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Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by tctrills: 7:41pm On Sep 03, 2024
Michael547:
😂😂😂Oga show me a translation that supports your statement in that verse.....I have shown you several translation.....any other interpretation of that verse is your own ideology until you prove me wrong.
Now you are clearly not reading I just gave you the KJV. Please what exactly are you asking me for. The KJV supports everything I said to you and I also gave you another verse from Paul to confirm it. Right now, even if Paul comes back to life and tells you that you and your fake versions are wrong you mo go gree.
Even if you feel this verse is controversial, the same Paul is telling you that there is only one mediator but you insist he is wrong. Clearly you can't be helped.
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Michael547(m): 8:00pm On Sep 03, 2024
tctrills:
Now you are clearly not reading I just gave you the KJV. Please what exactly are you asking me for. The KJV supports everything I said to you and I also gave you another verse from Paul to confirm it. Right now, even if Paul comes back to life and tells you that you and your fake versions are wrong you mo go gree.
Even if you feel this verse is controversial, the same Paul is telling you that there is only one mediator but you insist he is wrong. Clearly you can't be helped.
Oga the KJV does not contradict the translations that I've shown you....you are the one contradicting several translations and calling them fake.......you even claimed that it was not the law that was given to the mediator which is false......show me a translation that contradict the ones I've shown you.
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by tctrills: 8:56pm On Sep 03, 2024
Michael547:
Oga the KJV does not contradict the translations that I've shown you....you are the one contradicting several translations and calling them fake.......you even claimed that it was not the law that was given to the mediator which is false......show me a translation that contradict the ones I've shown you.
Oga it contradicts everything you said. You claim it says Moses was the mediator.
Again let me post it word for word and please this is simple English.
Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
I said the promise (Abraham's covenant) was Ordained by the angels in the hand of a mediator and not the Law.
This is way simple English. Paul never mentioned Moses. It is your false verses that mentioned Moses. That is criminal.
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Michael547(m): 8:58pm On Sep 03, 2024
tctrills:
Oga it contradicts everything you said. You claim it says Moses was the mediator.
Again let me post it word for word and please this is simple English.
Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
I said the promise (Abraham's covenant) was Ordained by the angels in the hand of a mediator and not the Law.
This is way simple English. Paul never mentioned Moses. It is your false verses that mentioned Moses. That is criminal.
Oga the version that you are quoting here does not still prove contradictory to the ones I've posted earlier. Show me a translation that has Jesus as the mediator in that verse. Anything aside from that is your own interpretation. Three translations are against your own interpretation.
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by tctrills: 10:05pm On Sep 03, 2024
Michael547:
Oga the version that you are quoting here does not still prove contradictory to the ones I've posted earlier. Show me a translation that has Jesus as the mediator in that verse. Anything aside from that is your own interpretation. Three translations are against your own interpretation.
You want averse that says Jesus is the only Mediator? Here you go.
1 Timothy 2:5
5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Any translation claiming Moses is your mediator is the personal opinion of the translator and not the word of God.
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Michael547(m): 10:11pm On Sep 03, 2024
tctrills:
You want averse that says Jesus is the only Mediator? Here you go.
1 Timothy 2:5
5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Any translation claiming Moses is your mediator is the personal opinion of the translator and not the word of God.
Oga i am not listening to you until you show me a translation that contradicts the ones I've shown you in Galatians 3:19.

Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by MaxInDHouse(op): 10:22pm On Sep 03, 2024
Michael547:
😂😂😂Oga show me a translation that supports your statement in that verse.....I have shown you several translation.....any other interpretation of that verse is your own ideology until you prove me wrong.
tctrills:
That's jw false doctrines...... let's agree to disagree.
[1] That's jw FALSE doctrines.

But

[2] let's agree to disagree!

All you these Jehovah's Witnesses why is it so difficult for you to agree to disagree with false. cheesy
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Michael547(m):
MaxInDHouse:
[1] That's jw FALSE doctrines.

But

[2] let's agree to disagree!

