mortgage or not... Nah ordinary Dubai I bring the level down oooo

pafun:
Stop smoking weed. I know it is legal but you don't have to smoke that sh!t man. It's not good for you. Peace out ✌🏾

✌️ ✌️
Me smoke weed, 😆 🤣 😂, atleast no soldier will harras me, unlike you, u dress too nice and police start suspecting u

Miramonica:
it's a sad situation my brother. If someone had told me 10years ago that Nugeria will be like this, I will tell the person to go kiss a toilet seat


But it's happening now, this clearly shows that the country can never get better.

But a determined person will still look for an escape route out of this Country.

I understand you perfectly!
10+ years ago, I returned to Naija to work for a “multinational”. In the last few years, I’ve had to re-japa inspite of the “huge” salary. Worse still, I know of dozens of ex-colleagues earning 40,50,60 million per annum choosing to japa abroad to start all over again. I ask them why and the breakdown is simple:
Say you earn 50M (pre tax) and live in Lekki, married with 2 kids. After tax, maybe you get 35 - 40M.
- Rent in Lekki 7M
- Service charge/fuel/phcn band A - 5M
- Car 10M
- School Fees 6M
- iPhone 2M
- Total 30M without others like feeding, miscellaneous.

You can’t even buy flight ticket for your family to enjoy vacation abroad. Your naira savings has been eroded and embassies will reject your family application. Truly sad. There was a country

Villa12:
you live in a third world nation, poverty capital and blessed with useless leaders

And i earn more and live comfortably and free to socialize without any form of discrimination than the miserable immigrants who are constantly restricted to their parameters and discriminated to their worthlessness, some of which are greatly depressed and lonely in another man's land

The other one called one day and said he needed a wife to marry from Nigeria

So you can't socialize and get a white woman to marry?
Who send you go there?

RodgersAkpafu:
I'm not so sure I'll agree with you on this one Gerrard.

https://www.nairaland.com/8184851/top-waec-scorers-2009-where

The link about the JAMB scorers led me to have a thought about it. The WASSCE findings corroborated the belief. Except it's dem Eton or Winchester or that top school in London where black teens finish from, I don't see how most of the public schools managed by the UK government are better off than Catholic managed schools in Nigeria.

I have promised myself that when I visit the UK, I will intentionally visit the top universities to search selected undergraduate programmes to count how many black students are there, where they come from and where they were raised in.

Gerrard59:
https://www.nairaland.com/8184851/top-waec-scorers-2009-where

The link about the JAMB scorers led me to have a thought about it. The WASSCE findings corroborated the belief. Except it's dem Eton or Winchester or that top school in London where black teens finish from, I don't see how most of the public schools managed by the UK government are better off than Catholic managed schools in Nigeria.

I have promised myself that when I visit the UK, I will intentionally visit the top universities to search selected undergraduate programmes to count how many black students are there, where they come from and where they were raised in.

Well it's not so common to see black kids in ivy league schools here though

they are there
but
not so many of them

what you are doing is comparing the very best of what we can offer to a wide spectrum of schools here in the UK

a better comparison will be the best of us and against the best in the UK (like u have rightly done)
the mid of us vs mid of UK

and rhe worst of us vs worst of UK

have it in mind that the vast majority of people who migrated could not put their kids in top schools in Nigeria cos their school fees run into millions of naira per child

so going to a mid or okay school is a big time upgrade for them
also remember that the elite schools in Nigeria are housing our "best talents"
no it's not just the school
it's the students as well

the best of Winchester will kick Loyola jesuits in the nuts
I can bet anything on it

and BTW I read that thread
I loved it
Good work
but I don't agree with everything in it
most of it
but not all

Blazetrailer:
Lol...you know you're lying

Oya out of that list tell me which looks impossible to achieve as a Bank manager in Nigeria?

steeltrust:
what stop Nigeria govt In Giving it people benefits abi na only to come defend bad governance ny you sabi

Which Amazon was in fraud
E be like dis one don ment
Where you get that lie from

You de talk of pentagon
Even when them thief them still de care and support their people
Do you know how much a reserve soldier earn in a months here plus benefits

A Nigeria soldier can’t even dream of earning it till he dies except he go involve em self for corruption

Praise singer of bad leadership and you de see am norm

Say the truth
No de sugar quote am

Where did the below happen?

And you talk about a reserve soldier! They earn peanuts and that’s not hidden. The benefits that comes with is good but make it look like they are gods. They just like teachers.

I never said Nigeria is better than the US, and only stating that the comparison is false. A bank manager is ahead of a cleaner in the US. Far ahead!