All you these Jehovah's Witnesses why is it so difficult for you to agree to disagree with false. cheesy
Don't mind the guy.....I have given him four translations that have revealed his teachings to be false. He says that they are fake translations. Oya bring translation that contradicts those translation. Till now he has not been able to bring one. He is just giving his own interpretation since morning and wants me to blindly believe him.
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by tctrills: 10:31pm On Sep 03, 2024
Michael547:
Oga i am not listening to you until you show me a translation that contradicts the ones I've shown you in Galatians 3:19.
Very funny. The word of God tells you that there is only one mediator but that to you does not contradict your false belives?
If the words of Paul no fit do you then no one can help you
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by tctrills: 10:32pm On Sep 03, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
[1] That's jw FALSE doctrines.

But

[2] let's agree to disagree!

All you these Jehovah's Witnesses why is it so difficult for you to agree to disagree with false. cheesy
This one just dey find attention up and down grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
Ok now you got my attention what next.
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Michael547(m): 10:35pm On Sep 03, 2024
tctrills:
Very funny. The word of God tells you that there is only one mediator but that to you does not contradict your false belives?
If the words of Paul no fit do you then no one can help you
Oga I have given you Paul's words in Galatians 3:19 in four translations....you claim that those translations are false.....kindly provide a contradictory translation.
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by MaxInDHouse(op): 10:49pm On Sep 03, 2024
Michael547:
Don't mind the guy.....I have given him four translations that have revealed his teachings to be false. He says that they are fake translations. Oya Brin a translation that contradicts those translation. Till now he has not been able to bring one. He is just giving his own interpretation since morning and wants me to blindly believe him.
He will claim the highlighted is not what he wanted rather he will say it's Jesus you should believe not him but did Jesus agree to disagree when it's falsehood? cheesy
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Michael547(m): 10:51pm On Sep 03, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
He will claim the highlighted is not what he wanted rather he will say it's Jesus you should believe not him but did Jesus agree to disagree when it's falsehood? cheesy
Don't mind him.
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by tctrills: 11:00pm On Sep 03, 2024
Michael547:
Oga I have given you Paul's words in Galatians 3:19 in four translations....you claim that those translations are false.....kindly provide a contradictory translation.
I have given you the correct translation a million times just read and save yourself
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Michael547(m): 11:34pm On Sep 03, 2024
tctrills:
I have given you the correct translation a million times just read and save yourself
Oga the correct translation that you are giving me does not contradict mine.....please point out the contradiction from your own to my own.
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by tctrills: 12:16am On Sep 04, 2024
Michael547:
Oga the correct translation that you are giving me does not contradict mine.....please point out the contradiction from your own to my own.
It does, it says nothing about Moses. Yours is about Moses.
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by MaxInDHouse(op): 7:40am On Sep 04, 2024
All faithful and loyal servants of God are called JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES by the true God! Isaiah 43:10
But out of these servants of God comes the only begotten Son of God whose name is Jesus he formed a group that will help all Jehovah's Witnesses to connect one another globally as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers these group was called CHRISTIANS in the first century but only those who are faithful and loyal to the true God among them are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES just as all descendants of Noah or descendants of Abraham or descendants of Jacob or descendants of David are faithful and loyal to the true God.
So in this last days Jehovah began calling His worshipers by this group name "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" after pure worship has been adequately restored.

This will separate them from rebellious humans who wants to claim they are all part of His worshipers, that's why it's difficult for anyone who's heart is not pure to feel comfortable being among JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 35:8smiley
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Michael547(m): 8:33am On Sep 04, 2024
tctrills:
It does, it says nothing about Moses. Yours is about Moses.
Lol....the same translation you are using says nothing about Jesus being the mediator of that verse....kindly point out a translation that mention Jesus as the mediator through whom the law was given.
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by johnw47: 9:00am On Sep 04, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
All faithful and loyal servants of God are called JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES by the true God! Isaiah 43:10
But out of these servants of God comes the only begotten Son of God whose name is Jesus he formed a group that will help all Jehovah's Witnesses to connect one another globally as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers these group was called CHRISTIANS in the first century but only those who are faithful and loyal to the true God among them are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES just as all descendants of Noah or descendants of Abraham or descendants of Jacob or descendants of David are faithful and loyal to the true God.
So in this last days Jehovah began calling His worshipers by this group name "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" after pure worship has been adequately restored.
This will separate them from rebellious humans who wants to claim they are all part of His worshipers, that's why it's difficult for anyone who's heart is not pure to feel comfortable being among JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! Isaiah 35:8smiley
Isa 43:10  You are My witnesses, declares the LORD, And My servant whom I have chosen, So that you may know and believe Me And understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, And there will be none after Me. 

lost false jw mad max

in the verse you mentioned
God did not say to israel "you are to be called Jehovah's witnesses
God said to israel "you are my witness", God had already named them "Israel", HE did not change their name

you do so twist and lie, of course:

Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.


your lies, paranoia, and blasphemy, even of the Holy Spirit, show that you are definitely not Jehovah's witness but a false jw/a fraud
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by tctrills: 9:19am On Sep 04, 2024
Michael547:
Lol....the same translation you are using says nothing about Jesus being the mediator of that verse....kindly point out a translation that mention Jesus as the mediator through whom the law was given.
Oga the translation says nothing about Moses. But the bible is more than one verse and the bible says Jesus Christ not Moses is the only mediator. Put the 2 together and get wiser.
Who are you to tell God at what verse to say what?
You obviously don't believe the verses that say Jesus Christ is the only mediator so you will remain stuck with your false translations.
The bible is not one verse. You gather your truths from all the verses
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Michael547(m): 10:06am On Sep 04, 2024
tctrills:
Oga the translation says nothing about Moses. But the bible is more than one verse and the bible says Jesus Christ not Moses is the only mediator. Put the 2 together and get wiser.
Who are you to tell God at what verse to say what?
You obviously don't believe the verses that say Jesus Christ is the only mediator so you will remain stuck with your false translations.
The bible is not one verse. You gather your truths from all the verses
Oga until you bring a translation that contradicts the four translations I've shown you, you have no case
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by tctrills: 10:41am On Sep 04, 2024
Michael547:
Oga until you bring a translation that contradicts the four translations I've shown you, you have no case
Funny guy. My case is that your Bible says there is only one mediator. If you don't believe that then it's your business but you can't change it.
Any translation that says you have more than one mediator is false.
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Michael547(m): 10:55am On Sep 04, 2024
tctrills:
Funny guy. My case is that your Bible says there is only one mediator. If you don't believe that then it's your business but you can't change it.
Any translation that says you have more than one mediator is false.
😂😂😂....Oya bring a translation that has Jesus in Galatians 3:19. I have shown you three translations that has Moses in that verse. Oya bring your own.
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by tctrills: 11:06am On Sep 04, 2024
Michael547:
😂😂😂....Oya bring a translation that has Jesus in Galatians 3:19. I have shown you three translations that has Moses in that verse. Oya bring your own.
You showed me 3 false translations and I showed you the correct one. It has nothing to do with Moses.
Oga how come you don't want to have anything to do with the verse that says there is one mediator? grin grin grin
I guess it's because it doesn't fit with your doctrine.
I am sure you avoid that verse because it exposes your false believes.
Unlike you, I am comfortable with every verse in the bible. I don't need to erase any verse and to insist on false translations to push forth a believe system.
I have been able to educate you on Gal 3.19
Can you do same to the verses I showed you?
grin grin grin grin grin funny people
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Michael547(m): 12:33pm On Sep 04, 2024
tctrills:
You showed me 3 false translations and I showed you the correct one. It has nothing to do with Moses.
Oga how come you don't want to have anything to do with the verse that says there is one mediator? grin grin grin
I guess it's because it doesn't fit with your doctrine.
I am sure you avoid that verse because it exposes your false believes.
Unlike you, I am comfortable with every verse in the bible. I don't need to erase any verse and to insist on false translations to push forth a believe system.
I have been able to educate you on Gal 3.19
Can you do same to the verses I showed you?
grin grin grin grin grin funny people
The one you showed me too did not say Jesus is the mediator in that verse.....show me the one that says so. You want me to believe the translators are wrong without any translations to show the contradiction. You are the only one with your idea.
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by MaxInDHouse(op): 2:30pm On Sep 04, 2024
johnw47:
Isa 43:10  You are My witnesses, declares the LORD, And My servant whom I have chosen, So that you may know and believe Me And understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, And there will be none after Me. 
God did not say to israel "you are to be called Jehovah's witnesses
God said to israel "you are my witness", God had already named them "Israel", HE did not change their name.
The group name "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" is not for Israelites but all faithful servants of God.