LordBiden:
But sorry a toilet cleaner wont be able to afford a home.

Even if he takes a mortgage it will take him like 35yrs.

They are among the ones erecting buildings back home. They build here, set up business here while they remain tenant over there for a long time.

No (Nigerian) especially working abroad will want to buy a house over there first.

lionshare:
Do you think that if all the people in rural Nigeria had the opportunity and means to relocate to urban areas, they wouldn't?

You might just be surprised, my cozen from the US decided to build his own house in the village/Come to the property section and see people building in rural areas.I agree p overty might not allow some to go live in the city, but if you have no qualification and desired skills what biz have you got with the city?

Gerrard59:
Yes. But not better than a bank manager. You people really under-estimate how much permanent staff at banks earn. They earn well enough by Nigerian standards.

A toilet cleaner in the abroad better than a bank manager in Nigeria? Ah! God forbid! Some comparisons no be am abeg. Please don't say this in the physical public o

Indeed, you don't know what you are talking about..EOD.

Ouchbabe:
Olodo spotted

coming from you who almost called the FBI unto say N1500 got missing from thier account? nahh thats below the belt

9japride:
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Yes, it's normal.

Exactly can an average salary earner do that?

paxonel:
Yes,
I have gotten my figures right now

5kg garri(which is equivalent to half paint in Nigeria) is sold £7.99 in the uk which is equivalent to £8

And you say £1 is N2150

Calculate it
£2150 × 8 = N17,200

Meaning, a seller in the uk will accept N17,200 from you for half paint of garri that we buy N1500 here in Nigeria.

This is what a Nigerian toilet cleaner in uk is going through just to get garri that she is more adapted to, than any other food.

Make the op go rest o

You still need to educate urself more to be per with the narrative on ground, urs my friend is bellow per.

paxonel:
And i earn more and live comfortably and free to socialize without any form of discrimination than the miserable immigrants who are constantly restricted to their parameters and discriminated to their worthlessness, some of which are greatly depressed and lonely in another man's land

The other one called one day and said he needed a wife to marry from Nigeria

So you can't socialize and get a white woman to marry?
Who send you go there?

na so Una dey boast, if them check your account now ordinary N3million nor dey

Gerrard59:
Then I doubt the legitimacy of the millions. Anyone who made legitimately made millions in Nigeria via career or business should not become a toilet cleaner in the abroad.

Millions in naira... Does bank manager makes $1k (1.5m naira)?

...and yes they have privileges that cleaners don't have but cleaners have privileges that the bank manager can not afford.

This reminds me of how some asians will complain about how their salary is so much lower than in US/UK/AU/etc. But they completely ignore that they pay almost nothing for rent, food, clothes, vacation, entertainment, medical care, and the overall lifestyle and infrastructure they enjoy. Now, they clearly have a lot of problems in their countries, but it's still ridiculous.

It's pretty obvious that people make these comparisons between Nigeria and other countries for all sorts of emotional reasons, but it needs to stop. Yes, Nigeria has it's problems, but this is nonsense. And you look dumb af putting down a black nation as a black man/woman.

But this is obviously a troll thread for traffic so whatever.

But a toilet don't have a home just like the bank manager here in nigeria. So there is no difference. Just location and time

helinues:
Toilet cleaner is now a proud job

Jesu, may we not come into this life to serve others

This is a silly take. The default setting of Life is Service to Others. In serving others, your own needs are met. There's no shame in Serving others. The richest and biggest companies in the world serve the masses. Life is designed to be INTER-DEPENDENT. If Seun didn't create Nairaland , where would you type this? That's service. If the phone manufacturer didn't produce the phone, how would you have communicated? That's service. There's dignity in labour even in cleaning toilets.

Geekhard:
This is a silly take. The default setting of Life is Service to Others. In serving others, your own needs are met. There's no shame in Serving others. The richest and biggest companies in the world serve the masses. Life is designed to be INTER-DEPENDENT. If Seun didn't create Nairaland , where would you type this? That's service. If the phone manufacturer didn't produce the phone, how would you have communicated? That's service. There's dignity in labour even in cleaning toilets.

It's not about job shaming. The issue is for someone to pretend that you can compare a professional role requiring education, skill, and experience to that job, AND in the context of doing that job in an oyinbo country.

helinues:
Toilet cleaner is now a proud job

Jesu, may we not come into this life to serve others

People are proud of any honest paying jobs here unlike Nigeria where you glorify cert forgets, drug dealers, Internet fraudsters and so on.