So according to a BORN AGAIN Christian called apostle Paul faithful people like Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Job, Moses, Joshua , Gideon, Barak, Samson, Jephthah, Deborah, Samuel ,David and many others are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.

At your leisure you can read Hebrews 11:4-34

@ Hebrews 12:1 apostle Paul encouraged his fellow Christians to learn how to do faithful and loyal to Jehovah like these ancient servants of God.

So the name is for all faithful servants of God whether such ones happened to live in the time of Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Jacob or even Joseph and Mary they are all Jehovah's Witnesses.

Thank you! smiley
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by achorladey: 2:36pm On Sep 04, 2024
MaxInDHouse:
The group name "JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES" is not for Israelites but all faithful servants of God.

So according to a BORN AGAIN Christian called apostle Paul faithful people like Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph, Job, Moses, Joshua , Gideon, Barak, Samson, Jephthah, Deborah, Samuel ,David and many others are JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES.

At your leisure you can read Hebrews 11:4-34

@ Hebrews 12:1 apostle Paul encouraged his fellow Christians to learn how to do faithful and loyal to Jehovah like these ancient servants of God.

So the name is for all faithful servants of God whether such ones happened to live in the time of Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Jacob or even Joseph and Mary they are all Jehovah's Witnesses.

Thank you! smiley
Lies and manipulations of the content and context of the scripture as usual cheesy
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by tctrills: 6:45pm On Sep 04, 2024
Michael547:
The one you showed me too did not say Jesus is the mediator in that verse.....show me the one that says so. You want me to believe the translators are wrong without any translations to show the contradiction. You are the only one with your idea.
Oga is that the only verse in the bible? You are afraid of the verse that says Jesus Christ is the only mediator just for argument sale.
A true Christian would accept every verse in the bible but in your case you have rejected verses that don't align with what your pastor told you.
It's clear you love your pastor more than God but it's ok.
No problem.
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Michael547(m):
tctrills:
Oga is that the only verse in the bible? You are afraid of the verse that says Jesus Christ is the only mediator just for argument sale.
A true Christian would accept every verse in the bible but in your case you have rejected verses that don't align with what your pastor told you.
It's clear you love your pastor more than God but it's ok.
No problem.
Oga if your interpretation of Galatians 3:19 is correct, bring out a translation that contradicts mine. Simple as ABC.
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by tctrills: 8:18pm On Sep 04, 2024
Michael547:
Oga of your interpretation of Galatians 3:19 is correct, bring out a translation that contradicts mine. Simple as ABC.
But I just did. My translation has nothing to do with Moses. Now please bring out the translation that contradicts
1 Timothy 2:5

5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

This verse is your kryptonite angry angry grin grin grin grin
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by tctrills: 8:20pm On Sep 04, 2024
Michael547:
Oga of your interpretation of Galatians 3:19 is correct, bring out a translation that contradicts mine. Simple as ABC.
This is the verse that your pastor's have no answer to grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
1 Timothy 2:5

5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
Re: JW 005 What Is The Difference Between Christians And Jehovah's Witnesses? by Michael547(m): 8:44pm On Sep 04, 2024
tctrills:
This is the verse that your pastor's have no answer to grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
1 Timothy 2:5

5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
Oga Hebrews 9:15 clearly explains that your verse.
Kindly show me a version that has Jesus in Galatians 3:19.
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